<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side two <&>21:50 mister speaker katherine oregan thank you mister speaker what a pathetic speech from the minister absolutely pathetic you ought to be reminded and perhaps the rest of new zealand should know that this member worked for the ministry of <&>22:00 works when the dam was built and now he's one of those junior ministers one of two junior ministers who's going to go and look at er look to see what's happened in the past well for my for my view mister speaker raking over old coals does no good at all especially especially when families are struggling when children are falling by the wayside health services are in a parlous <{1><[1>state and a hundred and forty seven thousand people are unemployed and they're gonna rake up over old coals cos they can't find anything else that's of use to them at the present time mister speaker this country is in crisis in confidence in our social services there is extreme concern at the disintegration of our social fabric the people have lost faith in their social services and they are discouraged to actually even approach anybody these have been caused mister speaker <&>23:00 by the economic problems and unemployment one hundred and forty seven thousand people these are the main causes of social dislocation and all this government wants to do is rake over old coals about a dam mister speaker the second reason why this country is at we're having a crisis in confidence in our social services is because families are left not knowing where to turn for help and that is a dreadful thing and the minister of police should really be worried about these things but i don't really think he is he's much rather er badmouth the police and badmouth other people the worrying about the families of his his own electorate and probably a lot of his people are unemployed in his electorate as well mister speaker the third thing is that labour ministers stand aside as services fall over and i think that is an appalling indictment on this government particularly when there is a crisis <&>24:00 in confidence in our social services the people have lost faith mister speaker in what in their er in their services these days in the area of health in education and certainly in the area of welfare mister speaker every day we get reports of er voc er breakdown in the strands of society's fabric this relates mostly of course mister speaker to unemployment homelessness inadequate education child abuse battered wives sexual offences drunken drivers thieves social welfare opportunists and many others mister speaker and those are the issues that concern most people and this government refuses to even face them the minister of social welfare who of course in his maiden speech suggested that he was proud of the fact that he had a secondary education er paid for by the farmers of canterbury and hawke's bay and then he went on to say i ripped <&>25:00 them off for five years and i shall get stuck into them again in the next few years so that was the minister of social welfare so no doubt that showed up in a in a a press release recently and mister speaker he should be looking at areas of of er need in his own department when in fact he spends twelve thousand dollars twelve thousand dollars sending out sending out a thing called a social welfare update er this is for three months speeches and press statements by the minister of social welfare and the cost of those six hundred and eighty six copies was eleven thousand nine hundred and ninety nine dollars and forty four cents twelve thousand dollars of taxpayers' money surely that could have been used in a far more in a far better fashion mister speaker we are concerned on this side of the crisis in confidence in our social welfare services mister speaker i am terribly concerned in particular in the area of er <&>26:00 intellectually handicapped children and certainly adults perhaps more and those who are in the psychiatric service who are now currently being put into the community according to deinstitutionalisation theories wonderful word that wonderful word now it would be all right it would be all right if there were some places for them to go and in some board areas they are actually doing quite well my own board area isn't doing too badly mister speaker but they're a pretty forward thinking lot but unfortunately mister speaker funding is the problem funding is the problem people find it very difficult to even have any confidence any more in our accident and emergency services they don't know whether they should actually go to a hospital now because they're not sure whether they're going to be received and this is the lack of confidence that people have they've lost faith in the system they've lost faith in the system but those people who are intellectually handicapped or those who are who <&>27:00 have er psychiatric illnesses longterm who's going to really care for them mister speaker in my area they are currently closing probably going to close er the psychiatric unit now these people are going to go out go back to their home areas say gisborne for example there is no psychiatrist in gisborne he or she has just left for further fields and greener fields and there is noone there to look after these people when they return now mister speaker what happens to them do they end up on the streets like they do in the rest of the world this country voc always prided itself on having a fine welfare system a fine health system but this labour government has managed to blow the lot absolutely blow the lot and in fact it is an absolute indictment on them mister speaker the minister of social welfare should be ashamed that he's er overseeing er a situation like it is at the present time we <&>28:00 have a crisis in confidence in our social services and mister speaker it's caused by unemployment and the economic er policies of this government there are waiting lists sixty thousand people on waiting lists and sixty thousand people the member asked how many sixty thousand people mister speaker people out there are extremely angry they are frustrated they are exasperated and they feel that there is nothing left for them at all thanks to this government they have not only lost confidence in them as a government in being able to er er create an environment for businesses to actually survive they have now created a <.>s a society and a and an area an era when people have lost confidence in the social services as well now the minister for health suggested that er she was voc had terrible <&>29:00 concerns in her maiden speech for those who were sick and suffering well i wish she'd take a look and speak to some of her board people and some of the people on the ground in the health area she might find that in fact her policies have done all those things which she didn't really wish to happen but mister speaker people are have lost faith in the government at the present time and it is a sad state of affairs mister speaker they expect the voluntary sector to take all this up but mister speaker the voluntary sector are usually women and they are going back to work because they can't afford they've got to have two pay packets in the household these days and so women are going back to work we find that we haven't the volunteers any more and so where are all these people on community care going to go take the the er the prisoners coming out of prison where's the pas and the rest of them mister speaker those voluntary workers are not <&>30:00 there any more and it is a certainly an indictment on this government mister speaker look at education as well how many young women are going to be disadvantaged by this government's <.>acti activities and now they're going to charge for correspondence courses as well mister speaker this government has a lot to answer for and it's time they <.>t were taken to account and people cannot wait cannot wait until october to throw them out where they should belong back over on this side of the house mister speaker in the area of health again mister speaker the government has prevented cervical screening programmes but however clears throat that was bungled from the very beginning and i'm still not sure whether it's actually achieving anything and i think it's time that perhaps they asked themselves some questions also on this area mammography screening cancer cancer of the <&>31:00 breast kills more women than <.>cer cervical cancer but they've done nothing absolutely nothing in this area i'd like to hear member can stand up on his feet and tell us this mister speaker maternity care they have taken <.>o they have taken up the philosophy of pushing women out early after birthing <{2><[2>mister speaker that is an absolute i think that is a an absolute crime because what is happening is that women are going home early we're finding that there's a <.>c a confidence er loss if you like er at that time when women who are under plunket <.>nur services are finding those services <.>cutting being cut away the government still hasn't funded the plunket society with an extra two million dollars which would certainly help them service <.>b serve those women who need that care but mister speaker the thing is that there is crisis in confidence in our social services <.>there they are caused by economic <&>32:00 problems by unemployment which is the main cause in our view of the social dislocation families are left not knowing where to turn for help and labour ministers just stand aside as services fall over and we on this side of the house think that is an appalling state of affairs and it's time they addressed those issues instead of raking up old coals about dams they want to get on and look at their social policy what about the royal commission no we're not even going to look at that five million dollars just tossed away just tossed away used as a doorstop by i think by the member for palmerston north mister speaker it is time this government actually addressed those issues we have a crisis in confidence in our welfare system and it is time the government took its head out of underneath the sheets and had a look to see what was really happening that the minister of social welfare got out and actually talked to people in the street talked to some street kids go out and <&>33:00 see what's happening in the community and the minister for health ought to speak to the pharmacists and certainly to the board of health <.>peo to the area health board er managers and others mister speaker this government is a sham <[1>order <[2>order mister speaker the honorable richard prebble yeah the mister speaker it ill behoves the member for waipa to get up and shed crocodile tears and to say to the country as i heard her i took it down <.>th that this government was responsible for er breakups of families and i do not accept that that is a charge that she can place against us mister speaker but the but the member then went on to proceed er to do a wallow through the various social er spending programmes and to suggest to the house that a national government er would spend more which of course contrasts totally contrasts totally <&>34:00 with the member for selwyn who has us believe that a national government would somehow er spend less and indeed the member the member failed to give us a single policy suggestion of what a national government would do but what she did say was that the social policies of this government had failed and she followed the er member for ashburton the member who started off her speech by saying that she was inexperienced and that member made her attack on the children's and young person's and their families er act <&>34:38 <&>side two ends