<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>3:31 hello hello is that mark or phil er this is mark oh hello mark how are you you've just er yeah i yeah i'm good you've just you just jumped the queue but that's what <{><[>happens on on talkback radio <[>yeah i was quite pleased oh right <{><[>now are <.>y yeah what do you reckon <[>that i didn't have to wait um i was gonna talking about the criminal justice <{><[>bill <[>well let's go for it because it is happening in britain and it is a much more reppressive society britain i think in a lot of ways than new zealand but i think it's still worth considering that things that happen in one country tend to happen in another have you noticed that <&>4:00 it's yeah that's true yeah um i was just ringing up about that in the evening post tonight um they said about the the riots and things that the protestors were protesting <&>pronounced as processing against um other that the law was going to outlaw raves and they defined raves in the evening post as a dancing and drugs party <{><[>but um the actual criminal justice bill doesn't actually mention drugs at all <[>yeah oh no no no <{><[>no no <[>er it's just the music bit of it they don't like like dancing without permission <{><[>they they <[>they don't like they don't like any of it they define a rave as as any gathering outdoors er of a hundred or more people with amplified music and for the first time in the history of the world i think they've defined music in legal terms and that's a repetitive beat through an amplification system or something tut so there's no drugs involved they're just it's the music bit they don't like well they <.>don't they don't like the drugs either and the <{><[>drugs are usually aren't eh <[>no no they got laws for that already so that doesn't matter <{1><[1>word for the first time they've got these laws that people aren't allowed to dance <,> <{2><[2>mm <[1>but yeah okay <[2>yeah it's kind of weird isn't it well <&>5:00 they've tried that before tut have they yeah footloose remember footloose oh that was in that set in that funny little <{><[>gambling town yeah <[>word kick up your sunday goose or <.>something well something like that yeah but you know kevin bacon <{><[>teaches the world to dance <[>yeah that was good do it again yeah i liked it <{><[>um <[>yeah for the kids they're also um er criminal justice bill also outlaws um squatting yeah that's <{1><[1>pretty serious <{2><[2>oh no that's right yeah <[1>yeah <[2>so that puts about several several thousand people out of out of their house as soon as it comes in out on to the street um and also <{1><[1>word sabbing which is hunt sabbing <{2><[2>which is they've got fox hunting over there and people go and try and rescue the foxes and things and stop the hunters getting them and um that's gonna be outlawed it's it's called aggravated trespass <{3><[3>er it's when you trespass on someone's land with the <[1>to survive say what? <[2>oh yeah yeah yeah yeah <[3>aggravated yeah with intent object of stopping them doing something <{1><[1>like like mutilating a fox or whatever they do um and what was the other one <{2><[2>that oh and also they're gonna outlaw protests um that take place within sight of the target <&>6:00 of the protest <,> so <{3><[3>you can have a public protest say in in lambton quay about or not well you can still here but if if it was in new zealand it would mean that you could have protests about motorways in lambton quay <[1>instead of just wanting to wander <.>round <[2>the british are weird man <[3>laughs uh huh but not at the motorway BUT not at the motorway and not at fran wilde's house and not at the council building aha so you can protest but not at within sight of the person that you're trying to argue with i think they have a more bit problem with the protesters over there than we do here yeah um as was seen on the news tonight they have big riots and things <{1><[1>which so they're a wee bit more worried about it <{2><[2>word <[1>exactly <[2>so were you down at were you down at the barricades on er no i live in here i don't live in <,> england no no no for on on for the motorway zoh yeah i was actually were <{><[>you yeah? <[>yeah yeah i i arrived there about twelve we sort of hung around for a while and then went away again and what was your impression um it was <,> it was quite good <.>it you know it was the first one so i think yeah <{><[>yeah <[>there was quite a few people when i get there like helen said just then there was about what did she say about ten people yeah <&>7:00 there was about twenty twenty or thirty when i was there i actually went up the building to transit new zealand and asked them when the meeting finished and they said what meeting and i <{1><[1>said the meeting about the motorway and they said is there a meeting about the motorway and i says yes <{2><[2>have you seen all those people outside protesting and they said oh yeah we saw them we wondered what they were doing <[1>laughs <[2>laughs laughs <{><[>laughs <[>so they didn't actually connect that the people outside with what was happening in their building it's a pretty surreal world <{><[>sometimes <[>yeah so they they couldn't actually tell me when the meeting finished yeah and i i went to the mayor's office after that asking to see her but apparently it takes two weeks you've got to voc you've got to book in to see the mayor yeah that's like a dentist yeah maybe not quite <{><[>as painful <[><.>cheap <.>perhap <.>ch cheaper than the yeah well it's free isn't it free to see the mayor but oh she's she's a busy woman she's got to give <.>ti she got to have time for prepares you know she knows i'm coming she wants to prepare two weeks of course she does oh <.>y have you got an appointment have you no i've lied <&>pronounced as died what do i have to say to her oh i see well you know mm um <&>8:00 face to face maybe i could she bought me a drink once before she was the mayor ah how come well it <.>w it was when um we were doing the rock the quota and she was you know being one of the <{1><[1>labour m ps down with <{2><[2>the side of the quota bill and of course yeah <[1>oh <[2>oh of course <,> yeah i went i went to some of them <{><[>in christchurch um voc what's his graham graham kelly is it <[>yeah yeah m p who <{><[>introduced that he <.>wa he was quite a nice chap <[>yeah yeah oh no <{><[>he's all right he's all right he's he's one of the few labour m ps who increases their majority you know <[>for a politician yeah he was sort of looked like a real human being well he is a real human <.>being i mean they're all <{><[>real human beings <[>well oh i don't know i don't know if he is or not but he looked like one he didn't <{><[>look like plastic man <[>um yeah i i actually met er minister of broadcasting just after that which one was that <.>ma maurice no jonathan hunt oh jonathan hunt oh <{><[>yeah <[>and he was he was plastic like he was um he'd been in the system too long i was i was working for access radio in christchurch and he came in to have his photo opportunity and he had all this stage makeup on for the photo scary and he sort of came in there was this sort of plastic fellow in a suit and he shook my hand and everything and um had this photo <&>9:00 opportunity <.>and and soon as soon as the photo was finished he didn't want to talk to me ever again so off he went all <{><[>right <[>you know he he only wanted me to be in the photo yeah hey we've had er phil waiting for rather a long time now do you think we should talk to him i think we should talk <{><[>to phil <[>i'll go away then okay okay gright <&>blend of great and right? that was mark and things are rolling four seven three eight nine three nine four seven two five two eight six ring us up and talk to us hello phil sorry to keep you waiting tut hi mark yeah i want to talk about the criminal justice and public order bill yeah well that's that's to give it's it's full title when does it go to a vote do you know um i'm i'm not sure i i think it's to be <{1><[1>implemented um sometime this month yeah um but you've really only scratched the surface with <{2><[2>word <[1>a few this this month yeah yeah <[2>i i think we have you perhaps you could dig a little deeper for us tut well there's a stop and search clause in it which enables the police if they believe that in quotes instance of serious violence may take place in any locality end quotes they then they can authorise stop and <&>10:00 searches of pedestrians and vehicles <,> and that's quite handy yeah it is quite handy for them isn't it yep yep and um then there's other clause clauses there's about five of them relating to people living in vehicles living in vehicles yeah these are to <.>dis discourage the so called travellers the gypsies <{><[>renowned in english society for many years and um now they want them out of the way don't they <[>yeah yeah well um at the moment er they the public order act requires people who are trespassing with twelve vehicles or more or who damage properties to leave when requested by the police or face arrest but now um they're going to remove the trespass clause and reduce the number of vehicles to six so that um if even if you've got the permission of the land owner to be on that land um the local authority can request you to leave and <.>arr and you can be arrested by the police if you DON'T and er local authorities' duty to provide sites for a limited number of travellers is abolished <&>11:00 all right so yeah <{><[>it it it <[>all right do you do you ever think that sort of thing could happen here tut well er i hope it doesn't <{1><[1>but it's possible i mean it's sort of it's sort of crept up on everyone in england the opposition tut has come from like wide variety of um groups who um sort of had no <.>for sort of formal networking or er any sort of networking at all and so <{2><[2>it's sort of crept up on them <[1>laughs hope's hope's not good enough yeah <[2>right yeah and i'd noticed today that um all on in the um demonstration against it all the political parties except the conservatives that's what the radio and t v have reported anyway were were present on the march but i mean tut um according to the guardian at the end of august the um none of political parties had taken part in any protests at all against the against the bill at <{1><[1>all so i mean swallows <.>and <.>and <.>and they would have been the ones that would have um known it was coming in in the first place so <{2><[2>and they they seem to be jumping on the bandwagon a bit after it's all gone through trying to um trying to make out that they've they've been against it but they haven't <[1>right <[2>yeah <.>what <.>what <.>what <&>12:00 well that's just politics mate <.>y yeah well and the british are <,> crazy that's what they do hey er we're gonna go to a um thanks thanks for that information that was <{1><[1>excellent and first time caller <{2><[2>yeah? okay good man <[1>yep <[2>cool <&>12:16