<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>2:48 yes well i'm supposed to be at this ARTS council hui swallows are you now let's have a look <&>rustling of papers QT is reading for next seventeen seconds well you know in nineteen eighty two we had a big hui <,,> oh <,,><&>3 <&>3:00 of maori artists <,,><&>3 and we were all asked to talk <,,> <&>rustling of papers stops and <,> and make submissions oh sniffs er we were supposed to talk about tut priorities <,> for maori artists and funding and where the funding was supposed to go and all that sort of stuff yeah so we earnestly did <.>i that <,> and of course a group of us did a huge push for <,> you know maori women artists mm and where did it get us <,> nowhere <,> nowhere well what are they <.>meeting what's the hui about <,> <.>well <.>that but that's so typical though lauren isn't it i mean it's <{><[>so <[><.>well it's twelve years later mm <&>4:00 and we're going to repeat the same exercise laughs oh i see a vision into what the arts council should achieve identification of key issues pertinent to the development of maori art it's bureaucratic garbage mm just makes me angry tut a view of maori art on the <.>internat international scene even laughs well you know <.>th the whole thing once were warriors <{1><[1>laughs rena accepting her sniffs coughs her award in <{2><[2>canada <[1>ha ha <[2>and making and making <{><[>her spiteful speech <[>laughs inhales gee she's <.>t she's been a bit bloody naughty hasn't she well no she's um she got the sort of she's the country bumpkin no class eh and when her when she gets nervous <.>the <&>katie brown put it beautifully that when rena gets nervous all her brains fly out the window laughs because she's actually bright cookie oh she <{><[>is <&>5:00 <[>but she's a bright cookie who's had very little in the way of opportunities you know to go and push herself why <.>i is <.>she she was really but i <{><[>thought her <.>sp her speech in canada was very spiteful <[>she really got voc yes i thought so <{><[>too <[>i thought all she had to say was thank you laughs you know do what lee tamahori did because it WAS prestigious the one at montreal quite right montreal is actually bigger than the cannes film festival tut and HE knew that cos he <.>jus he was quite overcome just said thank you that's all she needed to do thank you to the jury i mean robert redford made a famous speech one year when he accepted an oscar and he simply said thank you very much laughs <{><[>laughs sniffs laughs <[>simply he was so shocked <,> cos he was up against stiff competition oh these biscuits are nice yes they're very wicked but i <{1><[1>think they're an improvement on your cigarettes and your <{2><[2>your your efforts to stop smoking <[1>they ARE wicked <[2>they are they are lauren they're a definite <&>6:00 coughs <{><[>word <[>oh look here comes the supporters' bus yeah i've just <{1><[1>just had to shift my car from the garage too <{2><[2>into the garage <[1><.>tha <[2>and did you squeeze it into the gap no into <{><[>my garage at home <[>oh oh oh you just walked around oh that's right i didn't think you'd be so <{1><[1>lazy and <{2><[2>disgusting as to drive around <[1>mm <[2>laughs laughs tut the next door neighbour <.>ask came and asked me if she could park in our driveway because <,> her mum's very sick the next door neighbour mm just er <.>got been diagnosed with bowel <.>counc cancer tut <,> she's taking her into hospital <,> i think we've got a lot of tut diseases that they don't know mm they being the health professionals don't know much about <,> and they call everything cancer <.>well this is the place is just getting riddled with it oh you know everyone <.>you <&>7:00 well my cousin catriona supposed to have bowel cancer catriona's fine <,> she's set about to do something about it yeah and to <{><[>beat it <[>change your diet this is the big thing with <.>c bowel cancer <&>pronounced as councer and and your attitude mm definitely up here <{><[><.>s <[>and get rid of the stress tut it's a real mind thing and and positive changing your whole <.>posi and getting the body <.>to to to actually fight it <.>y itself <{1><[1>its own natural <,> immunity system <,> but that was the exciting thing about the programme was um i mean er er for the first week no alcohol no coffee tut no chocolate or sweets er no red meat twenty minutes walk a day <.>s ten to twelve glasses of water a day and <,> lots of deep breathing laughs <{2><[2>laughs <&>8:00 <[1>mm <[2>but you don't have alcohol much <{><[>in your home <[>nah no i didn't find that part hard but i just found it interesting it was a combination of all those and you don't have <.>red red meat tut except hamburgers <{><[>now and then laughs i don't you know <[>mm and you go for walks anyway yes but i've been going <{><[><.>rig religiously <[>so you just did it in spare <,> <{><[>extra extra time <[>cos some <.>of some of the <.>poor voc er younger ones were just they were it was their craving for red meat just about unhinged them laughs sniffs they were saying they found the thing <.>th the thing they found the <.>mo one of the most difficult things was actually giving up their red meat for a <.>week and giving up their alcohol for a week well it's done amazing things for your skin and you no longer have big um furrows under your eyes or shadows oh <.>that's that's why i <{><[>stared at you when you came in cos you look quite different <[>oh oh you're probably wondering who this face is in the mirror <&>9:00 laughs oh it's still taking a while though for all the toxins to get out is it <.>skil still coughing a bit and do <{1><[1>you all have a um <,> a support group <{2><[2>time <[1>my chest <[2>yes <,> yep at work yep <{><[>it's all work time <[>is that part of their programme that's part of the programme tut and it's in six weeks we'll get our first certificate <&>with high pitched voice mm we'll all get a little certificate and and at six months we get another certificate <{><[>and then at the end <[>oh now i know what i was watching on te karere cos this <{><[>man who used to be a huge huge smoker i think he <.>mos must have smoked two packets a day and they showed him before and after and he looked i thought he looked a very stressed man and sort of frantic all the time <,> and he was the first one er to come off a programme and he got a certificate <,> but now he's got very preachy <[>voc yeah well that's the trouble eh <{><[>laughs <&>10:00 <[>and i thought word i thought laughs i could see by his whanau's expressions that he that they weren't gonna be too happy about it he started <.>ge get on <.>t air and get preaching instead of just saying well look you know i did it cos i wanted to feel better he started to preach well i was really clears throat i was really pleased when i voc had a session with katie and katie brown and katrina tewhiti just on some of the tut makeup stuff <,> and um <,> sat down we had a cup of tea they had their cigarette down again had another cup of tea and they had their another cigarette and i <.>did <.>i it was fine you know i could <{1><[1>it was i knew then that i was through the worst because er tut tut i didn't sort of sit there craving for one while they were having one i didn't <{2><[2>mind the fact that they were smoking <,> voc and it didn't worry me <&>11:00 <[1>there was word <[2>oh really and do they teach you how to cope with that <,> they well really what they teach you to do is that clears throat er that in in the first until you feel comfortable with dealing with it <.>where <.>you to avoid it initially as much as you can or to to take yourself out of vulnerable situations and then you just <.>whe as you <.>beco feel stronger in yourself then you can put yourself back into those situations <,,> you <{><[><.>de you develop other mechanisms to <[>and then and then do they <.>did you i gather you get to talk about all that mm mm <{><[>in the staff room <[>how are the men coping <,,><&>3 they're going through it um <,> just as you know as <.>k the two <.>s on the men there's two pakeha men two maori men uncle jim's one jim thomas oh he said i'm mm yesterday he was feeling <&>12:00 exhales oh <,> i'm really feeling it today you could tell inhales mm i was well he's been a smoker for twenty five thirty years where do you go for your walks oh just down to island bay tut what about at work oh i go out lunchtime <{><[>and i just go to round the city round the wharfs and <.>i it's really nice round there at lunchtime <[>just around the city yes interesting at our marae because we've just we managed smoke free with the help of the health collective <.>o on the campus mm though they're a bit preachy and they started going on and i said to them no no no leave it to us <,> WE'LL um tut make it smoke free but we'll do it our way <,> and we kept talking about it we kept mentioning it every week laughs <&>13:00 and saying we understood people's addictions and then of course we had a marae taurima who was chainsmoker rhona mm who seemed to be under constant stress she kept breaking all the rules <,> and the kids kept saying to me oh i thought you said we're gonna make the <.>ma the marae the dining room and that all smokefree i said yeah and then rhona left <.>she to move back to rotorua you know because kiri's got so sick te ano ma and oh yeah <{><[>i know <[>as <.>sh right the week she left <&>QT pours out drink i put up a smoke free notice <,,><&>3 and also when we had the um do you want sugar international women's music festival and we hosted the pohiri and all that mhm we got our funding from smoke free <&>14:00 oh right <.>tha well that makes a difference eh yes so we put up huge notices all round the walls <,> then we said you know we would like to thank our sponsors for the smoke free la la la all the music shops and stuff like that but the the one that got the <.>b we gave the biggest <.>s sort of most vivid notice to was the smokefree people <,> and <.>a because of that our cook walked out <,> <{1><[1><&>name didn't turn the zips on and when we came to have <{2><[2>afternoon tea there was no hot water <[1>laughs <[2>laughs sort of a a real up you gesture <{><[>laughs <[>yeah so we said to her when she came back that her job had gone coughs and next we wanted to change the way we run these and she was moving away <,> and um <,> <&>15:00 people walk in and they just know now mm but we got you know tut this is a smokefree marae well <.>b <.>y <.>y <{><[><.>y <[>it's been really hard for <{1><[1>the <.>s for the students who <{2><[2>smoke it's not just maori women that are smoking <{3><[3>it's it's lots of young ones who are smoking and we help <&>pronounced as top them talk it through and what we've provided for them out the back is um big tins with sand in them and a few chairs cos what's really interesting is that most of our smokers are our workers <[1>exhales <[2>oh it it would be <[3>no yeah they're the ones that who turn up regularly to help you you know put out all the furniture clean the windows and tut wash the dishes er we've solved that problem by having a starline dishmaster installed so now we just have um students stacking dishes cos we found that a lot of them were spending hours at the marae helping <,> you know when you've washed sixty <&>16:00 plates and dinner plates and bread plates and cups and saucers and it's a big effort mm so mm so we put a starline dishmaster in which does everything one of these machines that zaps stuff through so we don't have intensive labour on our marae now and we don't have these kids hanging round hanging out for a smoke and if they smoke they go home to their flat and <.>most um tut find it <,> you know quite acceptable and <.>there's they go on about how nice the marae smells mm you know so i thought oh yes tricky though it is well i think you're very brave i should go on one of those programmes mind you i'm now a half hearted smoker laughs <{><[>laughs <[>one packet lasts me a week and manuka suggested i give it away and i said i would like to actually eventually <,> <{><[>to stop altogether and then i get with friends who all puffing up large frantically puffing <,> and then i think oh that's what i used to look like <[>yeah <&>17:00 when you when you look at the statistics though we're i mean we're so high it's not much voc <.>it <.>th the i mean it's well over fifty percent of maori women smoke over the age of fifteen so you've got you know the chances are that you get in with your mates <{><[>with all our women friends <.>what <[>mm yeah voc half of them will be smokers yep <,> see i used to smoke <.>f first thing in the morning yeah and one famous morning i nearly set fire to my bedding laughs i know it's not funny but laughs <{><[>laughs <[>i reached over and grabbed a fag and lit up mm and um then i used to smoke all the time at work <,> and now i don't care now <&>18:00 mm see i only smoke it in the evening which is stupid if i'm if i can last that long throughout the <{1><[1>day this is <{2><[2>dopey you see <[1>well <[2>yeah it's not still it's and i think it's <{><[>a habit <[>yeah it is <,> but that's <.>wh i must admit that's my <.>m my most vulnerable time now is still it's the evenings tut and that's even even though er i mean at least with <.>m round round the corner there the the house was smoke free you know but so that's that makes it a lot easier for me in giving up but i still find at nights i still think oh and that's when i get usually get a inhales i'll go i wonder if i'll have some chocolate biscuits or some laughs hot toast with heaps of butter <.>i melted butter in it but i haven't put on any weight yet so i've been oh <{><[>yeah <[>i just keep drinking water eh see my brother tawhiti used to be a heavy heavy smoker <,> <{><[>athlete and sportsman that he is and one day he stopped he went cold turkey <[>mm <&>19:00 mm bang and finished and now he doesn't care about smoking tut well that's that's the thing with this programme it was it was a cold turkey programme so i mean we just went from <&>snaps fingers and my other brother <{><[>jonathan who was a massive smoker <[>straight through mm he <{><[>just stopped <[>word cold turkey just <&>snaps fingers finished <{><[>gone <[>like well that was craig too craig <.>t cold turkeyed overnight with <.>t from two two packs a day <,> when he stopped <,> but it was interesting the er guy was saying that <.>f for men and women there is there's definitely a different different patterns in the giving up smoking that for women there's a there's a LOT more emotional um elements to the smoking that the um tut um <,> sort of <.>get in terms of things like coping <&>20:00 with anger or grief or inhales stress um all those elements and and i know i was thinking that er the most vulnerable time we we were all hoping there could be no big major tangi during that during that week that we'd all um er er because we'd all be vulnerable as i mean <{><[>laughs oh and of course then <.>w some of the some of the group sort of helped out down at the marae swallows for mike smith's tangi inhales they were okay though she said it was okay <[>mm mm went through all right but we sort of thought oh this is hine hine riwhata she's on she's one of us word pori totara tut hine said she went to went back home to gisborne went up to a hui a iwi up the coast and there was a roomful it must've been about fifty people <,> there was only her and one other who were not smoking <,> although it wasn't smoking in the room but people were going in in and out going out to have their cigarette <&>21:00 outside and she said about <.>fifty out of fifty people only two of them her and one other were not smoking she was sitting there going oh this is getting bad i really would like a cigarette laughs oh <{><[>oh <,> yeah that's hard <&>21:13 <[>word