<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>22:15 i'd like to get really super personal do you smoke what one a day two a day what are doing at the <{><[>moment <[>depends what sort of day i'm having i haven't even noticed she was really very good if cary's here <{><[>could be one every five minutes laughs <[>yeah several laughs if bing's smashing my car it'll be one every <{><[>laughs <[>word yeah i know that <{><[>is a big problem too <[>just depends who's here and what sort of day it is but you went for a good while with <{><[>hardly any <[>oh i cut down then i <{><[>word <[>you have you have mm it's not really been a great issue until recently when we've <{1><[1>had two or three people in a room <{2><[2>smoking at once <[1>coughs <[2>mm but <{><[>you word <[>i've always taken responsibility for myself and gone when the smoke gets too much um because i think that's <{1><[1>also a fair action for those of us that <{2><[2>don't smoke to be taking i think we should all bear that <&>23:00 possibility in mind oh thanks doris don't you want to join us <[1>mm <[2>mm no too busy too busy vacuuming fancy liking that more than this or preferring that to this yes i think we've got responsibilities in THAT sense to er tut and have that option ourselves i don't mean by that that we should have to go to our rooms and hide away all the time but um in terms of GENuine give and take i mean we could get awfully <.>pe pedantic as i think we probably have already about staff will be encouraged to do this and they won't do that and the other it would really nice to have a a workable solution <{><[>something practical <[>what did ero say about it only that we have to <.>have we have to have an appeal policy what do you IF people don't like those policies we had one drawn up looks like it was the week before they came laughs but um coughs mm <,,> but there's no <.>r i mean <&>24:00 there's no the the ACT not ero the act requires <{><[>us <[>mm to have a place for designated smokers IF we had no smokers on the staff we could make the school nonsmoking and that's it when anyone applies for a job i would then say to them this is a totally nonsmoking <{><[>environment <[>sorry i stuff it up no you don't bett laughs the place would fall apart without you so you know <{><[>let's start here <[>it did come up at the board meeting that <&>pronounced with reduced vowel that <&>pronounced with full vowel the procedures and policies should be somewhere in the school where parents can see it you know like i mean eartha cato mightn't even realise oh she does know and she <{1><[1>said to me that day i'll smoke by the window and they're <{2><[2>THERE <[1>she does know she does know <[2>she <.>just mm on the wall she knows she <{1><[1>just sees it's her right but she's simple like <{2><[2>humphrey <[1>yes but you're right <[2>mm yeah laughs i don't say it unkindly <&>others say no no no no i know you what mean no right now we don't have to find a solution today if we can't <{1><[1><.>i well think we should try and find a solution <{2><[2>tonight word <[1>certainly we're all aware of the problem <[2>i think that notice should come down for a start <&>25:00 smoking only? yes i do <,> you know if we're going to have smoking in here i'm going to say we'll voc let betty smoke and noone else and if anybody else comes well maybe betty's happy to go and smoke <{><[>with them <[>laughs laughs no i'm not saying that but it is <.>i the problem arises when you're getting more than one person i can understand your problem and <{><[>it's <[>I haven't got a problem it doesn't worry me <{><[>doesn't worry me at all word <[>i know it doesn't word whatever designated area you find i want to know what it is <{><[>but <.>i but i've also got some rights <[>mm but <{1><[1>yes but that's what i'm <{2><[2>saying i <{3><[3>don't treat <.>if if we designate an area as a as a smoking area it doesn't mean say for example it it's the washhouse that you have to spend your entire morning teatime out in the washhouse <{4><[4>that's ridiculous <[1>yes <[2>no <[2>mm <[3>mm <[4>turn it into a smoke pot laughs <&>undecipherable section of general hilarity i am mind your own word laughs <&>makes vomit noise charming before the meeting <&>undecipherable section with general hilarity <&>26:00 it's <{1><[1>just that if you know you're as welcome in here and all smokers as welcome in here as <{2><[2>everybody else but if they want to smoke well whatever area it is they go out there and have their smoke and then they return <,> it's it not as if we're saying well <.>b you or anyone else HAS to be out there for their entire morning teatime so the comment about having your morning teas <&>pronounced teash out in the washhouse i mean at times if we're saying <[1>word <[2>word no wherever you designate i have to go for a smoke that's where you can join me how about <{><[>word laughs <[>laughs i would think that well first of all is anyone inclined to find a solution for now for today <{><[>today <[>yeah i think we've got <{><[>to do something <[>today we've done it before i <{1><[1>mean we did it two years ago and we <{2><[2>sat out the front and we didn't like that so in <.>f february of this year we said well we'll do it this way with the window and now we're saying <.>we give it try another place i mean that may not be the final solution either <[1>mm <[2>coughs well if we designate a place the laundry <{><[>you said word <&>27:00 <[>okay just whatever <,> <.>and and say that the <,> oh well if we designate can't put parents <{1><[1>visitors in the laundry <{2><[2>word word <[1>you can't <.>p <[2>yeah that's what i was gonna to say and other than break <{1><[1>and lunchtime if <{2><[2>parents come well <[1>it's not really <[2>mm coughs that's fine they come in here if you want to talk to them or anywhere <{><[>well there is a very real <[>i think <.>par parents can be welcomed in here but if they want to smoke they can go out there as well or out there or wherever not <{><[>in front of the children though <[>i think they probably feel that <{1><[1>no but they probably feel with the smoking sign up there that they are <.>and <{2><[2><.>i it IS ambiguous that <{3><[3>they're quite welcome to come in here <[1>no <[2>mm <[3>mm tut oh i <{><[>see <[>and smoke yes mm <{1><[1>yes yes that went up as a <{2><[2>joke <[1>that's why it went up come out <[2>mm mm <{1><[1>but do you exhales do <{2><[2>you think <.>it <[1>word oh <[2>designated <{><[>that corner that smoking only <[>mm you <{><[>can't really <[>mm it's made a big <{><[>difference <[>as betty said if if parents are upset and what have you you can't really say to them well go to the laundry i mean <{1><[1>if it's not in break or lunchtime <{2><[2>why couldn't they come in here <[1>no <[2>yeah that's why i that's why i <{><[>suggested that <&>28:00 <[>or the library or what is the washroom available word <{><[>word <[>no she's very busy er <{1><[1>very busy at the moment don't trip over thei whatsit will you bob don't trip over the whatsit cos gill and her team would be <{2><[2>most unamused is the tape still going <[1>laughs <[2>well would would it oh i've forgotten it word <{><[>would it not be solved by just saying that this was a smoke free area FOR morning tea and lunchtime <,,><&>3 <[>word do you want it <{1><[1>moved i think we get into <{2><[2>back into sort of meeting <{3><[3>forum do you want to move that <,> smoke free area i think it <{4><[4>has from the discussion has to be a smoke free <{5><[5>area <[1>is it as simple as that <[2>voc <[3>it's not really <[4>i <[5>mm is that a problem betty for you to be in here with us at lunchtime and morning teas and just whip out and have your smoke and come back in it doesn't worry me wherever i go to have my smoke that's where i will be and have my morning tea and my <{><[><.>co lunch <[>and what and will you stay there the whole time well i don't stay in the staff room <{><[>for a very long time <[>no that's right no <{><[>comment word <[>but that's where i'll have my morning and my lunch i like to have my cup of coffee with my smokes i do think the toilets are the right place for that then <&>29:00 well i told you marlon couldn't come with me <{><[>well i'm sure he didn't want to go anywhere <[>laughs that was a word <{><[>word <[>no i sent marlon on a word all laugh it seems i suggest he went to the ladies' <.>t loo laughs poor little marlon couldn't come with me <&>undecipherable section no he can't word that's right word because there are other matters on the agenda and i'm a male and like to get things organised here could we just look through the <.>in the actual policy the rationale says we gonna <.>positiv <.>posi positive health attitudes and we're gonna model things that we want our children to copy and all that we're going to be terribly healthy says we'll be encouraging one another not to smoke at school and we won't smoke in front of the students there's no problem with any of that section i gather there's no <{><[>there's no there's no that's why it says smoke free environment <[>well it says here i think i think that's a bit tough on on having that one in there saying staff will refrain from smoking during morning intervals i don't see if <{><[>betty wants a smoke <[>that's if <.>some someone went out used to go outside that was the <{1><[1>easiest one and we <{2><[2>used to go out to the <,> out the front <[1>inhales okay <&>30:00 <[2>good yeah i must add that we didn't voc say to them <{><[>you will they said to us we will it was a don't feel we would <.>w <[>voc in the staff room because of the word room it meant in the staff room after it it did word it's not oh oh i have removed it because it'll be superfluous in terms i think of <{><[>what you've said <[>tell us the first one that was ever done staff'll be supported in giving up smoking will be tolerated in the <.>staff well that's gone out so smoking won't be tolerated there any more um i'm assuming that we're <{><[>word <[>we'll support you when trying to give up smoking oh i know that laughs word coughs i thought you were doing so well now <{><[>what about <[>word across about smoking staff may not smoke elsewhere in the school i'm well i'm going to ask about that now staff may not smoke elsewhere in the school until after school and no smoking in front <{><[>of them <[>after all the students have left <{><[>word <[>word part of the school though <&>31:00 has that ever been a problem for you vivienne no it's never been a problem i don't <{1><[1>i don't really agree with that now i look at it now <[1>word has it been a problem has it been a <{><[>problem anywhere for anyone <[>mm word <{><[>word <[>and i'm really sort of saying in my head it <.>does i don't agree with but i don't think it's been a problem in practical terms and some staff did say well what what say i want a fag at about four oclock five oclock when there's noone around do i really need to er go into the laundry down to the laundry that's right well <{><[>what if i'm <.>here working here at weekends <[>word yeah i don't know so shall we just sort of leave that this is the idea develops mm go on word i mean i just see it as this room that's the problem <{><[>that's it there's nothing else <[>nothing else is the problem tut okay that's what i'm really trying to <{><[>arrive at here <[>does the board want to do some extensions did they <{><[>talk about that <[>yes yes i <{><[>moved <[>yes but we've only got word carpeting laughs <{><[>tut so <[>we can paint it as much as you like we but we can't <{><[>extend <[>smoking i'm sorry i've turned over to procedures <{1><[1>may i smoking is permitted only in the staff room goes and smoking is permitted in the <.>laundry in the designated smoking place which at the moment's going to be the laundry is it for a <{2><[2>trial period <[1>mhm <[2>only word do we have to make that into a motion mark well er you might like to move it now because if you're going to write this as procedure then it will okay we'll have to see if people agree to that sure point of view that's really what i'm asking yeah now <{1><[1>whether you make it as motion or <{2><[2>whether you just sort of talk in english <[1>yeah <[2>right well i'll make it as a motion that okay the <.>laun <&>tape cuts off speech <&>32:30 <&>end of tape