<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>24:36 evening to you arthur yes is that er you mike yep this is look i'm a bit nervous on this don't worry about it first time i've ever rung up good on you now we've got a couple of women as word say running this country ruth richardson and jenny shipley now going back YEARS ago we had one woman in parliament and her name was mabel howard mabel howard the <{><[>bloomer woman <[>now does <.>anybod yeah she hung a pair of bloomers out over the balcony <&>25:00 that's right <{><[>and she went down to er i remember <.>s reading about her she went down to some building site or police station or something didn't she it was a building site and she climbed up a whole bunch of ladders to the top to talk to the men was that right <[>er well i'm not too sure who voc she talked to the men but she hung her bloomers out <{><[>or a pair of bloomers in parliament building <[>that's right i remember that now <,> that was the only woman in parliament is that right er i think so at the time yeah now i don't know what i'm trying to er get through here but we've got these two women as i say mentioned before mm we had a prime minister prior to the two we've just had says a couple of SCHOOL teachers are running the country rolling and tizard right well now apparently it gives me the er impression we've got a couple of WOMEN running it NO we haven't bolger's running this country <{1><[1>or you listen you listen to some people <{2><[2>the bureaucrats are or treasury is i think the basic problem is that the er the punter in the street given all of the comment that's coming in doesn't have a clue who's <&>26:00 running the country could be bolger could er ruth richardson or jenny shipley could be treasury could be the bureaucracy er could be the er high fliers on the round table could be anybody <[1>well i'm not too <[2>i'm not too sure <.>i i can go along with that but er do they remember mabel howard i don't know <{><[>whether they do or not oh they'd know of her <[>they would be too young <.>th er OF her well why don't they follow in her footsteps why what did she do that's so fantastic well in the labour party in those days they were great they were great they made us i'm fifty seven years of age mm and they brought <&>pronounced as bought us right through a depression and the lot yes they did actually they got us out of it although there is voc a pretty good economic argument that says we come out of depressions anyway whether we do much or not i mean it's a cyclical thing it's an historic thing and it's an international thing they say the world is on an upturn at the moment the world economy is er come out of it and is growing slowly and we'll pick up on that whether we're doing anything or not oh well the other thing is i mean you're talking about the building of the houses and stuff like that aren't you they all launched in and built a whole bunch of houses to <{><[>er <&>27:00 <[>well they're all state houses indeed but er what what do we do we need state houses now we need state houses like we need a hole in the head well there's plenty of empty ones yes there is and that's the funny thing so we don't need to <{><[>build <[>why don't they fill them well exactly we don't need to build anymore do we well not <.>rea well there were are areas where you can yeah i liked it the other day did you read that story you know how they're trying to change the housing system and if you're a single person in a three bedroom house <{><[>they want to <.>k they want to try and kick you out <[>word oh no you got to take er in laws in yeah well that well see they haven't got any one bedroom houses that's just it a third of the occupants of the <.>house state houses in this country are by themselves right <{><[>and yet fifty seven percent of the houses are three BEDroom houses <[>yeah mm and so they've got hardly any one bedroom houses whole bunch of <.>w single people so what they need to be doing is building the single room houses don't they i'll go along with that good i'm glad nice to talk to you right oh then take care evening bob gidday mike you're well <&>28:00 well mate good voc good little interview <{><[>you tried you tried to get her on tack you tried you tried to hold her to it and you did voc reasonably well at it <[>word thank you now <.>th um i was gonna ask you a question about this but i won't because your your producer reckons and i've conceded that what i was gonna say concerning ruth richardson wouldn't do us any good because you'd already had the interview and it would only stir things so i won't nothing wrong with stirring things no no <{><[>it's all right it's all right now voc what i would like to mention is this woman who just rang up about the <.>c this military that's going on at the moment the the naval fifty year business <[>as you well know bob yep what a load of rubbish i mean when when the the the belt tightening is going on so so called er it is an amazing thing to see all this these helicopters rushing around the place <.>r you know burning up MASSES of fuel and you've got your ships and you've got your parties and cocktail parties and god knows what celebrating birthdays i mean laughs it just <&>29:00 seems to be an enormous waste of money um i've said it before i'll say it again helicopters are a very very good thing and they should be unique in <.>wel in new zealand as a a civil defence force yeah they should be they should be stationed <.>r up and down the north and the south island maybe at six to eight different depots they would be called the civil defence they would not be voc anything to do with army navy or airforce but they would be civil defence they would also oversee the er air air sea rescue any other rescue mountain rescues any civil defence emergencies and they would be the best vehicles to do that because they could take off without needing a runway <,> any shipping that was um pinching our fish they could go out and more or less er give a <.>g give notice exactly where the ship was that was doing the <&>30:00 illegal fishing and we could have two or three small craft in each island that would go out and actually arrest the captains of that ship <,> this would cut down comPLETely the eNORmous waste for these <.>in these ridiculous frigates and other ships that are okay they're nice grey hulks from the past but they don't you know they might look all very er tremendous going through the waters and look at these beautiful big grey ships with their big guns but what the hell use are they yeah and they're wasting money now <,> i've even thought how to arrange savings through the military because your basic people from the military that's army navy AND airforce would run these six or eight depots which would be civil defence depots they would run them they would go they would be all divided up anyone who wanted to be in these depots would it would be a PURELY voluntary thing anybody else and most of the people in the military have taken some form of trade or other they would all leave the military if the ones that <&>31:00 wanted to leave with some form of gratuity they would a heck of a lot of them would do a great deal for themselves they would leave their er army navy or airforce and they'd get into business on their own with voc the <.>he the help of the trade that they'd already learnt because a hell of a lot of them are tradesmen um they would they would be VERY welcome from any sensible government <.>t to stay with the outfit and run the civil defence makes sense beCAUSE there would be no tanks guns ships or other crap <.>th <.>th you know that would be then sold off to iraq whatever whoever voc else wanted it why can't you just commandeer helicopters that are round anyway why do you have special ones no don't i'm not saying you would HAVE to have very well equipped <.>h voc it would be very well worthwhile buying the best in helicopters so that you could operate in all weathers like er most military ones have got the various radar help and god knows what to help them <{><[>go through the filthy weather and go at night to see what's going on voc they <&>32:00 would be an eNORmous help to the police at certain times as with all these bank robberies they would be voc all could be used and charged up to the various departments but you know it could be user pay type of thing as well <[>yeah yeah it it would WORK I I CAN'T BELIEVE why they keep on with this military in its present form because of <{><[>history <[>it it it it with all its look did you HEAR yesterday they're going they were all having cocktail parties and things like this on the ships in various place to to celebrate this birthday thing i mean i could not believe it <,> <{1><[1>i mean i celebrated a fiftieth birthday about a <{2><[2>year ago and somebody sent me a card <,> i got a CARD from my daughter and that was it <{3><[3><,> but i thought god almighty they've all got to go and have cocktail parties and <,> you know er oh look remember the battle of the somme we were all there you know bugger this <[1>well that's word <[2>laughs <[3>laughs laughs <{><[>laughs good to talk to you bob <[>i'm fed up with it listen mate yeah there's one more thing <{1><[1>i was talking to a guy on the bus today he was a visitor from melbourne and he <.>quo we were just having a little natter about things on the way into wellington and he said something about the fact that <&>33:00 fourteen cents per litre l p g in melbourne fourteen <{2><[2>cents <,> er now i hope he's right because i don't want to be voc i don't want to be wrong on my facts on this programme er WE pay around seventy four cents a litre for l p g <[1>good <[2>WHAT no we don't do we er a <.>li a litre i i thought it was something like fifty five sixty well if it's sixty he says <.>sevent he <.>wa he was just quoting that he'd seen it seventy <{><[>well let's let's presume it was sixty <[>yeah right and he says that it's fourteen cents a litre in melbourne i <{><[>can't believe it <[>he word well i couldn't but he said look he's he's people are bringing back v eights and goodness knows what now and <.>pu just putting them on to l p g because of the low <{><[>price of l p g <[>fourteen cents a litre that well you know well if you work that out at a gallon yeah that's forty that's about er sixty cents a gallon which is goes back to petrol in the old days or virtually does doesn't it but anyway it's worth looking if you could just research some facts on that you're in a better position to do <&>34:00 that than i am <,> and i thought well you know good idea the lady said before that the government the <.>la well the gentleman did about the labour party being great and i thought to myself yeah great it does you know in the thirties they're great in retrospect not great really but when you look at anything way back thirty forty years you think oh those were the days now i'll tell you who's really great in retrospect compared to <,> roger douglas and the and the crowd that are there now is muldoon and that's not so far back so i'll leave you on that note yes voc see you later bob <&>34:37