<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>0:10 you just gonna bowl her up in the room and <.>say NO NO don't have to BOWL her up in the ROOM <,> yeah well what laughs you just TALK to her laughs yeah tonight and tell her what what we just been <{><[>talking about <[>just while we're having kai or something you just want to talk to her like that yeah just tell her do you want to make her cry no that's what YOU want to do no DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO we'll just talk to her tonight and <.>we'll ask her what she's going to do at grad? now you're getting very technical renata of course you know i mean at grad okay laughs you're being responsive to THAT you're bad <{><[>at that <[>no i'm not yes you are well i'm just <.>seeing see your english is so perfect word you asked <&>pronounced akst me <&>1:00 <{><[>laughs <[>laughs no it's like how she asked <&>pronounced akst me <{><[>er <[>yes i know well we weren't very clear at the time i TOLD her I wasn't clear i was thinking <{><[><,> oh yeah it depends where it's going to take place remember that's what i said <[>word and then <.>when when you said that this is a greater event than mhm than her mhm trivial no <{><[><.>it's <[>it was YOU said trivial <{><[>i wouldn't <[><.>it's when you look at the wider picture renata yeah the wider picture IS that the main event is the graduation mm right of the day you have a big role to play I have a role to play it's not as great as yours but i still have a role to play mm right <,> and um <.>you so you don't want to have to look over your shoulder to make sure <{><[>you <.>don't <[>oh it's not that i don't want to have to look over my shoulder NOTHING should HAPPEN should OCCUR during those procedures ANY PART of it that's ALL formal the <&>2:00 WHOLE lot right from the time the people come onto the marae until the time everyone's LEFT the marae all <{><[>right <[>oh that <.>sh <.>sh NOTHING <.>should should occur so that she COULD have an opportunity at the ball <,> <{><[>when <.>i when i <.>do <[><.>i i'm not saying that when i don't have a responsibility <{><[>and er you don't necessarily have one <[>like i SAID yeah well like i said <,> once all this is over cos i said you've got a big role to play i have a role to play once all these formal things are over THEN <,> i <.>s <.>i i'm saying as long as <.>nothing <,> i'm SAYING NOTHING should take place during that time are you going to talk to her how you're talking <{><[>now <[>yep i will i will you never do I WILL you WILL this time yes i WILL you WILL yes i WILL you WILL <,> okay <,> and what if she says oh get <&>3:00 STUFFED lisa stick it up your little ass she won't how do you know cos she won't she will no she won't but if she does look i'm <{><[>giving <.>you when <.>you lay it out for her sometimes she'll see it <[><.>what <.>what right? i'm just saying she <.>could at the moment she can only see the little wee tiny picture she does not see the wider implications the <.>wider the bigger picture well the implications of what <.>she if she does anything on the day in the form of parts proceedings of the thing hui and then when your mother comes back you go YEAH caroline you go along to grad and BEAT HER UP i know i'll talk to morrie too aha i don't <.>know cos morrie sent me out a thing as well what no that's just the <.>way <.>that's <.>i like i said it's the way anyone would react <&>4:00 <,,><&>3 tut you just assume it i'm saying renata that's how people normally react maori people <,> right? their first gut reaction is anger and they want to physically hurt someone when they've been hurt right they've got to TAKE IT OUT on something someone usually <.>th <.>the the person who's caused it right <&>sighs so you speak to caroline and you tell her all this yep and then on the day <.>i'll i'll make sure aroha's there too and then on the day to hear something happens <{><[>clears throat <[>are you gonna be there for her NO you see <.>if if our discussions go down right if she's clear if her mind is <.>clear if her mind gets <.>all all disturbed and upset just because she sees wiki then it's pathetic she <.>can't <.>i'm i'm <{><[>saying she's word <[>well i mean she's got a <&>5:00 little control you're not caroline you <{><[>don't know how she's feeling <[>i KNOW i KNOW that i KNOW that renata so <.>you you have a different perspective your perspective is a <.>lot is cut and dried it's THIS or it's THAT that's RIGHT yeah well <{1><[1><.>that's <,> <{2><[2>caroline may not be like that what i'm SAYING is if something was to come about even though caroline said YES yes this <.>is okay yous you're absolutely right i <.>don't <{3><[3>nothing matters and then <,> and then WIKI HOLD ON and then wiki comes along and she says to caroline oh good job you dumb bitch <.>are are <.>you <.>and and caroline lashes out where are you then <,> what's your position <.>y you gonna let those two just fight or if wiki calls <{4><[4>along people <[1>conversation <[2>i'm DOING it from my perspective <[3>well i will tell her as well if something will come <.>about <[4>where is this taking place here <.>i'm <.>ta taking <{><[>place here <[>where EXACTLY WHERE <{><[>EXACTLY <[>oh well let's just say the driveway <&>6:00 well <{><[>and where am I in position to that where am I at the time <[>and <.>wiki and <.>wiki and wiki calls er pania and hera and <{><[>hana and marie and all those and all this <.>and <.>and and they're lining up beside caroline they got caroline in a circle and er YOU hear from just say from someone that er something's happening out here on the driveway what are YOU gonna do what's your position <[>OH the whole LOT of them can get out the WHOLE LOT OF THEM can get out well obviously i'll have to get some other people around won't i so you will go out of COURSE and you will <.>s stand <{><[>beside caroline <[>well i'll ASSESS the situation when i GET there yeah but there's er no time to assess because there's fists flying well then there will have to be more FISTS FLYING so <.>y you <.>wi you'll get in with it PERHAPS <&>sighs well <.>i cos i think it's quite important that you TELL caroline that oh <{><[>she <.>goes <[>because you know you can only put up with so much shit i mean wiki can just rub it in <&>7:00 your face ALL bloody day well if wiki's getting smart then she deserves to be knocked well <.>so <{><[>word <[>i wouldn't have a CLUE nata i WON'T be AROUND when that HAPPENS oh look i'm just SAYING i <{><[>wouldn't know what has transpired <[>if you HEAR or if you SEE just say you're going out to the toilet and then something's happening you come out of the toilet and you see it's happening yes all right you'll go up there and you'll get IN with it what i'm SAYING is that you should TELL caroline THAT if THAT'S what your position IS if that's what peka's position is that's what's aroha's position is that's what's MY position you should TELL her i don't know if i'll get <.>i involved in the physical aspect of it <,> perhaps tut oh i can't see you not perhaps <{><[>depends <[>i cannot see <.>you depends standing by while <.>six while six people gang up <&>8:00 on your sister i don't think six people will i'm <.>just i'm just working out the <.>e extreme scenario i don't think they will they'd have to be VERY <{><[>word <[>oh i <.>should shouldn't say that i should say that um that <.>is that's only natural that <.>they they DO that BUT they <.>als <.>they they endanger themselves in doing that how i think you'll find if wiki wants people she'll get them oh yes i know and that'll be er that'll be all the ones that are here yeah i know and er you know even though they all spout off now voc wiki's a dumb so and so voc she doesn't know what she's doing oh i hate her guts and all this thing when it comes down to the crunch like that blood's thicker than water and they'll be in <&>9:00 there <,,><&>4 fists flying galore <,,> and i'm just saying that YOU need to er you need to er work through or see it like it that could be a possible situation that occurs <,,><&>4 and your sister you should TELL her what your stance is on that <,,> all you fellas never mind talking to your brother i mean <.>he <.>he <,> he doesn't know anything about that he's so stupid that <.>he he can have that opinion <,,> cos after all the eldest knows best <,,><&>5 but you see what i'm getting at? <,,><&>4 even er yeah yeah no i know <,> well i <.>wouldn't i wouldn't know <,> but <.>i'm so <.>s but like i said you know <.>what oh i <.>just <.>s you know what er my position is don't you <&>10:00 <,,><&>5 that's all right no i mean <.>like <{><[>i could <.>run i could run in <.>and <[>well i'm more or <.>less what i'm trying to do is to <,> discourage her from acting on her emotions <,> <.>at at the formal part of the hui yeah <{><[>that's all right <[>that's basically what <.>i'm <{><[>the purpose of what i'm doing <[>but you're <.>only you're only working on half the situation <,> tut that's caroline's situation wiki could be here spitting tacks if she comes up here and she could rub it into caroline's face and go oh <{><[>you stupid bitch <[>that's <.>even that's even more ammunition to do something later <,,> <&>sighs <,,><&>4 later as in <.>when when? the next grad? voc <,,><&>6 it's difficult to say <,,><&>4 the <{><[>BALL <&>11:00 <[>it has more of an impact when you're there to hear the words yourself well let's just say i come out of the kitchen i hear these two talking away or yelling or arguing and then i signal to you what's happening in the back here <{><[>word <[>well i'll come out of course are you gonna be there to go voc well it depends like i said it depends what the situation looks like if it's one on one it's all right if it's one on one then you just pull them apart <,> tell them to go off down the road <,,> all right? are you listening yep it depends where it is if it's occurring around here <,,><&>3 it depends so if it's one on one you tell them to piss off <,,><&>3 and go and scrap their fight somewhere else not here could be so is that what you're saying yeah could be <&>12:00 well it's either yes or no no it could be there's <.>no see? there no clear cut remember oh i would i'd tell them to fucking piss off laughs oh not piss off just go up there yeah well like you said oh you'd be wearing your taurima hat i'd have to wear my my hat that's very IMPORTANT <,,><&>4 and how do you think caroline would interpret that she'll think i'm being selfish <.>i yeah i THINK she thought i was a bit um but it's not being selfish it's not selfish <{><[><.>but <[>SHE is <.>being if anything she <.>i she can be selfish too i think she was a <{><[>bit hurt <[>it's not to <.>say it's not to say that <.>we <.>we we don't want to do the same thing to her to wiki <,,> but there's an appropriate time <,> <.>or <.>or should say THAT is <&>13:00 not the appropriate time rather <,,><&>5 i thought she'd <.>be i think she was a bit hurt when i said that to her <,> as <.>my put on my taurima <&>deliberately pronounced with english phonology hat <,,><&>4 yeah the more i think about it the more i think that it's stupid <,,><&>3 sure <.>i i <.>don't she can beat her up she can do whatever she's likes but go piss off somewhere else and do it <,,><&>7 i mean wiki's already shamed herSELF there's no need for caroline to go <.>and go and make it obvious that <.>she's she's oh so hurt <,,> of course <.>sh course <.>she's she's sore and everything but i mean you know that makes it <.>re really obvious <&>14:00 to everyone that er hello hello hello <,,><&>4 she may have <.>r already <,> expressed to other people that she's gonna do that caroline? and perhaps people have given her the idea that she's gonna do that by who oh just <.>l like how she comes to kapa and she talks to everybody you <{><[>know <.>she <[>that's her biggest problem she's got a big mouth she goes yappeting yap to everyone especially to pania she goes yappety yap <{><[>to her <[>oh she <.>gets she goes to pania to get information <,> about wiki oh well there you are caroline the shit will hit her face <,,><&>8 well just imagine if HE stood <.>in <,> if HE came <.>in <,> and raised HIS fist to caroline <,,><&>3 if i <&>15:00 saw him i'd have no hesitation <,,><&>5 this is just out of personal dignity then <,,><&>7 oh that's nasty <,,><&>6 he has to do that <,,> offended <.>his <,> pussy <,,><&>9 <&>15:44 <&>end of side one <&>side two <&>0:21 shall we listen to what we have to say NO <,,> oh you going on the other side shit <,,><&>4 oh no as i said there are many things that <.>could you can't er calculate ALL the possible scenarios because you <.>can you can have the er a positive scenario and then you can have the most NEGATIVE scenario and then there's a grey area in between <,> which it <.>either <.>it it can <&>1:00 either be relatively good or relatively BAD <,,><&>4 as i was saying you just have to think it through <,,> you can't just say to caroline no i don't think you should do this it's not the place it's not the time inappropriate <,> you'll have to er bite your tongue and stomach it no <.>well i'll tell her that if that's what i think but have you thought it through yes i have hey shit you better not look at that well i'm <.>bore i'm bored now i'm tired i need to do some work <,,><&>8 what do you do voc no i need to do my work <&>2:00 <&>sounds like MM is writing and is perhaps explaining that she needs to tape five more minutes <&>2:12 oh well well LET'S talk about hawaii hawaii something LIGHT yeah something to look <{><[>forward to <[>something more enjoyable eh so how much money are you going to take u s er two thousand? <,,><&>3 two and a half three two and a half three that's how much <{><[>in <.>your <[>oh i put most of it in the visa in my visa i just carry a thousand cash <,> and have the rest on my visa <,,><&>5 yep <,> that's quite a lot of money that IS a lot of money too much man <{><[>word <[>no i know what to spend my money on now not all the rubbish clothes we bought at the market YOU el <{><[>cheapo rubbish clothes <&>3:00 <[>bought rubbish clothes YOU bought rubbish clothes i'm going to buy me some <.>n some shoes i'm going to shop in the mall <{><[>sears <[>in ala moana sears markets the markets are okay that's only for first <{><[>time tourists <[>j c penney markets because um that's where get <.>anyth oh mind you the JEWELLERY is lovely in the markets word i'm gonna get me some sets i like those <.>coral i still got my clocks <{><[>your what <[>my clock you know those clocks yeah hawaiian clock yeah do you remember the <.>bring <.>buy con a conch yeah laughs conch shell yeah we got him that big one and i got the small one it's quite good and i must get my rental <,,><&>3 oh yeah cruise around town oh we got to see what our <.>i itinerary is first cos we're <&>4:00 only going to be in <.>ohau oahu for two days and then going over to hawaii for two days and on the other <{><[>islands <[>i'd save all my money for the big <.>isl for the other islands cos we haven't done <.>any and they'll have things there that might be a bit different at least hilo that's on the big island <,,> it sounded really neat what er paul was talking about you know how they <{><[>came in from the <.>sh off the shore on a waka <[>hilo yeah yeah <,,><&>3 <{><[>kawa tu ata <[>word mac's going to come back from hawaii saying all these things we would have already heard it before <,,> doesn't seem to listen eh he doesn't um it's only when HE says that it's important or when he's seen it and then HE talks about it then it's important but if you talk about something that he doesn't know anything about then it's not important laughs it ISN'T TRUE <.>until until he experiences it <&>5:00 himself THEN only is it important okay now what's an example of that <,,><&>3 er something the kaitiaki he didn't believe in that he thought that was just a lot of rubbish are you listening what kaitiaki kaitiaki <{><[>it's not kaitiaki <&>second a pronounced as long a lisa hi missus tirotiro missus rikiHAAna <[>the <.>whole <,> kaitiaki i'm allowed to say it like that i'm allowed to say it like that shut your fat ass laughs missus rikiHAAna he <{1><[1>didn't believe in that <{2><[2>until after his DEEP sessions with paul and then oh oh yes i do BELIEVE in it <[1>tirotiro <[2>hurimana laughs course man but <.>why why do you worry about it tut i'm just telling you it's <.>so sickening <,,><&>3 you have to put up with it eh your ears it's a bit hard on the ears <,,><&>5 toko <&>6:00 toko is a very clever little boy <,,> burps <,,> well he is <,,><&>3 he's starting to talk <,> he's got good <,> motor <.>mecha oh not motor mechanism what is it <,> rhythm he's got good rhythm for someone of his age <,> balance he's got stocky legs big bum it's balanced by his big chest big head oh big head he's actually got a big head <,,> and he's got his whopper jaws <&>6:44 <&>end of recording