<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>0:10 how hot I DON'T KNOW twenty five <.>degrees NO <{1><[1>yeah but YOU <.>CAN'T YOU CAN'T regulate that on that <{2><[2>microwave <[1>HOW CAN I TELL <.>WHAT <[2>you can't regulate a microwave well how can <{1><[1>i tell what temperature it is if we haven't got nothing to voc test it <{2><[2>with <[1>does it <.>go <[2>we'll have to use a thermometer then <{><[>well i <.>s <[>we've got the brixometer the brixometer's got <.>a <,> mercury in it <{><[>okay <[>i know but it's down in the boot of the <{><[>toyota he says <[>well GET IT but why should it <{><[>be in the toyota <[>NO IT'S NOT it's in YOUR car well <{><[>whereabouts <[>it's in the back of YOUR car why is <{><[>this on <[>he already checked <{><[><&>next utterance addressed to XA that's for you to do the chocolate <[>i <.>haven't i haven't checked a THING cynthia oh I THOUGHT YOU JUST WENT OUT TO THE CAR AND SAID IT'S NOT THERE i looked for the TOYOTA all laugh the toyota's not there all laugh but I'VE been using the WHITE car <{><[>oh <[>that's got nothing to DO with it <{><[>laughs <[>laughs it HAS SO we're talking about <.>how <{><[>voc i'm going to auckland and i'm already TWO days late and i'm going to be THREE days late if i <.>spend <&>phone starts ringing the more time i spend talking <[>um <.>DAD you said you were going to go monday i'm just <{1><[1>trying to get the car organised <{2><[2>YES THAT'S WHY THE CAR IS AT THE <{3><[3>GARAGE NOW <[1>TODAY'S MONDAY <[2>not next monday <[2>mum <&>1:00 <[3>that's why i'm upstairs trying to do <{><[>this stuff and you keep on sitting <.>in <,> bed and all sorts of things <.>you <&>1:05 <&>MK answers phone and transcribing resumes when he gets off phone <&>1:19 <[>GO ON go word um where's the pink batts or where do we get them from that's what i don't know have to BUY some <.>or they've got glass in them yeah i know well this <.>is well yeah i know pink <.>ba but something that sort of insulates you know styrofoam bubbly packing anything that sort <.>of probably easiest would be pink batts but you get them in packs of ten i think what do you need pink batts for insulate the little tank so that the wine doesn't cool down just have to sort of wrap it around and <{><[>word <[>is the reason the culture has to be at twenty five degrees is because that's what the <{><[>wine's at <[>well <.>twe twenty to twenty <.>four no no that's what it grows best at oh right twenty to twenty five is <.>the <,> temperature <,> actually <.>that <.>that <.>that just <&>2:00 get the warm <.>wi yeah that's <.>right put <.>it <.>ju voc this <.>one for the <.>f initial thing in the APPLE juice has to be kept twenty to twenty <.>four five degrees for twenty four hours yeah but after that it doesn't say the WINE has to <.>be but you know get WARM wine and so then you grow it up in the warm wine in that tank because we've been noticing that the wine at the <.>bottom isn't that warm it's warmer up the top yeah well that's normal it's COLD down the bottom yeah but <.>stir if you plunge it around a bit plunge it around and <.>then right <{1><[1>supposed to be um <.>the the OLD ones <{2><[2>i didn't think we were supposed to be plunging the old ones anymore <[1>it's warm <[2>yeah oh <{><[>no there's word <[>yeah but we've also got the melolactic acid now right if i put the juice into a jug and just put it in that for a minute test it see if it needs to be hotter i don't know what else do you suggest why would <{><[>you put it in the microwave <[>yeah well how else do you heat it up except on the stove now hold on i was just wondering why you put <{><[>it in the microwave <[>voc you TELL HER you TELL her how to heat it up <{><[>well i <.>don't <[>well how do you heat the apple juice YOU KEEP ON <.>A <&>sighs i'm just wondering why you put it in the <{><[>microwave <[>well heat <{><[>it up <[>COS SHE <{><[>DOESN'T KNOW <[>to heat it up you want it heated yeah now hold on you <{><[>word microwave is radiation but what does it do to food does it damage it <[>put it on low not as far as i know <,> <{1><[1>word <{2><[2>word <&>3:00 <[1>but it <.>might <[1>does <.>it does it <.>break <[2>voc if you just say don't do it in the microwave <{><[>dad <[>does it break the cells up I DON'T KNOW voc AREN'T I ALLOWED TO TALK TO MYSELF oh is that what you're doing oh it would help if you <{><[>word <[>well you usually ask a question which you tell me i shouldn't do when i do talk like that i don't oh yes you do come on LOOK I'M TRYING TO GET AS FAST AS POSSIBLE TO AUCKLAND <,,> plane if <.>you if you um you're being taped yeah i know i'm being taped <{><[>laughs <[>laughs <[>laughs i can wipe it don't worry about it laughs it's good though because you see when people get angry they speak more naturally all laugh yes that's right and so it's probably REALLY good data I'M NOT ANGRY laughs all laugh like cynthia says duke when she's angry <{><[>duke <[>duke <[>does she laughs <{><[>voc <[>the duke of york she insists that she <{><[><.>says <[>yes when you're angry you go THE DUKE OF YORK laughs she insists she says duke <&>pronounced djuk <&>4:00 she DOES AND she says waistcoat <&>pronounced weskit yes i was brought up proper all laugh but in the dictionary it says waistcoat <&>pronounced weiskout didn't you hear what she said she said i was brought up proper not properly well I was brought up proper laughs <&>4:10 <&>4:40 yep yep that'll be okay it's got a thermometer on it that's fine um <,,> <{><[>well what do i mix it up in <[>i know just practise boiling up water and see if you can keep it <.>at oh is it <.>something it has to be constant temperature <{><[>yeah oh yes <[>how are you going to keep it at a constant temperature what i suggest you <.>do <{><[>i just asked <[>you have that <.>mic you have a microwave thermometer remember <&>5:00 no no no no i've <{><[>got a MEAT thermometer <[>oh no you <{><[>had <.>a you had a microwave thermometer word inside <[>but what <.>about no but the microwave breaks up the cells that's right yes yes <{1><[1>yeah <{2><[2><.>tho those <.>temperatures those sort of temperatures <.>high <.>ele elevated temperatures <[1>don't worry about that <[2>oh oh but <{1><[1>it was a <.>way that was a way to keep <{2><[2><.>it constant <[1>yep too high too high <[2>you could probably do it in <.>a <{><[>conventional oven <[>elevated temperatures that'll be good for anna's tape OR once it's heated up you wrap it up in towels and put it in the hot water <{><[>cupboard like we used to do with the yoghurt <[>yes that's what you did <{1><[1>with <.>the that's what you did last year <{2><[2>with word <[1>and the chicken <[2>the chicken i brought home from kindy <{><[>we did that with that too laughs <[>right but you'd still <.>lose they're talking too fast but she <.>didn't wrap it all up <{><[>laughs <[>what i <.>suggest what i suggest you do is that you um get a big bucket <{><[><.>put <[>is this the same as what we did last year yeah oh well <{><[>how did we do it last year <[>i <.>wasn't i <.>wasn't i wasn't here last year i didn't do it cynthia did it do you remember remember we had that big bucket we had it all wrapped up in towels mm and you had it in another <{><[>hot word or something <[>i wasn't here and we had it <{><[>in there <[>i remember you talking about it well it looks as if i'd better empty the apples <{><[>cos the other buckets are in the toyota <[>no we had it upstairs in the airing <{><[>cupboard <[>we had it up in the <{><[>airing cupboard wrapped in towels <[>toyota's ready is the toyota ready yes now they just rang oh oh they said take about an hour <{><[>yeah <[>no telepathy that's good for anna's tape too <&>6:00 i have to be <.>at oh <{><[>no it's ten THIRTY isn't it <[>yeah well <.>look <.>anyway <{><[>anyway what i suggest you do is you get <.>the get <.>the water at twenty five degrees in there and then <.>you put the five litres inside the water <[>ten thirty is your thing oh oh so <.>you you're <.>putting so you <.>need have you got a five litre container so if <.>that that apple <.>juice if that apple juice is at <.>say if that's at fifteen now is all the apple juice going in this <{1><[1>one thing five litres of it <{2><[2>right <[1>five litres <[2>you have <.>fifteen yeah but you don't put it <.>in you don't put it in there no hot water goes in there put your hot water in <{><[>there it's <.>this if <.>this if <.>this is at <.>fifteen well <.>i'm i'm just bothered about putting stuff in the microwave because you see what microwaves do it'll give local heating and then it <.>might i don't know i'm not an expert on microwaves <[>word yeah you'd need to know i don't know what it does to the cells of the things it's good for cooking and eating but it <{><[><.>dena <[>you're saying it would be <{1><[1>better to put it into that thing and put hot water round the <{2><[2>outside and that way it <{3><[3>would be sitting in water <[1>microwaves <[2>microwave denatures proteins <[3>bain millie it microwave <{1><[1>denatures proteins yeah microwave denatures proteins for a start i don't <{2><[2>know what word <[1>you can word <[2>voc er bain marie well we've got to find the right sort of container to <{1><[1>put inside hot water something that's got a lid on it which is <{2><[2>pots with handles it's a jolly nuisance they won't go <{3><[3>in poking out like that <[1>that's what I said <,> these look very nice <[2>what happened to the chocolate did somebody eat it all <[3>raewyn can you get out <{><[>the sliced anglicans <[>that's probably cos anna's melting it oh you're doing it at the moment <.>so so what you do <.>is if this is <.>at if this is at about <{1><[1>fifteen you put your water in there at thirty <.>five <{2><[2>cynthia this'll this'll then warm up the average will be twenty five there'll be a bit of heat loss and so on <[1>they're just anglicans at the moment they're not sliced <[2>yeah well we need to boil the jug don't we mm <{><[>this is boiled <[>now <.>anna <,> well i'll need <{1><[1>a lot more hot water she's got her tape oh that's why i told her to put the thing <{2><[2>over here <[1>oh well DO IT OVER HERE MUM no no here <[2>OH WELL I CAN TAKE IT OUT jolly nuisance anna's getting angry now <&>7:28 <&>break in tape so eight seconds not transcribed <&>7:36 well first of all get the apple juice up to twenty five right put that on now um see i went over with anna we looked at avery scales we're <{1><[1>going to obviously need some scales at the winery with my five hundred grams and when they're doing sugar in kilos so many kilos and that it's <.>hopeful hopeless <{2><[2>and <.>they're <.>hopeful but it's a hundred and seventy dollars for <[1>voc <[2>hopeful laughs yeah i wouldn't bother at the moment the scales that go up <{1><[1>to five kilos <{2><[2>for three hundred <{3><[3>dollars <[1>but they word <[2>i wouldn't bother at the moment <&>8:00 <[3>it's ONLY a little bit i mean you only have to do <.>it <{><[>word you have to do it maybe twenty times but it's only like once a year so <[>but it's a very rough estimate when you're doing twenty bags so a hundred and seventy grams for <.>twenty you end up it's costing about eight dollars a time it's like going to the pictures laughs well <{><[>that's good <[>only <.>costs it only costs me six dollars to go to the pictures cos i'm a student <{><[>oh well <[>FIVE LITRES has got to be heated up all five litres i voc haven't got basins or anything big enough for that <.>i i HONESTLY CAN'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING <.>TO you could borrow <{><[>that pot that i did the tineke's soep in <[><.>okay yep <{><[>okay <[>it's in belgium yes shona good <{><[>idea <[>now work that out and get the juice <{><[>up <[>I CAN'T WORK IT OUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF <{><[>THE TIME <[>we've got to get that apple juice to twenty five <{><[>degrees <[>wait a minute TEN <.>GRAMS NO <{><[>NO NO all you have to do is get the apple juice to twenty five degrees and then we'll inoculate it <[>still have to do it in a different container <&>sighs <,,><&>3 now he needs that twenty five degrees where's my big pot and that's word but is it okay <{><[>to do it in three lots <[>measure it <&>8:53 <&>break in tape so nineteen seconds not transcribed <&>9:12 in fact i'll go and get some bigger towels shona there's a couple of <.>big oh are they all being used the bath towels <{><[>are they <[>yep pen? oh well i <{><[>gave you a pen <[>oh no you didn't what did you <.>do <.>it here it is you had it in your HAND there might be bigger ones there right half fill small tank i've got that far then you <{><[>insulate it for twenty four hours <[>from <.>number no <.>from <.>from from number five from number five in the <{><[>new one isn't it <[>yeah <,,><&>9 so this is <.>at what's the <{><[>time now from fifteen <[>so there should be fifteen litres when <.>you if that was twenty <{><[>five <[>he said do this twenty four hours from now so do it at ten oclock tomorrow <,,><&>5 yeah cos this has got to go for twenty four hours first is that right <{><[>yeah <[>that goes back in <&>10:00 the fridge <,> this has to be cooled down because it's too warm <,,><&>3 that one's warm too well put them in the bucket have you got a bucket put what in all this apple juice it's not going to stay in <{><[>that <[>oh yes well i <{><[>suppose it's <[>put it in the apple bucket yeah well i'll have to take the <{1><[1>apples out put it in a <.>big <{2><[2>you know in a <{3><[3>carton we got a carton? <[1>apples out <[2>first voc <[3>dad? eh? ten a m tuesday which is tomorrow half <.>fill half fill small tank from number five insulate inside twenty four hours then on <.>wednesday on wednesday you split that four ways so it'll go into the er into four tanks into tanks one to four whatever into four tanks just choose any four tanks isn't there <.>supposed shouldn't it go back in number five no <.>ANY this is going to be split four ways into any four <{><[>tanks <[>well tell us which four tanks you want because <{><[>there's six tanks <[>because tomorrow <.>mike by post should arrive what was fast posted last thursday okay fast post is slower than ordinary but word ought to send it by courier fast post is always slow <{1><[1>yes yeah yeah courier at least you <{2><[2>might word <[1>yes <[2>fast post'll arrive back and that can <&>11:00 just be direct inoculated that's some other stuff some more stuff that's more of this but it's all been grown and you don't have <{><[>to go through all this <[>oh so shall we put it in the four old ones so <.>there's <.>there's there's five tanks there isn't <{><[>there <[>we'll put it in the four old ones then <{><[>we'll word <[>yeah there's SIX tanks there's six tanks <.>cos one of them's a little wee one five and <.>a half well it doesn't matter about the sixth one <{><[><.>just <.>into this gets split into four tanks <[>okay okay into one to four yeah <.>and and the fifth tank <.>you <.>direct you sprinkle over top and THEN you'll have to <.>spray huh? sixth tank you sprinkle <{><[>over top <[>and then you'll have to spray <.>and and do some plunging to get this mixed up in the tank <,,> can't we just plunge eh can't we just plunge no <.>we cos we want to sort of get it <.>all i mean <{><[>plunging might <.>st might still be localised <[>might be heat oh if you spray it around <.>a and plunge it <{><[>but don't <.>plunge but don't plunge too vigorously cos you might sink the cap <,> <.>on on the other tanks you know on the old ones new ones fine you still have to do all the spraying and plunging on that now it means that while that tank's being used you won't be able to do any pumping and spraying over you'll just <&>12:00 have to plunge by hand morning and night <[>spray and plunge <{><[>oh <[>while what tank's being used that <.>new voc this little tank we've got full of wine oh right yeah <,> while it's <{><[>still on we can't spray over the others <[>oh voc <,,><&>6 okay by the time you get that in the bucket it'll probably cool it down to twenty five anyway yeah oh it's cool <{><[>NOW <[>and what <.>do what do we do today i reckon it's cooled down <{><[>now <[>well you got to <.>plunge plunge and spray today just all in one tank just that one tank and plunge the small one? and the small one yeah but i don't think much is going to happen with that well if <.>it in it <{1><[1>if you wait quarter of an hour you can drop <{2><[2>shona and me down the hill and then <{3><[3>you can go off <.>t NO <,> <.>sh whoever's going out to the winery is that anna and <{4><[4>raewyn is it <[1>wait a minute twenty six <[2>what is it <[3>ME? <[4>anna and me i guess okay well you don't have much choice in <{><[>the matter really <[>drop shona and me in town i'll go and get the toyota shona <{><[>deviously arranged an interview with <.>l lyle laker very devious indeed <[>shona can walk home after her interview i think it's clever <&>13:00 boy it stinks laughs what the malolactic OW that's a nutrient it's boiling water mum i know it's boiling water i splashed myself <&>13:08 <&>14:44 i don't think we should do it too <.>c <.>if the thing is if it's too cold it won't kill it but it just won't grow yeah if it's too warm it'll <{><[>kill it <[>it'll kill it so is it still too hot the <{><[>hardest thing is going to be having to try and keep that at a certain temperature isn't it <[>still it's twenty seven <{><[>yep <[>oh i'd just take it out <.>every you know <.>s you just wrap it up lots and lots of clothes <&>15:00 and things and leave it in the hot water cupboard <{><[>that's probably too HIGH for the shelves isn't it? <[>bit of tinfoil word well take the <{><[>chilly bin <[>well you did it last year i wasn't here <,,><&>5 <&>sighs <{><[>um <[>it'll fit in the bottom <{><[>won't it <[>what <.>about have you got a little tub a what a little washing tub or something a washing tub no oh would <.>that your big mixing bowl fit <{><[>i don't know <[>i don't think five litres would go in that and i don't think our little rubbish buckets are big enough mm yeah THEY would be THEY would be yeah but <{><[><.>five <[>five litres you can <.>fit is that five litres all <{><[>gone in there <[>yeah just practise with five litres of water yeah well first of all let's measure this and see <.>how whether we can get it into the cupboard right from there it's <.>befo below the elbow about there she's going to be lying down on the floor laughs coughs i got to see this laughs <&>15:57 <&>tape is turned off so one minute thirty five seconds not transcribed <&>17:32 dad got sliced <{><[>anglican <[>yeah it's the last piece left where's my fudge where's your fudge shona brought it out didn't she give you a piece all laugh load of rubbish <,> you <{><[>little weasel <[>don't look at ME little weasel all laugh is that your look go out to the kitchen and run around after me you slave it's not working very well <&>17:52 <&>18:56 that's like the question all but all but seven the man the farmer the farmer with twenty sheep all but seventeen died how many were left yes <&>19:00 yeah <{><[>seventeen <[>seventeen ha i know that one <,> it took me ages to figure it out though oh <{><[>you were only three were you <[>figure what out yeah i was <{><[>about word <[>a farmer had seventeen sheep all <.>b laughs sixteen sick sheep and all but <.>six had six six sheep no sixty <{><[>six <[><.>n had sixty six <.>sick had sixty six sheep <.>and sixty sick sheep sixty <{><[>six sick sheep <[>and all but six died <{><[>how many were left <[>and all but six died yeah <[>were they <.>indian were they indian sheep were they sikh they were sioux <{><[>sioux <&>pronounced sju <[>sixty sioux sheep laughs sixty six sioux <{><[>sick sheep <[>no you've got <.>thes the african <{><[>black belly <[>sixty six laughs who's got an african black belly <{><[>in <.>african <[>it's a breed of sheep oh what's <{1><[1>that famous saying of yours <{2><[2>western airport <[1>hey have you ever <.>heard <[2>well <.>your what's yours authentic styling <{><[><.>by by western airport <[>a tropical strawberry swelling or something what's <{><[>yours <[>what oh a tropical strawberry like <{><[>swelling <[>a strawberry like swelling <{1><[1>what's that what's that her favourite <{2><[2>tropical disease <[1>a tropical disease <[2>yaws y a w s <[2>yaws he asked what yaws is oh what's yaws all laugh haven't you heard that <{><[>one before <[>what's your favourite tropical disease <&>19:51