<P_IV,113C2>

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou had'st need to know it very well ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.2)

for it seems thou wentest without a Candle or any thing in the World ,
and put in thy Horse . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.3)

Did'st thou see that Man <font> Carpenter </font> the Bailiff that thou
spokest of ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.4)

<font> Dunne . </font> Mr. <font> Carpenter </font> gave my Horse Hay .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.5)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was there any Light in the Stable ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.6)

<font> Dunne . </font> Not when I put in my Horse first .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.7)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who brought the Light thither ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.8)

<font> Dunne . </font> Goodman <font> Carpenter </font> .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.9)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not he give thy Horse Hay ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.10)

<font> Dunne . </font> Yes , he did . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.11)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And did he not give him Oats too ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.12)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , he did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.13)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not he conduct you into the House ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.14)

<font> Dunne . </font> Who , my Lord ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.15)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That same Goodman <font> Carpenter </font> .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.16)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.17)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see any body else but that Girl you
speak of ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.18)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I did see the Girl there .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.19)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But you Blockhead , I ask you whether you did
see any body else ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.20)

<font> Dunne . </font> I do not know but I might see Goodman <font>
Carpenter </font> . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,113C2.21)

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<font> L. C. J. </font> Why , thou said'st he brought the Light , and
gave thy Horse Hay ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.23)

but I see thou art set upon nothing but Prevarication :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.24)

Sirrah , tell me plainly , did you see no body else ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.25)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.26)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Not any body ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.27)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , not any one .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.28)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you not drink in the House ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.29)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , not a Drop .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.30)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not you call for Drink ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.31)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , I did not ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.32)

I had nothing but my Cake and Cheese that I brought thither my self .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.33)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who went up to the Chamber with you ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.34)

<font> Dunne . </font> The Girl , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.35)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And no body else ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.36)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.37)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was the Bed made ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.38)

<font> Dunne . </font> Yes , my Lord , it was .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.39)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You eat nothing in the House , you say ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.40)

<font> Dunne . </font> Nothing but my own Cake and Cheese , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.41)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But you did not drink in the House at all ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.42)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , I did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.43)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you drink at <font> Marton </font> , where
you did call upon <font> Fane </font> . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.44)

<font> Dunne . </font> Yes , I did , but not afterwards .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.45)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see any body there the next Morning
before they were taken ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.46)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.47)

but after the House was beset , I saw my Lady and Mr. <font> Hicks
</font> , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.48)

and I think I saw Goodman <font> Carpenter </font> .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.49)

<font> L. C. J. </font> They and you were taken there together , were
not you ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.50)

<font> Dunne . </font> Yes . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.51)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see <font> Carpenter's </font> Wife ,
upon your Oath , that Night ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.52)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I did not . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.53)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nor no Woman-kind besides the Girl you speak of
? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.54)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.55)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nor no Man besides <font> Carpenter </font> ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.56)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.57)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You are sure of this ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.58)

<font> Dunne . </font> I am so , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.59)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You are sure you did not drink there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.60)

<font> Dunne . </font> I am , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.61)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And you say he brought the Light into the
Stable , and gave your Horse Hay ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.62)

<font> Dunne . </font> He did , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.63)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Now $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} tell me truly ,
where came <font> Carpenter </font> unto you ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.64)

I must know the Truth of that ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.65)

remember that I gave you fair Warning , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.66)

do not tell me a Lye , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.67)

for I will be sure to treasure up every Lye that thou tellest me ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.68)

and thou may'st be certain it will not be for thy Advantage :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.69)

I would not terrify thee to make thee say any thing but the Truth :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.70)

but assure thy self I never met with a lying , sneaking , canting
Fellow , but I always treasur'd up Vengeance for him :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.71)

and therefore look to it , that thou dost not prevaricate with me ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.72)

for to be sure thou wilt come to the worst of it in the end ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.73)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I will tell the Truth as near as I can
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.74)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then tell me where <font> Carpenter </font> met
thee ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.75)

<font> Dunne . </font> In the Court , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.76)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Before you came to the Gate , or after ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.77)

<font> Dunne . </font> It was after we came to the Gate , in the Court
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C1.78)

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<font> L. C. J. </font> Then tell me , and I charge you tell me true ,
who was with you when <font> Carpenter </font> met you ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.80)

<font> Dunne . </font> <font> Hicks </font> and <font> Nelthorp </font>
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.81)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was there any body else besides them two in the
Court ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.82)

<font> Dunne . </font> There was no body but <font> Hicks </font> and
<font> Nelthorp </font> , and I and Mr. <font> Carpenter </font> .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.83)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You are sure of that ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.84)

<font> Dunne . </font> Yes , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.85)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Consider of it , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.86)

are you sure there was no body else ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.87)

<font> Dunne . </font> Truly , my Lord , I did not mind that there was
any body else . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.88)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Recollect your self , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.89)

and consider well of it . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.90)

<font> Dunne . </font> Truly , my Lord , I do not know of any body else
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.91)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Now upon your Oath tell me truly , who it was
that opened the Stable-door , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.92)

was it <font> Carpenter </font> or you ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.93)

<font> Dunne . </font> It was <font> Carpenter </font> , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.94)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Why , thou vile Wretch didst not thou tell me
just now that thou pluck'd up the Latch ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.95)

Dost thou take the God of Heaven not to be a God of Truth , and that he
is not a Witness of all thou say'st ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.96)

Dost thou think because thou prevaricatest with the Court here , thou
can'st do so with God above , who knows thy Thoughts ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.97)

and it is infinite Mercy , that for those Falshoods of thine , he does
not immediately strike thee into Hell ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.98)

Jesus God ! (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.99)

there is no sort of Conversation nor human Society to be kept with such
People as these are , who have no other Religion but only in Pretence ,
and no way to uphold themselves but by countenancing Lying and Villany
: (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.100)

Did not you tell me that you opened the Latch your self , and that you
saw no body else but a Girl ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.101)

How durst you offer to tell such horrid Lyes in the presence of God and
of a Court of Justice ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.102)

Answer me one Question more : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.103)

Did he pull down the Hay or you ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.104)

<font> Dunne . </font> I did not pull down any Hay at all .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.105)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was there any Hay pull'd down before the Candle
was brought ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.106)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , there was not . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.107)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who brought the Candle ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.108)

<font> Dunne . </font> Mr. <font> Carpenter </font> brought the Candle
and Lanthorn . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.109)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It seems the Saints have a certain Charter for
Lying ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.110)

they may lye and cant , and deceive , and rebel , and think God
Almighty takes no notice of it , nor will reckon with them for it :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.111)

You see , Gentlemen , what a precious Fellow this is , a very pretty
Tool to be employ'd upon such an Errand , a Knave that no body would
trust for half a Crown between Man and Man , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.112)

but he is the fitter to be employ'd about such Works ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.113)

what Pains is a Man at to get the Truth out of these Fellows ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.114)

and it is with a great deal of Labour , that we can squeeze one Drop
out of them ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.115)

A <font> Turk </font> has more Title to an Eternity of Bliss than these
Pretenders to Christianity , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.116)

for he has more Morality and Honesty in him . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.117)

Sirrah , I charge you in the presence of God , tell me true , What
other Persons did you see that Night ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.118)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I did not see any than what I have
told you already . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.119)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then they went out (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.120)

and brought word that thou wert come , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.121)

and so he came out to meet thee . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.122)

Very well : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,114C2.123)

I would have every body that has but the least Tang of Saintship to
observe the Carriage of this Fellow , and see how they can cant and
snivel , and lye , and forswear themselves , and all for <P_IV,115C1>
the Good Old Cause : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.124)

They will stick at nothing , if they think they can but preserve a
Brother or Sister Saint forsooth ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.125)

they can do any thing in the world but speak Truth , and do their Duty
to God and their Governours : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.126)

I ask you again , Did not <font> Carpenter </font> meet you before you
left <font> Hicks </font> and <font> Nelthorp </font> ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.127)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , he did not . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.128)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then I ask you again once more , did not <font>
Carpenter </font> ask you to drink ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.129)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , he did not . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.130)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not he light you with a Lanthorn and Candle
into the House ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.131)

<font> Dunne . </font> I went into the House .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.132)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Dost thou believe we think any body thrust thee
in : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.133)

Did he light thee in , I ask thee ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.134)

<font> Dunne . </font> I went in along with Mr. <font> Carpenter
</font> . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.135)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Room did he carry you into ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.136)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , he carried me into no Room ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.137)

the young Woman shew'd me into a Room . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.138)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Room was it ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.139)

<font> Dunne . </font> Into the Chamber . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.140)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was not thou in the Hall or Kitchen ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.141)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.142)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It is hard thou hadst not one Cup of Drink to
thy Cake and Cheese . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.143)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I had never a Drop .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.144)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No , nor did no body ask you to eat or drink ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.145)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.146)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou art the best-natur'd Fellow that ever I
met with , but the worst rewarded . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.147)

Come , I will ask thee another Question : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.148)

When was the first time thou heard'st <font> Nelthorp's </font> Name ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.149)

<font> Dunne . </font> Not till he was taken .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.150)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Name did the Fellow with the black Beard
tell thee he had ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.151)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , he never told me any Name ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.152)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Didst thou never ask him his Name ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.153)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , that Man that was afterwards
found to be <font> Nelthorp </font> , I did not know to be <font>
Nelthorp </font> till he was taken , nor what his Name was , nor any
Name he had . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.154)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} tell the Truth
, (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.155)

did not <font> Nelthorp </font> go by the Name of <font> Crofts </font>
? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.156)

<font> Dunne . </font> He did , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.157)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} , when did he
first go by that Name in thy Hearing ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.158)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I only heard <font> Hicks </font> say
he went by the Name of <font> Crofts </font> .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.159)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When was that ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.160)

<font> Dunne . </font> When they were taken . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.161)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you not hear him call'd by that Name any
time of the Journey ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.162)

<font> Dunne . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} recollect , my Lord ,
that I ever did . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.163)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou canst recollect nothing of Truth :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.164)

Is this as much as you can say ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.165)

<font> Dunne . </font> It is , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.166)

Mr. <font> Jennings . </font> You say <font> Carpenter </font> met you
very civilly , and took care of your Horse : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.167)

Did he make no Provision for <font> Hicks </font> and <font> Nelthorp's
</font> Horses ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.168)

What became of them ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.169)

<font> Dunne . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.170)

Mr. <font> Rumsey . </font> Did you see their Horses afterwards ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.171)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , I did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.172)

Mr. <font> Rumsey . </font> When they alighted from them , were they
ty'd fast to the Gate , or how ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.173)

<font> Dunne . </font> They were not ty'd at all , as I know of .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.174)

Mr. <font> Jennings . </font> Did you tell <font> Carpenter </font>
that their Horses were there ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.175)

<font> Dunne . </font> I did not tell him any such thing .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.176)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou art a strange prevaricating , shuffling ,
sniveling , lying Rascal . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C1.177)

<P_IV,115C2>

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> We will set him by for the present , and
call <font> Barter </font> , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C2.179)

that is the other Fellow . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C2.180)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Will the Prisoner ask this Person any Questions
? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C2.181)

<font> Lisle . </font> No . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,115C2.182)

<P_IV,120C1>

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , I hope I shall not be condemned without
being heard . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.184)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No , God forbid , Mrs. <font> Lisle </font> ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.185)

that was a sort of practice in your Husband's time ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.186)

you know very well what I mean : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.187)

But God be thanked , it is not so now ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.188)

the King's Courts of Law never condemn without hearing .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.189)

Col. <font> Penruddock </font> , have you any more to say ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.190)

Col. <font> Penruddock . </font> No , my Lord ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.191)

but here is one Mr. <font> Dowding </font> , that was with me when I
searched the House . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.192)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Swear him . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.193)

<font> Which was done . </font> (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.194)

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> Mr. <font> Dowding </font> , pray did
you go with Col. <font> Penruddock </font> to Mrs. <font> Lisle's
</font> House ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.195)

Mr. <font> Dowding . </font> Yes , my Lord : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.196)

We came to the House , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.197)

and beset the House round , some to the back Gate , and some to the
fore Gate ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.198)

we called almost half an hour before we got in ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.199)

and had found two , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.200)

and we came to my Lady ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.201)

she said , she knew nothing of any body being in the House -
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.202)

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , this Fellow that now speaks against me
, broke open my Trunk , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.203)

and stole away a great part of my best Linen ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.204)

and sure , my Lord , those Persons that rob me , are not fit to be
Evidences against me , because it behoves them that I be convicted , to
prevent their being indicted for Felony . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.205)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Look you , Friend , you say you went with Col.
<font> Penruddock </font> to search the House ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.206)

did you find any body there ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.207)

<font> Dowding . </font> Yes , my Lord , I found this same <font> Dunne
</font> in a little hole in the Malt-house . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.208)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was he covered , or not ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.209)

<font> Dowding . </font> He had taken some stuff or other to cover him
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.210)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you find <font> Hicks </font> there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.211)

<font> Dowding . </font> Yes , my Lord , we did find one that said his
Name was <font> Hicks </font> . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.212)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Is that the same <font> Hicks </font> that is
in <font> Salisbury </font> Goal ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.213)

<font> Dowding . </font> Yes , my Lord , it is ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.214)

I saw him yesterday at the <font> George </font> in <font> Salisbury
</font> , when he had that Discourse with those other Gentlemen .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.215)

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> Swear <font> Carpenter </font> and his
Wife . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.216)

<font> Which was done . </font> (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.217)

<font> Dowding . </font> My Lord , <font> Hicks </font> acknowledged
before me , that he was at <font> Keinsham </font> , in the Duke of
<font> $Monmouths </font> Army . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.218)

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> Come , Mrs. <font> Carpenter </font> ,
tell my Lord and the Jury , did you know the Time when these Men came
to your Lady's House ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.219)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Is this the Bailiff's Wife ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.220)

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> Yes , my Lord , it is .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.221)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well then , what say you to the Question :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.222)

Do you know the Time when they came ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.223)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes , my Lord , they came at night .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.224)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see them there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.225)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.226)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Were they lodged there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.227)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes ; but I never made the Bed .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.228)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who did ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C1.229)

<P_IV,120C2>

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot}
tell . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.231)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Had they any Supper , or Victuals there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.232)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes , they had .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.233)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who dress'd it ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.234)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> I did . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.235)

<font> L. C. J. </font> By whose Order did you dress it ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.236)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> By my Lady's Order .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.237)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} where did they eat
their Meat ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.238)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> In the Chamber , my Lord , where they
lay . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.239)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who was with them ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.240)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot}
tell , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.241)

for I did not stay in the Room . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.242)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Didst thou see them when they came into the
Room ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.243)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , I dress'd the Meat ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.244)

and carried it within the Door , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.245)

and my Husband set it upon the Table . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.246)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} tell me who was with
them : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.247)

Was thy Lady there ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.248)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lady was in presence there then .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.249)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long did they stay below stairs before they
went up ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.250)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> Truly , my Lord , I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} tell . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.251)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did your Lady use to sup below stairs or above
? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.252)

Mrs. <font> Carpenter . </font> She used to sup below , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.253)

Mr. <font> Pollexfen . </font> My Lord , if your Lordship please , this
Woman and her Husband are both unwilling Witnesses ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.254)

but we will examine the Husband , and see what we can get out of him .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.255)

Hark you , <font> Carpenter </font> , did you meet with this Fellow ,
<font> Dunne </font> , at his first coming to your Lady's House ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.256)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes , my Lord , I did see him there on
the <font> Saturday </font> . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.257)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well then , let me ask you a Question ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.258)

and be sure you tell me the Truth , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.259)

for it may be I know it already ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.260)

did he offer you a Letter to be deliver'd to your Lady ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.261)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.262)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What do you say , <font> Barter </font> ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.263)

<font> Barter . </font> I saw him produce it to Mr. <font> Carpenter
</font> , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.264)

but he refused to meddle with it . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.265)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , he asked me , if my Lady would
give Entertainment to one <font> Hicks </font> , and another Person ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.266)

but he did not know who that Person was . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.267)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did he speak of another Person ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.268)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes , he did . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.269)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who was that other Person ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.270)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> I did ask his Name ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.271)

but he said , he did not know him . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.272)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well then , when they came there on the <font>
Tuesday-night </font> , how did you receive them ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.273)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> I did not receive them .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.274)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not you light the Candle , and bring it in
a Lanthorn , to light him into the Stable ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.275)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , that was afterwards .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.276)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not you bring the Men into the House ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.277)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> No , my Lord , indeed I did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.278)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not you see them all night ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.279)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> Yes , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.280)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then where did you see them first ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.281)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> In the Room where they supp'd and lay .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.282)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did not you meet them in the Courtyard ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.283)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,120C2.284)

<P_IV,121C1>

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who gave you Directions to light <font> Dunne
</font> into the Stable ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.286)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> They told me his Horse was out in the
Yard . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.287)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who told you so ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.288)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> The Men did . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.289)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where did they sup ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.290)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> In the Room above stairs .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.291)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who supp'd along with them ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.292)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} say any body
supp'd with them . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.293)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was not my Lady there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.294)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> She was in the Room ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.295)

but I did not see her eat any thing . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.296)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What time of the night did they come ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.297)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> About Ten of the Clock .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.298)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And where did they lie ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.299)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> In the Room where they supped .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.300)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who lay there ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.301)

Mr. <font> Capenter . </font> <font> Hicks </font> and <font> Nelthorp
</font> lay there . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.302)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was <font> Nelthorp </font> named there ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.303)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> No , I never heard of his Name till
after he was taken . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.304)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What kind of a Man was he ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.305)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> A tall , thin , black Man .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.306)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , what can you say more ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.307)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , this Person has swore , that a
Letter was offered me , but I refused it ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.308)

but I assure your Lordship I never saw any Letter .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.309)

<font> Barter . </font> I am sure he met you ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.310)

and , as I remember , there was a Letter produced .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.311)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou should'st not be angry with him ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.312)

for he spoke very kindly of thee , that thou refused'st to meddle in it
, and thereupon <font> Dunne </font> went in to thy Lady , and
deliver'd his Message to her . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.313)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> That , my Lord , I acknowledge .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.314)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} let me ask
thee another Question : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.315)

Did you carry any Beer up into the Room ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.316)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lady gave order for the Provision .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.317)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you make <font> Dunne </font> drink ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.318)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> No , I did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.319)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you offer him any Drink ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.320)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , I did not see him drink at all
. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.321)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What say you , good Woman ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.322)

Did not your Lady sup there ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.323)

Mr. <font> Carpenter . </font> My Lord , my Wife was little there at
all ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.324)

Mr. <font> Rumsey . </font> Now , my Lord , <font> Dunne </font> says
he will tell all , whether it make for him or against him .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.325)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Let him but tell the Truth ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.326)

and I am satisfied . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.327)

<font> Dunne . </font> Sure , my Lord , I never entertained these Men a
night in my House in my Life ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.328)

but this <font> Hicks </font> sent that Man to me , to go to my Lady
<font> Lisle's </font> , to know whether she would please to entertain
him : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.329)

And when I came , my Lady asked me , whether he had been in the Army or
no ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.330)

I told her , I could not tell , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.331)

I did not know that he was . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.332)

She then ask'd me , if he had no body else with him ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.333)

I told her , I believed there was : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.334)

This is the very Truth of it , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.335)

I asked her , might the Men be entertain'd ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.336)

She said they might . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.337)

So when we came to my Lady <font> Lisle's </font> , on the <font>
Tuesday </font> night , somebody took the two Horses ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.338)

I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell who , if I were to die ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.339)

the two went in ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.340)

and after I had set up my Horse , I went in along with <font> Carpenter
</font> up into the Chamber to my Lady , and to this <font> Hicks
</font> and <font> Nelthorp </font> ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.341)

and when I came there , I heard my Lady bid them welcome to her House ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C1.342)

and Mr. <font> Carpenter </font> , <P_IV,121C2> or the Maid , I $can
$not {TEXT:cannot} tell which , brought in the Supper ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.343)

and set it on the Table . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.344)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And did'st thou eat or drink with 'em in the
Room , or not ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.345)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I will tell every thing that I know ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.346)

I confess I did both eat and drink there in the Room .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.347)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I pity thee with all my Soul ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.348)

and pray to God Almighty for thee to forgive thee , and to the blessed
Jesus to mediate for thee ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.349)

and I pray for thee with as much earnestness , as I would for my own
Soul ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.350)

and I beg of thee once more , as thou regardest thy own eternal Welfare
, to tell all the Truth . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.351)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I did never know these Men were in the
Army when I carried the Message to my Lady <font> Lisle's </font> ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.352)

nor never did entertain them in my House in my life-time , so much as
one Night . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.353)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} , I do not ask thee
what thou did'st not , but what thou did'st ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.354)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I will tell all I know .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.355)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Discourse had you that Night at the Table
in the Room ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.356)

<font> Dunne . </font> I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what Discourse
truly , my Lord , there was . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.357)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was there nothing of coming from beyond Seas ,
who came from thence , and how they came ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.358)

Come , I would have it rather the Effect of thy own Ingenuity , than
lead thee by any Questions that I can propound ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.359)

come , tell us what was the Discourse . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.360)

<font> Dunne . </font> I do not remember all the Discourse .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.361)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} , let me ask thee
one Question , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.362)

and answer me it fairly ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.363)

Did'st not thou hear <font> Nelthorp's </font> Name named in the Room ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.364)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell whether
he were called <font> Nelthorp </font> , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.365)

but it was either <font> Crofts </font> or <font> Nelthorp </font> ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.366)

I am sure one of them . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.367)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} be ingenuous ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.368)

and $let $'s {TEXT:let's} have the Truth on't ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.369)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I am ingenuous ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.370)

and will be so . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.371)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I will assure you , <font> Nelthorp </font>
told me all the Story before I came out of Town ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.372)

<font> Dunne . </font> I think , my Lord , he was called <font>
Nelthorp </font> in the Room , and there was some Discourse about him .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.373)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , there was unquestionably ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.374)

and I know thou wert by , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.375)

and that made me the more concern'd to press upon thee the Danger of
forswearing thy self . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.376)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lady ask'd <font> Hicks </font> who that
Gentleman was , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.377)

and he said it was <font> Nelthorp </font> , as I remember .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.378)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Very well , and upon that Discourse with <font>
Nelthorp </font> , which I had in Town , did I give particular
Direction , that the Outlawry of <font> Nelthorp </font> should be
brought down hither , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.379)

for he told me particularly of all the Passages and Discourses of his
being beyond Sea , and coming from beyond Sea :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.380)

I would not mention any such thing as any piece of Evidence to
influence this case , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.381)

but I could not but tremble to think , after what I knew , that any one
should dare so much to prevaricate with God and Man , as to tell such
horrid Lyes in the Face of a Court . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.382)

<font> Dunne . </font> What does your Lordship ask me ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.383)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Come , I will ask thee a plain Question ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.384)

Was there no Discourse there about the Battle , and of their being in
the Army ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.385)

<font> Dunne . </font> There was some such Discourse , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,121C2.386)

<P_IV,122C1>

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} now tell us
what that Discourse was ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.388)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , I will tell you when I have
re-collected it , if you will give me time till to-morrow Morning .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.389)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nay , but we $can $not {TEXT:cannot} stay so
long , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.390)

our Business must be dispatched now ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.391)

but I would have all People consider what a Reason there is , that they
should be pressed to join with me in hearty Prayers to Almighty God ,
that this Sin of Lying and Perjury may never be laid at thy door .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.392)

What say'st thou ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.393)

$Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} tell us what the Discourse was ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.394)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , they did talk of Fighting ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.395)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} exactly tell what the Discourse was ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.396)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And thou said'st thou did'st eat and drink with
them in the same Room ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.397)

<font> Dunne . </font> I did so , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.398)

I confess it . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.399)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And it was not a little Girl that lighted thee
to Bed , or conducted thee in ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.400)

<font> Dunne . </font> It was not a little Girl .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.401)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Who was it then ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.402)

<font> Dunne . </font> It was Mr. <font> Carpenter </font> , my Lord .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.403)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And why did'st thou tell so many Lyes then ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.404)

Jesu God ! (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.405)

that we should live to see any such Creatures among Mankind , nay , and
among us too , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.406)

to the Shame and Reproach be it spoken of our Nation and Religion :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.407)

Is this that that is called the Protestant Religion , a thing so much
boasted of , and pretended to ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.408)

We have heard a great deal of Clamour against Popery and Dispensations
, (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.409)

what Dispensations pray does the Protestant Religion give for such
Practices as these ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.410)

I pity thee with all my Soul , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.411)

and pray for thee , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.412)

but it $can $not {TEXT:cannot} but make all Mankind to tremble and be
filled with Horror , that such a wretched Creature should live upon the
Earth : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.413)

$Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} be free , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.414)

and tell us what Discourse there was ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.415)

<font> Dunne . </font> My Lord , they did talk of Fighting ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.416)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} remember what it was .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.417)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you lie with them ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.418)

<font> Dunne . </font> No , my Lord , I did not .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.419)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , I see thou wilt answer nothing
ingenuously , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.420)

therefore I will trouble my self no more with thee :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.421)

Go on with your Evidence , Gentlemen . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.422)

Mr. <font> Jennings . </font> My Lord , we have done ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.423)

we have no more Witnesses . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.424)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then you that are for the Prisoner at the Bar ,
now is your time to make your Defence ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.425)

you hear what is charged upon you , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.426)

and you see what a kind of Shuffling here has been to stifle the Truth
, (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.427)

and I am sorry to find the Occasion to speak it , that under the Figure
and Form of Religion such Practices should be carried on .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.428)

What have you to say for your self ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.429)

<font> Lisle . </font> My Lord , that which I have to say to it , is
this : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.430)

I knew of no body's coming to my House but Mr. <font> Hicks </font> ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.431)

and for him I was inform'd that he did abscond , by reason of Warrants
that were out against him for preaching in private Meetings ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.432)

but I never heard that he was in the Army , nor that <font> Nelthorp
</font> was to come with him ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.433)

and for that Reason it was , that I sent to him to come by night :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.434)

but for the other Man <font> Nelthorp </font> , I never knew he was
<font> Nelthorp </font> , I could die upon it ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.435)

nor did not know what Name he had , till after he came into my House ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.436)

but as for Mr. <font> Hicks </font> , I did not in the least suspect
him to have been in the Army , being a Presbyterian Minister , that
used to preach , and not to fight . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C1.437)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But I will tell you , there is not one of those
lying , sniveling , canting , Presbyterian Rascals , but one way or
other had a hand in the late <P_IV,122C2> horrid Conspiracy and
Rebellion ; upon my Conscience I believe it , and would have been as
deep in the actual Rebellion , had it had any little Success , as that
other Fellow <font> Hicks </font> ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.438)

their Principles carry them to it : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.439)

Presbytery has all manner of Villainy in it , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.440)

nothing but Presbytery could lead that Fellow <font> Dunne </font> to
tell so many Lyes as he has here told ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.441)

for shew me a Presbyterian , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.442)

and I will engage to shew a lying Knave . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.443)

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , I abhorred both the Principles and
Practices of the late Rebellion . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.444)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I am sure you had great reason for it .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.445)

<font> Lisle . </font Besides , my Lord , I should have been the most
ungrateful Person living , should I have been disloyal , or acted any
thing against the present King , considering how much I was obliged to
him for my Estate . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.446)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Oh then ! (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.447)

Ungrateful , ungrateful adds to the Load which is between Man and Man ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.448)

and is the basest Crime that any one can be guilty of .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.449)

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , had I been try'd in <font> London
</font> , I could have had my Lady <font> Abergavenny </font> , and
several other Persons of Quality , that could have testified how much I
was against this Rebellion , and with what Detestation I spoke against
it , during the time of it ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.450)

for I was all that time at <font> London </font> ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.451)

and staid there till after the Duke of <font> Monmouth </font> was
beheaded ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.452)

and if I had certainly known the time of my Trial in the Country , I
could have had the Testimony of those Persons of Honour for me .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.453)

But , my Lord , I am told , and so I thought it would have been , that
I should not have been try'd as a Traitor for harbouring him , till he
was Convict for a Traitor . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.454)

My Lord , I would take my Death of it , that I never knew of <font>
Nelthorp's </font> coming , nor any thing of his being <font> Nelthorp
</font> ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.455)

I never ask'd his Name , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.456)

and if he had told it me , I had then remember'd the Proclamation .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.457)

I do assure you , my Lord , for my own part , I did abhor those that
were in that horrid Plot and Conspiracy against the King's Life ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.458)

I know my Duty to my King better , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.459)

and have always exercised it , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.460)

I defy any body in the world that ever knew the contrary , to come and
give Testimony . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.461)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you any more to say ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.462)

<font> Lisle . </font As to what they say of my denying <font> Nelthorp
</font> to be in my House , I was in great Consternation and Fear of
the Soldiers , who were very rude and violent , and could not be
restrained by their Officers from Robbery , and plundering my House .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.463)

And I beseech your Lordship to make that Construction of it ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.464)

and I humbly beg of your Lordship not to harbour an ill Opinion of me ,
because of those false Reports that go about of me , relating to my
Carriage towards the old King , that I was any ways consenting to the
Death of King <font> Charles </font> I. (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.465)

for , my Lord , that is as false as God is true ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.466)

my Lord , I was not out of my Chamber all the day , in which that King
was beheaded , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.467)

and I believe I shed more Tears for him , than any Woman then living
did ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.468)

and this the late Countess of <font> Monmouth </font> , and my Lady
<font> Marlborough </font> , and my Lord Chancellor <font> Hyde </font>
, if they were alive , and twenty Persons of the most eminent Quality ,
could bear witness for me . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.469)

And I do repeat it , my Lord , as I hope to attain Salvation , I never
did know <font> Nelthrop </font> , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.470)

nor never did see him before in my Life , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.471)

nor did I know of any body's coming , but Mr. <font> Hicks </font> ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.472)

and him I did know to be a Nonconformist Minister ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.473)

and there being , as is well known , Warrants out to apprehend all
Nonconformist Ministers , I was willing to give him shelter from these
Warrants . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,122C2.474)

I <P_IV,123C1> was come down but that Week into the Country , when this
Man came to me from Mr. <font> Hicks </font> , to know if he might be
receiv'd at my House ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.475)

and I told him , if Mr. <font> Hicks </font> pleas'd , he might come
upon <font> Tuesday </font> in the Evening , and should be welcome ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.476)

but withal I told him , I must go away the <font> Monday </font>
following from that place , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.477)

but while I staid I would entertain him . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.478)

And I beseech your Lordship to believe , I had no intention to harbour
him but as a Nonconformist , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.479)

and that I knew was no Treason : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.480)

It $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be imagined , that I would venture the
hazard of my own Life , and the Ruin both-3 of myself and Children , to
conceal one that I never knew in my Life , as I did not know Mr. <font>
Nelthorp </font> , but had heard of him in the Proclamation .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.481)

And for that white-headed Man that speaks of my denying them , as I
said before , he was one of them that rifled and plunder'd my House ,
and tore open my Trunk ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.482)

and if I should not be convicted , he and the rest of them may be
call'd to account for what they did , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.483)

for they ought not to have meddled with my Goods :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.484)

Besides , my Lord , I have a Witness that can testify what Mr. <font>
Nelthorp </font> said , when he was examined before -
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.485)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Look you , Mrs. <font> Lisle </font> , that
will signify little ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.486)

but if you have any Witnesses , call them , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.487)

we will hear what they say : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.488)

Who is that Man you speak of ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.489)

<font> Lisle . </font <font> George Creed </font> his Name is ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.490)

there he is . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.491)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , what do you know ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.492)

<font> Creed . </font> I heard <font> Nelthorp </font> say , that my
Lady <font> Lisle </font> did not know of his coming , nor did not know
his Name ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.493)

nor had he ever told his name , till he named himself to Col. <font>
Penruddock </font> when he was taken . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.494)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , this is nothing ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.495)

she is not indicted for harbouring <font> Nelthorp </font> , but <font>
Hicks </font> : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.496)

Have you any more Witnesses ? (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.497)

<font> Lisle . </font No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.498)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you any more to say for yourself ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.499)

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , I came but five days before this into
the Country - (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.500)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Nay , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell when you
came into the Country , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.501)

nor I do not care ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.502)

it seems you came time enough to harbour Rebels .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.503)

<font> Lisle . </font I staid in <font> London </font> till all the
Rebellion was past and over ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.504)

and I never uttered a good Word for the Rebels ,
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.505)

nor ever harbour'd so much as a good Wish for them in my Mind :
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.506)

I know the King is my Sovereign , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.507)

and I know my Duty to him , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.508)

and if I would have ventured my Life for any thing , it should have
been to serve him , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.509)

I know it is his due , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.510)

and I owed all I had in the World to him : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.511)

But tho' I could not fight for him my self , my Son did ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.512)

he was actually in Arms on the King's side in this Business ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.513)

I instructed him always in Loyalty , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.514)

and sent him thither ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.515)

it was I that bred him up to fight for the King .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.516)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , have you done ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.517)

<font> Lisle . </font Yes , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.518)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you a mind to say any thing more ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.519)

<font> Lisle . </font No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.520)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Then command Silence .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.521)

<font> Which was done by Proclamation . </font>
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.522)

<font> Lisle . </font My Lord , may I speak one word more ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.523)

My Lord , I beseech you afford me your Patience and your Advice ;
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.524)

<font> Keinsham </font> , where Mr. <font> Hicks </font> is said to be
in Arms , does not lie in this County . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C1.525)

<P_IV,123C2>

<font> L. C. J. </font> That is nothing : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.527)

But the Treason you committed was in this County .
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.528)

<font> Lisle . </font But I assure your Lordship I never knew he was in
the Army ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.529)

and for any Talk or Discourse in private about his or <font> Nelthorp's
</font> being there , I never heard any : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.530)

indeed one of them asked me , whether the Duke of <font> Monmouth
</font> was beheaded ; (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.531)

and I told them , yes , (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.532)

for so he was before I came out of Town : (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.533)

And that is all the Discourse that I can remember , wherein he is
concerned . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.534)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , have you any more to say now ?
(LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.535)

<font> Lisle . </font No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-H,IV,123C2.536)

