<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>1:00 oh yeah yeah yeah went down for a week tut caught up with family and all that sort of thing and how are your sons great yeah yeah good <,> yep um well one of them's um <,,> sniffs fifteen going through a bit of a bolshy stage but that's all right what towards you or towards everyone in <{><[>general <[>oh no towards the world <{1><[1>laughs towards the world in general <{2><[2>mm? <[1>oh <,,> yeah you know <.>he'll <[2>well he'll pass through that i beg your pardon he'll pass through it well hopefully he will yeah well you did <,> well yeah that's not to say that he will but um you never know <.>w all things being <.>w equal he should shouldn't he and what about your other son <,> is he going to come up here next year oh he was talking about that for a start but er i think he might be <&>2:00 changing his mind a bit now cos there's a very good um he was going to do an art course up here <,> at wellington polytech at wellington polytech yeah but there's a very very good art course at er the nelson polytech um probably a better one for his purposes so um tut now he's er contemplating that er probably also with the idea in mind that it's cheaper to live in nelson for him than it would be for him to live up here well i suppose if <.>he's if he's got family nearby he <.>might um well yes voc but <{><[>kind <.>of <[>that's kind of his thinking? mm? that was part of his thinking? tut i would imagine that's part of his thinking yeah but it's not part of yours? <.>my part of my thinking was that we were going to get rid of him <{><[>laughs <,> not um tut not that there's anything wrong him <.>they're they're both good guys but you get to the stage where you're sick of teenagers <,,> you just want them to go <[>laughs <&>3:00 can <{><[>you word <[>doesn't matter how or where just as long as they go laughs tut <,> and um did you see any good films at the film festival tut yeah oh well yeah i saw documentaries i saw um sniffs tut er manufacturing consent oh was that good yeah excellent yeah i would have liked to have seen that but i was in auckland mhm do you think it will show on t v tut um i doubt it it was about two and a half three hours long <,> um it <.>would there were actually two of them tut er <{><[>i wouldn't think it would show on t v but you never know <[>and <.>did did it um tell you anything that you didn't know like did it give you <{><[>any <,> <.>interesting <[>oh yeah lots yeah i didn't know he was a political activist for instance and <.>th was <.>it is it an <.>au <.>autobiogr biographical sort of thing as well it was a documentary about him <&>4:00 yeah <,> about his ideas and it had quite a bit to say about his role in um tut protesting against the vietnam war <,,> i think he was one of the ones primarily responsible for <.>the burning the draft card campaign <,,> it's interesting that he's not a well known sort of a name isn't it not generally <{><[>known not um popularly known yeah <[>no no <.>it er no only to academics <.>and and the type yeah could be too yeah he had <.>very real interesting things to say about <,> tut how consent is manufactured yeah <,,><&>3 and wittgenstein that was the other one oh <.>w i saw that too did you enjoy that yeah that was good yeah yeah it <{><[>was quite um down to earth wasn't it quite simple <[>yeah yeah <&>sighs yeah i <{><[>feel quite an affinity for wittgenstein <&>5:00 <[>well I understood it eh? laughs i said i feel quite an affinity for wittgenstein why oh sending himself mad with philosophical thoughts laughs is <.>that is that what he did do you reckon well yeah that's what he did isn't it you saw it <,> yeah and i didn't interpret it that way didn't you oh he sent himself around the twist didn't he until he finally sorted out his ideas <,,> <{><[>he admitted to that he <.>w <.>he he went around um <,,><&>3 <.>ki um collaring everybody and saying are you a philosopher well give it up before it's too late <[>yeah oh i <.>s i saw him as more of <.>a more as <.>a <,,><&>3 er a <.>w er a <.>w a wealthy young man <.>with <.>with with too much time on his hands sort of thing too much time to <{><[>think about things <&>6:00 <[>yeah but he was a bit round the twist wasn't he i mean he gave all of his inheritance away for instance to his family though tut to his family but i mean it didn't help him do you think that's <.>roun er <.>a a sign of being round the twist voc i think it's a sign of not being very worldly or not very realistic no that's true he was totally totally unrealistic yeah with regard to <.>m um worldly things <{><[>anyway <[>yeah with regard to <.>living living <,> oh <.>i i don't know living in the real world <.>and <,,> mm making a fist of it and then he finally backed himself into a corner didn't he <.>where where he was um he was at oxford even though he didn't want to be there i mean he tried to live in the real world and he couldn't and then there was only one place for him and that was <,> <{><[>at university laughs <[>word do you think that's where we'll all end up pardon do you think that's where we'll all end up <&>7:00 oh no not necessarily but voc um <,,> oh <.>i i had some feeling for his predicament <,> oh yes yes <.>i i remember <.>you you saying <.>that something like that on the stairs once <,,> voc <,> tut when oh when was it beginning of this year i think tut oh no <.>you it was <.>s it was something about voc being where you are and living in the real world <.>and mm what you'd do in the future and what i would do in the future mm <,,> without going into too great a detail tut yes well i don't really remember that <,,> tut i think there was one other <,,> what the hell was the other one i saw <&>8:00 <,,><&>3 was it a documentary i think it was a documentary yeah was it the one about um kuwait no no <,> was it a violent one <,,> oh i know what it was it was um <,,> tut oh it was about er <.>that the american female mass murderer um i forget her name now <&>banging noise i'll have a look for it <.>cos <,,> and that <.>was that was really good that was um <,,> tut not much at all like it might have sounded like it was going to be <&>9:00 <&>turns pages <,,><&>4 but i'm interested how <,,> um <,> a lot of the <.>american americans and american institutions seem to be able to twist facts around <.>to to suit themselves <,> and that <.>seen yes that's right eileen wernos the selling of a serial killer tut that's right supposedly she killed seven men tut and she was sentenced to death on the first one and then they tried her for the next three and sentenced her to death and they're still trying her for the other three <.>and um and it came out during the course of <,> the trials that before she even WENT to court the policeman involved in the case had er sold rights to the film to a film and then there was high interest in it because the fact that she was a female and supposedly a mass murderer they thought well <&>10:00 you know it's good film material here and so the police and um even <.>the even the <.>defence even the defence lawyers all had an interest in seeing her guilty in seeing her convicted so that they could make money out of her did she know this did <.>she um <{><[>word <[>she discovered it she discovered it halfway through the proceedings yeah but she wasn't part of it herself no <,> <{><[>no <[>that's a bit rough isn't it oh pretty weird and so what's the outcome tut er well the film was made in late ninety one i think so it's kind of all hitting the fan now <,> but i <.>mean now why is this <{><[>why is this sort <.>of oh is this an airbed <[><.>it's <.>it's <.>it's it's an <{><[>airbed yeah yeah <[>or something one that you pump up with <.>a with a pump with <{><[>a pump <[>yes laughs no wonder it's <.>so so what happened to your old that old <&>11:00 single thing that <.>was oh well it went <{><[>it's down in the storeroom <[>it's no more old beds that's all right though you can sit on that not with <.>much not with much ease <,,> oh i was going to say how did you get it up the stairs but <.>obviously mm? i was going to say how did you get <.>it cos i thought it was <.>in a mattress so i was going to ask you how you managed to get it into the <,> room but if it was flat <{><[>and you pumped it up once you got inside you wouldn't have had ANY trouble <[>mm mm tut no it's very comfortable is it <.>like sort of like a waterbed i <{><[>suppose <[>tut yeah pretty much except you need a lot of um bedclothes underneath as well because it gets cold underneath if there's not a lot of bedclothes there <.>under between here <.>and the mattress and <{><[>the floor <[><.>b between where you sleep and the mattress oh yeah oh well you need um a woolrest yeah <{><[>yeah <[>have you got one of those no i've got um duvet inners mm <&>12:00 and blankets on it <,> but apart from that um tut it's really comfortable MM oh tut now what were we talking about oh this female mass murderess murderer mm oh coughs so then that's all you saw well that's enough just three yeah cos it's expensive this year <.>i'm yeah and there's no discount that's what i meant mm <,> tut and i didn't have time either cos all my work comes in these few weeks <,,><&>3 mm and i didn't want to get distracted with the real world laughs by the real world <,,><&>3 i suppose it depends on which film you see whether it's the real world <.>or i beg your pardon depends on which film you SEE whether <{><[>it's the real world or another make <&>13:00 believe world or A make believe world <[>sniffs mm <,,><&>4 tut there's one i would have liked to see i don't know if you saw it <.>the that seven thousand dollar one oh no <{><[>no <[>you didn't bother with that no mm no i just see all the LUSH epics do you <{><[>oh yeah cos there was one like that in last year that i really enjoyed it was called um tut slacker did you see slacker <[>yeah no yeah it's a similar kind of thing i think and really good not too violent <.>or oh no not violent at all just wacky <,,> mm why which ones did you see well i saw um that wittgenstein one um <&>14:00 <,> and i saw orlando mhm and that was beautiful that was lovely and um tut <,,> um <,> i saw a couple that i was a <.>bit word i saw um <,,> <.>orson an orson welles film mm and that was SO boring i thought i was so disgusted with him i thought well i'm never going to sit through another of <{><[>his selfindulgent <,> trips again <[>laughs laughs but then i <.>s i'd cos i was right in the middle of having the flu then and it just seemed to be dragging on and it was in black and white and um <,> i was feeling awful so i couldn't enjoy it anyway and then i saw um um olivier olivier and i didn't enjoy that at all i felt quite cheated when i saw it at that it had lots of hype <&>15:00 oh yeah tut yeah i think that's um <,> tut something i'm becoming aware of is that even even film festivals is not really alternative anymore it's it's really <,> kind of highly promoted isn't it and so um when you listen to critics comments you have to read between the lines <{><[>and <[>mm mm <&>15:21