<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>tape one side one <&>12:18 <.>fir oh firstly this first first first issue is laughs clears throat <{><[>um with these <.>problem take the other one cos that's a bit easier <[>laughs yeah um why is the THE um why is the the outside i mean i i realise it's part of the x bar theory but it's not clear to me that the determiner is it's not clear to me that those prepositional phrases are more <.>composit are composed with the noun announce um are you know are closer to the announce than the determiner is in some sense you know what i mean mhm so if you were to write it down <,> you say in effect what you're doing is you're bracketing these <,> together <{><[>and then you're bracketing this outside it <[>not yeah <{><[>yeah <[>it's not clear to me that the determiner <&>13:00 is outside d? <{1><[1>in word yeah is it like you're saying that the is <{2><[2>is linked in there it's like more closely related to <{3><[3>announce things on the <{4><[4>radio <[1>mhm <[2>it's like the announcement <[3>yeah the announcement <[4>than those ones are of the news <{><[>on local radio <[>yeah yeah i'm with you on that <{><[>yeah <[>mm yeah so what do people think about that so it doesn't reflect and match what should be a natural choice what should be <{><[>linked together <[>well i'd like to know why the x bar is motivated <,,> um you know what what motivates that that particular well who's to say we've done it right we must have i suppose <{1><[1>well i i'm pretty sure <{2><[2>that is right <{3><[3>from that x you know from from the x bar but i'm not clear well it's not it's not intuitively clear to me which is perhaps the level i most comfortably operate on <[1>laughs <[2>laughs <[3>come on timothy you doubt that laughs all laugh <,,><&>10 <&>14:00 what was the question again simon well <.>d if we have a phrase like the announcement of the news coughs um <,> my intuitions would say that this should be bracketed together <,,> well in some ways <.>i i could see an argument for THAT as much as an argument that goes this way <,,> more than word yeah well i'm just not clear why they why they do it this why which is x bar rather than this way which is it's not clear that there is some sort of priority <,,> <{><[>the word listeners <[>mm laughs <.>so but is the is this <{><[>the word branching supposed to reflect <&>15:00 all laugh <[>word they're all right branching aren't they that's right they are got to have it on the left clears throat <{><[>laughs <[>it's on the left it's got to go up there there's just no other hope for it <,,> the it's not like the really has got much semantic weight to it anyway yeah? not really what about if you put <{1><[1>a number in there <{2><[2>word <[1>oh <[2>like <.>i if if you if you didn't have THE you just had announcement of the news on local radio <{1><[1>surprised it <{2><[2>you'd still understand what it meant but if you took out <[1>that's the word <[2>word not a very good example word like we had <{><[>word <[>say say <{><[>word <[><.>announ the announcement of the coronation <&>15:32 <&>side two <&>11:23 i never claimed it was anything more than that laughs oh i think you were for a while laughs actually <,> or hoping to i was exploring laughs that's what all this stuff's based on is intuition <,,> that's true cos if it's <{><[>not grammatical it's intuitively not grammatical not for any other reason <[>sure but then within linguistics being a branch of cognitive psychology intuitions are remarkably valid proof at times laughs i mean that's where that's where um <,,><&>4 <&>12:00 generative stuff all started wasn't it <,> if something's grammatical or ungrammatical why <,> and <{><[>the only reason they could find that out was by asking people if it FELT grammatical or ungrammatical <[>that's right well that's chapter two all laugh oh yeah <&>blows nose er it's pretty easy wasn't it word for a noun phrase word i'm going to have a cigarette <,,> i wish i could smoke in here but i can't <,,><&>3 what about a lunch <{><[>break <[>so what are we gonna argue about next laughs <{><[>lunch <[>seems <{><[>pretty fair <[><.>wha what do you do with quantifiers where do quantifiers go? voc if it was the five announcements on the news on the programme five <,,><&>3 that would be a number <,,> i <.>suppo oh under that scheme i suppose all you could do is have um add another specifier another specifier <&>13:00 <,,><&>7 i might come back to this laughs well if you really want to project? coughs yeah all laugh errors in x bar a project by simon carr all laugh <.>why where x bar doesn't feel right laughs x bar analyses don't feel right to me i'll have to explain <.>wh explore why laughs <,,><&>3 you laugh you wait till chomsky sees it laughs laughs laughs yep yep <,,><&>3 shall we have a lunch break ten to one yeah it's getting pretty <{><[>seriously lunchish isn't it <[>god <[>mm cos i mean after a lunch break time will just fly right through to whenever <&>simultaneous speech between XX and KL not transcribed <.>wha what's <.>this what's this thing tonight <&>14:00 half six is it yeah i can't remember what <{><[>word <[><.>i i might have a bit of trouble i mean er i'd like to come out and all that <{><[>but um <[>since it was my suggestion <,> but um oh it's actually just money problems <,> but er if it wasn't any more than <.>te if it's not any more than ten dollars <.>i i'll manage it i reckon like if we're eating cheap chinese i mean you get a <.>whole a <.>whole yeah a whole lot of plates and they all cost you know seven eight dollars something like yiang shing <{><[>word <[>oh well yeah that's okay i'll make <{><[>word <[>i reckon we can do it <&>general vocalised agreement <{><[>maximum i'd say about twelve <,> each <[><&>untranscribed simultaneous speech mm mm <,,><&>5 yeah yeah so what time are we getting there is it six thirty they're meeting at the word six thirty to eight isn't it is that right six thirty? i couldn't remember <{><[>the time <[>or was it <{><[><.>seven no <[>it was six or six <{><[>thirty <[>no no it wasn't be seven it was before seven word <{><[>word <[>i can't remember if it was six or six thirty oh here it is six p m upstairs <&>15:00 six yeah six p m yeah <{1><[1>yeah cos we said seven and then and then i think tracey <{2><[2>said <,> six <[1>word <[2>tracey wanted to go at six oh <{><[>so it's <.>seven <[>what's today <{><[>word <[>it's pretty early laughs yeah it is early extraordinarily early word should be applying for overtime here laughs voc word doesn't help anyway so <,,><&>4 yes i think paula said she was thinking about making it earlyish <,> in a way or something paula said she might not <{><[>make it <[>make it at ALL yeah same is it <,> oh tut she's going where somewhere christchurch? yeah sounds right oh she's gonna go down to the funeral oh she said she might be oh right <,> oh that's <.>ri oh if she <{><[>hey no no no she's <.>here <[>hey we could we could make the essays due after that <,> laughs laughs oh what a gross thought word can sit there word <,> come on tell us what it says neat <,> word so we're all happy with that summary and if we just might as well wrap up chapter two <,,> when <&>16:00 i say happy yeah yeah all laugh i mean are there arguments that can wait <,> thematic roles that could be assigned later laughs whoever transcribes this tape's going to get really bored laughs ha ha ha ha ha ha all laugh that was timothy laughing at you all laugh raise <{><[>c command <[>maybe we <.>should oh we're carrying on are we oh no <{><[>word <[>i think i need a break are we gonna make sure this word <.>i'm <.>i i don't know <{><[><.>it's <[>i mean it'd kind of be nice if we could we can just bring our food up here anyway right no have <{><[>a proper break <[>no have a break yeah i reckon yeah lets just just just <.>just c command? yes yep that's all right all laugh m command yes no not really m command <,,><&>4 barriers da da da da da da <&>17:00 i had one question but i can't remember what it was m command was the weak command wasn't it <,,> c command is stronger word m command is is weaker <,,> the maximum command word sorry c command is <,> stronger because <.>it it has more restrictions to make so that means that <,> announce <,> announcement voc m commands THE <&>softly why <,,><&>8 no <,,><&>4 no no it's a <.>m barrier <.>wha oh oh sorry we're talking about something else we're not talking about m command okay sorry it's all right <,,><&>4 even though word shouldn't be here in the first place <{><[>laughs <[>laughs <&>18:00 in fact in both ways <,,><&>3 irrespective of the bracketing <{><[>laughs <[>laughs announcement m commands THE yep yep can you? yep yep voc cos the n p is the first maximal projection yep all right but you don't go that way you go this way isn't it no it's not directional <,> is it if it's directional no it's not directional is it no <{><[>c command isn't but um <,> yeah no it's not <[>no but can you say that <,,><&>3 um <,,><&>3 on the local radio c commands announcement word it's announcement that c commands on the local radio head c command <,,><&>3 is that right think so heads c command no anything can c command anything can c command yep <&>19:00 no but it has to be a lexical category or something word well there's nothing in the definition <.>of <.>of of c command that requires it to be <{><[>a head eh <,> oh except <.>its GOVernors have to be heads <[>mm GOVernors yeah oh okay <.>but <,> <.>but but c command is no c command isn't so yeah <.>i in a sense you can say that on <.>laca on local radio does um does c command announcement <,> okay as a prepositional phrase <,,> okay it's not directional <,,> oh <,,><&>5 so on local radio m commands the <,,> but not c command well <.>if if you're talking about prepositional phrase and prepositional phrase <,> um <,> does c command announcement yeah but yeah the <.>co individual constituents don't <&>20:00 <,> well they don't do either no i was talking about in relation to THE oh to THE sorry <,,> yeah now it's all right so it would be m commands right yeah yep and all those constituents also m command THE too <,> it's not just that the not c command yeah but not c command meanwhile so government government <{><[>a governs m commands b <,> no barrier intervenes <[>so the governs <,,> <.>maximal the fact that maximal projections are barriers to government is IMplied by the use of m command there isn't it <,,><&>3 yeah <,,><&>3 is m plied laughter as opposed to c plied laughter can you imagine how much trouble they're going <&>21:00 to have transcribing all this <,> m plied are they gonna transcribe all this stuff <{><[>yeah <[>er <{><[>someone's going to be <[>what stuff oh GROSS grubby <{><[>eh <[>that's horrible she'll get one of us to do it word qui parler on francais parce que si on parle en francais alors euh she said if people want <{><[>to do it <,> like i mean <.>it's <[>il y a pas d'anglais nah word you know you get paid for it paid <,> like it's word das besteht nicht laughs what was that laughs <&>untranscribable speech yeah i wouldn't mind doing that da i don't think we've got very much time <,> couple of <.>ni couple of evenings a week for about three hours what's the pay like oh <,> eight something oh slave labour that's all you see <,> slave labour you should get more oh they won't they won't want to transcribe this cos we're all being <,> <{><[>um <[>FACETIOUS all laugh oh no i mean they just want informal speech not word people <,,><&>4 you should have some new category what are they going to class this as <{><[>erudite students <&>22:00 <[>no no probably get one of us to do it <.>because to transcribe it because um we know who's who bags not me yeah cos we know who's who <,> bags not me <,,> what's that word oh sure where does that come from i don't know it comes from the battle of agincourt is that right battle of where agincourt where's that laughs see some of <.>these the javelin <{1><[1>throwers you see in the english camp <{2><[2>you know you needed <.>an a thumb to hold <{3><[3>the javelin properly and what would happen is that the when the french caught a javelin thrower they'd <.>sli slice off the thumb because they couldn't hold the javelin properly <[1>word <[2>laughs <[3>laughs they did that to stop them <{><[>word <[>and they couldn't balance it when they were throwing it and so what happens is when the french <.>came came over <.>to to somebody carrying a javelin they'd just turn and run you see and then they'd turn around and go like this to show they're <{><[>still word <[>but i'm not sure <.>why that doesn't <.>really mm wouldn't they just do a giz a go doesn't <.>really doesn't really clarify the use of the forehead <{><[>laughs <[>oh but these <.>are these are english people <{><[>word <[>i suppose they'd give them a frontal lobotomy as well as take the um as well as <&>23:00 chop the thumb off so they'd give <.>them give them both word and they had frontal lobotomy word their frontal lobotomy was all right all laugh the operation that word to slice off <{><[>thumbs <[>WELL is think it's lunchtime laughs solved yes okay well i think we've come a long way <&>23:20 <&>tape is turned off while they go to lunch