<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>0:07 something which includes consideration of victims <,> and we have already introduced a labour's victims of offences act a review of the bail law is on this year's legislative agenda and victims are in fact considered when dealt with when the offenders are dealt with by the court the longterm strategies proposed by the member for rotorua include parental responsibility and the question that must be asked mister speaker are who's to judge the parent's neglected responsibility who is to say whether or not it is the parent that is responsible or whether it is the wayward child <&>1:00 where is where is this to be <,> policed HOW is it to be policed are there to be state agents set up is there to be a thought police set up such infringement on the privacy of the family and their home will not wash <,> with most people and certainly it will not wash with new zealanders further mister speaker we then have the suggestion that education in the prisons something which already this party is doing will be part of the national policy but i turn more especially mister speaker er to the member for whangarei this is the member who broke rank with his own leader er last week er when he suggested an <.>a a continuation of the industrial strife by <&>2:00 the prison officers mister speaker that demonstrates clearly to this country that the leader of the opposition is not able to control and to discipline his own members it should have been important for him to have said that that is not on and to have dealt with the member for whangarei but no it was not done the member for whangarei has still in his mind the belief that the industrial strife that the police were supporting that the prison officers were carrying out was the right and correct thing there has been no retraction no no chance of taking that back no <,> answer to his own leader saying you're wrong his answer has been you're wrong i'm right mister speaker i believe that that <&>3:00 demonstrates once and for all that the leader of the opposition is not in a position to lead this country when he can't discipline his own member for whangarei now mister speaker the member for whangarei is famous for his various forays into the field of law and order such thing as wanting to arm the police that which the police commissioner himself has decried and turned down and has said no to hey order something which his own his own colleague the member for hobson has said the police do not need to be armed <,,> the next one is his attacks on the courts he has complained that the courts are being soft they are not handing out the sentences that <&>4:00 they should and he again says yes that is correct the fact has been that there is a division a separation of powers thank goodness between the legislative and the judiciary and that must remain the last country the last country where that became a great issue was queensland queensland where the incoming leader of the government was asked did he believe in the separation of powers flubbed the question flubbed the answer was unable to <,> acknowledge that there should be a separation of powers and he went down to a crushing defeat in the election not so long ago mister speaker that is important that there be a separation of powers that the legislative and the judicial <&>5:00 arms should remain separated and distant from each other it is not appropriate that members of this house attack particularly when it is the nature of a personal attack on members of the judiciary there can be there can be a reference to the adequacy of the sentence and that has that has been accepted and that is accepted by the courts but there there is an appropriate way of that being dealt with either by appeals to an upper court or appeals by the solicitor general those have been dealt with that is the way to deal with it there have been today the announcements made on those <.>wh serious white collar crimes where there has been an increase in the penalty from eighteen months imprisonment to four years now that is that is the apPROpriate way <.>an but what do we here from the member for <&>6:00 whangarei he's going to continue his attacks perhaps it might be appropriate that he should that he should acknowledge that the court of appeal that the court of appeal has done the right thing by increasing that penalty to four years just something POSitive might in fact be an appropriate response from the minister er for whangarei <,> mister speaker mister speaker the <{><[>member for hobson <[>the member's er order the member's time has expired point of order mister speaker point of order yeah point of order paul east point of order mister speaker we now have our next er opposition speaker from this side of the debate ready to take the call so i just wanted to get that absolutely clarified of course he is <{><[><.>re restrained by his crutches <[>yes well that er that's not a point of order well i wanted to make sure not a point of order john banks thank you mister speaker i want to tell this government that i caught a taxi at the <&>7:00 wellington airport the other day and i was picked up by a maori man <,,> good wholesome kiwi taxi driver he didn't say much until we got to the freyberg pool when he said you know something mister banks <,> it doesn't matter what this government does or what this government says the peoples don't want them no more <,> quote unquote the people don't want this government no more and tony steel the national party candidate in the east hamilton seat the former all black the eminent high school principal sir the outstanding individual from that city hamilton will take that man's seat he'll be here and peter hilt peter hilt <&>8:00 he outstanding businessman sir former police officer a great man absolutely committed absolutely working every hour of his waking day to railroad the member for glenfield right out of her seat right out of her seat and ian revell sir another outstanding aucklander selected on monday night to take the burke out of birkenhead and she's gone and she's gone and the birkenhead member has gone because the polls in birkenhead tell us that we are twenty one points ahead twenty one points ahead so birkenhead is back school teaching glenfield is back school teaching and my old friend from <&>9:00 hamilton east sir is back looking for a job at the law and he's welcome to it because we're going to get strong people true new zealanders tough new zealanders principled aucklanders in the seat for glenfield and in the seat for birkenhead and sir the sunday newspaper said it all on sunday last it is hard to tell whether the country's being run by a government or a cash and carry outfit a cash and carry outfit the mad panic over selling telecom and state insurance is getting so undignified the government may well borrow deka's red tag sales banners and slap them around the place hurry get your state assets now knock down prices all stocks must go <&>10:00 before the end of the financial year a real budget buster the latest burst of selling the family silver could be unkindly described as the government's closing down sale this government is in the process of closing down and my friend the eminent barrister from rotorua tells this parliament and the people that under the polls at the moment who will we have <,> the four useless members for the maori seats the member for auckland central and the member for for mangere that's all they'll have six in the house six in the house sir we are going to decimate this people because this government is evil this government is evil this is the government that legalises sodomy for sixteen <&>11:00 year olds and wants to ban tobacco advertising cause it's bad for your health cause it's bad for your health oh my god sir the first responsibility of any government is the security of its citizens and we've learnt today from <.>th from general mace new zealand's most senior military officer and he admitted sir to mister andrew stone a foremost journalist from the herald that morale problems inside the army are a certain threat to this country the chief of defence staff lieutenant general john mace has laid out his concerns in the ministry of defence report for the six months to december the thirty first this is in the auckland herald this morning <&>12:00 in a candid passage for a serving officer general mace says the level of operational readiness within new zealand land forces is satisfactory for very low levels response to short duration activities no security no national defence no security on the streets people are terrified in their homes at night and feel the need to barricade them and are frightened to walk the streets by day because the criminals have hijacked the streets of metropolitan new zealand sir this is a government that is bankrupt this is a government that's sending it's sending its marginal seat members and the member for papatoetoe he's gone because alan brewster the former mayor of <{><[>papatoetoe is some twenty points ahead <[>order order order <&>13:00 some twenty points ahead and he can shout because he's only spoken in this parliament for less than ten minutes in the last six months he doesn't speak in parliament he moves notices of motions to close down debates but he doesn't get an opportunity to speak i want the member for birkenhead to tell the people of birkenhead how many times she has spoken in parliament in the last twelve months because i'll tell the people because she has spoken four times including two closures how many times has the member for glenfield spoken in the house she's spoken in the house sixty five times <,> because she's moved sixty four closure motions <,,> that's her contribution to this parliament sir that's her contribution and she is photographed in the north shore times advertiser before the <&>14:00 nineteen eighty four election saying to a mister and missus kaipis of glenfield <,,> the next labour government will not interfere with your superannuation within six weeks of arriving here in the house the member for glenfield was lobby fodder moving that pernicious surcharge on the elderly of this country sir the police cannot cope the defence cannot cope <,> every community centre has been punished <,> and or viciously assaulted and attacked by this government sir the elderly have been attacked with the surcharge the war veterans have been attacked by lowering their pension the sick have been attacked because they can't get lifesaving drugs farmers have been attacked the <&>15:00 backbone of the country schoolteachers have been attacked nurses have been verbally assaulted by various cabinet ministers the prime minister and this government doctors the police were told in this parliament two saturdays ago that they were nothing but cheats and liars <,> an outrageous statement made by the minister of police about the best police force in the world at a time when politicians are respected by no more than four percent of this public because politicians cheat too much politicians tell lies too much they deceive too many people sir and they are a dishonest breed of animal in this country today and honesty and politics will be a major issue at the next election <,> because sir if there was a poll for honesty if there was a poll <&>16:00 for decency if there was a poll for integrity if there was a poll for sincerity james bolger from the te kuiti electorate sir of the king country and the next prime minister would be tops he's never cheated anyone he doesn't tell lies he only has one wife sir and he's a true family man that we can be proud of sir and he will never he will never be given the companion of honour for abandoning his wife and kids because his nature sir is that <.>e he it truly is a decent new zealander sir this is the most nasty this is the most vindictive this is the most conceited this is the most arrogant pack of political heathens ever voted into office in the western <&>17:00 world sir it is a thoroughly thoroughly bad government and i say take the country out of its misery call an election go go back to the law practices go back to the classroom go back to the farm go anywhere but go from parliament sir this government is bad this government is evil evil sir and this government is going to get the message on election day because they are fighting for third place with the don't knows don't cares and totally depressed people of this country sir we have seen useless representation by members of the back bench like the member for birkenhead who's spoke in this house no more than two times in the last <&>18:00 six months like the member for glenfield whose only contribution sir is constant interjections and i say that ian revell is going to relieve you of your misery birkenhead and peter hilt will take out the seat of <{><[>glenfield <[>the honourable bevan butcher <&>18:19