<P_4,71>

Whereas , in truth , the said <font> William Ireland </font> did not
take his leave of him the said <font> Titus Oates </font> , or of any
other Person whatsoever , at his the said <font> William Ireland
</font> 's Chamber , then being in <font> Russel-street </font>
aforesaid , between the said 8 <font> th </font> and 12 <font> th
</font> Day of <font> August </font> , in the Year of our Lord 1678 .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.2)

And so the said <font> Titus Oates </font> did then and there commit
willful and corrupt Perjury . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.3)

And this is laid to be to the great Displeasure of <font> Almighty God
</font> , in contempt of the Laws of this Land , to the evil and
pernicious Example of all others in the like Case offending , and
against the King's Peace , Crown and Dignity . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.4)

To this he has pleaded , <font> Not Guilty </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.5)

If we prove it , we do not question , (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.6)

but you will find him <font> Guilty </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.7)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> May it please your Lordship , and you
Gentlemen of the Jury ; Mr. <font> Oates </font> stands indicted for
having perjured himself ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.8)

The Instances Gentlemen , that we charge him with , are these :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.9)

First , What he swore at the Trial of <font> Ireland </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.10)

and we say , that at that Trial he did swear <font> Ireland </font> was
in Town the 1st or 2d of <font> September </font> , 1678 .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.11)

The second Instance is , what he swore at the Trial of the five Jesuits
: (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.12)

and there we say , he did swear , that <font> Ireland </font> was in
Town between the 8 <font> th </font> and 12 <font> th </font> of <font>
August </font> , and that he took his leave of him here in Town at his
Chamber in <font> Russel-street </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.13)

and we do charge him by this Indictment , that he has forsworn himself
in both Instances : And that <font> Ireland </font> , Gentlemen , was
neither-1 in Town between the 8 <font> th </font> and 12 <font> th
</font> of <font> August </font> , nor the 1 <font> st </font> or 2
<font> d </font> of <font> September </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.14)

And we shall make it out very evidently : (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.15)

For , Gentlemen , as to the Proof in this Case , our Case stands thus :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.16)

we say , that the 3 <font> d </font> of <font> August </font> , 1678 ,
<font> Ireland </font> went into <font> Hertfordshire </font> , to a
House of my Lord <font> Aston's </font> , and from then went into
<font> Staffordshire </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.17)

I will not stand to open the Particulars where he was every Day ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.18)

but we shall give you an Account , in a Method very easy to be
remembered and observed , where he was till the 14 <font> th </font> of
<font> September </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.19)

But one remarkable Instance , Gentlemen , I desire to take particular
notice of ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.20)

and that is , the Time of <font> Pancras </font> Fair , which is upon
the 2 <font> d </font> of <font> September </font> always , a known Day
, and a known Place in that Country . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.21)

Now we have among the rest , many Witnesses to prove , that Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> was there that Day , and not in Town .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.22)

And when we have proved this , as we shall by a whole Cloud of
Witnesses , I believe , you Gentlemen of this Jury , will no more doubt
that Mr. <font> Oates </font> is forsworn in these Particulars , than
the Jury yesterday did in that Particular ; nor than , I believe , the
whole Kingdom does by this time . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.23)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> My Lord , we shall go to our Evidence ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.24)

and first , we produce the Records of the two Trials of <font> Ireland
</font> , the five Jesuits . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.25)

Swear Mr. <font> Swift </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.26)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.27)

Pray , Sir , put in the Records . Are those true Copies ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.28)

Mr. <font> Swift </font> . My Lord , I examined these Records with the
Originals , (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.29)

and they are true Copies {COM:sic_punctuation} ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.30)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Mr. <font> Oates </font> , will you have
them read ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.31)

Or to save the time of the Court , will you agree them ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.32)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I consent to save the time of the
Court ; if they shall be made use of for Evidence for me .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.33)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No doubt they are Evidence for you as well as
against you , when they are produced here . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.34)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> If Mr. <font> Oates </font> does admit the
Records then shall we go on , and prove what he did swear at those
Trials ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.35)

and for the first part of the time , which is between the 8 <font> th
</font> and 12 <font> th </font> of <font> August </font> , 1678 , we
desire that Mr. <font> Thomas Harriot </font> , and Mr. <font>
Rainsford Waterhouse </font> may be sworn . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.36)

<bracket> <font> Which was done </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.37)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Mr. <font> Harriot </font> , pray , do you
remember at the Trial of the five Jesuits , was Mr. <font> Oates
</font> produced and sworn as a Witness ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.38)

Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . Yes , he was , My Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.39)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Do you remember what Testimony he gave
about <font> Ireland </font> 's being in Town , and when it was , he
said , he was in Town ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.40)

Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . My Lord , he did positively swear , that
Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , the late Jesuit , did take his leave of
him , the said <font> Oates </font> and others , at the said <font>
Ireland </font> 's Chamber in <font> Russel-street </font> , betwixt
the 8 <font> th </font> and 12 <font> th </font> of <font> August
</font> , 1678 . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.41)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Were you of the Jury that tried the five
Jesuits , Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.42)

Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . Yes , I was Foreman of that Jury .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.43)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> What say you , Mr. <font> Waterhouse ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.44)

Were you present at the Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.45)

Mr. <font> Waterhouse </font> . Yes , I was of the Jury too .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.46)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> What did <font> Oates </font> swear at
that Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.47)

Mr. <font> Waterhouse </font> . He said , that Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> took his leave of him the 12 <font> th </font> of <font> August
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.48)

My Lord Chief Justice <font> Scroggs </font> then asked him , are you
sure it was the 12 <font> th ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.49)

And then he said , he would not be positive it was the 12 <font> th
</font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.50)

but between the 8 <font> th </font> and the 12 <font> th </font> it was
, (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.51)

I am positive upon my Oath . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.52)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> It is so in the Print too ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.53)

but we will now go on . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.54)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But will the Defendant ask these Witnesses any
Questions ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.55)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , if your Lordship please , I will ask
Mr. <font> Harriot </font> a Question . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.56)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , do ask him what you will .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.57)

<font> Oates </font> . Mr. <font> Harriot </font> , did I swear , that
he took his leave of me , or I took my leave of him ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,71.58)

--- Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . You swore , that <font> Ireland
</font> took his leave of you and others , between the 8 <font> th
</font> and 12 <font> th </font> of <font> August </font> , 1678 ;
between those two Days , and in that Year . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.59)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . It is a nice Question that of your's
, Mr. <font> Oates </font> , upon my Word . (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.60)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I know what reason I have to ask that
Question ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,71.61)

I am <P_4,72> sure in Perjury , the Court ought to keep up the
Witnesses strictly to what is laid in the Indictment .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.62)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , you have his Answer according to the
Indictment . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.63)

<font> Oates </font> . Pray , my Lord , be pleased to ask Mr. <font>
Harriot </font> this Question , Whether he took Notes of the Trial ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.64)

--- Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . Yes , I did so , Sir .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.65)

<font> Oates </font> , My Lord , I desire to know of Mr. <font> Harriot
</font> , Whether he has those Notes by him ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.66)

Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . No , Sir , I have them not here ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.67)

but I have had them by me this four or five Years , or more .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.68)

It was my manner in all the Trials , wherein I was concerned as a
Jury-Man , to read the Trials strictly over , when they were printed ,
especially where I happened to have any Notes that I took at the Trial
, and to compare the printed Trial with my Notes ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.69)

and where I found anything doubtful , I used to put a Query upon it .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.70)

And this and many other things , I found to be in the printed Trials
strictly according to my Notes . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.71)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I desire to know , what Trial he was
Foreman at ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.72)

Mr. <font> Harriot </font> . That of the five <font> Jesuits </font> ,
in <font> June </font> ; the 13 <font> th </font> of <font> June
</font> , 1679 . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.73)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Have you any thing to ask Mr. <font> Waterhouse
? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.74)

<font> Oates </font> . Yes , my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.75)

Pray , Sir , let me ask you a Question . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.76)

Mr. <font> Waterhouse </font> . Ay , if you please , Sir .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.77)

<font> Oates </font> . Did you take Notes of that Trial you speak of ,
Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.78)

Mr. <font> Waterhouse </font> . No , I did not . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.79)

<font> Oates </font> . How come you there to remember this , that I was
so positive as to the time betwixt the 8 <font> th </font> and 12
<font> th </font> of <font> August ? </font> Mr. <font> Waterhouse
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.80)

Because I was one of the Jury ; and because my Lord Chief Justice made
a stop , when you said , $'t $was {TEXT:'twas} the 12 <font> th </font>
of <font> August </font> , and bad you consider : (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.81)

And you consider'd , and consider'd it (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.82)

and did affirm positively , that it was between the 8 <font> th </font>
and 12 <font> th </font> of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.83)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He gives you a plain Reason for his Remembrance
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.84)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I have done with him .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.85)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Then we desire Mr. <font> Foster </font>
may be sworn . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.86)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.87)

Mr. <font> Foster </font> , Pray will you tell what you remember Mr.
<font> Oates </font> swore at Mr. <font> Ireland </font> 's Trial ,
about <font> Ireland </font> 's being in Town ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.88)

Mr. <font> Foster </font> . I was one of the Jury at the Trial of Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> , Mr. <font> Pickering </font> , and Mr. <font>
Grove </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.89)

and I did see Mr. <font> Oates </font> sworn , as a Witness for the
King , at that Trial ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.90)

and so was Mr. <font> Bedloe : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.91)

And <font> Bedloe </font> there gave Evidence , that there was a
Meeting at <font> Harcourt </font> 's Chamber ; and <font> Ireland
</font> , <font> Grove </font> , and <font> Pickering </font> were
there : And that this was the latter End of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.92)

Mr. <font> Ireland </font> did make his Defence , as much as he could ,
to prove , that he was not in Town from the Beginning of <font> August
</font> to the Middle of <font> September </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.93)

and brought divers Witnesses . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.94)

But upon his denying to be here the latter End of <font> August </font>
, Mr. <font> Oates </font> did come and swear : (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.95)

<font> I am certain </font> <paren> says he </paren> <font> that the
first and second of </font> September <font> he was in Town </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.96)

<font> for then I had of him Twenty Shillings </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.97)

<font> Oates </font> . Was I positive , that he was here in Town the
1st or 2d of <font> September ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.98)

--- Mr. <font> Foster </font> . You were positive , Sir , to the 1st or
2d ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.99)

I have it in my Notes in Writing . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.100)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He tells you , it is in his Notes :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.101)

And therefore $he $'s {TEXT:he's} sure you said so .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.102)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> In the printed Copy , if it be right ,
there is mention made of the Word <font> Positive </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.103)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I think , that is in <font> August </font> ,
between the 8th or 12th , he was positive . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.104)

<font> Oates </font> . Did I say these Words , <font> I was positive ?
</font> --- Mr. <font> Waterhouse </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.105)

I say , you affirmed that he was in Town the 1st or 2d of <font>
September </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.106)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It is not necessary , that you should use the
Word <font> Positive : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.107)

The Question is , Whether it was positively affirmed ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.108)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . Was not that true that you said ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.109)

Did not you affirm a positive Truth ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.110)

--- <font> Oates </font> . My Lord , $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} tell you the
Reason why I ask the Question , because I have forgot myself , whether
I used the Word or no ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.111)

and therefore I ask for my own Information now . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.112)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , ask for what Reason you will ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.113)

you have received an Answer to your Question ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.114)

and upon my Word he gives a notable Evidence : (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.115)

Says he , <font> Bedloe </font> had sworn a treasonable Practice by
<font> Ireland </font> , in the latter end of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.116)

Then <font> Ireland </font> comes , (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.117)

and make {COM:sic} his Defence : (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.118)

Says he , <font> That $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.119)

<font> for I was out of Town at that time </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.120)

<font> I was not in </font> London <font> all </font> August , <font>
nor the beginning of September </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.121)

Then come you in to support the Testimony of <font> Bedloe </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.122)

and swear , that he was in Town the 1st or 2d of <font> September
</font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.123)

for then he gave you twenty Shillings . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.124)

And so you come to rivet the Matter that was sworn before by <font>
Bedloe </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.125)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , what I swore was Truth .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.126)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That is now to be tried .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.127)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> We have another of the Jury here , Mr.
<font> John Byfield : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.128)

Pray , swear him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.129)

<bracket> <font> Which was done </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.130)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Well , Sir , what did you hear <font>
Oates </font> swear at that Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.131)

Mr. <font> Byfield </font> . I heard the same that they have testified
before . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.132)

<font> L. C. J. </font> But you must tell us what that was .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.133)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Were you a Jury-man at that Trial ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.134)

Mr. <font> Byfield </font> . Yes , I had a Summons to the <font>
Old-Bailey </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.135)

--- <font> L. C. J. </font> But what did <font> Oates </font> swear ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.136)

$That $'s {TEXT:That's} the Question . (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.137)

Mr. <font> Byfield </font> . Mr. <font> Oates </font> did positively
assert , that <font> Ireland </font> was here in Town the 1st or 2d of
<font> September </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,72.138)

and to confirm it , he said , he received of him twenty Shillings .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,72.139)

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<P_4,76>

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . Well , what do you ask this
Gentleman , Mr. <font> Attorney ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.142)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> We desire Sir <font> Edward Southcoat
</font> would give an account , whether he met Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> at my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's ? And when ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.143)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . I was with my Lord <font> Aston
</font> in his Company . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.144)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When was that , Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.145)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The 4th of <font> August </font> I
saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font> at my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.146)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was it the same <font> Ireland </font> that was
afterwards tried and executed ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.147)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . It was the same <font> Ireland
</font> that was commonly reported : (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.148)

I did not see him executed . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.149)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Was it the same that was reputed to be
this old Gentlewoman's Son ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.150)

--- Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , it was .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.151)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray , Sir , go on with your Evidence .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.152)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Upon <font> Monday </font> we began
our Journey to <font> Tixhall </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.153)

and went that Night to <font> St. Albans </font> , where we met my
Father and Mother , (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.154)

and thence we continued on our Journey the next Day .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.155)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was he with you there that Day you went to
<font> St. Albans ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.156)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . He was with us ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.157)

I remember very particularly . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.158)

It was hot Weather , (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.159)

and my Lord <font> Aston </font> invited him into the Coach ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.160)

for before he was riding by the Coach-side , (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.161)

and there I remember a particular Discourse that he and my Lord <font>
Aston </font> had ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.162)

from thence we went onto <font> Northampton </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.163)

and came there <font> Tuesday </font> Night . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.164)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was <font> Ireland </font> with you there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.165)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . <font> Ireland </font> was with us
there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.166)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I did not well observe what this
Gentleman said . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.167)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray mind your Business yourself ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.168)

he speaks plain enough ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.169)

go on , Sir . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.170)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was with
us , I say , my Lord , all the Journey ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.171)

and I do remember it particularly by a pretty Horse Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> rode upon ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.172)

and I had a Dispute with my Cousin , who should buy him :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.173)

I took particular notice every Day of him , as he rode by the Coach ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.174)

and conversed with him every Night in the Inn . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.175)

We went , I say , from <font> St. Albans </font> to <font> Northampton
</font> on the <font> Tuesday </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.176)

from <font> Northampton </font> we went to <font> Coventry </font> on
the <font> Wednesday </font> , and from thence to my Lord <font> Aston
</font> 's , at <font> Tixhall </font> , on the <font> Thursday </font>
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.177)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Come , let us go by degrees .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.178)

Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> with you , when you went from my Lord
<font> Aston </font> 's at <font> Standen </font> to <font> St. Albans
? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.179)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , he was .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.180)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You say it was a hot Day when you set out ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.181)

and my Lord <font> Aston </font> did invite him into the Coach .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.182)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord , he came into the
Coach on <font> Monday </font> , which was the first Day we set out ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.183)

and came that Night to <font> St. Albans </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.184)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You lay there that Night ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.185)

--- Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.186)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where did you lie there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.187)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . At the great Inn , at the <font>
Bull </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.188)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , that is the great Inn .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.189)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The next Night , my Lord , we came
to <font> Northampton </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.190)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where did you lie there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.191)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . We lay at the Sign of the <font>
George </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.192)

it was Sir <font> William Farmer </font> 's House , but made use of for
an Inn , because the Town was burnt down . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.193)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> with you all
that Day ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.194)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . He rode with us all the Day .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.195)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And you took notice of it , because of his
Horse , you say ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.196)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , he had a very pretty Horse ,
my Lord ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.197)

and my Brother bought the Horse of him after we came back again .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.198)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Whither went ye the next Day ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.199)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The next Night we lay at the <font>
Bull </font> in <font> Coventry </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.200)

and from then on <font> Thursday </font> , we arrived at my Lord <font>
Aston </font> 's at <font> Tixhall </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.201)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> My Lord , the Jury desires to know what he
says ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.202)

For they have not heard it . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.203)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He says , Mr. <font> Ireland </font> went with
my Lord <font> Aston </font> in the Coach , it being a hot Day , on
<font> Monday </font> the 5 <font> th </font> of <font> August </font>
, from <font> Standen </font> , my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's House
in <font> Hertfordshire </font> , to <font> St. Albans </font> , and
lay there at the <font> Bull </font> Inn that Night ; That he went the
next Day , which was <font> Tuesday </font> , the 6 <font> th </font>
of <font> August </font> , with them to <font> Northampton </font> ;
That he rode upon a pretty Horse , which makes him remember it
particularly , and that there was Dispute on the Road , who should buy
him ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.204)

and when they came back , his Brother bought him .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.205)

He says , they lay on <font> Tuesday </font> Night at <font>
Northampton </font> , at the <font> George </font> , which was a
Gentleman's House , which was turned into an Inn , because of the Fire
: That he went with them the next Day to <font> Coventry </font> ,
which was <font> Wednesday </font> the 7 <font> th </font> of <font>
August </font> , and lay with them that Night at the <font> Bull
</font> in <font> Coventry </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.206)

and the next Day , which was <font> Thursday </font> the 8 <font> th
</font> , they came , and <font> Ireland </font> with them , to my Lord
<font> Aston </font> 's House at Tixhall , in <font> Staffordshire
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.207)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Pray Sir <font> Edward Southcoat </font> ,
how long did he stay with you at Tixhall , at my Lord <font> Aston
</font> 's <font> ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.208)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . He staid with us there till the
<font> Tuesday </font> after ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.209)

and then we began our Journey from my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's
House , in <font> Tixhall </font> , into <font> Wales </font> , to
<font> St. Winifred </font> 's Well . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.210)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That is <font> Holy-Well </font> , you mean .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.211)

--- Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.212)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You say he staid all <font> Friday </font> ,
<font> Saturday </font> , <font> Sunday </font> , <font> Monday </font>
, and till <font> Tuesday </font> , after you came to my Lord <font>
Aston </font> 's at <font> Tixhall ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.213)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord , he did so .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.214)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> So then , my Lord , we are gotten to
<font> Tuesday </font> the 13th of <font> August </font> , which is
past the time of the Perjury that is laid second in the Indictment ;
but in point of Time , is the first that happened ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.215)

for he swore that <font> Ireland </font> took his leave of him , and
others here in Town , between the 8 <font> th </font> and 12 <font> th
</font> of <font> August ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.216)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Where did you go on <font> Tuesday </font>
, Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.217)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Towards <font> Wales </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.218)

Mr. <font> Jones </font> . Was he at <font> Tixhall </font> the 12
<font> th </font> of <font> August ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.219)

<font> L. C. J. </font> He says , he was till <font> Tuesday </font>
the 13 <font> th </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.220)

Pray let us not have the same Questions repeated over and over again .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.221)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Where did you go on <font> Tuesday </font>
Night ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.222)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . We went to <font> Nantwich </font>
, (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.223)

and lay at the <font> Holy-Lamb </font> there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.224)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where were you the next Night ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.225)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The next Day we reached to St.
<font> Winifred </font> 's Well . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.226)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Where did you lie there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,76.227)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . At the <font> Star </font> , which
is the great Inn there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.228)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It is so . (OATES-E3-P1,4,76.229)

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<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> there with
you ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.231)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , he was .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.232)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Whither did ye go then ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.233)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . We staid not but one Day at <font>
Holy-Well </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.234)

for we arrived there pretty late at Night , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.235)

and the Morning we spent there , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.236)

and went away in the Afternoon , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.237)

and came that Evening to <font> Chester </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.238)

and lay there only one Night , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.239)

and came the next Day to <font> Tixhall </font> again .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.240)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Which was <font> Friday </font> the 16th
{COM:sic_no_font_change} of <font> August </font>
{COM:sic_no_question_mark} . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.241)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , My Lord , be pleased to ask him ,
Whether this Gentleman , Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , was with them all
the while , in the Journey to <font> Holy-Well ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.242)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Every Day particularly ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.243)

I remember it very perfectly . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.244)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> After he came to <font> Tixhall </font>
again , how long did he tarry there ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.245)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . That I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} so
well say . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.246)

I do remember truly , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.247)

but he was afterwards at my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's at <font>
Tixhall </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.248)

I remember some scambling Days ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.249)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} fix upon only two .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.250)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Which are they ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.251)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what
Day of the Month it was , or what Day of the Week ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.252)

but one Day that I remember him there , was Mr. <font> Chetwind </font>
's Race with Sir <font> Henry Gough </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.253)

and one other Day . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.254)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When was that Horse-Race ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.255)

--- Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . My Lord , I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} tell what Day of the Month it was .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.256)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> When was the other time you speak of ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.257)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . I remember him there one <font>
Thursday </font> upon the <font> Bowling-Green </font> at <font>
Tixhall </font> , where there was a particular Company .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.258)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> My Lord , we desire to know , when his
Brother did buy the Horse of Mr. <font> Ireland ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.259)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . When we came back ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.260)

for he came home with us from my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.261)

and we began our Journey , the 9 <font> th </font> or <font> th </font>
of <font> September </font> , from <font> Tixhall </font> to <font>
Kingston </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.262)

and when we arriv'd at my Father's House , my Brother bought the Horse
of him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.263)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you come home back again with Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> , so you say ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.264)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord , we did .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.265)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did you set out from <font> Tixhall ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.266)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The ninth of <font> September
</font> , my Lord , I think it was ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.267)

I am sure it was upon a <font> Monday </font> , the 9 <font> th </font>
or <font> th </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.268)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did you come home ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.269)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . We were four Days on our Journey .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.270)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And did you come straight to <font> London ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.271)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . No , we went to my Father's House
in <font> Surrey </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.272)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Which way did you come ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.273)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . The first Night we came to the
<font> Bull </font> in <font> Coventry </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.274)

and from thence , the next Night , we went to the <font> Altar-Stone
</font> at <font> Banbury </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.275)

and from <font> Banbury </font> , we came the third Day to <font>
Agmondesham </font> <paren> I think it is called </paren> a little Town
in <font> Buckinghamshire </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.276)

and from thence the fourth Day , to my Father's House , by <font>
Kingston </font> in <font> Surrey </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.277)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> And then <font> Ireland </font> sold his
Brother his Horse . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.278)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long was he at your Father's House in
<font> Surrey </font> , Sir <font> Edward ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.279)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . My Lord , we came on the <font>
Thursday </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.280)

and as I take it , he went on the <font> Saturday </font> to <font>
London </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.281)

My Brother , after he had bought his Horse , lent him the Horse to Town
; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.282)

and sent a Man with him to bring it back again . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.283)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> That <font> Saturday </font> , my Lord ,
makes it come just to the Fourteenth of <font> September </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.284)

and is the very Day Fortnight before <font> Michaelmas-Day </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.285)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I desire to ask this Gentleman ,
whether he saw <font> Ireland </font> all <font> August </font> , and
till the Fourteenth of <font> September </font> in <font> Staffordshire
</font> , and elsewhere ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.286)

And how long in <font> Staffordshire ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.287)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} say as to
any particular Days of the Month , after our coming from <font>
Holy-Well </font> , till our coming from <font> Tixhall </font> to
<font> London </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.288)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Marry , if he did , he would contradict what he
had said before : (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.289)

For , from the time of coming from <font> Holy-Well </font> , till the
time of coming back to <font> London </font> , he could tell but of two
Days , and those uncertain : (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.290)

For he remembers not by the Times , but by other particular
Circumstances . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.291)

<font> Oates </font> . Pray , my Lord , be pleased to ask him this
Question , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.292)

When was the first Day he saw him in <font> September ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.293)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Truly , my Lord , I remember not
any Day before we began our Journey home . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.294)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> But , my Lord , this is his Testimony :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.295)

He was in his Company till the sixteenth of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.296)

It is true , there were other times that he saw him at <font> Tixhall
</font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.297)

but he $can $not {TEXT:cannot} particularly speak unto them :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.298)

But , by and by , we shall go on to every Day , and prove particularly
where he was . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.299)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I desire to know , Was Sir <font> Edw.
Southcoat </font> at the Trial of <font> Ireland </font> a Witness , or
no ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.300)

--- Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . No , I was not , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.301)

<font> Oates </font> . Were you at <font> Whitebread </font> 's Trial ,
Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.302)

Sir <font> Edw. Southcoat </font> . Yes , I was ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.303)

and gave the same Evidence I give now . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.304)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Then swear Mr. <font> John Southcoat
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.305)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.306)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> This is Sir <font> Edward Southcoat
</font> 's Brother , my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.307)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What , he that bought the Horse ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.308)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord , I bought the Horse
of Mr. <font> Ireland </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.309)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Well , what do you ask him ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.310)

--- <font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Pray , Sir , When did you meet Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> in <font> August </font> 1678 ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.311)

And where ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.312)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . My Lord , I met with Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> , upon <font> Monday </font> the Fifth of <font> August
</font> , at the <font> Bull </font> -Inn in <font> St. Albans </font>
, with my Lord <font> Aston : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.313)

I came thither that day with my Father and Mother .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.314)

And the next Day we went to <font> Northampton </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.315)

and there we inn'd at the Sign of the <font> George </font> , Sir
<font> William Farmer </font> 's House , which is an House in the Road
, us'd for an Inn since the Town was burnt : (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.316)

And I conversed with him every day , in our Journey .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.317)

And from thence , the next day , we went to <font> Coventry </font> ,
to the <font> Bull </font> -Inn there ; and from thence , to my Lord
<font> Aston </font> 's <paren> on <font> Thursday </font> Night
</paren> at <font> Tixhall : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.318)

There we staid all <font> Friday </font> , <font> Saturday </font> ,
<font> Sunday </font> , and <font> Monday </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.319)

Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was there ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.320)

I was with him all the while . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.321)

And then upon <font> Tuesday </font> we set out for <font> Holy-Well
</font> in <font> Flintshire </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.322)

and went that Night to <font> Nantwich </font> to the <font> Lamb
</font> there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.323)

And the next day we went through <font> Chester </font> to <font>
Holy-Well : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.324)

We staid that Night at <font> Holy-Well </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,77.325)

and the next day came back again towards Noon to <font> Chester </font>
; (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.326)

and there lay that Night : (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.327)

And then the next Night , which was <font> Friday </font> , we came
back again to <font> Tixhall </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,77.328)

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<font> L. C. J. </font> Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> with you both
those Journeys , all the while ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.330)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Yes , my Lord , he was ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.331)

I did see him , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.332)

and rode with him every Day . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.333)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray , Sir , how long were you at <font>
Tixhall </font> , after you came from <font> Holy Well ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.334)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . We staid there till we came away
for good and all . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.335)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> with you all
that time ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.336)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . No , he was not .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.337)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Do you remember , that Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> came to <font> Tixhall </font> the Ninth of <font> September
</font> ; and came along home with you , when you came ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.338)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Yes , I remember it very well .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.339)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Day did you come home , Sir ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.340)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . We came home in four Days .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.341)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> When did he leave you ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.342)

--- Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . We came home upon <font>
Thursday </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.343)

and he went to <font> London </font> on <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.344)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray , Sir , can you recollect when you did
first see him again at <font> Tixhall </font> , after you came from
<font> Holy-Well ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.345)

--- Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . My Lord , I $can $not
{TEXT:cannot} tell particularly any Day , till the Day we came away .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.346)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Do you remember the Horse-Match between Mr.
<font> Chetwind </font> and Sir <font> Henry Gough ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.347)

--- Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . I was there , my Lord ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.348)

but I do not remember Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was there .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.349)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long did he stay at your Father's House in
<font> Surrey </font> , Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.350)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Two Days , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.351)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> You lent him your Horse you bought of him
, I think Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.352)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Yes , up to <font> London </font> ,
I did ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.353)

and I sent my Man with him , to bring him back again .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.354)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Has Mr. <font> Oates </font> any Questions
to ask this Gentleman ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.355)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I desire to ask Mr. <font> Southcoat
</font> , Whether or no he is sure , that <font> Ireland </font> was in
his Company from the fifth of <font> August </font> to the Sixteenth ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.356)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . Yes , every day , I am sure of it ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.357)

I remember it very well . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.358)

<font> Oates </font> . Pray , my Lord , ask him , Whether or no he
testified this that he now swears at <font> Ireland </font> 's Trial ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.359)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . My Lord , I was not at <font>
Ireland </font> 's Trial . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.360)

<font> Oates </font> . Then I desire to ask him , Whether or no he did
testify this at the five Jesuits Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.361)

Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> . No , I was not sent for to any of
the Trials . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.362)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I am sorry you were not , Sir :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.363)

$'T $was {TEXT:'Twas} pity you were not there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.364)

It might have saved some innocent Blood . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.365)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Now swear <font> Harrison </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.366)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.367)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , will you give an Account when you
saw <font> Ireland </font> , and where ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.368)

<font> Harrison </font> . In the Year of our Lord 1678 , my Master ,
Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> , went with my Lady , on <font>
Monday </font> the Fifth of <font> August </font> , to <font> St.
Albans </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.369)

and we came with a Coach and four Horses : (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.370)

For my Master had an old Servant , that had a Pair of Horses , which my
Master made use of . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.371)

And there we met my Lord <font> Aston </font> , in the Company of Mr.
<font> Ireland </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.372)

And the next Morning , my Lord <font> Aston </font> went with my Master
and Lady towards <font> Tixhall : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.373)

And I rode by , in Mr. <font> Ireland </font> 's Company ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.374)

and came $acquainted {TEXT:ac_uainted} with him that Day .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.375)

That Night we came to <font> Northampton </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.376)

and there we inn'd at a Stone-House , that was used for the Inn , the
Town being burnt before . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.377)

The next Night we went to <font> Coventry </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.378)

and on <font> Thursday </font> we came to <font> Tixhall : </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.379)

There we staid till <font> Tuesday </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.380)

After we went to <font> Holy-Well </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.381)

and the <font> Tuesday </font> Night we lay at <font> Nantwich :
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.382)

And thence we went to <font> Holy-Well </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.383)

and staid there on <font> Wednesday </font> Night :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.384)

And on <font> Thursday </font> we came to <font> West-Chester </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.385)

and I parted with him upon the <font> Friday </font> at <font>
West-Chester </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.386)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Pray , did you know this <font> Ireland ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.387)

Was it he that was tried and executed ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.388)

--- <font> Harrison </font> . I was at Mr. <font> Ireland </font> 's
Trial . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.389)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was it the same Man that was tried ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.390)

<font> Harrison </font> . My Lord , I saw him at his Trial ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.391)

the Hair of his Face was grown , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.392)

and he was a little disordered ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.393)

he did not look so well , because he was not so well dress'd ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.394)

but it was the same Man , my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.395)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Before this Man goes , we have more
Questions to ask him : (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.396)

When did you see him again , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.397)

after you left him in <font> Chester </font> , you say ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.398)

<font> Harrison </font> . I saw him several times at <font> Tixhall
</font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.399)

I saw him at the <font> Bowling-green </font> upon <font> Thursday
</font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.400)

and I saw him when the Horse-Race was between Mr. <font> Chetwind
</font> and Sir <font> Henry Gough : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.401)

I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what Day it was ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.402)

for I had no reason to keep an account of the particular Days at that
time . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.403)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Did you come up with your Master again the
9th of <font> September ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.404)

<font> Harrison </font> . My Lord , I did so ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.405)

I have a Note wherein I set down the Charges at that time .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.406)

It is in this bit of Paper , which I have kept in my Almanack ever
since . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.407)

My Lord <font> Aston </font> sent his Coach with us to <font> Banbury
</font> , where my Master's Coach was to meet him ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.408)

but came only to <font> Coventry </font> the first Night .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.409)

The next Night , which was <font> Tuesday </font> , we came to the
<font> Altar-Stone </font> at <font> Banbury </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.410)

and there we lay : (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.411)

From thence , on <font> Wednesday </font> , we came to <font>
Agmondesham </font> , where we were ill lodged . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.412)

The next Day we baited at <font> Uxbridge </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.413)

and came to <font> Kingston </font> , and so to Sir <font> John
Southcoat </font> 's House upon the <font> Thursday </font> Night .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.414)

Upon the <font> Friday </font> Mr. <font> Ireland </font> sold his
Horse to Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> , my Master's Son .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.415)

Upon the <font> Saturday </font> Morning , I came with him from my
Master's House towards <font> London </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.416)

he did ride upon the Horse he had sold to Mr. <font> Southcoat </font>
, (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.417)

and so we came up to Town , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.418)

and took water ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.419)

and I took a little Bag that belonged to Mr. <font> Ireland </font>
upon my Arm , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.420)

and we landed at <font> Somerset-House </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.421)

and I came with him to his Lodging in <font> Russel-Street </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.422)

and when he came there , he went up stairs , where two Women met him ,
and welcom'd him home : (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.423)

Said they , <font> We are glad you are come , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.424)

we thought we had lost you , because we had never heard from you all
this while </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.425)

There I took my leave of him , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.426)

and did not see him again till his Trial at the <font> Old-Bailey
</font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.427)

and this was <font> Saturday </font> the 14th of <font> September
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.428)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Pray let me see your Paper you speak of .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.429)

<bracket> <font> Which was delivered in , (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.430)

and the Court look'd upon it . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.431)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you write this in your Journey ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.432)

<font> Harrison </font> . Yes , my Lord , I did it at that time .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,78.433)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Are the particular Days inserted there ,
my Lord ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.434)

<font> L. C. J. </font> No , they are not , Mr. <font> Attorney </font>
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,78.435)

<P_4,79>

<font> Harrison </font> . I could not write well ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.437)

it was only but <font> Memorandums </font> for myself .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.438)

<font> L. C. J. </font> What Day of the Month was the <font> Saturday
</font> he came to Town ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.439)

<font> Harrison </font> . It was the 14th of <font> September </font> ,
my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.440)

<font> L. C. J. </font> That agrees with all that the Women said , that
he came on <font> Saturday </font> , a Fortnight before <font>
Michaelmas </font> , being the same Day of the Week as <font>
Michaelmas-day </font> was : (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.441)

Thus far it is as clear as the Sun at Noon-day . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.442)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , there was a time when this was not
believed . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.443)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Ay , Mr. <font> Oates </font> , we know there
was a time , when there were <font> Ignoramus </font> Juries , and
things were believed , and not believed , as the Humour went .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.444)

What can you , Mr. <font> Oates </font> , say to it ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.445)

I must needs tell you , <font> prima facie </font> , $'t $is
{TEXT:'tis} so strong an Evidence , that if you have any Sense in the
World you must be concerned at it . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.446)

<font> Oates </font> . Not at all , my Lord , I know who they are , and
what is the end of it all . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.447)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Upon my Faith , I have so much Charity for you
, as my Fellow-Creature , as to be concerned for you .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.448)

<font> Oates </font> . $'T $is {TEXT:'Tis} not two Straws matter
whether you be or no ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.449)

I know my own Innocency . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.450)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Thou art the most obstinately hardened Wretch
that ever I saw . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.451)

<font> Oates </font> . Pray , my Lord , ask him , Whether he did not
appear to Mr. <font> Ireland </font> 's Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.452)

And let it be remember'd what Credit he had then for all this Story he
tells now . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.453)

These People come here to serve a turn only , (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.454)

and care not what they swear against me . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.455)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You must hold your tongue .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.456)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I must speak the Truth ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.457)

and I will speak the Truth . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.458)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I think there is scarce a Word of Truth comes
out of thy Mouth . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.459)

<font> Oates </font> . You may think what you will , my Lord ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.460)

but these Popish Traitors , I am sure will swear any thing , and suborn
Witnesses upon Witnesses against me to overthrow the Plot .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.461)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . If you $can $not {TEXT:cannot}
behave yourself better than you do , we must send you elsewhere ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.462)

we must not suffer this Behaviour : (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.463)

And therefore either be quiet , (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.464)

or get you gone . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.465)

<font> L. $C. $J. {TEXT:L.J.C.} </font> Let him keep himself in order ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.466)

and $we $'ll {TEXT:we'll} hear him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.467)

If he thinks by boisterous Impudency to outface Justice , we will not
suffer it . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.468)

Go on , Mr. <font> Attorney </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.469)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear Mr. <font> George Hobson </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.470)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.471)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Were you in the Journey to <font> Tixhall
</font> with Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , and my Lord <font> Aston
</font> in 78 ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.472)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . Yes , I was so , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.473)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray tell all your Knowledge of the matter
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.474)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . From the 3d of <font> August </font> till
the 15th at Night , I was present with him every Day .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.475)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How do you know you were ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.476)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . That is to say , the 3d of <font> August
</font> he came to my Lord's House at <font> Standen </font> , in
<font> Hertfordshire </font> , in the Evening , (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.477)

and there he remained till <font> Monday </font> the 5th of <font>
August </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.478)

and that Day in the Morning he went , together with other Company to
St. Albans , where we met Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> and his
Lady towards the Evening ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.479)

and we all lodged there , because that was the appointed Place to meet
at : (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.480)

We lodged the 6th of <font> August </font> at Night at <font>
Northampton </font> ; upon the 7th at <font> Coventry </font> ; upon
the 8th at <font> Tixhall </font> , my Lord's House , where Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> remained till <font> Tuesday </font> the 13th in the
Morning . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.481)

And upon the 13th in the Morning we set forth with my Lady <font> Aston
</font> , my Lord's Mother , Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> , and
Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , and the other Company , towards a Place
called <font> Holy-Well </font> , where Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was
with the rest of the Company ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.482)

and on <font> Thursday </font> Night we returned back again to <font>
Chester </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.483)

and lay there . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.484)

Upon <font> Friday </font> we came back again to my Lord's House at
<font> Tixhall </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.485)

After that I did not see Mr. <font> Ireland </font> till <font> Monday
</font> the 25th of <font> August </font> , when he came back again to
our House : (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.486)

Where he went in the mean time I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.487)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Whose House is it that this Man means by our
House ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.488)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . I mean my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's
House , at <font> Tixhall </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.489)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You know him very well , did not you ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.490)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . Yes , my Lord , I knew him very well .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.491)

<font> L. C. J. </font> You say , he came back the 26th of <font>
August </font> to <font> Tixhall ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.492)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . Yes , as I remember , he did so .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.493)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> How long after the 26th of <font> August
</font> was it , that you saw him at <font> Tixhall ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.494)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . When he went away for <font> London </font>
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.495)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> When was that ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.496)

--- Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . The 9th of <font> September </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.497)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you come along with him to <font> London ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.498)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . No , my Lord ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.499)

I saw him go ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.500)

he was not in the Coach , (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.501)

but he was in the Company . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.502)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I would fain ask him a Question , When
he was first acquainted with Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , that he
speaks of ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.503)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . I never saw him till he came to my Lord
<font> Aston </font> 's , at <font> Standen </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.504)

<font> Oates </font> . Were you at the Trial of Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> , Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.505)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . No , my Lord , I was not ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.506)

I was then in <font> Staffordshire </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.507)

<font> Oates </font> . Then it is material , my Lord , for me to ask
him this Question , it relating to a particular Person ; Whether <font>
Ireland </font> that was executed , was the <font> Ireland </font> he
says he was with ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.508)

<font> L. C. J. </font> I will ask him , if you will .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.509)

Was that the same Man that was afterwards tried and executed .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.510)

Mr. <font> Hobson </font> . I believe it was , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.511)

<font> Oates </font> . I insist not so much upon the Question , but
only in reference to the Witness , his Acquaintance being so short with
him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.512)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Truly , I think it is not so very short ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.513)

for he swears he was with him from the 3d of <font> August </font> till
the 16th every Day . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.514)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . I have no great Acquaintance with
you ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.515)

but I know you , Mr. <font> Oates </font> , because I have seen you so
often . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.516)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Is it the same <font> Ireland </font> that was
at the Trial ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.517)

You , <font> Harrison </font> , you saw him then ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.518)

<font> Harrison </font> . The very same , and no other .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.519)

Mr. Just. <font> Withins </font> . Certainly no body doubts that .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.520)

<font> L. C. J. </font> $'T $is {TEXT:'Tis} fit he should have this
Question answer'd , if the Witness can . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.521)

Pray , go on , Mr. <font> Attorney </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,79.522)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear <font> George North </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.523)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,79.524)

Pray , will <P_4,80> you give an account where you met Mr. <font>
Ireland </font> , and whether you was with him in his Journey ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.525)

<font> North </font> . My Lord , I saw him the 4th of <font> August
</font> , which was <font> Sunday </font> , at <font> Standen </font> ,
my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's House , in <font> Hertfordshire :
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.526)

Upon the 5th he went with my Lord to <font> St. Albans </font> ; where
my Lord met with Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> and his Lady ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.527)

and I was with them . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.528)

And from thence we went on <font> Tuesday </font> to the <font> George
</font> at <font> Northampton : </font> And from thence , on <font>
Wednesday </font> the 7th , to the <font> Bull </font> at <font>
Coventry : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.529)

And upon the 8th , we came to <font> Tixhall </font> , which was <font>
Thursday </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.530)

And from <font> Thursday </font> the 8th , to <font> Tuesday </font>
the 13th , I did see him every day at my Lord's House at <font> Tixhall
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.531)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Whither went he then ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.532)

<font> North </font> . He went with my old Lady , and some other
Company , to go to <font> Holy-Well </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.533)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did you see him again ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.534)

<font> North </font> . I did see him several times after that at <font>
Tixhall : </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.535)

But I took not particular notice of him again till he went away for
<font> London </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.536)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When was that ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.537)

<font> North </font> . I did see him the 9th of <font> September
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.538)

He came to go with Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> to <font> London :
</font> Mr. <font> John Southcoat </font> , and he .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.539)

I took my leave of him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.540)

<font> Oates </font> . What Religion are you of , Sir ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.541)

<font> North </font> . I am a Catholick , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.542)

<font> Oates </font> . I desire to know , how he comes to remember this
so well ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.543)

<font> North </font> . I waited at the Table ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.544)

and he was every day at Dinner with my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.545)

<font> Oates </font> . Were you at the Trial of <font> Ireland </font>
a Witness ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.546)

<font> North </font> . No indeed , my Lord , I was not .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.547)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear <font> Richard Ingletrap </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.548)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.549)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , will you give an acconnt {COM:sic}
, whether you knew Mr. <font> Ireland </font> , and where you saw him ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.550)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . The 1st of <font> August </font> , my Lord ,
I was ordered to be at Standen in <font> Hertfordshire </font> , to
wait upon my Lord <font> Aston </font> , to go with him to <font>
Tixhall </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.551)

And the 3d of <font> August </font> I saw Mr. <font> Ireland </font>
there at <font> Standen </font> Lodge at my Lord's House .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.552)

The 4th Day he rested there , being <font> Sabbath-day </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.553)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> What are you , an Hackney-Coachman ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.554)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . Yes , my Lord , I am so .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.555)

And upon the 5th , which was <font> Monday </font> , he went with my
Lord <font> Aston </font> to <font> St. Albans </font> ; upon the 6th
to Northampton ; on the 7th , to Coventry ; and the 8th Day , to <font>
Tixhall </font> Lodge . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.556)

He was in the Company , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.557)

and went all the way with him ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.558)

and I was there too . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.559)

<font> L. C. J. </font> How long did he stay there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.560)

--- <font> Ingletrap </font> . Till <font> Tuesday </font> the 13th .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.561)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see him there till <font> Tuesday ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.562)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . I do not say , that I did see him every Day
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.563)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you go with them on <font> Tuesday </font>
to <font> Holy-Well ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.564)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . No , I did not . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.565)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> But , my Lord , you observe , that is past
one of the Times that he swore <font> Ireland </font> was here in Town
; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.566)

that is between the 8th and 12th of <font> August </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.567)

<font> L. C. J. </font> It is so . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.568)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Pray , what Religion are you of , Mr.
<font> Ingletrap ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.569)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . I am a Protestant , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.570)

<font> Oates </font> . Were you at the Trial of the five Jesuits , or
that of <font> Ireland ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.571)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . No , I was not . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.572)

<font> Oates </font> . My Lord , I desire you would ask him , he being
a Protestant , how he came to be acquainted with <font> Ireland </font>
, that was a Priest ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.573)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Why , Mr. <font> Oates </font> , is there no
Conversation to be between Papists and Protestants ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.574)

<font> Oates </font> . Truly , very little , my Lord :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.575)

But that is not the Point now , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.576)

I desire to have an Answer to my Question . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.577)

<font> Ingletrap </font> . There was no great Acquaintance between us ,
my Lord ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.578)

for I never saw him before that time . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.579)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear <font> Andrew Wetton </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.580)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.581)

Did you go that Journey with my Lord <font> Aston </font> to <font>
Tixhall ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.582)

<font> Wetton </font> . No ; I went from <font> Tixhall </font> to
<font> Holy-well </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.583)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> What Day did you set out from <font>
Tixhall ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.584)

<font> Wetton </font> . Upon <font> Tuesday </font> the 13th of <font>
August </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.585)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Where did you lie that Night ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.586)

<font> Wetton </font> . At <font> Nantwich </font> at the <font>
Holy-Lamb </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.587)

And next Day we baited at <font> Chester </font> ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.588)

and from thence we came the next Night to <font> Holy-Well </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.589)

There we staid all Night , and till next day at Noon .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.590)

We din'd at <font> Holy-Well </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.591)

and came that Night back to <font> Chester </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.592)

And from thence , the next day , we came home to <font> Tixhall </font>
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.593)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Was Mr. <font> Ireland </font> there all the
while ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.594)

<font> Wetton </font> . Mr. <font> Ireland </font> was there ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.595)

I looked after his Horse . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.596)

<font> L. C. J. </font> When did he come first to <font> Tixhall ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.597)

<font> Wetton </font> . He came upon the 8th , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.598)

and staid till the 13th ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.599)

and then went to <font> Holy-Well </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.600)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray , what Religion are you of ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.601)

<font> Wetton </font> . I am Protestant , Sir . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.602)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> And the 9th of <font> September </font> he
came away from <font> Tixhall </font> to <font> London </font> , you
say ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.603)

<font> Wetton </font> . Yes ; I saw them take Coach ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.604)

and he did ride on horseback . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.605)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Did you see him often at <font> Tixhall </font>
, between the time he came from <font> Holy-Well </font> and the time
he went to <font> London ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.606)

<font> Wetton </font> . Yes , he was there several times ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.607)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell the particular Days :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.608)

But , my Lord , if you please , I can tell you the very Money he gave
me , which was a Shilling and two Sixpences , when he came back from
<font> Holy-Well </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.609)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And the 16th , you say , he came back from
<font> Holy-Well ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.610)

<font> Wetton </font> . Yes , it was the 16th , upon <font> Friday
</font> , that he came from <font> Holy-Well </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.611)

<font> L. C. J. </font> And he says , the 9th of <font> September
</font> he came back again from <font> Tixhall </font> to <font> London
</font> ; and that he saw him several times , in the mean time , at my
Lord <font> Aston </font> 's House . (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.612)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> So , my Lord , we are past one of the
times ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.613)

and have fix'd him at <font> Tixhall </font> upon the 16th .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.614)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> We have a Couple of Witnesses more upon
this Point , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.615)

and then we shall go on to the 17th ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.616)

and so all along to the 9th of <font> September </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.617)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear <font> Thomas Sawyer </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.618)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.619)

When came Mr. <font> Ireland </font> to <font> Tixhall ? </font>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,80.620)

can you tell ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.621)

--- Mr. <font> Sawyer </font> . He came the 8th of <font> August
</font> to <font> Tixhall </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.622)

and continued there till the 13th : (OATES-E3-P1,4,80.623)

And then <P_4,81> he went away ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.624)

but whither he went I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.625)

But , as I was told , it was to <font> Holy-Well </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.626)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> When did he come to <font> Tixhall </font>
again ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.627)

Mr. <font> Sawyer </font> . When my old Lady <font> Aston </font> came
home , which was <font> Friday </font> the 16th .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.628)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Do you know when he left <font> Tixhall
</font> for good and all ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.629)

Mr. <font> Sawyer </font> . The 9th of <font> September </font> , my
Lord , he went with Sir <font> John Southcoat </font> to go to <font>
London </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.630)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Can you remember {COM:sic} he was there at any
time between the 16th of <font> August </font> , and the 9th of <font>
September ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.631)

Mr. <font> Sawyer </font> . He was once or twice there ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.632)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell the particular Days .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.633)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> What Persuasion are you of , as to
Religion , Sir ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.634)

Mr. <font> Sawyer </font> . I am one of the Church of <font> England
</font> , my Lord . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.635)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Truth is the same in all Persuasions .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.636)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> But we would obviate Mr. <font> Oates
</font> 's Objection that they are all Papists . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.637)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Swear <font> Frances Allen </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.638)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> </bracket>
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.639)

Pray , will you give an Account , when you saw Mr. <font> Ireland
</font> in <font> Staffordshire ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.640)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . He came the 8th Day of <font> August
</font> to <font> Tixhall </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.641)

and continued there the 9th , , 11th , 12th , and to the 13th in the
Morning , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.642)

and then he did go to <font> Holy-Well </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.643)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> She will tell you of one particular
Circumstance , how she remembers him about that Time .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.644)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . The of <font> August </font> was <font>
Saturday </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.645)

and that which causeth me to remember it , is this :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.646)

There was a Woman , one <font> Sarah Paine </font> , I think her Name
was , which testified at the Trial , that he was in Town at that Time ;
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.647)

but he was not : (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.648)

For he was at <font> Tixhall </font> upon the , which was <font>
Saturday </font> ; and the 11th , which was <font> Sabbath-day :
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.649)

And I saw him in the Chamber those Days . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.650)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> How came you to know him so well ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.651)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . I was a Servant to my Lord <font> Aston
</font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.652)

and look'd to Mr. <font> Ireland </font> 's Chamber ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.653)

and wash'd his Linnen ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.654)

and those Days I saw him in his Chamber . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.655)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> When he went from <font> Tixhall </font>
to <font> Holy-Well </font> the 13th , when did he come back again ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.656)

--- Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . The 16th Day , which was <font> Friday
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.657)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Did he come afterwards to <font> Tixhall
</font> at any Time ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.658)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . He went away the 17th ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.659)

and I can tell you by a good Token , that he did so :
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.660)

For the 17th I carried his Clothes into his Chamber , that he was to
take with him . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.661)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> When did he come again to <font> Tixhall ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.662)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . He came several Times ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.663)

but truly I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what Days particularly .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.664)

--- <font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Pray when did he go away for good and
all ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.665)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . I remember his going away with Sir <font>
John Southcoat </font> , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.666)

but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell the Time . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.667)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> Pray , what Religion are you of ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.668)

Mrs. <font> Allen </font> . I am a Protestant of the Church of <font>
England </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.669)

so I was christened , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.670)

so I have lived , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.671)

and so I hope to die before you all . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.672)

<font> L. C. J. </font> Upon my word , she is very kind ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.673)

she has a Mind to die before us : (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.674)

$'T $is {TEXT:'Tis} a Sign she lives a good Life , $she $'s
{TEXT:she's} so ready to die . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.675)

<font> Mr. Att. Gen. </font> So , my Lord , you see , that the 17th of
<font> August </font> he departed from my Lord <font> Aston </font> 's
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.676)

Now we shall call Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> to give you an Account
whither he went on the 17th . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.677)

Swear Mrs. <font> Jane Harwell </font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.678)

<bracket> <font> Which was done . </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.679)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Where do you live , Mrs. <font> Harwell ?
</font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.680)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . I live now in Town , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.681)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Where did you live in the Year 78 ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.682)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . At <font> Wolverhampton </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.683)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> Did you know Mr. <font> Ireland </font> ,
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.684)

he that was executed ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.685)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . Very well , my Lord .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.686)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> What Time did he come to your House at
<font> Wolverhampton ? </font> (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.687)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . The 17th of <font> August </font> , 1678
. (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.688)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> What Day of the Week was it ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.689)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . Upon <font> Saturday </font> .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.690)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> From whence did he say he came at that
Time ? (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.691)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . I do verily believe it was from <font>
Tixhall </font> that he came ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.692)

I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} positively say . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.693)

<font> Mr. Sol. Gen. </font> How long staid he there ?
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.694)

Mrs. <font> Harwell </font> . He came to my House the 17th of <font>
August </font> , 1678 . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.695)

He supped there that Night , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.696)

and I think he lay in my House every Night till the 26th of the same
Month . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.697)

Upon the 19th Day , after Dinner , I went with him a good Part of the
Town of <font> Wolverhampton </font> ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.698)

and upon <font> Friday </font> following , which was the 23d , he went
a little Way out of Town , to a Fair hard by , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.699)

and return'd the same Day , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.700)

and staid at my House the next Day , being <font> Bartholomew-Day
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.701)

The next Day , being the 25th , being <font> Sunday </font> , he was at
my House , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.702)

and he staid , as I said , every Night , (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.703)

and lay at my House ; (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.704)

and went away on <font> Monday </font> the 26th of <font> August
</font> . (OATES-E3-P1,4,81.705)

It was , to the best of my Remembrance , in the Morning .
(OATES-E3-P1,4,81.706)

