<P_4,72.C2>

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Now , my Lord , we shall go to our Evidence
to prove , that all this is absolutely false : (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.2)

For <font> Ireland </font> went out of Town into <font> Staffordshire
</font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.3)

and did not return till after the 9th of <font> September </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.4)

And for this , we call <font> Anne Ireland </font> . <font> Who was
sworn . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.5)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Mrs. <font> Ireland </font> , pray where
did you take your leave of your Brother Mr. <font> Ireland </font> ,
who was executed in <font> Summer </font> 1678 , and when ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.6)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> I took my leave of him the beginning
of <font> August </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.7)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What day in <font> August </font> , do you
remember ? (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.8)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> The 3d of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.9)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Where was it ? (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.10)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> In my own Lodging .
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.11)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where was your Lodging ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.12)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> In <font> Russel-street ,
Covent-Garden </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.13)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Now tell us again the time when it was ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.14)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> It was on <font> Saturday </font>
Morning , as I remember , the 3d of <font> August </font> , the <font>
Saturday </font> after St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day .
(OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.15)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How come you remember so particularly , that it
was then ? (OATES-E3-H,4,72.C2.16)

<P_4,73.C1>

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Because upon St. <font> Ignatius's
</font> Day , we were invited to Mr. <font> Gifford's </font> at <font>
Hammersmith </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.18)

my Brother , my Mother , and I , were invited to stay all Night :
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.19)

But my Brother refused to stay , because - (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.20)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Which Brother ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.21)

What was his Name ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.22)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . William Ireland . </font>
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.23)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did they stay there ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.24)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> No , my Lord , my Brother came home on
foot , (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.25)

but we staid all Night . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.26)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Here is an Almanack of that Year :
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.27)

And the 3d of <font> August </font> was on a <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.28)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> He said he could not stay , because he
was to go into the Country upon <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.29)

I ask'd him , <font> Why he would set out on </font> Saturday ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.30)

And says he , <font> $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} go to </font> Standen ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.31)

<font> there I shall meet with my Lord </font> Aston , <font> and his
Family ; and have an Opportunity to go with him into </font>
Staffordshire . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.32)

<font> L. C. J. </font> She says , he went out of Town on <font>
Saturday </font> after St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day ; which was
<font> Saturday </font> the 3d of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.33)

But there being a Discourse between her and her Brother , why he should
make choice of a <font> Saturday </font> ; which she thought , it seems
, was an inconvenient Day to take a Journey on :
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.34)

And upon that , her Brother made answer again , That that Night he
would only go to <font> Standen </font> , to my Lord <font> Aston's
</font> House , where he should meet with Company to go along with him
into <font> Staffordshire </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.35)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What Day of the Week was St. <font>
Ignatius's </font> Day ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.36)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day was
on a <font> Wednesday </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.37)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What day of the Month is St. <font> Ignatius's
</font> Day ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.38)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> It is either the last Day of <font>
July </font> , or the 1st of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.39)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Look on your Almanack , if you have any one of
that Year , Mr. Attorney . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.40)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> We have no such Saint in our Almanack .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.41)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> It was , as near as I can remember ,
the 3d of <font> August </font> , that he went out of Town .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.42)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> The 3d of <font> August </font> , at that
time , was on a <font> Saturday </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.43)

Lord <font> Petre . </font> St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day is always
the last Day of <font> July </font> , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.44)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> In this Almanack , another Saint has
justled him out ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.45)

and that is Bishop <font> German </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.46)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And in my Almanack , a third has justled them
both out : (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.47)

but my Lord <font> Petre </font> says , it is always the last of <font>
July </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.48)

and that was on a <font> Wednesday </font> that Year .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.49)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> I remember it was on a <font>
Wednesday </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.50)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And you are sure he went out of Town the <font>
Saturday </font> after ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.51)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Yes , I am sure he went out of Town
then ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.52)

for I asked him , why he would go on a <font> Saturday </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.53)

And he told me , he would go but to <font> Standen </font> that Night .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.54)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> And that does hold , according to the
Computation , to be the 3d of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.55)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , she is not positive in this , that he
went out of Town the 3d of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.56)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Yes , but she is ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.57)

for she says , that she was the <font> Wednesday </font> before <paren>
which was St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day </paren> with him a little
way out of Town . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.58)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And that it was <font> Saturday </font> after
he went out of Town ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C1.59)

and she gives the Reason , that she entered into a Discourse with him ,
why he would go <P_4,73.C2> on <font> Saturday </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.60)

And he made that Answer which you hear . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.61)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins . </font> Mr. <font> Oates </font> knows what
Day St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day is upon , I presume .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.62)

<font> Oates . </font> It is the last Day of <font> July </font> , I
think . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.63)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> In our Protestant Almanacks , it seems ,
we give another Bishop place . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.64)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Mrs. <font> Ireland </font> , when did you
see him again ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.65)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Just a Fortnight before <font>
Michaelmas </font> , and not before . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.66)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You were his near Relation , I suppose ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.67)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Yes , my Lord , I was his Sister .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.68)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray , when he came to Town again , where did
he lodge ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.69)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> He used to lodge at the same place
where we did always ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.70)

and in the mean time , while he was absent , my Mother lent one Mrs.
<font> Eagleston </font> his Lodging . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.71)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Is that Person , you lent his Chamber to in his
Absence , here ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.72)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> No , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.73)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did she enter upon his Lodging ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.74)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Truly , my Lord , I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} tell ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.75)

her Maid fell sick , (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.76)

and so she came down a pair of Stairs lower into his Lodging .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.77)

It was in a short time after he went out of Town , my Lord , as I
remember . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.78)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did he come to Town again , do you say ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.79)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> He came to Town again a Fortnight
before <font> Michaelmas </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.80)

that <font> Michaelmas-day </font> fell on - (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.81)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you any Questions to ask her , Mr. <font>
Oates </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.82)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to know , why she did not
give this Evidence before ? Or whether ever she did give this Evidence
at any of the Trials ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.83)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> Yes , I was at my Brother's Trial ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.84)

and there I gave the same Evidence . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.85)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you there at the Trial of the five Jesuits
? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.86)

And did you give the same Evidence then ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.87)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> No , I was not call'd .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.88)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But were you there ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.89)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> I was in the Court at the same time ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.90)

but was not examin'd . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.91)

<font> Oates . </font> What Year is it you speak of , that he went out
of Town the 3d of <font> August </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.92)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> The Year 78 . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.93)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire , my Lord , to ask this Gentlewoman ,
what Religion she is of ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.94)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick
, my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.95)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know , whether her Name be <font>
Ireland </font> or <font> Ironmonger </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.96)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> My right Name is <font> Ironmonger
</font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.97)

but because of his Profession , he went by the Name of <font> Ireland
</font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.98)

and for his sake we go by that Name too . (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.99)

<font> Oates . </font> By what Name did you give Evidence at <font>
Ireland's </font> Trial ? (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.100)

Mrs. <font> A. Ireland . </font> By that Name of <font> Ireland .
</font> (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.101)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Why , Mr. <font> Oates </font> , that is a good
Name enough to be call'd by ; (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.102)

you may remember , you were called <font> Titus Ambrosius </font> , and
<font> Sampson Lucy </font> , at <font> St. Omers </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.103)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Eleanor Ireland </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.104)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.105)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> When did your Son go out of Town ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.106)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> The 3d of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,73.C2.107)

<P_4,74.C1>

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Are you sure it was the 3d of <font>
August </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.109)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> Yes , I am sure it was .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.110)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What Year was it ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.111)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> My Memory is not good enough for that
; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.112)

I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what Year , (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.113)

my Daughter can . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.114)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Was it the same Year he was tried
afterwards ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.115)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> Yes , it was the same Summer ; at
<font> Michaelmas </font> after he was taken up .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.116)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What time did he return again out of the
Country ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.117)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> The 14th of <font> September </font>
after . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.118)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I would ask her , Whether or no she
gave this Evidence at her Son's Trial ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.119)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland </font> Yes , I was a Witness there ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.120)

but they would not permit me to speak half so much ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.121)

they would hardly let me speak at all . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.122)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know , whether she was an Evidence
at the five Jesuits Trials ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.123)

Mrs. <font> El. Ireland . </font> No , I was not there then .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.124)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Pray swear Mrs. <font> Duddle </font> , and
Mrs. <font> Quino </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.125)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.126)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Come , Mrs. <font> Duddle </font> , do you
remember when Mr. <font> Ireland </font> went out of Town , in the Year
78 ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.127)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> To the best of my Remembrance , it was the
3d of <font> August </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.128)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Why do you think it was the 3d of <font>
August </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.129)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> He went for a Recreation out of Town three
Days before , which was upon an Holiday , St. <font> Ignatius's </font>
Day ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.130)

and he went out of Town one Night then , (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.131)

and he came and staid but two Nights after ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.132)

and went out of Town upon the <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.133)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did he stay out of Town one Night ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.134)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Yes , he staid out of Town all Night .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.135)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Are you sure he staid all Night ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.136)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> I am sure he staid but one Night .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.137)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But what say you to that , Mr. Attorney ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.138)

this Witness contradicts the other . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.139)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins . </font> Ay , plainly .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.140)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Mrs. <font> Ireland </font> , and Mrs.
<font> Anne Ireland </font> , and he went out upon a Recreation out of
Town , it being Holiday ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.141)

and I remember well , that was of a <font> Wednesday </font> :
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.142)

And that <font> Saturday </font> he went away ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.143)

and never came again till a Fortnight before <font> Michaelmas </font>
. (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.144)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But mind my Question , Woman .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.145)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Yes , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.146)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did he come home that Night he went on the
Recreation ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.147)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> I do not know . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.148)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But just now , you swore he staid out all Night
? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.149)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> No , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.150)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Yes , but you did though ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.151)

$pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} mind what thou art about .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.152)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> I do not say he , but I am sure his Sister
and the Company staid out that Night . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.153)

I remember very well , he went the third Day after , which was <font>
Saturday </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.154)

And Mr. <font> Jennison </font> came to ask for him three Weeks after ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.155)

and there was a Person of Quality with him in the Coach ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.156)

I think it was Sir <font> Miles Wharton . </font>
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.157)

And he asking for him , they gave him an account , that they had not
heard from him since he went ; which was then three Weeks after he was
gone . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C1.158)

And I remember well , he did <P_4,74.C2> not come to Town again till a
Fortnight before <font> Michaelmas </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.159)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How can you tell that ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.160)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> My Lord , I can tell it very well :
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.161)

For I was almost every Night in the Room where he used to lie ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.162)

and there lay a Gentlewoman there , that I knew .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.163)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What was her Name ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.164)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Mrs. <font> Eagleston </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.165)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How come she to lie there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.166)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Her Maid fell sick ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.167)

and she chang'd her own Chamber , (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.168)

and lay there all the time he was out of Town .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.169)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , is this good Evidence ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.170)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , why not ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.171)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I think she contradicts the other
Witness : (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.172)

For she says he lay out two Nights . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.173)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No , there you are mistaken too .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.174)

But I tell you what I did observe before . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.175)

Mrs. <font> Anne Ireland </font> swore , that they did stay all night ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.176)

but Mr. <font> Ireland </font> refused to stay there ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.177)

but would go home , because he was to go his Journey on <font> Saturday
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.178)

Then this Woman comes ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.179)

and she said at first , that he went out of Town on the <font>
Wednesday </font> , and staid out all Night , and lay at home but two
Nights , and then went away . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.180)

But now when I put her in mind to take care what she said , she swears
, she is sure the Sister lay out , but she is not sure of <font>
Ireland's </font> lying out . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.181)

But she is positive he went away on <font> Saturday </font> the 3d of
<font> August </font> , and return'd not till a Fortnight before <font>
Michaelmas </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.182)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I humbly conceive , she having once
sworn false - (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.183)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , but she immediately recollected her self .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.184)

<font> Oates . </font> By what Token does she remember it to be the 3d
of <font> August </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.185)

<font> L. C. J. </font> She said before , it was the <font> Saturday
</font> after St. <font> Ignatius's </font> Day , which was on a <font>
Wednesday </font> , the last Day of <font> July </font> ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.186)

and he went then out of Town . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.187)

She call'd it by the Name of <font> Recreation </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.188)

<font> Oates . </font> Was it the <font> Saturday </font> after St.
<font> Ignatius's </font> Day ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.189)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> Yes , it was : (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.190)

And I had not remember'd it , but that it was upon that Holiday .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.191)

<font> Oates . </font> This is a <font> Roman </font> Catholick , I
suppose , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.192)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.193)

What Religion are you of ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.194)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick , my
Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.195)

Mr. <font> Jennison </font> knows what I say to be true .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.196)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you a Witness in any of the Trials at the
<font> Old-Bailey </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.197)

Mrs. <font> Duddle . </font> I was in the Court ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.198)

but was not call'd . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.199)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What say you , Mrs. <font> Quino </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.200)

When did Mr. <font> Ireland </font> go out of Town ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.201)

Mrs. <font> Quino . </font> I must say the same ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.202)

it was the 3d Day of <font> August </font> , on a <font> Saturday
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.203)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How do you know that it was on a <font>
Saturday </font> the 3d of <font> August </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.204)

Mrs. <font> Quino . </font> By the same Reason that she speaks .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.205)

I mark'd that other Day he went out of Town ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.206)

and he came again , (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.207)

and his Mother staid there that Night : (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.208)

And he went on <font> Saturday </font> Morning out of Town .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.209)

I know it very well ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.210)

for my Husband was his Taylor , (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.211)

and he had somewhat to alter in his Clothes ; (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.212)

and I brought it immediately after it was done .
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.213)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Are you sure he went out of Town that Day ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.214)

Mrs. <font> Quino . </font> He went out of the House ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.215)

and as I take it , went out of Town ? (OATES-E3-H,4,74.C2.216)

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<font> L. C. J. </font> Did he say , he was to go out of Town ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.218)

Mrs. <font> Quino . </font> He had his Boots on ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.219)

and took Horse at the <font> Bull-Inn </font> in <font> Drury-lane
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.220)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How do you know it ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.221)

Mrs. <font> Quino . </font> Because his Servant that was there has
testified it . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.222)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Now swear my Lord <font> Aston </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.223)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.224)

$We $'ll {TEXT:We'll} bring <font> Ireland </font> now upon the 3d of
<font> August </font> at Night , to my Lord <font> Aston's </font>
House at <font> Standen </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.225)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray will your Lordship give my Lord and
the Jury an account , when Mr. <font> Ireland </font> came to your
House , and how far he travelled with you afterwards ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.226)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> My Lord , being in Town , I was spoke to ,
and desired , that Mr. <font> Ireland </font> might have the
Opportunity of going in my Company down into <font> Staffordshire
</font> ; which I consented to . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.227)

I went out of Town , as I remember , the latter end of <font> July
</font> 1678 , (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.228)

and this same Mr. <font> Ireland </font> came to me at my house in
<font> Hertfordshire </font> at <font> Standen </font> , upon the 3d of
<font> August </font> at Night . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.229)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Day of the Week was that , my Lord ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.230)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> As I remember , it was <font> Saturday
</font> , and in the Evening . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.231)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long did he stay with your Lordship ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.232)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> My Lord , I staid till <font> Monday
</font> at <font> Standen </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.233)

and upon <font> Monday </font> he went in my Company to <font> St.
Albans </font> , which was the 5th of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.234)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Whither then did you go , my Lord ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.235)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> There I met with my Brother and Sister
<font> Southcoat </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.236)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> you mean , my
Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.237)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> Yes , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.238)

And thence , in four Days , we went to my House at <font> Tixhall
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.239)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did Mr. <font> Ireland </font> travel with you
all the way ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.240)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} charge my Memory
, my Lord , that he did , so as particularly to swear it :
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.241)

But there he came into my Company sometimes at <font> Tixhall </font> ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.242)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell the particular Days :
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.243)

Nor could I speak positively to those things that I have spoke to now ,
but that I find in my Note-Book , that at that time he did come to my
House at <font> Standen </font> , and did go with me to <font> St.
Albans </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.244)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Pray , my Lord , did he go that Journey to
<font> Tixhall </font> along with you ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.245)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} say positively
that , Mr. <font> Attorney </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.246)

but I have a general Notion that he did . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.247)

Nor could I testify this so positively , I say , but by Notes that I
have of things at that time : Where I have only writ down these things
concerning Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , that he came the 3d of <font>
August </font> to my House at <font> Standen </font> : That on <font>
Monday </font> we went together to <font> St. Albans </font> ; and
there met us Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> , and my Sister his Wife
; and thence I went to <font> Tixhall </font> ; and there I arriv'd the
8th of <font> August </font> , which was <font> Thursday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.248)

<font> L. C. J. </font> My Lord , I ask you this Question ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.249)

you say , you have a general Apprehension , that he did go with you to
<font> Tixhall </font> : (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.250)

Pray , did he come with you to <font> Standen </font> for that purpose
, to go with you to <font> Tixhall </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.251)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I had no business with him at all ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.252)

but he desired the opportunity to go down in my Company into <font>
Staffordshire </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.253)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray , my Lord , do you remember you saw him
within four or five Days after at <font> Tixhall </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C1.254)

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Lord <font> Aston . </font> To name particular Days , I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.256)

but that I saw him several Days at <font> Tixhall </font> , I am sure .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.257)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , you say that Sir <font> John Southcoat
</font> went with you to <font> Tixhall </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.258)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> Yes , he did so . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.259)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I would ask this Nobleman , whether he
was at the Trial of the five Jesuits ? or the Trial of <font> Ireland
</font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.260)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> No , my Lord , I was not .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.261)

<font> Oates . </font> Then I would ask my Lord , if he saw Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> executed ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.262)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> No , I did not . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.263)

<font> Oates . </font> Then I would ask him this Question ; whether the
<font> Ireland </font> that was executed be the same <font> Ireland
</font> he speaks of ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.264)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> Amongst those that knew him well , I have
been told it was the same . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.265)

<font> Oates . </font> That is but Hear-say , my Lord ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.266)

he does not speak of his own Knowledge . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.267)

<font> L. C. J. </font> For that matter , I suppose , $you $'ll
{TEXT:you'll} produce some other <font> Ireland </font> , Mr. <font>
Oates </font> , if it was not the same . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.268)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Was it this Mrs. <font> Ireland's </font>
Brother , that was here a Witness now ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.269)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> He was so reputed , and so looked upon .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.270)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That is all one . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.271)

If any body should ask me , if you were the same Mr. <font> Oates
</font> that was at <font> St. Omers </font> ; I should say , I heard
so ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.272)

and it would be very good Evidence , unless some one else were produc'd
. (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.273)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I submit ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.274)

I will be directed by the Court in any thing that is fair , and not
injurious to my Defence . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.275)

<font> L. C. J. </font> We will not direct you in any thing $that $'s
{TEXT:that's} foul , (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.276)

but pray keep to those Questions that are pertinent .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.277)

<font> Oates . </font> Are you sure <font> Ireland </font> went the
whole Journey with you , my Lord ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.278)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I did answer that ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.279)

I have but a general Notion of it , (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.280)

he came to me for that purpose . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.281)

<font> Oates . </font> Then my Lord is not positive he went with him
into <font> Staffordshire </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.282)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No he is not ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.283)

but I would ask you this Question . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.284)

My Lord <font> Aston </font> , do you believe he went with you to
<font> Tixhall </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.285)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I make no doubt about it ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.286)

I would pawn all I have in the World upon it ; (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.287)

only I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} swear it , because I have it not in my
Notes , as I have those two other Days . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.288)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins . </font> Do you like him the worse , because
he is cautious , Mr. <font> Oates </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.289)

<font> Oates . </font> No , Sir , I do not . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.290)

But pray , my Lord , ask him , because it is a Question here about a
point of Time ; whether he remembers , that within eight or ten Days ,
he saw <font> Ireland </font> at <font> Tixhall </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.291)

Lord <font> Aston . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} say any thing as
to that . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.292)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Sir <font> Edward Southcoat </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.293)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.294)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I thought you had called him Sir <font> John
Southcoat </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.295)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Sir <font> John </font> is sick ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.296)

and $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be here . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.297)

<font> Oates . </font> I suppose my Lord <font> Aston </font> is a
<font> Roman </font> Catholick ? (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.298)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , that all the World knows very well ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.299)

but I tell you what , Mr. <font> Oates </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.300)

I observe , he is not so easy in giving his Oath ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.301)

nay , he is wonderful cautious in swearing : (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.302)

I speak it for his Commendation , not as his Fault ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.303)

he is not very forward at swearing . (OATES-E3-H,4,75.C2.304)

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<font> L. C. J. </font> You say , you did write to him upon the 2d of
<font> September </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.306)

Mrs. <font> Harwell . </font> Yes , I did so . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.307)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What was the occasion of your writing to him at
that time ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.308)

Mrs. <font> Harwell . </font> One Madame <font> Dormer </font> was then
in those Parts , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.309)

and he being gone a visiting his Friends at <font> Black-Ladies </font>
, I writ to him , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.310)

and desired him to give her a Visit , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.311)

for I knew she would be glad to see him . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.312)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He came back to you the 4th of <font> September
</font> , you say ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.313)

Mrs. <font> Harwell . </font> Yes , he did so , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.314)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did he own upon the fourth of <font> September
</font> , that he had received your Letter ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.315)

Mrs. <font> Harwell . </font> He said he had been at the Place , My
Lord , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.316)

but I know not whether he had received my Letter or no ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.317)

but I am sure he waited upon my Lady , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.318)

for she told me so afterwards . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.319)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know , whether this Gentlewoman was
at <font> Ireland's </font> Trial ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.320)

Mrs. <font> Harwell . </font> No , my Lord ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.321)

but I heard that upon the 17th of <font> December </font> following ,
Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was tried at the <font> Old-Bailey </font>
for High-Treason . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.322)

Upon the 19th , I was informed by the Post what was sworn against him ;
and particularly as to this time , which I knew to be false :
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.323)

And upon my own Cost and Charges I sent an Express away to Town here to
a Friend that I knew , upon reading the Letter that was written to me ,
that Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was falsely accused ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.324)

and by that Express also I sent a Petition , humbly beseeching his late
Majesty , that we might bring in Witnesses to prove , that Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> was in <font> Staffordshire </font> , when Mr. <font>
Oates </font> swore he was in Town ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.325)

and upon that the King staid the Execution about five Weeks .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.326)

We did hope for a second Trial , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.327)

but we could not obtain it ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.328)

and he was executed . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.329)

I did it at my own Cost and Charges : (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.330)

For I thought it my Duty , if I could , to save his Life . knowing that
to be false which was sworn against him . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.331)

<font> L. C. J. </font> She speaks gravely and soberly , upon my Word .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.332)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins . </font> So she does indeed .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.333)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> We have abundance of them , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.334)

Swear Mr. <font> William Rushton </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.335)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.336)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Tell my Lord what you know of Mr. <font>
Ireland's </font> being at Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font> in <font>
August </font> 1678 , at <font> Wolverhampton </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.337)

Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> My Lord , in the Month of <font> August
</font> 1678 , I did see Mr. <font> William Ireland </font> at <font>
Wolverhampton </font> in the County of <font> Stafford </font> ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.338)

and it was upon the 18th of <font> August </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.339)

and I saw him there , from the 18th to the 25th , every one of the days
but one , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.340)

and that I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be positive in .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.341)

He went that day to <font> Litchfield </font> , which was upon the 23d
, as I take it , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.342)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be positive ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.343)

but all the rest of the days I did see him there once , if not twice or
thrice a day . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.344)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Where did he lodge then ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.345)

Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> At Mr. <font> Jyfford's </font> , or Mrs.
<font> Harwell's </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.346)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you at any of the Trials of <font> Ireland
</font> , or the five Jesuits , Sir ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.347)

Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> No , I was never at one till now .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.348)

<font> Oates . </font> Pray , my Lord , what Religion is this Gentleman
of , I desire to know ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C1.349)

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Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> Not of your Worship's Religion , Dr.
<font> Oates </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.351)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But answer this Question .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.352)

Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> I am a Catholick .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.353)

<font> Oates . </font> A <font> Roman </font> Catholick he means , I
suppose . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.354)

Mr. <font> Rushton . </font> Yes ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.355)

I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick , and a loyal Subject .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.356)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Katherine Winford
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.357)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.358)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Mrs. <font> Winford </font> , pray did you
see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> at Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font> , in
the Year 1678 ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.359)

Mrs. <font> Winford . </font> Yes , I did , Sir .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.360)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Pray tell the Court what you do know of
that matter . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.361)

Mrs. <font> Winford . </font> I did hear at <font> Wolverhampton
</font> , that Mr. <font> Ireland </font> came to Town the 17th of
<font> August </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.362)

and I did see him there the 18th , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.363)

and I did see him there the 19th , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.364)

and I did see him the ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.365)

and I saw him there upon the 22d , 23d , 24th , and 25th ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.366)

and that was the last time I saw him there . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.367)

<font> L. C. J. </font> At Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font> was it that
you saw him ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.368)

Mrs. <font> Winford . </font> Sometimes at Mrs. <font> Harwell's
</font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.369)

and sometimes at my Father's House , who lived in that Town .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.370)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to know how she comes to
remember those Days so particularly ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.371)

Mrs. <font> Winford . </font> I remember them , because St. <font>
Bartholomew's </font> Day was the 24th of <font> August </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.372)

and that was the <font> Saturday </font> after he came to Town ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.373)

and the first day I saw him was the <font> Sunday </font> before ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.374)

and so I reckon it to be on those days I saw him .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.375)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you any other Questions to ask her , Mr.
<font> Oates </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.376)

<font> Oates . </font> No , my Lord , I have not :
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.377)

She was a Witness before at <font> Whitebread's </font> Trial ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.378)

and was not believed there . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.379)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , make your Remarks by and by ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.380)

and let them now go on with their Evidence . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.381)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Then swear Mr. <font> William Stanley
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.382)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.383)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Pray , did you see Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> at <font> Wolverhampton </font> , and when ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.384)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> Upon the 18th of <font> August </font> 78
. (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.385)

It was <font> Sunday </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.386)

I saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font> in <font> Wolverhampton </font> in the
Morning , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.387)

and in the Afternoon he was in my own House . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.388)

Upon <font> Monday </font> the 19th I saw him twice that day at my own
House ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.389)

I positively speak that , (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.390)

and I verily believe I did see him on <font> Tuesday </font> the , and
<font> Wednesday </font> the 21st ; (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.391)

but <font> Thursday </font> and <font> Friday </font> I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} say I did see him those two Days :
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.392)

For he went upon one of them to <font> Litchfield </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.393)

But upon <font> Saturday </font> and <font> Sunday </font> I am sure I
saw him , and two or three times some days . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.394)

<font> Oates . </font> Pray , Mr. <font> Stanley </font> , did you know
him before ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.395)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> No , I did not , Sir .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.396)

<font> Oates . </font> Was you at his Trial ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.397)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> No , I was not . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.398)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you at the five Jesuits Trial ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.399)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> No , I was not in <font> London </font>
since , till the last Term . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.400)

<font> Oates . </font> What Religion are you of , Sir ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.401)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> What Religion are you of , Mr. <font>
Oates </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.402)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nay , do not ask Questions ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.403)

but answer the Questions he asks . (OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.404)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick .
(OATES-E3-H,4,82.C2.405)

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Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Mr. <font> Stanley </font> , pray can you
recollect any Circumstance how you came to remember that it was such
and such Days that you saw him ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.407)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> Yes , my Lord , I can .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.408)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What are they , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.409)

tell them us ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.410)

Mr. <font> Stanley . </font> I buried a Child that Morning , being
<font> Sunday </font> the 18th of <font> August </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.411)

and he came to my House in the Afternoon , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.412)

and I entertained him with those things that I had provided for to
entertain my Friends at the Funeral . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.413)

On <font> Monday </font> was a Wake , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.414)

and the young People went all to the Wake , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.415)

and left Madam <font> Harwell </font> alone ; (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.416)

and so she came with him to my House , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.417)

and I entertained him with the same kind of Entertainment that I did
the Day before . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.418)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That is a remarkable Circumstance indeed .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.419)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Dorothy Purcell </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.420)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.421)

What say you Mrs. <font> Purcell </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.422)

when did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> at <font> Wolverhampton
</font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.423)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> I saw him the 18th , 19th , , 21st , 22d
, and 23d Days of <font> August </font> , 1678 .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.424)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Where did you see him ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.425)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> At a Friend's House in <font>
Wolverhampton </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.426)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How come you to remember those Days of the
Month ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.427)

Mr. <font> Purcell . </font> I remember them by particular
Circumstances . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.428)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What are those particular Circumstances ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.429)

Let us hear them , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.430)

how come you to name those very Days , the 18th , 19th , and so on ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.431)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> I can remember it as well as any thing in
the World . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.432)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire , my Lord , that she may tell how she
does remember it . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.433)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> $That $'s {TEXT:That's} enough , and as
much as need to be said , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.434)

I remember very well . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.435)

<font> Oates . </font> But I desire to know how you come to remember it
? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.436)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> I remember it , I tell you , very well ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.437)

and I do affirm I saw him there . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.438)

<font> Oates . </font> But you do not tell what Circumstances you
remember it by . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.439)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> No , there is no need of it ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.440)

I am sure I saw him there then . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.441)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Tell him some Circumstances .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.442)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> Those were the Days before <font>
Bartholomew </font> Eve . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.443)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , is this any thing of Evidence ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.444)

<font> L. C. J. </font> The Jury hears it , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.445)

and they will consider of it . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.446)

<font> Oates . </font> What Religion are you of , Mistress ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.447)

Mrs. <font> Purcell . </font> Must I tell what Religion I am of ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.448)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Yes , answer his Question .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.449)

<font> Oates . </font> I dare say , she is a Papist ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.450)

she need not trouble her head to answer it . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.451)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mr. <font> Scott </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.452)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.453)

Were you at <font> Wolverhampton </font> when Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> was there ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.454)

<font> Scott . </font> Yes , I was . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.455)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Did you do any service for him there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.456)

<font> Scott . </font> I look'd to his Horse . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.457)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> When did he come thither , do you remember
? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.458)

<font> Scott . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell just the time
that he came in . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.459)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What Day of the Week was it that he came
thither ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.460)

<font> Scott . </font> It was of a <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.461)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What Month was it ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C1.462)

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<font> Scott . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell very well what
Month it was ; (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.464)

it was in <font> August </font> I think . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.465)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> How long did he continue there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.466)

<font> Scott . </font> The space of a Fortnight off and on .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.467)

<font> Oates . </font> Is that Evidence , my Lord , that he has
delivered ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.468)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It is but very small Evidence .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.469)

It is only circumstantial to confirm the other Testimony .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.470)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> How long was it before <font> Ireland
</font> was tried and executed , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.471)

can you tell that ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.472)

<font> Scott . </font> No , I know nothing of it .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.473)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Then swear Mr. <font> John Stamford </font>
. (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.474)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.475)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> at
<font> Wolverhampton </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.476)

and when was it , I pray you ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.477)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> My Lord , in the Year 1675 , I was sent
beyond Sea to <font> St. Omers </font> , to fetch over two young
Gentlemen that were Students there ; (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.478)

and there I became acquainted with Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , who was
then Procurator of the Jesuits at <font> St. Omers </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.479)

And in <font> August </font> 78 , I did see him in <font> Wolverhampton
</font> , upon the <font> Sunday </font> after the Assumption of our
Lady ; which was the 15th of <font> August </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.480)

he came to see me , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.481)

and I saw him there that Day . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.482)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Day of the Month is the Assumption of our
Lady ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.483)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> That is always the 15th of <font> August
</font> , my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.484)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> How often did you see him there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.485)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> I saw him <font> Sunday </font> and
<font> Monday </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.486)

and till that seven-night ; I saw him every Day in that Week but one ,
when he went to <font> Litchfield </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.487)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to know how he comes to
remember that it was at that time ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.488)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He tells you a Reason for it , because it fell
out to be upon the <font> Sunday </font> after the Assumption of our
Lady , which is always the 15th of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.489)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , he says he came acquainted with Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> at <font> St. Omers </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.490)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Yes , he says , that was in the Year 1675 .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.491)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know , my Lord , what business he
had there ? (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.492)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He tells you , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.493)

he went to fetch over two young Men that were Students there .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.494)

<font> Oates . </font> Pray , my Lord , I desire to know what Religion
he is of . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.495)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Religion are you of ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.496)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.497)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know what is his Profession ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.498)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> I am a younger Brother of as {TEXT:a}
good and loyal Family as any of the County of <font> Stafford </font> ,
and that suffered as much as any for the late King .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.499)

<font> Oates . </font> I believe if it were look'd into , he is
somewhat else besides a younger Brother . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.500)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Yes , he says he is of a loyal Family .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.501)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I am sure there is such a Family in that County
that were great Sufferers for King <font> Charles </font> I. and the
late King ; and were very instrumental in Services for the late King ,
at his Escape from <font> Worcester </font> : (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.502)

but whether he be of that Family or no , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell
. (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.503)

Mr. <font> Stamford . </font> The Doctor thinks I am a Jesuit ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.504)

but $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} assure him I have a Wife and Children .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.505)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Mr. <font> Oates </font> was about to have
made him a Priest , (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.506)

but it seems he hath a Wife and Children , and so is out of danger .
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.507)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , swear Mrs. <font> Katherine Fowler
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.508)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.509)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> ,
Mrs. <font> Fowler </font> , at <font> Wolverhampton </font> in 1678 ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,83.C2.510)

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Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , I did . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.512)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> When was it ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.513)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> I did see him on <font> Saturday </font>
the 17th of <font> August </font> at <font> Wolverhampton </font> ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.514)

he came that day to my Mother's House , where I was .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.515)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> How long did he stay there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.516)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Till the 27th , which was <font> Monday
</font> was Seven-night after : (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.517)

I was in his Company every day in that time unless it were <font>
Friday </font> , which day they say he went to <font> Litchfield
</font> to the Fair . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.518)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Is Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> your Mother ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.519)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , my Lord , she is ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.520)

and I lived at that time with my Mother . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.521)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How do you remember this ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.522)

Have you any Tokens that you can give us , why you remember it was then
? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.523)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> My Lord , I recollected my self after Mr.
<font> Ireland's </font> Trial , in which Mr. <font> Oates </font>
swore that he was here in Town between the 8th and 12th of <font>
August </font> , that that was the very Month that Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> was in <font> Wolverhampton </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.524)

and thereupon I concluded that Mr. <font> Oates </font> had not sworn
true by that Recollection when it was fresh in my Memory , being within
half a Year after . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.525)

<font> Oates . </font> Madam , are you Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font>
Daughter ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.526)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , I am so , Sir .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.527)

<font> Oates . </font> Did you not know one Mr. <font> Jennison </font>
? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.528)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Which <font> Jennison </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.529)

<font> Oates . </font> Mr. <font> Robert Jennison </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.530)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , I do know him .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.531)

<font> Oates . </font> Are you not a-kin to him ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.532)

Mrs. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , but I am sorry to own I have such a
Relation . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.533)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mr. <font> Gifford </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.534)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.535)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> in
<font> Staffordshire </font> , and when I pray you ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.536)

Mr. <font> Gifford . </font> I saw him there at <font> Wolverhampton
</font> the 17th of <font> August </font> 1678 ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.537)

and he continued there till the 26th ; (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.538)

I saw him there every day . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.539)

<font> Oates . </font> Pray , my Lord , be pleased to ask this
Gentleman , whether he were at the Trial of <font> Ireland </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.540)

Mr. <font> Gifford . </font> No , I was not in Court , nor examined as
a Witness . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.541)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you at the Trial of the five Jesuits , Sir
? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.542)

Mr. <font> Gifford . </font> I was there , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.543)

but was not examined . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.544)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was it every day , say you , that you saw him
at <font> Wolverhampton </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.545)

Mr. <font> Gifford . </font> Every day . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.546)

<font> L. C. J. </font> They say , he was one day out of Town at <font>
Litchfield </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.547)

Mr. <font> Gifford . </font> He was out of Town that day ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.548)

but I saw him . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.549)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Elizabeth Gifford </font>
. (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.550)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.551)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> You hear the Question ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.552)

did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> in <font> Staffordshire </font>
in 78 , and when ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.553)

Mrs. <font> E. Gifford . </font> Mr. <font> Ireland </font> came to
<font> Wolverhampton </font> the 17th of <font> August </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.554)

and continued there till the 26th . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.555)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> How do you remember it ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.556)

Mrs. <font> Gifford . </font> By a Wake that was just hard by , that
was at that time : (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.557)

and he came to my Uncle's House upon the <font> Sunday </font>
following the Assumption of our <font> Lady </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.558)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Did you see him every day till the 26th ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.559)

Mrs. <font> Gifford . </font> I remember I did see him every day but
two days that I was abroad at the Wake . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C1.560)

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<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to know , whether she was
examined at any of the former Trials ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.562)

Mrs. <font> Gifford . </font> Yes , at the five Jesuits Trial , I was .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.563)

<font> Oates . </font> Were you not at <font> Ireland's </font> Trial ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.564)

Mrs. <font> Gifford . </font> No , I was not . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.565)

<font> Oates . </font> There was one <font> Gifford </font> examined
there . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.566)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Elizabeth Keeling </font>
. (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.567)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.568)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Did you see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> at
<font> Wolverhampton </font> , and when ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.569)

<font> Keeling . </font> Yes , my Lord , I did see Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> at <font> Wolverhampton </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.570)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray tell when it was .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.571)

<font> Keeling . </font> It was the 17th of <font> August </font> he
came to my Mistress's House . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.572)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What <font> August </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.573)

<font> Keeling . </font> <font> August </font> before the Plot .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.574)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who was your Mistress ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.575)

<font> Keeling . </font> Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.576)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> How long did he continue there ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.577)

<font> Keeling . </font> He came on the <font> Saturday </font> ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.578)

and I saw him there till the <font> Monday </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.579)

When I was sent for to my Mother's Burying , I left him and Madam
<font> Dormer </font> at Dinner , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.580)

and came back on the <font> Thursday </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.581)

And in his Chamber I heard him discourse , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.582)

but I did not see him . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.583)

Upon the <font> Friday </font> he went abroad ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.584)

and returned again that Night . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.585)

Upon the <font> Saturday </font> I saw him , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.586)

and he continued there till <font> Monday </font> Morning ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.587)

and then he went away , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.588)

and returned on <font> Wednesday </font> the 4th of <font> September
</font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.589)

and staid till <font> Saturday </font> the 7th ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.590)

and then went away from <font> Wolverhampton </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.591)

<font> Oates . </font> I desire to know what Religion this Woman is of
? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.592)

<font> Keeling . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick , God be
thanked . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.593)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Mrs. <font> Keeling </font> , when did Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> return again , do you say , after he went first
to <font> Wolverhampton </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.594)

<font> Keeling . </font> It was the <font> Wednesday </font>
seven-night after , Sir . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.595)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> That was the 4th of <font> September
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.596)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long staid he there then ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.597)

<font> Keeling . </font> Till <font> Saturday </font> in the Forenoon .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.598)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Whither did he say he was going then ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.599)

<font> Keeling . </font> He said he went to <font> Bellamour </font> to
Dinner . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.600)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see him at any time after ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.601)

<font> Keeling . </font> No , my Lord , I saw him no more .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.602)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Then swear Mr. <font> Richardson </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.603)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.604)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , Sir , will you give an account when
you saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , and where , in the Year 78 ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.605)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> My Lord , I saw a Gentleman that I was
informed was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , at <font> Wolverhampton
</font> , at a Wake ; which was <font> Monday </font> the 19th of
<font> August </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.606)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Where did he lodge ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.607)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> At Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.608)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What are you , a Tradesman ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.609)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> Yes , an Apothecary in <font>
Wolverhampton </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.610)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How many Days did you see him at <font>
Wolverhampton </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.611)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> I saw him only one Day in the
Market-place . (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.612)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You did not know Mr. <font> Ireland </font>
before ? (OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.613)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> But I was informed that was he .
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.614)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What became of that <font> Ireland </font> that
you were informed was at <font> Wolverhampton </font> then ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,84.C2.615)

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Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> I heard presently after that , upon Mr.
<font> Oates's </font> Plot , he was secured and executed .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.617)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What Religion are you of , pray , Sir ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.618)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> I am of the Church of <font> England
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.619)

<font> Oates . </font> Pray , Sir , I would ask you this Question .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.620)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> As many Questions as you please , Mr.
<font> Oates </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.621)

<font> Oates . </font> Who told you it was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.622)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.623)

<font> Oates . </font> When was it she told you it was <font> Ireland
</font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.624)

Mr. <font> Richardson . </font> To the best of my remembrance , it was
before he was apprehended as a Traitor . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.625)

<font> Oates . </font> He is uncertain when he was told so .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.626)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , make what advantage you can of it by and
by . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.627)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Swear Mrs. <font> Eleanor Graves </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.628)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.629)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , Mistress , did you see Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> at <font> Wolverhampton </font> at any time ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.630)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> Yes , I did , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.631)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> When was it ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.632)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> The first time was six Years ago in <font>
August </font> , (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.633)

it is now going on seven Years since . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.634)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> What time in <font> August </font> was it ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.635)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> The first Day was the or 21st ,
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.636)

I am sure I saw him upon the 22d ; (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.637)

for I dined with him , (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.638)

and was with him all the Afternoon , (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.639)

and supp'd with him . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.640)

Upon the 23d we went to <font> Litchfield </font> together , which was
<font> Bartholomew </font> Eve . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.641)

And I saw him the 25th , which was <font> Sunday </font> after .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.642)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Are you sure it is the <font> Ireland </font>
we are now speaking of ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.643)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> They said it was the same Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> that was executed . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.644)

They call'd him so . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.645)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nay , there is no great doubt , but only for
Mr. <font> Oates's </font> Satisfaction . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.646)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> At whose House did he lie at <font>
Wolverhampton </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.647)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> At Mrs. <font> Harwell's </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.648)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Where was it you supp'd with him , I pray
you ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.649)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> He dined and supp'd at a Relation's House
of mine . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.650)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who was that ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.651)

name him . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.652)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> It was at my Uncle <font> Winford's
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.653)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you go along with him to <font> Litchfield
</font> , do you say , on the 23d ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.654)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> Yes , and so did my Uncle ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.655)

and at Night we came back together . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.656)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> What Religion are you of , Mistress ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.657)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> I am of the Church of <font> England
</font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.658)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to ask her , how did she know
it was the same <font> Ireland </font> that was try'd ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.659)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> It was the same <font> Ireland </font>
that they said was afterwards executed . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.660)

I know no more . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.661)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Did you go back with him to Mrs. <font>
Harwell's </font> from <font> Litchfield </font> ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.662)

Mrs. <font> Graves . </font> I did , to my Uncle <font> Winford's
</font> House . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.663)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Now we come , my Lord , to another Period
of Time , which is from the 26th of <font> August </font> to the 29th ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.664)

and for that , we first call Sir <font> Thomas Whitegrave </font> , who
is a Justice of the Peace , and a worthy Gentleman ; a Member of the
Church of <font> England </font> in that County .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.665)

Swear him . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.666)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.667)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , Sir <font> Thomas </font> , will
you be pleas'd to give the Court an account , whether you saw Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> in <font> Staffordshire </font> 1678 , and what
time it was ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C1.668)

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Sir <font> Thomas Whitegrave . </font> I saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font>
upon the 29th of <font> August </font> before the Popish Plot ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.670)

it was upon a <font> Thursday </font> in the Afternoon upon <font>
Tixhall </font> Bowling-green ; (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.671)

and I discoursed with him : (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.672)

he told me he was to go home that Night with Sir <font> James Simmons
</font> , and Mr. <font> Heveningham </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.673)

They told me afterwards he went on <font> Saturday </font> to <font>
Hildersham </font> , and went thence on <font> Monday </font> following
towards <font> Boscabel </font> : (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.674)

some time after that , a Rumour came down that Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> was accused with others , of being in a Plot of the Papists ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.675)

and myself , and some others that were in Commission for the Peace in
that County , did reflect upon the time that <font> Ireland </font> was
in the Country ; (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.676)

and we were a little disturbed , because he had been at particular
Places among our Neighbours , whom we knew to be Catholicks .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.677)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Can you remember no Day but that one , Sir
<font> Thomas </font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.678)

Sir <font> Thomas Whitegrave . </font> Only the 29th I saw him there ,
and discours'd with him ; (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.679)

and afterwards there was word sent to me , to desire me that I would
come up to <font> London </font> at his Trial .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.680)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And did you come up , Sir <font> Thomas </font>
? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.681)

Sir <font> Thomas Whitegrave . </font> No , I did not ;
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.682)

I had no <font> Subpoena </font> ; (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.683)

and being a Justice of the Peace , I did not think fit to leave the
Country at that time without a <font> Subpoena </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.684)

<font> Oates . </font> My Lord , I desire to know of this Gentleman ,
how long he had been acquainted with Mr. <font> Ireland </font> .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.685)

Sir <font> Thomas Whitegrave . </font> I never saw him before , nor
since . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.686)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He goes no further than the 29th .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.687)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> No , my Lord , he does not .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.688)

Then swear Mr. <font> William Fowler </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.689)

<font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.690)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , will you give an account when you
saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , and where ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.691)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> I saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font> upon the
27th of <font> August </font> 78 , in <font> Staffordshire </font> , at
a Horse-Race at <font> Etching-hill </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.692)

The Race was run between Sir <font> Henry Gough </font> , and Captain
<font> Chetwind </font> . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.693)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Did you see him any other Day in that
Month ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.694)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , the 19th of <font> August </font> I
saw him at <font> Tixhall </font> Bowling-green .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.695)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> When else did you see him ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.696)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> I saw him the of <font> August </font>
before . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.697)

Mr. <font> Sol. Gen. </font> Where , at <font> Tixhall </font> , at my
Lord <font> Aston's </font> House . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.698)

Mr. <font> At. Gen. </font> Do you remember {COM:sic} Sir <font> Thomas
Whitegrave </font> was upon the Bowling-green the 27th of <font> August
</font> ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.699)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , he was , (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.700)

and did discourse with Mr. <font> Ireland </font> there .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.701)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What became of Mr. <font> Ireland </font>
afterwards ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.702)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> He went about the Country for some time ,
my Lord . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.703)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was it the same <font> Ireland </font> that was
executed ? (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.704)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , it was the same .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.705)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You say you saw him the 29th at <font> Tixhall
</font> Bowling-green . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.706)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> Yes , I did so . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.707)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When you heard he was taken up for the Plot ,
what did they say whither he went at that time ?
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.708)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> I think he went to Mr. <font> Heveningham's
</font> , or thereabouts . (OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.709)

<font> Oates . </font> I would fain know this Gentleman's Religion .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.710)

Mr. <font> Fowler . </font> I am a <font> Roman </font> Catholick .
(OATES-E3-H,4,85.C2.711)

