<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>3:21 this um <,> is what she wanted us to look at before she comes down whether we think it's too much for fifth formers to do the watching AND their er formal letter test in the same week <,> that's what apparently what they will be having they'll have now let me see the fifth form watching's on the twenty fifth that's week four <,,><&>3 athletic sports fifth form watching word <,> and and that's the week we put down for <,> our first common test too much? say it again if you have a look at this form five formal <&>4:00 letter test and form five watching because the athletic sports is <{><[>next week <[>coughs yeah i'd like to do away with the voc the athletics <.>spor <,> because i've prepared them to sit i mean that's what <{><[>they're working on at the moment <[>yes mm and <.>i that'd be rushing to prepare them for the the WATCHING test although all you need to do is give them the outline of what they have to do isn't it yeah i'd quite like to have done some exercises <&>plane flies overhead through next section first word well yeah the only thing worrying me though i thought at first i thought two assessments in one week is a bit much yeah but watching they can do at home and they've had oh mine have been i gave them a whole lot of preparation for their formal letter test but they don't have to um really swot for it just really sit it <,> and i'd really like to get the formal letter out of the way and start with that huge huge topic i agree so what are you saying you <{><[>don't think <[>i think we should <.>i i think they should stay the same just do both <&>5:00 do both yes <.>r rather than <,> but if <.>y you know if people think it's <{><[>too much for them <[>word <,,><&>3 what do you think julia do you tut well i i'd personally like to um put the watching the week after cos i've done no prep at all with them i've been working on on writing skills most of the time what prep do they need well just so they can have a few exercises <&>plane flies overhead about what they need to do for it mm <,,><&>3 but what would they watch that they word word word gets it out of the way for the year though doesn't it they only need one other watching assessment word mind you it's always the way when you've got something else that's a watching thing isn't there a concert or something on next week no <{><[>for the junior <[>word is that for the juniors yes word <{><[>word <[>it's miles too early <{><[>she was going to make a decision <[>mm well <{1><[1>what what else comes up well there's always that thing at easter isn't there <&>6:00 they that word one laughs that might be word <{2><[2>word top town yes <[1>yeah <[2>the top town yeah well a lot of them <,,> are not there good to have something like top town ones who didn't go to the athletic sports isn't it mm for them to do their watching actually that would be quite a good thing to do wouldn't it <,> miss out on one do the other <,> but <.>th then yeah yeah that's why i need to give them that queue thing word mm <,> well <.>th are you suggesting or is rhona suggesting that we actually drop <{><[>something <[>rhona suggested we look at it <,> cos she didn't realise they'd both be in the same week that we planned to have the letter test in the fourth week <,,> so SHE must have thought that people might think it was too much it's week three this week isn't it week three this week week four is next week mm well then mm if we want to move one it's which one we move isn't it it'd be the letter wouldn't it so we don't so we can still use the athletic sports <,,> <{><[>well <&>7:00 <[>mm i i really would like to get the letter i mean my kids we've done it we did it a while ago anyway and it drags on and on and i think i i think we'd all like to get the formal letter over with i would <{1><[1>too cos i'm marking it and i <{2><[2>i've got my university studies start <{3><[3>in march and then i've got an assignment due so i mean i mean i'd prefer to keep it that that that thing week four i've <{4><[4>built my kids up to it i've said to <{5><[5>them it's next week and i don't think we should change it at this late stage unless you've got a really good reason to word <[1>mm <[2>mm <[3>mm oh yes mm <[4>yes <[5>mm yes <,> i think that um one is homework one is watching of the sports and doing it for homework isn't it <{><[>the other one they just go into the room and do it <[>mm mm and um and and as far as teachers go um <.>a apart from that there's only the one to mark <{><[>isn't it <[>mm yeah we only have to mark the one yeah you have to mark two in one week <,> yeah because we couldn't word laughs well yeah it's not difficult to mark that formal letter it's just quantity <{><[>mostly because it's fairly structured about what you're giving the marks for <[>mm <&>8:00 mm same thing with watching if they've done it they've done it if they haven't they haven't <,,><&>3 i'd sooner move watching word we move the watching you <{><[>really do want to move it you can't bear having it on the same week <[><.>w well it's not it's just that it sort of it always comes up i'd sooner have <,> warning mm i'm not really ready cos i would like to spend some time doing exercises and i kind of <{><[>think there might be some something else that's likely to come up that we could get them to do even if it's oh speeches that's probably all right word um <[>mm well we've got to have one other <{><[>test <[>when are the athletic sports they're march aren't they the athletic <{><[>sports are next week and on tuesday <[>no no it's tuesday oh next <{><[>tuesday <[>yeah because week <{1><[1>four athletic sports and formal letter test next week <{2><[2>yeah see what i <{3><[3>next tuesday if it's fine <{4><[4>mm <,,> so <[1>i thought they were in march <[2>word <[3>word <[4>gosh <&>footsteps in background three seconds we don't see them wednesday <{><[>word one two <,,><&>3 three <[>no i i'm <&>9:00 going to be a bit pushed for time because i promised to show the kids a film tomorrow and then i've got <,,> oh well that's no problem cos they could er do the test at the end of the week <,,> do it on monday mm you just want the formal letter test by the weekend <{><[>don't you word well i mean i'd like to leave it like that and get everything out of the way you don't want to <,,> <[>mm reject oh it doesn't really have any relevance it probably <{><[>is better mm <[>word mm <{><[>well rhona can <[>yeah word word word well <{><[>word word mm <[>mm but is there anything else there she said just to look at this and then because um she might have to see if there's anything else that clashed or <,> form five reading test in week six form six novel starts <,> reports issued to staff at the end of week six towards the end <,,><&>3 there's nothing here <&>10:00 <&>loud footsteps through rest of utterance about the um <,> junior school and i asked i asked rhona whether we WOULD be able to start our um fourth form novels which we're due to start in a couple of weeks aren't we mm a bit more word um <&>footsteps during parts of next speaker's turn classroom reading <,,> and she said that er <,,> that we'd have to go over to the book room and see what's there and whether we all <,> do a different book novels at the same time so <,> so term one programme attached please peruse for any amendments additions needed anyone want word amendments no junior programmes how are they going planning their next units well i'd just like to give my opinion i <&>footsteps through rest of utterance don't like the rebel mm as a topic <,,><&>4 no this is the term one thing that we yeah especially <&>11:00 we're down to this now mm yeah well you know how we're trying to implement this new discipline thing i just think it's an an inappropriate time of year especially <,> because um it actually gives kids license to view their opinions on certain issues mm <,,> um <,,><&>3 yeah maybe the thing with it is <,> if there's something about theme you know if if it comes out of you it seems to be much more successful <{><[>word but if it doesn't it's a failure but but you know it could be like the sixth form where you word we could say we'll all going to do a theme at the moment <[>mm mm but what we need to do is decide what our assessments are and that's in general like we do with the er <,> sixth form <,> and then leave it up to us cos <{1><[1>personally i've i've felt much more comfortable NOW doing the the er say music theme it's not that <{2><[2>the rebel is a bad unit it's just not my unit <&>12:00 <[1>mm <[2>mm what i really do like about it though is is having the viewing test and being able to build up to that and being able to show them the film and discuss film technique and tell them they're having a test and they're responding well to that and they really listened when we talked about the terms and i think they feel sort of secure that they've got a structure for their first unit they feel i think they feel that i'm sort of taking them somewhere mm even though i don't really like the theme i <.>don i don't think we have enough material that suited me in it but that's what i mean <{1><[1>we could still do that if if <{2><[2>that word when we've done the er film technique <{3><[3>with the sixth form <[1>mm <[2>yes <[3>mm we could couldn't we couldn't we it's just that <{><[>we have to <[>change the theme yeah we'd just have <{1><[1>choose the theme <{2><[2>that we <{3><[3>word <[1>yes <[2>follow <[3>do our OWN theme and do a viewing test as you say decide on the assessments and just do our own theme <{><[>yes <[>yeah and because we've got three <.>y you know have three or four themes <{><[>word <[>mm <{1><[1>the other thing the other thing is anna knows how i feel i feel that <,> kingi's story is inappropriate for this level as a viewing <&>13:00 test <,,> <{2><[2>it's just my personal opinion and i don't feel comfortable showing it at this level <[1>yes <[2>yeah mm <,,><&>3 kevin you haven't seen it have you no word you've got a fourth form yes it's about a <.>it <.>it it a fifteen year old maori boy in prison <,> and he thinks back to what led to his arrest well winners and losers is like that word yeah it's got a lot of swear words in it like er so has this one <,> word you mean the the one about the mushroom farm yes yeah well directed too i think kingi's story is rawer and more emotional is it and it's not funny it's um well it is mm you know there's a lot of good technique do you think it's better at fifth form level yeah i do um i would feel happier showing it to an older age group <{><[>mm <[>i'd sooner have to show it to a fifth form yeah i agree or even the sixth form because it's got a good montage <{><[>shot in it <[>yes yes <,> yeah and the themes are very <,,> um useful aren't they <&>14:00 yes it is pretty good when you put it together with er one of the boys that poem <,> <{><[>about the kid who <,> rebelled oh well lets put it in then <[>mm yeah mm so in in that case we need another viewing test don't we oh <.>m julia hasn't refused to give it have you i mean you're just expressing an opinion <{><[>word refuse to give it <[>yeah i am expressing no i don't sort of vehemently refuse but i <.>f i feel uncomfortable showing it if we <{><[>give it this year then we can't give it to next year's fifth form then can we <[>word no we either do it and try it but that means another two years or what else have we got word exhales well i've already shown it we've actually got very little in the way of fifth form <{><[>stuff haven't we <[>mm <&>14:45