<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>5:47 and it's er thirteen minutes after twelve and er we'll find out what trevor's er got on his mind hello trevor hello trevor gidday nothing significant nothing significant trivial <&>6:00 trivial? that's <{><[><.>a that's all right <[>yep good tut there's one habit that most smokers develop and it's never talked about yep it's got nothing to do with health smoking develops the art of being a litterbug tut oh yes <{><[>yes yeah yeah right yeah <[>er you you think about it you go to ANY function yep football any public function what do you see on the ground the stubs of cigarettes eh? <.>s used to be er matchsticks um cigarette packs match um tut used matchboxes and so on nowadays it's cigarette lighters but you go anywhere and i defy anyone to tell me that habitually throwing your cigarette butts anywhere you please does not develop the habit of throwing anything else <{><[>away <[>yep yeah you go down any highway in new zealand er and you'll find it's just dumped it's it's just a <.>r a receptacle for rubbish that people get into the habit of um doing <{><[>dumping anything and everything and considering that once upon a time or twenty years ago more than half the population smoked <[>yeah <&>7:00 yeah that's right er <{><[><.>y <[><.>and <.>and <.>and to me it's an insidious habit <{><[>and this country is a pigsty you only have to go down say er south of bombay hills <[>mm yeah wind your car window down slow down to about twenty miles an hour and take a look at the side of the road i've never done <{><[>it i don't know <[>it's <.>a oh look well i have <{><[>laughs it's unbelievable laughs <[>yeah but i guess i i guess that that would be true you see they had a huge cleanup around the world in environmental day about er i think it was about ten days ago and er there were figures and the er figures of tonnage on one <.>y one beach of cigarette butts was enormous incredible but you know um <{><[>tut <.>i i <.>w this is one reason why i quit the army in the end because i i got fed up with the hypocrisy <[>mm yeah i was in the army back in the sixties and er doesn't matter what ranking you were below sergeant you had to do what they called surrounds tut which meant er it was a fatigue yeah <&>8:00 to keep the place clean er somebody was allocated to er walk around the barracks or what have you tut and pick up all the rubbish yes that was dumped most of the rubbish was cigarette butt ends and matchsticks yeah and i was a <.>corporal corporal at the time and i thought bugger this on principle i refuse to pick up another man's filth <{><[>so i didn't do it and i was to be charged i was to be court martialled if i didn't obey an order <[>yeah is that right <{><[>yeah <[>yep and i thought well if that's your stinking attitude you know where you can stick the army so i'd just ruin a career so you left <{><[>you left the army <[>er oh i lie did what i was told yeah but i made my point and everybody agreed that mm on principle i was dead right nobody should <.>be have to pick up another man's filth <{><[>and it was wrong for a nonsmoker to pick up er smokers' cigarette butts but there was one funny tut side to all this tut er a s c they're the chaps who used to drive the trucks transporting goods around the countryside <[>mm yeah er if they had a load they'd take it up to the <&>9:00 transport park and park it up as they should do mhm well this chap laughs he came <.>t back to the barracks er at linton in <.>that in those days they had a brand new three storey barrack block and he parked alongside the building now there's a couple of hundred of guys sleeping in those barrack blocks <&>pronounced bocks um tut by the barracks and in the morning sniffs er somebody realised there was some smoke around something was on fire and someone had the good fortune to stick their head out the window and have a look mm and there was this truck and trailer unit on <{><[>fire <[>oh no and er so they just gently enquired around you know who's got the truck outside and when they found out there was all panic stations it was loaded with ammunition <{1><[1>laughs and a guy <{2><[2>had put the <[1>oh no <[2>that's the amazing thing about smokers they never seem to think do they <{1><[1>where they throw the cigarette <{2><[2>yeah <[1>they don't <[2>they what the guys used to do they'd have um ashtrays in their rooms mm and instead of putting it in the rubbish bin they'd just open the window and toss it out and this guy that's what he did he tossed his um spent cigarette butts and some of them were <{1><[1>still alight and it fell on top of the <.>on on top of <&>10:00 the canvas er cover on the truck and trailer unit which <.>had was covered in er <{2><[2>well loaded with ammunition <[1>word yeah <[2>exhales yeah tell you what there was panic <{><[>laughs <[>i bet there would be okay trevor well you've started off the ball rolling there by saying smokers are the most untidy people in new zealand now if you're a smoker can you defend that or not um and if you're a nonsmoker and you've got to clean up after er occasions where there is smoking is it as bad as it used to be or have smokers along with er becoming conscious of going outside and so on when there's smoking also improved er their cleanliness habits yes or no give us a call three oh nine three oh double nine and we'll be talking to jerry and to you in just a moment <&>10:46 <&>seventeen minutes twenty one seconds not transcribed comprising the next three callers who all sound british plus commercials and HE's monologue <&>28:07 and er it's <.>jac er no phillipa from nelson then jacob hello phillipa how are you ewing yes <.>wait on one moment just turn the radio down good phillipa you do that don't er remember if you're a first time caller especially to turn your radio down cos er it comes back to you about five six or seven seconds later can be er a bit upsetting when you're trying to talk against it are you there <.>phillip hello phillipa may have <{><[><.>tr <[>are you with me ewing yes i am there phillipa well ewing <&>pronounced lewing you know this PASSive <&>pronounced ASHis smoking mm it's a bit of pain in the neck i started nursing at a very young age yes and a doctor suggested i have a cigarette to go to a post mortem and since that day i've smoked is that <{><[>right do you <[>our doctors used to smoke pipes but i hadn't seen many cancers of the lip i <.>thin i know there <{><[>has been the odd few <[>no would you say it's <.>a it's addictive like er other drugs <&>29:00 addictive it's the biggest addictive drug <&>pronounced as dug drug you could get yeah i mean it takes eighteen months for the nicotine to get out of your system doesn't it that's right yeah but the thing is you know was that er what are they going to do you know ask johnny banks <.>do don't <.>d please don't bring in euthanasia just because we smoke old johnny might say bring in <{><[>euthanasia put them all out <[>laughs yeah that's right so you know i just think let's smoke if we want to smoke i get a bit angry when you go into a restaurant or somewhere for a meal and you've got to sit in a certain place because you have to smoke it's getting so <.>un unacceptable yeah well of <{><[>course <[>you know it's not really fair because we have our rights <{><[>and we're human as other people <[>yeah is it fair though on a person with say asthma if you're sitting next to them and smoking <{><[>that you know can <.>can <.>c <[>no well if they <.>d if they don't want you to sit next to them and smoke they'll go to the table where <.>they where they um can have their um ventolin machine or something and not um you know be worried about the smoke <{><[>won't they <[>but but isn't that the easiest way to have a nonsmoking and smoking sections well i think it's <.>n <.>n NO i think it's rather ignorant <&>30:00 you think so <.>i yes myself i <{><[>do <[><.>wha what do you what did you think of trevor saying that <.>the that smokers are the most untidy people in the world well i think that's a bit of rubbish too that's <{><[>only that's new zealanders <[>where do you where do you where <.>do where do you put your butts well i put my butts in an ashtray <{><[>and if i'm out at other people's <.>pla i never smoke in a person's place that doesn't smoke <[>yeah no none of my family smoke except myself <&>pronounced as meself yeah and i have cut down from a packet of thirty to twenty mm yet sometimes i seem to find a packet of sixty do you know where they come from no no neither do i they just sort of arrive they just arrive you see i say this is gonna be the last cigarette i'll ever <{><[>have and the next day there's another packet in the old pocket <[>laughs laughs fair enough <.>well <.>well well bless you ewing <{><[>and don't dare let johnny banks bring in euthanasia i must speak to him he's my best friend <[>voc all right then <{><[>phillipa <[>righty oh bless you bye and it's twenty three minutes to one oclock jacob hello jacob are you there jacob yeah good morning <{><[>ewing <[>good morning jacob <&>31:00 um voc where laughs what on earth has um voc prompted this smoking business oh <{><[>there is <[>it's been going on all damn day yeah well it of course there's been this er big american report on the ten million who who died i think last year from smoking er ten million americans died from it and it's probably the greatest er greatest killer we've got this has come out in the research done by scientists er in the u s and they've published a new book on it i see <{><[>yes <[>so that's that's i think that's what it must be i <.>d i haven't haven't heard much <{><[><.>radio i haven't heard much radio but i once i opened the lines tonight away they went <[>oh it's just that it's going on it's just going on for is that <{><[>right shall i change it <[>and the question i ask is yeah the question i ask is um if people don't die of smoking what the hell do they die of you know <{><[>um <.>every everybody's got to die sometime <[>um getting run <.>o i'd rather die a bit later than <.>it sooner though laughs <&>32:00 oh yeah but you know people have rung up and said oh you know they've got grandfathers who <.>lived voc lived till ninety <{1><[1>and smoked all their lives <{2><[2>and <[1>a <.>hu hundred <[2>yeah well my father lived till ninety but mate through the last er twenty years of his life it was pretty <.>stroke er a great struggle <{><[>with breathing you know <[>well would you have liked him to live to a hundred and ten or no er i think he stopped smoking at eighty and he <{1><[1>lived to ninety <{2><[2>which he wouldn't've lived to otherwise <[1>oh <[2>yep anyway i yep yeah <.>i i think there are more er greater issues to discuss in in this little <{1><[1>country that we live in than er whether people should smoke or whether they should <{2><[2>not <[1>mm <[2>when when <.>di when did you give up i haven't oh i <{><[>see i thought you were said you had given up <[>i've got a i got a in fact i've got a cigarette i've got a cigarette going right <{><[>now <[>is that right yeah yeah my oath and er i <.>en i enjoy smoking cigarettes <&>32:50 <&>end of side one