<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>0:25 yes good morning <.>sha er sharon <{><[><,> um i was very pleased to hear that you've been trying to get <,> er hold of that firm that said that the benefits are still too high <[>hello oh the gareth morgan yeah right well yes it's the other firm i tried actually to look them up but they're not in wellington are they they're in auckland i think yes that's right yes <,> um i would say that these people are up in their ivory TOWERS yes <.>i i'm astonished and would very much have liked to ask him to question him more closely but what we ARE going to do <,> he HAS spoken to one of our journalists and we're going to <&>1:00 <.>repla replay that for you in its entirety so that you can hear what he said but it does leave a lot of things unanswered <,> <{><[><.>i agree it seems <,> madness for example <,> which benefits are <,> providing more money than is needed <[><.>i mhm you know which areas can be cut <,> and <,> WHO would qualify for the lower benefits <.>its <.>from <.>from from his reckoning it would seem only the TRULY desperate right? yes this is right now inhales i <.>h know of a person who's got TWO TEENAGERS plus herself and she is actually living on sixty dollars a week for food and <,> um other things <{><[>yeah <.>how <[>how much SIXTY DOLLARS oh dear <,> with two teenagers with two teenagers gosh <,> <.>how what are her circumstances well she's a <.>d on the d p b right but <,> i mean laughs i am actually trying to help her out but i'm on the national super too so i can't help her out very much mm now <.>the these persons i would like to <.>a you to ask <&>2:00 them if you <.>can if you EVER get on to them <,> <{><[>um <[>flush them out you mean yes <,> is for them to do a budget <.>fo <.>for <.>a um voc ONE person one adult and two teenagers but that's not his argument you see this is the scary thing <,> his argument is that the welfare state or benefits or whatever <{1><[1>are NOT there <,> NOT THERE to offer you a normal life <{2><[2><.>they're <[1>yeah <[2>well what does he call normal well <,> a normal life where you would have all those things CAR perhaps telephone <,> um <,> big supermarket bill <,> <.>he he's saying that they should ONLY be there <,> for people who face <,,> you know complete um poverty or <,> the gutter or something i would love to ask him <,> but his partner says that he's got clients and that he doesn't talk to the media he talks <{><[>to the clients <[><.>w voc yes well i would say that the clients are wanting him to say this <,> you mean a hint of the business round table <&>3:00 here YES yes you're <{><[>probably right <[>i would really say so sharon <,> i mean you have gone <.>int into it <.>i into it very thoroughly haven't you <,> in the benefit cuts yes <.>a and that <,> and <.>i i mean and also um <,> oh exhales i can't think of her name you know the one that did the <.>j the <.>did the <.>b the menu for you <{><[>the bit <[>oh alison holst's menu yes voc that's right <.>cour my <,> mind went blank <,> um coughs and i mean you know THEY have gone into it and THEY say that it's going to be hard <,> and i mean if <.>he's he's making these people DESPERATE <,> and why should they not <.>have <,> why shouldn't the children be able to have a lolly <,,> or um <.>they maybe go out for <.>a an outing <,,> <{><[>why shouldn't they <[><.>we well you see the thing the question that that gareth morgan would ask you i'm sure is <,> why should the tax payer contribute to the quality of life <,> <{><[>of others <[>voc uh well i <{><[>think <&>4:00 <[>unless they are absolutely desperate well this is not bringing children UP is it no <{><[>and it's not <.>the christian thing about <,> my brother's keeper <,> it's not <,> he ain't heavy he's my brother it's none of those things <[>IT IS NOT no <{><[>no <[>because he says the country can't afford it oh <.>b you <.>know i think what's being forced on us as ordinary new zealanders <{><[>is to ask ourselves what sort of society we want <[>voc yes well <.>i'm i just feel that he is actually doing it just for <.>his for his uh client <{><[>or clients whichever they are <[>well well we're certainly not resting on this one leave it with us <{1><[1>and we'll talk through the morning about it <{2><[2>we'll at least get some other opinions <.>from from people about just what could be cut but i'm glad you <.>sss <{3><[3>share a sense of outrage <[1>yes <[2>yes <[3>yes <,> i've actually spoken to you <.>ab <,> before about um benefit cuts and things sharon i'm very <.>k very UP on this you know i mean i'm well into it you know yes and i am just ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED fair enough we'll see what we <{1><[1>can find out <{2><[2>okay sonya <,> bye bye <[1>yes <[2>right thank you very much <,> bye <&>5:00 <&>bits of adverts follow <&>5:06 z b good morning to julie oh hi i've just about forgotten what i was going to talk about laughs <.>oh sorry about that laughs that's all right i got wrapped in all your starting speech about what the husbands do you know the towel rolled up and all that sort of thing what does yours do um <,> read in the loo yeah um <,> <{><[>reads all <[>for hours and hours ? yes for hours and hours and all the kids and you are dying to get in but you can't yeah have you thought of putting a hose through the window <,> behind him yeah but then i'd have to clean it up <,> laughs well if the pressure was high enough there wouldn't be much to clean up i imagine the short sharp shock to the back of the neck and he'd move like greased lightning <,> as long as you have one of the children policing the tap <,> anyway it's just a practical suggestion julie what else does he do voc what else does he do i wasn't actually ringing up about this but anyway um <,> um leaves the shaving um stuff on the bench <,> in the bathroom <,> which is a bit dangerous with <&>6:00 two young children mm um does he leave the whiskers in the basin oh yes oh yes that goes with it <,> um hair you know <,> with a beard and dark hair so the the the black hair that gets in the bath because the towel gets hung over the bath laughs <,,> to be fair <,> what do you do that annoys him oh nothing i'm perfect laughs that's what i want to hear there's not many of us left <,> all right now julie that's not why you rang <{><[>but we will contemplate the reading in the lavatory <,> the rest of the morning <,> go on <[>no no right <,> anyway um <.>i have you tried to get a tax pack from the inland revenue no laughs well <.>this laughs it's fun <,> er my husband went in a few weeks ago in the hutt one and um said he wanted an i r three for me to read in the lav <.>b word laughs and <,> so they send out i r FIVES and er the air was a bit blue when that er got opened up <,> and so we rang this morning <,> and first of all you get this <&>7:00 funny females on <.>a some answer phone thing saying that if you <,> um if you want this <,> extension or something or other press this number and press that number and we didn't know what she was talking about <{><[>oh well <[>and when we finally got through to somebody else ah have you got a touch phone yes er well then press so and so so we pressed so and so and then you get back to another answer phone and <,> and then they say well <,> um give your message and <,> we'll get back to you in forty eight hours or something or other well then they say thank you very much and hung the phone up er <{><[>LOOK <[>and we tried twice each oh LOOK <,> LOOK <.>wh pam has just said <.>sh we'll ring their problem resolution officer our FRIEND on this programme he's our FRIEND we ring him quite often you want to know why they made a mistake and what's this forty eight hour wait for a return call etcetera etcetera no well it's <.>a actually going to get it back to you in forty eight hours and i was going to say RIGHT now it is the seventh of may and it is such and such time and i was going to expect it back in forty eight hours but i never got the chance to TELL them because it said thank you and cut me off <,> and they did it four times <&>8:00 oh this is BARMY <,> i wonder if we could ring them on the air and see what <,> i have to ask about the technicalities of that but we could have a bit of fun cos apparently if you have a touch phone you can push all these numbers to get different places you see i see different departments in the inland revenue yes is this a touch phone tony <.>ye yes it is a touch phone we'll have a bit of a go later i'll work it out during the ten oclock news <{><[>otherwise we'll <[>great meantime i'll try and see if i can get back to them and we'll fall back on the problem resolution officer and ask him why there is this high tech lunacy which will only INFLAME the tax payers even more they want us to pay the damn stuff they should get it to us but they know that <,> they're in a win win situation <{1><[1>because if you don't ha ha ha all right we'll see what we can find out <{2><[2>this is VERY funny talk about simplified tax <,> bye <[1>yes yes <[2>thanks very much right bye laughs bye <&>8:48 <&>advert follows <&>9:38 it's twenty eight to ten <,> vi hello <,,> vi good morning? <,> nope <.>sh it's time to talk to sherry hi hello hello sherry? yes <{><[>sherry <[>er <,> sharon <.>ye right uh good morning good morning um look i'm ringing up to have a moan about these <,> benefit cut things and things um <,,> not <&>10:00 so much i'm i'm not on the d p b or anything i'm married with three little kids <,> um my husband's selfemployed he's really trying to make a living out there mm and um he hasn't had any wages for fourteen weeks trying to make his business go <,> and we don't qualify for anything i'm sick of hearing about all these solo parents and <,> mothers and things that haven't got anything and i've got a few friends that are solo mothers and really seem to be on the pig's back i know there's some genuine ones out there yes but there's also some out there that really <,> are having the system on who should have <,> responsibility for THEM if they've been left <.>w <.>n <.>th <{><[>the <.>pers the people that deserve it you mean <[>by the husband <.>ye ye the well <{1><[1>no the solo mothers right <{2><[2>you say are on the pig's back <{3><[3>is that <.>because <[1>well <.>let's <[2>yep <[3>no not all of them but i'm just saying there's <,> a quite a few out there <,> that really are ripping the system off have you reported them no no why not well some of these people are my friends <,> <&>11:00 well what <{><[><.>ar <[>and <,> you know the thing is too <,> <{><[>um <,> how can you prove it <[>well that's the problem isn't it well if you know it's happening they've got a new <,> um <,> a new BRANCH of social welfare that you ring <{1><[1>and tell now you see you can't have <{2><[2>it both ways you've just said to us that <,> you've had no wages for fourteen weeks how are you managing <[1>er well <[2>yes <&>11:20