<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>0:12 what the the abolition of the um the tribunal or or or its <{><[>beginning <[>no what i'm saying that what i'm saying is the type of maori policy <{><[>that was pushed at the conference by the national party i think could be its destruction <[>mm do you think so yep i know that they got a the seven hundred delegates gave simon upton a standing ovation but the point i'm making is what they're suggesting is racially very divisive for the country oh definitely cos i think that the tribunal can only do a um er is is actually sort of doing a good job instead of <,> people venting anger on their streets or whatever it's it's a sort of a a venting <{><[>word <&>1:00 <[>oh it's just a very healthy outlet and it's also a valid one mm mm i mean all they can do is do researching <.>an and i don't think that's such a such a terrible thing to get an <.>am up in arms about cos it's <.>o i mean it's <.>on we're only talking about justice and yes whether things happened a hundred years ago or twenty years ago <{1><[1>or even today <{2><[2>cos that's another <.>th one of its um areas of of contention of making sure the crown doesn't act inconsistently with the treaty so i don't see um that as a personally i don't find that too much a big a big trouble because um there's no reason why the crown should break the treaty <[1>right <[2>right no so maybe that's why why winston peters and and co want to weaken the tribunal so that um maybe if they want to go ahead of this treaty there's nothing to really stop them apart from that sort of ten percent of of the voting force which doesn't have that much no well winston peters rubbished the the treaty um i i'll <&>2:00 actually quote what he he said the other day about it he said <,> how anybody can believe that a poorly drafted inadequately worded and inherently contradictory document of a hundred and fifty years ago could save maoridom is beyond me mm well i think that's taking taking <.>maor a maori interpretation of of the treaty too far i don't think anyone's saying that the treaty can save us no <.>u um all it can do is um use the the the sort of kaupapa the philosophies behind it of <.>g of goodwill tolerance understanding all those the the <{><[>positive kinds of things and maybe apply them in nineteen ninety <[>yes yes cos i i see the problem arising as as of of the breaking of the treaty and and the dishonouring of it and <.>tha that's where the whole source of um of conflict must of arose you know <{><[>that's the way i look at it <[>yeah i <.>th i agree with that yeah um one other thing <.>i i don't know if you're aware but today <&>3:00 is the beginning of maori language week oh yes yes so um as a suggestion <.>o for of of translating and having a bilingual name for radio pacific <{><[>cos irirangi is radio <[>voc yes and pacific in maori is um well in full it's moana nui a kiwa the big ocean of kiwa he was <{><[>in one of an ancient sort of seafarer so shortened maybe irirangi o te moana or something like that <[>mm that's a good idea yeah <.>i i <.>do i don't know if um the listeners out there would be in tautoko in support of of of maori language but you know that'd be worth finding out what a good idea thanks for bringing that to our attention there larry thanks a lot right oh <{><[>bye <[>bye <&>three minutes forty two to six minutes twelve seconds monologue by HF not transcribed robert good evening good evening clears throat is that felix i'm speaking to yes robert yes well felix um i'm interested in a in a medical situation which i have i wondered if you might be able to help me with some information yeah clears throat now i was told about um eighteen months or two years ago that i have er fairly large gall stones and they give me quite a bit of trouble from time to time i'm just getting over one bout now <{><[>and as far as i have been coughs advised um the removal of the gall bladder itself is the only option <,> but i have heard since then that there is a machine down in the waikato operated by some private doctors which will bombard gall stones <&>7:00 with um <[>yes laser mm yes right <.>a yes and i hear it's very good in in fact i hear that probably surgery now isn't er so usual for gall bladders <{1><[1>gall <.>st bladder problems gall bladder actually i've been there with that one <{2><[2>is one of the most painful <,> <{3><[3>pains you can have <[1>that's right <[2>yes <[3>yes it is i thought i was going to die on er friday morning but coughs i was pulling through that one all right have you are you under medical care yes but um it's limited um they're waiting for me to make a decision and er if there can be a decision made where i can get something useful um without having the bladder removed i'd rather take it that way well who told you about the treatment in waikato er well i saw the programme on t v er and i assumed from what i'd heard that it also included gall bladder <{><[>word <[>yes i've heard it does <&>8:00 mm so why don't you get your specialist to refer you to their to there for treatment well i think i might do that um actually have you any idea who has the machine available down there no i don't know i have i didn't i've just heard about the treatment not where it was yes in fact somebody said to me had you medical colleague said had you had your gall bladder problem now that's how it would have been treated <{1><[1>mind you er at the time some people were telling me how in china and i think some still use acupuncture <{2><[2>to treat er gall stones <[1>yes <[2>oh is that right yes so that's another possibility acupuncture treatment yes and there are some good people around who do that but why not get your specialist to check through where they he would or she would know <&>9:00 where the er programme is that's doing it that way well i'd have to go back to my family doctor cos he was the one who advised me <{1><[1>that the removal of the gall <{2><[2>bladder was the only answer <[1>right <[2>yes well i ask to for up to date on where this programme is yes all right that's what i'd recommend well thank you very much for your interest <{><[>felix <[>yeah somebody else may be able to help who's had that treatment if so please ring us cos we we're linked toll free to the waikato on three nine three oh double nine so somebody surely can tell us oh is that right well do you want my telephone number well if you'd like to leave it <.>o yes <&>9:36 <&>section not transcribed where caller gives his telephone number <&>9:48 right oh then robert thank <{><[>you very much <[>thank you right <{><[>bye good luck with that <[>bye bye thank you <&>9:54 <&>two minutes twelve seconds of next caller not transcribed as sounds ineligible <&>12:06 <&>one minute forty eight seconds of monologue by HF not transcribed <&>13:54 <&>six minutes twenty four seconds of next caller not transcribed as sounds ineligible <&>20:18 <&>ten minutes of news bulletin and commercials and weather forecast not transcribed <&>30:18 and back to the boards we go we go on tolls to northland good evening beth good evening i hope you're not tired of gall stones but <{><[>laughs i heard you talking about them and this is something i tried myself about six months ago and it worked with me it was given to us YEARS ago by a friend who had tried it himself and other people had tried it and it's quite simple it's just a tablespoon of finely grated raw beetroot with one <.>ta TEAspoon of olive oil <,> three times a day three quarters of an hour before meals for two weeks and it works <[>laughs no <.>y you had bad gall stones <{><[>did you <[>yes about six <&>31:00 months ago and i had this filed and i tried it it was most uncomfortable about the thirteenth day and that was all where did you find this recipe oh a friend YEARS and years ago gave it to us because he'd tried it himself and was so enthusiastic about it and he gave it to us mm i don't know where he got it and were you about to have operations <{><[>or anything <[>i was mm yes right oh well thanks for ringing on tolls <{><[>and telling us <.>ab <[>just just while i'm speaking to you not that i'm laughs be all and end all of everything but er i've always meant to share er because so many people have migraines and i was given a cure for migraines which i'd never known before and it's so simple it's just two big glasses of CARROT juice you have to buy yourself a juicer not a citrus juicer and it's the best investment you'll ever have if you have migraines and take it as soon as you can as soon as the migraine comes on and it goes CARROT juice <&>32:00 carrot juice right it's just magnificent okay then right thanks for those <{><[>handy hints right oh beth <[>word everybody bye bye bye bye and we go over now to anna on line TWO good evening anna <,> there anna? NO we must try we'll try <,,> HANNAH hannah yes yes i was ringing about these gall stones yes i think people need to be <.>aware <&>32:36 <&>end of side one <&>side two <&>0:06 um i think it was stress there was a few things happened in the family er too many changes and broken love affairs and things like that that can upset you and trigger it off well she might have gone on through life if she had a shall we say a reasonably calm sort of life although i sometimes think perhaps nobody really has a reasonably calm sort of life most people have some kind of uphill fight don't they yes do you think so i sometimes <{><[>wonder <[><.>oh i think we all do life <{><[>isn't easy <[>mm mm but what was the the major thing that helped her come right er let me see now um she had some harrowing times out at carrington when it wasn't as good as it is now although it's not so hot NOW at times but it was much worse then <&>1:00 mm er and um a good psychiatrist who took an interest in her was the turning point er sometimes you're unlucky <.>i in those days you would be just shut away and she said that's one of the most worst things that can happen to you to be shut in a room with no window and and just a bed nothing else and er locked in mm and she said that really makes you feel worse i i'm sure it would well thanks for your contributions tonight joan YES there's some hope there isn't <{><[>there right oh felix bye bye <[>right oh right good bye bye good evening sarah oh yes hi felix um there's been a lot of talk this week about um mental illness and also about um guns and weapons yes and i'd like to speak on both of them um firstly there was a lady on during the week from psychiatric survivors um i would have liked to talk to her at the time but exhales <&>2:00 i held on and i was bit busy so i didn't get to speak to her but i look upon <.>m mental illness just like any other illness i think people usually go to their g ps and if they are lucky enough to get um the right sort of help they can be cured or fixed up but like any illness if it's left it just festers and it gets worse and worse till then it becomes chronic um i think society still doesn't look upon it just as any other illness which i i do because i think it's like any other illness it can usually be fixed up um just one of the things that the <.>psych lady from psychiatric survivors said which i think was the most important <,> and it would probably help all the terrible things that have been going on happening is if people when they reached out for help were given the help then instead of it <,> um kind of being turned away or neglected or ignored mm do you sort of understand what i mean <{><[>often with all these um <&>3:00 <[>yeah i do when they're ready when they're need it <{><[>most word <[>yeah people will reach out either through telephone counselling services or go to their g ps or whatever and they're not given the help that they are THERE seeking and <{><[>the <[>well they these people <.>ca haven't got enough skills to do that <{><[>perhaps <[>yeah and um but often it's not even skills so much it's just often they need support probably more than anything else and um i think that's where we need to start and then if we started there which is a fairly simple step to start at it would stop the illness progressing and then going on to all the problems we have inhales um going on to the business about the guns i heard word during the week um he was really giving the er public a hard time um exhales he was <&>sighs <.>w <.>w what i'd like to say is the public are being they're being encouraged to stop being lethargic and submissive and um caring and to sort of reach out and take care <&>4:00 of each other and now they're sort of getting knocked for it but that doesn't mean to say that i'm would like to see people armed what i really would like to see is um guns made illegal i think that <{><[>they <.>sh <[>LEGAL did you say yeah made illegal ILlegal <{><[>yes <[>yeah that <.>th they should have an amnesty period um where people should have to hand all their guns in what about those who go go rifle shooting or hunting oh well i was just going to get to that then they have a a period after that amnesty period where guns are all handed in that they have a confiscation period if <.>an if they come across anyone with guns and i think there should be a gun ban <.>a a a central police location in each city or whatever and you must go and hire the gun out and you have to have a specific reason and a specific amount of time that you're going to have it and it may be a little bit inconvenient for some people but if they want to go hunting or whatever then that's the price they have to pay because otherwise i think we're just going to become like america <&>5:00 and if we leave it any longer we it's it's not going to take much more interesting idea and i'd like to hear people's response sarah <{><[>to that one thanks for your call <[>okay okay bye bye <&>5:08