<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>12:20 so that's a possible place are there any other possible places you can suggest for ME cos i <.>un unless we go up a storey which i said to the board last night might be a solution um what else <.>d do we have in i don't think we have a room and it should be i mean i think the act suggests we set aside a designated place <{><[>and that i understand there's a problem with that there <,,><&>3 <[>coughs the act says doesn't it that you must have an area for your smokers you must have an area for your nonsmokers now i know at john's office and <&>13:00 of course it's a big place their nonsmokers have morning tea first and their smokers have morning tea second they've <{1><[1>had to put it into two sittings if you wish to go and have morning tea with your smokers you're welcome <,> but they were that was the only way they could overcome it and <{2><[2>that's hopeless you couldn't do that here during <{3><[3>mornings or lunchtimes <[1>right word <[2>mm <[3>it's a good solution <,> i think it's nice for staff to be all together and obviously a certain amount of tolerance is essential especially with a staff that's this small yes oh yes yes yeah well if i was the only smoker i really wouldn't want to go out the front on my own to have a fag but as a former smoker i'm probably the last person to make a comment i do remember us discussing this um interval one i'd forgotten that was on that that what was that one going for a walk <{1><[1>no <{2><[2><,> at interval <[1>word during interval <[2>no yeah oh i remember that now there was quite a lot of <&>14:00 discussion on it on that at the time all right word laughs aren't these useful documents i'd completely forgotten that <{><[>too <[>yeah well it wasn't till i just read it now and thought <{><[>oh that's right i remember us discussing all that <,> <[>laughs coughs <,,><&>4 oh I honestly think that we can get by reasonably well with one person smoking but the minute you get more than one no okay yes does <{><[>that yes it seems fair comment to me too <[>mm well what are you going to do when <{><[>parents come in and um say look i i've got some smokers that are parents <[>coughs yeah and i've had them come in and they've been real uptight they have problems i've got an ashtray down in front of them a coffee in front of them and said take five minutes and have that and then and mark'll vouch for that yes mm and we've got all sorts of things to come out where can i take such people we actually did that in the library didn't we would <{><[>that determine it <&>15:00 <[>we did one one one woman we did in the <{><[>library <[>she was word i usually bring them in here but one woman we did in the library <{><[>she was <[>i think <.>oka <.>o it's okay in here if it's <{><[>not an interval or a lunchtime <[>coughs well it obviously wasn't cos i mean none of you people were here <{><[>so <[>no you wouldn't want us in on the conversation and then you you <{1><[1>just open your doors i think that's that's fair enough but you know um i know that voc eartha cato and i can see no reason why we shouldn't be mentioning her name will wander in here and smoke <{2><[2>and drink <[1>mm <[2>she likes to have a fag <{><[>that <[>okay that's fine that's fine i think it is too um i don't want to seem possessive of my office but that also another possibility but it's also liz's office and i'd like certainly your comment liz i don't particularly <{1><[1>want smoke hanging <{2><[2>around me it <{3><[3>is a no smoking zone and to <{4><[4>my <[1>i don't think that's very fair either <[2>i don't either <[3>no <[4>it's very and also there's very little ventilation it should discussed as an option though i mean all these rooms are options and thank you for <&>16:00 your support mm oh no well as a reformed smoker i don't like being around smoke either right but <{><[>um <[>yes clears throat yeah i was actually quite happy to see that smoke free thing on the door when i came in for the <{><[>interview <[>laughs i <{><[>think that's that's fair enough <[>room three coughs i'm moving round i'm up to room three <{><[>clears throat <[>sue uses that for children <{1><[1>after lunch <{2><[2>but that could <{3><[3>that could be solved if i mean if the smoking was allowed between twelve and quarter to one or whatever and then the doors and windows were opened and then <,> but is that room not owned sort of by the <{4><[4><.>itin itinerant teachers or <{5><[5>what <[1>word <[2>mhm <[3>mm <[4>coughs <[5>yes it's theirs as well mm <{><[>on the fridays we have an option to <[>on fridays we would regularly meet there <{><[>discuss it <[>clare doesn't react well to smoking though don't think oh yes <,> clears throat i think <&>17:00 <,> well if we go back to the <{><[>um medical room is it's not a problem is <.>it unless there's someone in there and if we're not we're not lying people down in there anyway we're <.>lying we're taking them to the castle if they've got a problem <[>exhales coughs then can can that be the room that's used i think that's possible but perhaps before we made any final decisions i'm aware that betty's the main smoker and this must be very difficult for you and it isn't <{><[>entirely her problem <[>i'm not <.>co commenting wherever you designate me to go that's where you gonna have to join me for morning tea next week when it's my birthday shout cos if you don't want me in here <{1><[1>okay that's fine you'll <{2><[2>just have to come and join me smoke and all <[1>mm right <[2>mm <{><[>laughs <[>laughs well that's a novel approach I will laughs it's not that <{><[>i say we can't come up <[>word yeah <.>you you gonna designate it voc outside okay you'll all have to come outside it's only when somebody needs to <{><[>smoke that we're saying can you smoke elsewhere rather than <[>coughs i'd say it <{><[>was more than one <[>whole yes <&>18:00 it does <{><[>fill <[>but then you don't smoke for the entire half an hour anyway do you tut look i <{1><[1>don't mind i i don't smoke at all i <{2><[2>understand what you're saying i understand what you're <{3><[3>saying but i think i've got some rights too <{4><[4>and i think the <{5><[5>parents who come in who are smokers who have problems have got some rights too <[1>word <[2>word <[3>mm <[4>mm <[5>you have mm and i think we've got to be aware of that yeah i think so too but um it's <{><[>word <[>but i tell you wherever you say i will go and i will oblige by it that doesn't <.>wo worry me but i'm just saying i'll have my shout next week that's <{><[>word <[>morning tea in the laundry laughs i'm sorry about <{><[>that <[>you'd better wipe it down carefully <{><[>first <[>mm where the parents are concerned could it not be that i mean if the staff agreed um if it wasn't morning teas or lunchtimes that you know you <.>cou <{1><[1>well they're not well they're not discussing a problem at morning tea really are they um because it's not a problem that that is going to affect the rest of us it's a something <&>19:00 betty and mark and the parent usually <[1>word mm <{><[>word <[>and so it doesn't happen at <{><[>morning teatime or lunchtime <[>no but <{><[>sometimes eartha is here over the morning teatime <[>but when <{><[>oh i'm not talking about her i can soon say to eartha i can soon say to her i think that that's not a problem and i'm sorry i wasn't here that particular day or i would've said something to her <[><&>can't decipher what is said as all previous turn is overlapped by ZZ and VV actually can i <{><[>say <[>and she she would've just done whatever i'd said mm i'm thinking of other parents when they've come in and <{><[>do they generally come in outside of the morning tea and lunchtime hour <[>well well we haven't had i <.>wou <.>wou if they <.>had <.>so a parent came in upset with a problem i wouldn't bring them in here if you guys were in here no so it's <{1><[1>not <{2><[2>going to be problem is it <[1>no <[2>coughs <{><[>but if you're going have a designated area for smokers okay where is that area going to be <[>not now yeah well <{><[>that's the problem but <[>because if these guys are going to be coming in wanting to smoke okay coughs well can we not have voc reverse it and say that this is a designated NONsmoking area for <&>20:00 morning tea and lunchtime and and outside those times but where <{><[>but <.>wha <[>within reason <{><[>yeah <[>but when would betty smoke those are the main times no no but this is <.>t to <{1><[1>cover the problem of <.>your your parents coming so that if your parents come <{2><[2>in outside of the morning tea and <{3><[3>lunchtimes <[1>i know what you're saying parents <,> your parents came in <[2>mm <[3>yes they don't smoke in here <{1><[1>um and then you could bring them in here but during <{2><[2>lunchtime and morning <{3><[3>teatime <[1>yeah <[2>i <[3>i would find it very difficult if and i'm bound by the same requirements i would find it very difficult to say to a parent don't smoke <{1><[1>or please don't smoke here if i mean you use your brain <.>you'd you'd say to missus smith come on through to the library we'll have a chat in there i know the library's not a good place that's where we actually did it last time and it <{2><[2><.>it took it all away with us <[1>yeah <[2>mm yeah it's okay to talk can we not install one of those special extractor fans for smoke they're super efficient are they yes that was actually mentioned last <{1><[1>night but someone <{2><[2>someone said they weren't that good <[1>last night <[2>mm greta greta said it wasn't marlon said it was <.>a might be a good <.>ide i thought it sounded like a very good <{><[>idea <&>21:00 <[>yes well i'd <.>s no i <.>that well i was just going what what john <{><[>said <[>yeah <{><[>i mean you know you're only having one or two smoking an extractor fan will handle that i thought they were very good <&>untranscribable speech several people talking <[>yeah word <.>es specially for smoke is it yes <{><[>yes yes well <[>oh is it <&>untranscribable speech several people talking the <.>window the window's only good if the wind's going that way right and you know and when you're laughing and talking and you accidentally blow the smoke out when you're looking <{><[>this way instead of that way it's a bit difficult <[><&>noise sharing the despair no i think betty's sensible yes yes i agree but you know then you wouldn't get all that smoke in here no <{><[>kim you had a comment on that? <[>i've never heard about those i was gonna say <.>we've trialled them? we've trialled them at the bridge club <{1><[1>oh a couple of years ago <{2><[2>but it wasn't very successful <{3><[3>word mm <[1>word <[2>but <[3>yes that's what greta said last night cos of word but <{><[>that's an awful lot of people smoking <[>but that's a big room handling a lot of people it's it's a <{><[>room probably about three times the size of yeah three four times maybe the size of this <[>and they all light up together at word but isn't there <{1><[1>a new one on the market that's word brilliant i might be <&>22:00 <{2><[2>totally wrong i thought they were the new ones were <{3><[3>good <[1>word <[2>word <[3>mm mm really in a group like kim is talking about you got chain smokers though <{1><[1>word <{2><[2>word <[1>yes that's right but only for a short time because i mean they restrict it there anyway from other smokers half past nine to half past ten <[2>mm <&>22:15