<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>3:49 but whether the cup comes south or not will have little effect on the enjoyment of the average weekend yachtie inhales so far from the high tech razzmatazz of san diego what IS the PLEASURE that a plain sailer like bo boyd gets out on the water oh yeah well it's the easy comfortable um no noise ride really you know and er the sheer pleasure <.>of of having a boat <.>that well especially a boat that will GO if you know what to do to make it go <{1><[1>you know that's <.>the one of the boats that I had um that's still IN this district er john dallymore's got it now the old MARu she was a nineteen hundred and three built mullet boat twenty four footer <{2><[2>gas rig <[1>mm <[2><.>n now MULLET boat <.>that <.>the <.>they're they hail <.>f hail from the auckland er <{1><[1>region don't they <{2><[2>yeah specially designed for catching mullet <[1>yes yes <[2>yeah yeah that's right <{><[>shallow water <[>mm yeah with the plate up she um maru was probably about two foot two i think was the draught with the plate up and scratching near eight foot when it was down mm so she she had a fair grip of the water couple of tonne of ballast er six hundred square foot of working sail and she could really go mm REALLY perform it didn't like it when <&>5:00 things got real bad on the nose um cos she <.>was she was carrying too much rag on it you know and it was voc she was a devil to handle especially if you were on your own <{><[>i can tell you <[>too <.>mu too much sail? oh yeah <.>was it was always a job to get it in in time you know mm to shorten up especially if you were like on your own or with just <.>a one other bloke but <.>they when you come off them at the end of the day you certainly knew you'd been somewhere you're bloody exhausted laughs but oh teach you a lot in a short period of time that's for sure yeah yeah but you have a lot of affection for the old <{><[>word <[>OH yeah yeah well um inhales you know <.>i i started doing a bit of <.>s i <.>was when i first came here i was more interested in the launches but um then i started do a bit of sailing with an old bloke called allan furman he's still about <.>a a quarryman of course and needless to say you know if you're a quarryman you have to be a bloody hard case laughs and he WAS and um <,> i can remember one time coming back from <.>a from a holiday that barb and i had <&>6:00 had with him er up on the barrier there one time inhales and er it was a forty two foot victris trimaran anyway we <.>were we were off the wind sailing <.>from from um rosalie bay it was i'd been diving um on the wiltshire and er we were heading down to see some friends of ours in rocky bay sniffs inhales anyway we were steaming along in this old blimmin boat and inhales er was no CONCERN anywhere although probably we should have been um <.>cause she <.>we we had the blimmin windward sponson was WAY UP out of the water and er that's on the edge for that sort of boat well I think it is laughs anyway um i remember it <.>was it must have been doing a good twenty eight thirty two knots thereabouts and i remember us rounding up <.>into to go into rocky bay to meet these friends of ours two or three other boat loads of people there waiting for us to come down inhales and i remember us rounding up to go in there and of course we were gonna tack up into the bay and <.>drop drop anchor like all good yachties <&>7:00 should do laughs and um bugger me days if <.>we we found it too hard on the nose and of course <.>that that type of boat they don't go that well to windward well they don't go too high SHE never used to go very high and um anyway we found ourselves in <.>a sort of in an awkward situation and right in the middle of rocky bay there there's one HELL of a big rock laughs that only just cracks the surface <{1><[1>laughs inhales and um this rock's getting closer so <.>i i manage to <.>grab we had a BIG HEAVY bloody um tut oregon pine spinnaker pole you know laughs and <.>i i was a reasonably sort of a powerful bloke in those days i tossed the end of the spinnaker out and got it on top of the rock laughs and i put the end of it against the belting on this bloody plywood boat you know what plywood boats are like if you get it in the wrong place of course it goes straight bloody through but fortunately it got right on the edge of the belting and this old <.>bloody you've never seen such a bend in a blimmin pole in all your life it <&>squeaky noise and we managed that and there was quite <&>8:00 a swell running too you know and um bit of surf breaking over this rock and the old boat drifted she JUST drifted round and cleared it <{2><[2>laughs but oh he was <.>a he was a dag and er we had a lot of fun with him <{3><[3>laughs <[1>laughs <[2>laughs <[3>laughs bo <.>i i wonder er perhaps last century or years ago anyway there was this whole romance of sail <.>this is that the same KIND of thing on a smaller scale that a YACHTSman gets oh yeah <.>i no doubt <.>i'd i'd agree <.>w HAVE to agree with that er i <.>don't i don't think that the romance has GONE um you <.>got well a lot of people that i know <.>that that are into sail mm um sure it's a <.>different slightly different SORT of sailing <.>in in the respect that you got boats that are sleek <.>and and light and er will GO fast <.>under with lighter winds um just tell me what it's LIKE when you're out there and with <.>a with a good breeze and you've got the sail up well um it's just <.>a a complete feeling of freedom um momentum nice steady through the <&>9:00 water in <.>a in <.>a in a sort of a er in a very sort of stable way you've just got <.>this the WAVES are just slipping away underneath you know as you're sailing along not like in <.>a sort of in a launch when you're moping along and <.>you're you're sort of rolling and pitching a little bit all over the place inhales um <.>there's there's no motor to um well MOTORS drive you NUTS you know mm and er anyway er with sailing all <.>you'll you'll just a slap of the water and the odd bit of spray coming across and <.>a and a bit of whistling in the rigging um that's all you get a very er you know it's a GREAT feeling but it's er it's <.>even it's even a better feeling to my way of thinking at NIGHT yeah is that right <{><[>sailing at night <[>oh yeah well you seem to <{><[>get the impression that <.>you're you're going along a lot quicker than you are and you know <.>it's it's a real buzz <[>mm mm yeah especially if you've got <.>a if you're out maybe in the middle of the murk somewhere and it blown up and you inhales and you've got to shift and you decide to sail um and course <&>10:00 half of you KNOWS where you are and the other half doesn't laughs so you're sniffs and sometimes there's always a bit of doubt to exactly where you are but <.>you <.>r really inside you know and er yeah doing it by the seat of your pants NO instruments nothing mm yeah and that's the way you <{><[>like it <[>good yeah i think the best day <.>we the most enjoyable DAY'S sailing i've EVER had <,> was one day that my brother roe and i went to er up to a regatta in auckland from HERE we er left the whitianga wharf at six in the morning and we were anchored in at the big shoal bay in auckland and at six oclock that evening which is twelve hours sail er was a north easterly wind so we had to beat more or <.>less well we had to get out of the mercury bay area then er hard on the nose all the way up er once we got round through the roller patch there off the cape which is always an interesting place to go inhales um it's <.>never never a <&>11:00 <.>twanq tranquil trip going round there that's for sure and then a BLAST across there especially when the wind picks up in <.>the later on like on a summer's day across there and she's just <.>a whoosh you're there before you know it you know GREAT feeling well here now at mercury bay of course er you've been put on the map a bit by the america's cup yeah it's a good thing SOMEONE in this country's got enough money to get it going eh <{><[>laughs the bloody government'd be hard pressed to find the dough <[>laughs yeah what about about the mercury bay challenge is that er something that you're right behind <{><[>how do you feel about that <[>oh yeah um well i'm right behind it in um <.>in in my head of course but er not in the pocket laughs they haven't got much money out of me to er prop it up that's for <{><[>sure <[>mm it seems funny to ME perhaps as an outSIDER thinking of <.>the <.>the <.>th <.>th the great grandiose new york YACHT club i think there are about three stories and flags and er <{><[>plush velvet and HERE you haven't even got a clubrooms <[>yeah yeah i don't even know what happened to that <&>12:00 bloody zephyr i think the beggars sold it didn't they? zephyr well they had a zephyr car that was the office that was the clubrooms laughs is that right yeah yeah no they've got no establishment whatsoever <{><[>um i think um probably be lucky if they even had a leather briefcase i think you'll find it's probably all <.>the the files just kept in an old cardboard box laughs <[>yeah so i can imagine say if <.>you if you get the cup <,> no clubrooms well i don't know what they're going to do to it er would it fit in <{><[>that zephyr do you reckon <[>with it oh laughs well as i said a minute ago i don't know i think the zephyr's GONE <{><[>laughs <[>mm sold it for a good price YEAH <{><[>i thought <.>every NO everyone wanted to BUY it because it was the bloody america's cup HEADquarters laughs or going to be laughs yeah <[>fifty bucks it could only happen in mercury bay oh i think so yeah but um oh no <.>it'll it'll be interesting to see what happens er there's no doubt that they've got a ninety nine percent chance of bringing it back <.>and I feel anyway you're confident are you well that's <&>13:00 that's a yachtsman's opinion? that's a yachtsman opinion yeah sure yeah yeah if you were trying to sum up the feeling that you get from yachting <.>is is there a phrase is there some kind of um simple way of putting it yeah well i don't know really er er the thing about yachting that I enjoy is not just inhales it doesn't matter whether you get there at eleven oclock or half past one and er when you leave the wharf down here and the wife says to you you know when will you be back and er my <.>al expression has always been well er look love don't watch the clock watch the calendar <{1><[1>laughs and of course you know what <.>she she's really um sort of goes a bit crook when i say that but er <.>she's she should know better by now cause it's i <.>say i give her the same answer every time i leave there <{2><[2>laughs you'd think she'd wake up to it by now <[1>laughs <[2>laughs i thought you might have taken her with you laughs well um er yes a funny thing about that um <.>this this boat we got at the moment's <&>14:00 a motor sailor and it's a bit of a compromise because um inhales er you know i like <.>the well the kids are loving it and um but <.>sh she's not really that keen on sailing mm you know <.>she she WANTS to be part of it but um <,> soon as er the wind starts to whistle a little bit and <.>the she heels over a little bit more and all that sort of situation er leaning too much that's when you know <.>i i guess lots of guys have got wives like that mm inhales um start to you know digging the blimmin toenails into the toe rail and all that sort of thing and start screaming and yelling laughs and then you know <.>you you can't help but raise your voice and tell them to shut up and all that sort of thing and THAT only makes things bloody worse <{><[>laughs yeah <[>laughs yet yet it is <.>a it is a family er sport <{><[>normally isn't it <[>oh yeah yeah <{><[>well there's no doubt about that i mean er if you want to be a selfish arsehole and just spend the <.>r the rest of your OWN life out there well that's okay but what happens when you come <&>15:00 ashore <[>yeah mm find you're not married eh laughs well it doesn't seem to have affected you that way oh yeah there was a bit of a compromise along the way um yeah well barbara knows i enjoy it that much and um she can try and suppress it a LITTLE but um <.>she i think she realises <{><[>she's wasting her bloody time <[>mm <&>15:20 <&>end of interview