<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>2:42 how did you get <.>on you were at school last year were you oh no this you know quite a few years ago <{><[>kind of thing <[>right right <{><[>so are you coming in as special admission or <[>er um yeah i think that's what it is i was actually at varsity last year for <{1><[1>about two months but at that stage i was working as a musician and journalist and and <{2><[2>that just clashed and er and i withdrew from every course except for english <{3><[3>um and i ended up getting a fail for that <&>3:00 even though i got good marks when i WAS er <.>during at the course <{4><[4>but i i didn't um withdraw from it because i ended <{5><[5>up going overseas and forgetting about it so yeah <[1>yes <[2>oh right <[3>yes <[4>yeah <[5>oh what a pity tut oh that was a pity to get a fail when you hadn't really failed yeah well <{><[>exactly yeah <[>yeah well hang on to your essays and so forth and explain to your tutor what happened yeah and you might be able to get some credit carried over from the year before right tut um you know er <.>i and not do again some of the work you've already done oh i don't mind doing it <{><[>again <[>yeah <{><[>right but even so you might want to speak to your tutor about that <[>yeah right now somewhere i have seen a list of courses <&>4:00 tut with the <,,><&>3 um criteria <,,><&>4 right here we are and it was sociology one oh one <,> hundred level courses <,,> it says <,> for most arts one hundred level courses a standard set of selection criteria has been devised these will be implemented in different ways according to whether the student is NEW to university or returning mm <,> i asked them <.>a about my status and my status is is er <,> is essentially like <.>i i'm new to university it's my first <{><[>year <[>yes yes and because i didn't like carry through any course last year so i'm not like returning i don't think yes yeah and er and i asked whether the um fail um the first half of um <{><[>of english would make any difference and and i was told no it wouldn't make any difference <[>yes mm yes you're <.>in you are um <&>next utterance addressed to a third person who has come into the room hello do you need to see me yep you are really quite an unusual case aren't you um <,,> are <.>you sorry do you mind my asking your age <&>5:00 twenty two it says here with um a returning <.>e in <.>a um <,,> well tut in the first case that of first year students <,> their criteria will overlap with those used to determine enrolment for the b a but in fact you're not in that category exactly <{><[>but just imagine you were well it says here that is preference will be given to mature students of twenty five and OVER while students under twenty five will be assessed on the basis of their school records and or record of nonuniversity tertiary study <[>right the thing is my school records are are uniformly excellent so yeah well <{><[>maybe they thought that you <[>so i i can't really i can't work it out at all well you see if they'd looked at you as a RETURNING student well it <{><[>says here in the case of returning students the criterion of academic MERIT will be judged on the student's performance at university <[>mm right tut so you could be suffering <,,> <.>on because of your <.>lash of last year <&>6:00 right tut and um <{><[>that looks to me as if you are <[>but <.>i when <.>i when i when i asked about that they <.>as they they said oh no that won't make any difference so er mm i i don't know how <{><[>i mean it's <[>did they give you any <.>h any hope well <.>w when i rang the um <.>so <.>sociolog um mitchell craig whatever his name <{1><[1>is <.>h he um i asked him about it and he he was just completely vague because <.>he it probably wasn't him that was sorting through the you know <{2><[2>the selection criteria it was probably someone else <{3><[3>oh well it would have been someone else and and the um he sort of sounded sort of pretty vague and waffley and said oh <.>w <.>w i'll see what i can do with um er that was that was it <,> er i just hope that he has seen what he can do <[1>mm <[2>yes <[3>yes have you been to the sociology department actually been to them no not in person <,> not yet because i was going to come here first because it was said on the <{><[>form <[>mm i don't know <.>whether i don't want to make furious when they're so busy by ringing them up but maybe i should <,,><&>3 and you're hoping to do a full year's load right so you've got <{><[>to find quite a lot of courses yet mm what else did you take last year <[>yeah <&>7:00 oh what did i take last year um <,> <.>eng there's english politics <,> um and er religion <,> <{><[><.>i <[>and you don't want to take those other <{><[>ones again <[>well what did i i i didn't want to do those courses cos <.>i i was i was one day late in my preenrolment and for the er for the privilege of getting into courses that i really didn't want to do they charged me a lot of money and you know i end up doing tedious courses <,,> <{><[>yeah <[>so you've got to find so you <{><[>don't want to do the courses that you enrolled in last year but didn't do right <[>so <.>i yeah yeah and which i didn't really want to enrol in in the first place because um i had no choice cos i was a day late in my preenrolment this year you were <{1><[1>a day late last year and you only did those courses for practical i mean for for circumstantial reasons <{2><[2>or <&>8:00 something <[1>tut last year <[2>circumstantial reasons yeah oh i see right well let's just see yeah i i don't want a repeat of last year sociology <,> right <,> five three nine seven <&>8:06 <&>SA makes a telephone call to the sociology department <&>12:24 well it sounds like um like they really <.>ha it's a very genuinely a waiting list right so um and i i couldn't get any sense myself yeah i mean i think he he didn't know himself quite <{1><[1>honestly he'll have to wait until he gets all his information <{2><[2>to start making decisions at least you're ON that list <[1>right <[2>yeah right but you're going to have to think about <.>what and i've tried to get through you know the point that you want <{1><[1>to make so hope that helps but the thing is <,> tut <{2><[2>you are going to have to find some other courses <,> do <{3><[3>you want to go and talk to to um doctor bennet about the art history <&>13:00 <[1>yeah <[2>coughs <[3>well mm <{><[>well i i i <.>just <[>and find out whether that rumour is true yeah i wouldn't mind doing <.>th um six credits of it and then i have to find another six credits to fill up with the thing is i don't know whether it's worth my while um enrolling in a course which er um i might not need to get into because i will be accepted into sociology after all i mean that's right i think <{><[>that it <[><.>a and and and and like stuffing some other um <,> er lecturer around you know um no this is just the way it is i <{1><[1>don't think you have to feel bad about that i think what you've got to <{2><[2>do is first of all find out whether you can be either accepted or waitlisted for the one of the art history courses find out whether that's true or not <[1>right <[2>coughs right then you need to come back to me <{><[>and we need to look through at the courses which still have room <[>coughs right right um <{><[>and <[>so so the thing is i <.>li <.>i like um i don't want to end up in a whole lot of <,> dreary courses i REALLY don't want to do and i'm PAYING <{1><[1>er the university to to do what i don't want to do i mean <{2><[2>it it it's just illogical it's stupid yeah um mm <[1>yes <[2>yes that's no good is it yeah yeah yes <&>14:00 that's right although <.>i that's what i think you must do first of all get this straight find out about this and then come back and see me again <{1><[1>in a few minutes okay and then i'll just be here <{2><[2>waiting for you <[1>right <[2>oh <.>whe where's the art history department oh it's just round the corner here you don't have to go on <.>a i wouldn't be sending you all round the <{><[>campus sorry look i'll come and i'll show you <&>14:18 <&>A and B leave room <&>17:12 <[>oh right tut so you're interested in the social sciences right yeah but not social policy so that's <.>n definitely not an option <.>that's <,,> um have you seen this list here oh no yes <,> places available in one hundred <.>level oh these are SCIENCE courses <,,> one hundred level courses with spare <&>telephone rings places <,> have you had a look at this list no i haven't even seen it <,,><&>5 have a look at that and have a look at the <&>18:00 SCIENCE courses next to it <,,> um <,,><&>4 tut you see what you could do <,,> is <,,> you want really to be enrolled for thirty six credits right yeah <,,><&>4 why does it just <.>have it only has twelve here have they limited you to twelve because of your last year's performance <{><[>word <[>oh no they've only <.>l they've <.>g only got twelve credits i wasn't accepted for <{><[>i was <[>yeah right <{><[>yeah <[>so that's all they've <.>th they've tallied up yeah right okay well have a look through those lists and in the mean time i'll just have a <,> word to our next customer <&>18:48 <&>A talks with next person waiting <&>24:06 yeah this is the sort of list i was expecting voc i'm not interested in any of it really <&>sighs mm <,> <{><[>at all <[>what are we going to do eh <,,><&>3 what are we going to do well i don't know <,> i mean <.>i i could bore <{1><[1>myself <,> silly you know <,> doing something like new zealand history <,> for a whole <{2><[2>year just to sort of fill in a <{3><[3>blank but i don't really want to do that <,,> <[1>mm <[2>mm <[3>yeah are you sure it would be boring well i mean i've read i've um read books on new zealand history and i don't find it particularly colourful tut who's teaching it <,> tut i don't suppose it'll have the names up here <,,> er um world music could be interesting <,> and so could new zealand music but but they're both sort of second year courses and wouldn't that be like a heavy work load at the end of the year which is not really <.>the a good time of <{><[>year word <[>they're second half year courses <&>25:00 yeah but <.>i i'm actually interested in world music are they six or twelve <,> <{><[>credits <[>er well it's second half of the year so it'll be six credits i suppose well you're going to need ONE second half year <,> further course anyway aren't you yeah <,> so that would give you six of what you need and er <.>new new zealand music could be interesting but i mean it depends what sort of angle they have on new zealand music and how do they er define music <,> <{1><[1>i mean <.>i <.>i is <.>it is it going to be the sort of academicised sort of voc <.>s serialistic sort of um stuff which only gets played to <{2><[2>university students or is <.>it <[1>yeah <[2><.>i i honestly don't know um <.>i i honestly don't know but i um my husband's in the music department and i'd be quite happy to ring him up and ask him for <{><[>you <[>mm <.>co cos <.>i i'm interested in some of the sort of new zealand music that gets done but <.>a a lot of it i just just find really tedious mm you know <.>a all the academicised stuff i find pretty tedious it's sterile but it's actually <{><[><.>just <[>now you're in music you've done musical things yourself <{><[>right <[>yeah i have yeah <&>26:00 well at least there there would be a genuine sort of um <,,><&>3 <.>i it makes it a bit better than just choosing a course because it's a course that's open still <{><[>to students <[>yeah well i i i'm really interested in music but i'm <{1><[1>interested in lot of experimental sort of <{2><[2>um <,> sort of music but um <,> tut a lot of the experimental music that gets produced in new zealand is just really really boring there's not much imagination or sort of <,> um force to it there just seems to be this sort of like you know word serialism <{3><[3>really sort of arbitrary um tedium <[1>yeah <[2>yeah <[3>mm well look i'll just give patrick a ring and see what <,,> he might not be there but <&>26:36 <&>SA and then CB talks to SA's husband on the telephone <&>29:06 oh yeah <,,> well i really don't have <.>any many much option really you know <.>a and i'm interested in music so i might as well do those two <,,> the only thing i'm worried about though is is <.>that is that i just create a bit of a work load towards the end of the year and they're both second half yeah yes i think that would be a pity <,,><&>5 tut um <,> just imagine you get into the sociology course <,> that's twelve credits right <,> it's twelve twenty four <{><[>that would give you <[>yeah yeah i i really want to get in that course because i i've been studying um sociology sort of independently of any <.>ac academic course for um for ages yeah and and i mean it's um <.>one one of my um flatmate did it um last year and i've been using all his text books to sort of study the specific <{1><[1>stuff that gets studied here and <.>i and i was really very keen to get into it er and then i'd be very annoyed if i didn't because <.>i i don't see why i SHOULDN'T <{2><[2>basically yeah <&>30:00 <[1>yeah <[2>yeah well <,,> the trouble is it's not in my hands but i'm just trying to think if you do get into it you're very keen to get into it so let's sort of imagine the best scenario you get <{><[>into that and you get english one oh five <[>right right you need twelve credits now the best way to do them is NOT to have <{><[>suddenly twelve more <[>word yeah stuck on in the second half <{><[>year <[>that's right yeah <&>30:30