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7 . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.3)

Remember therefore that which is spoken of by the Apostles . Whose
words if the children of this world doe not regard , is it any marvaile
? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.4)

They are the Apostles of our Lord Iesus ; not of their Lord but of our
. (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.5)

It is true which one hath said in a certaine place , <font> Apostolicam
fidem seculi homo non capit </font> , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.6)

a ma~ sworne to the world , is not capable of that faith which the
Apostles doe teach . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.7)

What meane the children of this world then to tread in the courts of
our God ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.8)

What should your bodies doe at <font> Bethel </font> , whose hearts are
at <font> Bethaven </font> ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.9)

The God of this world , whom yee serue , hath provided Apostles and
teachers for you , <font> Chaldeans , Wisards , Southsayers ,
Astrologers </font> , and such like : (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.10)

Heare them . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.11)

Tell not us that yee will sacrifice to the Lord our God if wee will
sacrifice to <font> Ashteroth </font> or <font> Melcom </font> ; that
yee will read our Scriptures , if wee will listen to your traditions ;
that if yee may haue a Masse by permission , wee shall haue a Communion
with good leaue and liking ; that yee will admit the things that are
spoken of by the Apostles of our Lord Iesus , if your Lord and Master
may haue his ordinances observed , and his statutes kept .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.12)

<font> Solomon </font> took it <paren> as well he might </paren> for an
evident proofe , that she did not bear a motherly affection to her
child , which yeelded to haue it cut in diverse parts .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,10.13)

He $can $not {TEXT:cannot} loue the Lord <P_11> Iesus with his heart ,
which lendeth one eare to his Apostles , and another eare to false
Apostles : which can brooke to see a mingle mangle of religion and
superstition , Ministers and Massingpriests , light & darknesse , truth
and errour , traditions and Scriptures . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.14)

No ; we haue no Lord but Iesus ; no doctorine but the Gospell , no
teachers but his Apostles . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.15)

Were it reason to require at the hand of an English subiect , obedience
to the lawes and edicts of the Spaniard ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.16)

I doe marvaile that any man bearing the name of a servant of the
servants of Iesus Christ , will goe about to drawe vs from our
allegeance . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.17)

Wee are his sworne subiects ; (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.18)

it is not lawful for vs to heare the things , that are not told vs by
his Apostles . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.19)

They haue told vs that in the last daies there shall be mockers ;
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.20)

therefore wee beleeue it : <font> Credimus quia legimus </font> ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.21)

we are so perswaded because we read it must be so .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.22)

If we did not read it , we would not teach it : (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.23)

<font> Nam quae libro legis non continentur , ea nec nosse debemus
</font> , saith <font> Hilary </font> , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.24)

those things that are not written in the booke of the law , wee ought
not so much as to be acquainted with them . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.25)

<font> Remember the words which were spoken of before of the Apostles
of our Lord Iesus Christ . </font> (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.26)

8 (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.27)

The third thing to be considered in the description of these men of
whom wee speake is the time , wherin they should be manifested to the
world . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.28)

They told you there should bee mockers in the last time .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.29)

<font> Noah </font> at the commaundement of God built an Arke ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.30)

and there were in it beasts of all sorts , cleane & vncleane .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.31)

A husbandman planteth a vineyard (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,11.32)

and looketh <P_12> for grapes , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.33)

but when they come to the gathering , behold togither with grapes there
are found also wilde grapes . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.34)

A rich man prepareth a great supper (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.35)

and biddeth many , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.36)

but when hee sitteth him down he findeth amongst his friends here and
there a man whom he knoweth not . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.37)

This hath beene the state of the Church sithe~ce the beginning .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.38)

God alwaies hath mingled his Saints with faithlesse and godlesse
persons ; as it were the cleane with the vncleane , grapes with sowre
grapes , his friends and children with aliens and strangers .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.39)

Mervaile not the~ , if in the last daies also yee see the men , with
whom you liue and walke arme in arme , laugh at your religion and
blaspheme that glorious name whereof you are called .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.40)

Thus it was in the daies of the patriarckes & prophets ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.41)

and are we better then our fathers ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.42)

Albeit we $suppose that the blessed Apostles in foreshewing what manner
of men were set out for the last daies , meant to note a calamity
speciall and peculiar to the ages and generations which were to come .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,12.43)

As if he should haue said ; As God hath apointed a time of seed for the
sower , and a time of harvest for him that reapeth , as he hath give~
vnto every hearb & every tree his own fruit , and his own season , not
the season or the fruit of another , <paren> for no man looketh to
gather figs in the winter , because the Sommer is the season for them ,
nor grapes of thistles , because grapes are the fruite of the Vine ,
</paren> so the same God hath appointed sundrie for every generation of
men , other men for other times , and for the last times the worst men
, as may <P_13> appeare by their properties , which is the fourth point
to be considered of in this description . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.44)

9 (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.45)

They told you that there should be <font> Mockers </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.46)

He meaneth men that shall vse religion as a cloake to put off , and on
, as the weather serveth ; such as shall with <font> Herod </font>
heare the preaching of <font> Iohn Baptist </font> to day , and to
morrow condescende to haue him beheaded ; or with the other <font>
Herod </font> say , they will worship Christ when they purpose a
massacre in their hearts , kisse Christ with <font> Iudas </font> , and
betray Christ with <font> Iudas </font> . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.47)

These are mockers . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.48)

For as <font> Ishmael </font> the sonne of <font> Hagar </font> laughed
at <font> Isaak </font> , which was heir of the promise ; so shall
these men laugh at you as the maddest people vnder the sunne , if yee
be like <font> Moses </font> , choosing rather to suffer affliction
with the people of God , then to enioy the pleasures of sin for a
season . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.49)

And why ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.50)

God hath not given them eies to see , nor harts to co~ceiue that
exceding recompence of your rewarde . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.51)

The promises of salvatio~ made to you are matters , wherein they can
take no pleasure , even as <font> Ishmael </font> tooke no pleasure in
that promise , wherein God had said vnto <font> Abraham : In Isaac
shall thy seed be called </font> , because the promise concerned not
him but <font> Isaac </font> . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.52)

They are tearmed for their impiety towards God , <font> mockers </font>
, and for the impurity of their life and conversation , <font> walkers
after their owne vngodly lusts . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,13.53)

S. Peter </font> in his second epistle and 3 chapter soundeth the very
depth of their impiety : shewing <font> first </font> , how they shall
not shame at the length to professe themselues prophane , and
irreligious , by flat denying the gospell of Iesus Christ , <P_14> and
deriding the sweet and comfortable promises of his appearing : <font>
secondly </font> , that they shall not-2 be only deriders of all
religion , but also disputers against God , vsing truth to subvert the
truth ; yea scriptures themselues to disproue scriptures .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.54)

Being in this sort <font> mockers </font> , they must needs be also
followers of <font> their owne vngodly lusts </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.55)

Being Atheists in perswasion , can they choose but be beasts in
conversation~ ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.56)

For why remoue they quite from them the feare God ?
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.57)

Why take they such paines to abandon and put out from their harts all
sense , all tast , all feeling of religion ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.58)

but only to this end and purpose , that they may without inward remorse
and grudging of conscience giue over themselues to all vncleanenes .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.59)

Surely the state of these me~ is more lamentable , then is the
condition of Pagans and Turkes . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.60)

For at the bare beholding of heaven and earth the infidels heart by and
by doth giue him , that there is an eternal , infinite , immortal , and
everliving God ; whose hands haue fashioned and framed the world ;
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.61)

hee knoweth that every house is builded of some man , though he see not
the man which built the house , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,14.62)

and he considereth , that it must be God which hath built and created
all things ; although because the number of his daies be few he could
not see whe~ God disposed his workes of old , when he caused the light
of his clowdes first to shine , when he laid the corner stone of the
earth and swadled it with banks of water and darknes ; when he caused
the morning star to know his place , & made barres and doores to shut
vp the sea within his house , saying <font> hitherto shalt thou <P_15>
come but no farther : </font> (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.63)

he hath no eie witnesse of these things . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.64)

Yet the light of natural reason hath put this wisdome in his reines ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.65)

and hath given his heart thus much vnderstanding .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.66)

Bring a pagan to the schooles of the prophets of God ; prophecie to an
infidell , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.67)

rebuke him , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.68)

lay the iudgements of God before him , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.69)

make the secret sinnes of his heart manifest , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.70)

and he shall fall downe and worship God . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.71)

They that crucified the Lord of glory were not so far past recovery ,
but that the preaching of the Apostles was able to moue their hearts
and to bring them to this , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.72)

<font> Men & brethren what shall we doe ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.73)

Agrippa , </font> that sate in iudgement against <font> Paule </font>
for preaching , yeelded notwithstanding thus farre vnto him , <font>
almost thou perswadest me to become a Christian </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.74)

Although the Iewes for want of knowledge haue not submitted themselues
to the righteousnesse of God ; yet I beare them record , saith the
Apostle , <font> that they haue a zeale </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.75)

The <font> Athenians </font> , a people hauing neither zeale nor
knowledge , yet of them also the same Apostle beareth witnesse ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.76)

<font> yee men of Athens I perceaue yee are {COM:greek_omitted} </font>
some way religious . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.77)

But mockers , walking after their owne vngodly lusts , they haue
smothered every sparke of that heavenly light , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.78)

they haue stiflled even their very naturall vnderstanding .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.79)

O Lord , thy mercy is over al thy workes , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.80)

thou savest man and beast ! (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.81)

yet a happy case it had beene for these men if they had never beene
borne : (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.82)

and so I leaue them . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.83)

(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,15.84)

<font> S=t= Iude </font> hauing his mind exercised in the doctrine of
the Apostles of Iesus Christ concerning <P_16> things to come in the
last time , became a man of a wise and staid iudgement .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.85)

<font> Grieued </font> hee was , to see the departure of many , and
their falling away from the faith , which before they did professe :
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.86)

<font> grieved </font> , but not <font> dismayed </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.87)

With the simpler and weaker sort it was otherwise :
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.88)

Their countenance began by and by to change , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.89)

they were halfe in doubt they had deceiued themselues in giuing credit
to the Gospell of Iesus Christ . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.90)

S=t= <font> Iude </font> to comfort & refresh these silly lambs taketh
them vp in his armes , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.91)

and sheweth them the men at whom they were offended .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.92)

Look vpon them that forsake this blessed professio~ wherein you stand :
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.93)

They are now before your eyes ; (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.94)

view them , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.95)

marke them , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.96)

are they not carnal ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.97)

are they not like to noysome carrion cast out vpon the earth ?
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.98)

is there that spirit in them , which cryeth <font> Abba </font> father
in your bosomes ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.99)

Why should any man be discomforted ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.100)

haue you not heard that there should be <font> mockers </font> in the
last time ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.101)

These verily are they , that now doe seperate themselues .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.102)

11 (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.103)

For your better vnderstanding , what this severing and separating of
themselues doth meane , we must knowe , that the multitude of them
which truly beleeue <paren> howsoever they be dispersed farre and wide
each from other </paren> is all <font> one body </font> , whereof the
head is Christ , <font> one building </font> , whereof he is the corner
stone , in whom they as the me~bers of the body being knit , & as the
stones of the building , being coupled , grow vp to a man of perfect
stature , and rise to an holy te~ple in the Lord .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,16.104)

That which linketh Christ to vs is his <P_17> meere mercy and loue
towards vs . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.105)

That which tieth vs to him is our faith in the promised salvation
revealed in the word of truth . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.106)

That which vniteth and ioyneth vs amongst our selues , in such sort
that wee are now as if we had but one heart and one soule , is our loue
. (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.107)

Who be inwardly in heart the liuely members of this body , and the
polished stones of this building , coupled and ioined to Christ , as
flesh of his flesh and bones of his bones by the mutuall bond of his
vnspeakable loue towards them , & their vnfained faith in him , thus
linked and fastned each to other by a sprituall , sincere , and hartie
affection of loue without any manner of simulation , who be Iewes
within , and what their names be , none can tell , saue he whose eies
doe behold the secret disposition of all mens harts .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.108)

We , whose eies are too dimme to behold the inward man , must leaue the
secret iudgement of every servant to his owne Lord , accounting and
vsing all men as brethren both neere and deare vnto vs , supposing
Christ to loue them tenderly , so as they keep the profession of the
Gospell and ioyne in the outward communion of Saints . Whereof the one
doth warrantize vnto vs their faith , the other their loue , till they
fall away and forsake either the one , or the other , or both ;
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.109)

and then it is no iniurie to tearme them as they are .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.110)

When they separate themselues they , {COM:sic} are {COM:greek_omitted}
, not iudged by vs , but by their owne doings . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.111)

Men do separate the~selues either by heresie , schisme , or apostasie .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,17.112)

If they loose the bond of faith , which then they are iustly supposed
to doe , when they frowardly <P_18> oppugne any principall point of
Christian doctrine , this is to separate themselues by <font> Heresie
</font> . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.113)

If they breake the bond of vnitie , whereby the body of the Church is
coupled and knit in one , as they doe , which willfully forsake al
externall communion with Saints in holy exercises purely & orderly
established in the Church , this is to separate themselues by <font>
schisme </font> . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.114)

If they willingly cast of and vtterly forsake both profession of Christ
, & communion with Christians , taking their leaue of all religion ,
this is to separate themselues by plaine <font> Apostasie </font> .
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.115)

And <font> Saint Iude </font> , to expresse the manner of their
departure , which by <font> Apostasie </font> fell away fro~ the faith
of Christ , saith they separated themselues : noting thereby , that it
was not constraint of others , which forced them to depart , it was not
infirmitie and weaknes in themselues , it was not feare of persecution
to come vpo~ them , whereat their hearts did faile ; it was not griefe
of torments , whereof they had tasted , and were not able any longer to
endure them . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.116)

No , they voluntarily did separate themselues with a fully setled , and
altogether determined purpose never to name the Lord Iesus any more ,
nor to haue any fellowship with his Saints but to bend all their
counsell and all their strength to raze out their memoriall from
amongst men . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.117)

12 (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,18.118)

Now because that by such examples , not only the hearts of Infidels
were hardned against the truth , but the mindes of weake brethren also
much troubled , the holy Ghost hath given sentence of these backsliders
, that they were carnall men , and had not <P_19> the spirit of Christ
Iesus , least any man hauing an overweening of their persons should be
overmuch amazed and offended at their fall . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.119)

For simple men not able to discerne their spirits , were brought by
their apostasie thus to reason with themselues ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.120)

If Christ be the sonne of the liuing god , if hee haue the words of
eternall life , if he be able to bring salvation to all men that come
vnto him , what meaneth this Apostasie and vnconstrained departure ?
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.121)

Why doe his servants so willingly forsake him ? (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.122)

Babes be not deceived , (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.123)

his servants forsake him not . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.124)

They that separate themselues were amongst his servants ,
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.125)

but if they had been of his servants , they had not separated
themselues . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.126)

They were amongst vs , not of vs , saith <font> Saint Iohn : </font>
(HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.127)

and <font> Saint Iude </font> proveth it , because they were carnall ,
and had not the spirit . (HOOKER-A-E2-P1,19.128)

