<&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies <&>Victoria University of Wellington <&>side one <&>15:00 but yeah i mean everyone had written them off eh <,> straight away but they just went no we don't <,> we don't care we're just gonna go and <,> well everyone expected to do our best people like argentina and west germany to go in and <{><[>i mean <[>oh they got wasted laughs word <{><[>totally wasted man <[>but i i laughed i laughed when we heard that argentina lost but i laughed even more when i heard that the west germans were put out they were such big heads i know man i was just i i actually i mean i'm <.>in been involved with soccer for years and years well i used to play it eh and um clears throat but cos i got into league and that and um but i enjoy watching the world cup eh i really enjoyed it i enjoyed you know actually i'd come at night and say oh you know what happened today it was like wow one of my friends in hamilton er <,,> she's from vanuatu and she had this italian tee shirt word they lost the final she ripped it up she was too ashamed to wear it round varsity in case she got a hard time <&>16:00 oh no laughs <,,> no i actually i really enjoyed watching that soccer <,,><&>3 no there's some good stuff in the end well i i watched er brazil play holland oh yeah yeah now i thought that was one of the best games <{><[>that i saw <[>yeah it was yeah that was a good game especially when he scored that third goal <{><[>how you know he curved it between those two guys <[>oh yeah oh that's right <{><[>yeah <,> that was a oh <[>and watch it come round and right into that corner no some of those guys eh and <.>y the way they curve their shots it's just <{><[>awesome whoa <[>yeah obviously he must've just sat and looked okay that that guy's legs open <.>a are wide enough i'll see if i can go through yeah and away he went and there it is <,,><&>3 oh man no i was just i liked er watching the skill level in these <{><[>guys eh <[>yeah yeah just oh their control was just awesome <&>17:00 especially when you know and they can cut right through the opposition and then just tap it in when noone's in front of the post oh that's right eh yeah word <,,><&>7 nah skill level's just incredible <,> <{><[>cos that <[>it's funny <,> french stated that noone will win the world cup next world cup on penalties they say they're not going to permit it <,,> they get um <,> er scoreless games or draws they'll just go into replays is that right yeah <,,> exhales oh man that could be a logistical nightmare eh it could be yeah especially if you end up with long games that you know where people you know er where teams there's no outright winner at the end <,> <{><[>you know if it is scoreless <,> replays i mean that's gonna be <[>yeah well that that's what happened to brazil in <&>18:00 about <,,> i can't remember which <.>world about three or four world cups they they got put out of the competition and they never lost a game mm they drew all their games <{><[>but other teams got in by higher goals' counts and things like that <,,> and they'd got through that they lost in their grouping because um <[>yes clears throat they had a low goal count and if if you it worked out if if if two teams had lost one and then won two it <.>paid it was better off than drawing three or something like that yeah and <{><[>they were spewing like hell cos they get put out of the world cup without losing a game <[>yeah three yeah well that's right but <,> but the other thing is like er if they take it to replay what if they end up with a scoreless replay <,,> well they yeah what <,,> they do it in f a cup yeah <&>19:00 they you know if they go in for a a draw after overtime they just go for a replay but that's just the final isn't it yep <,,> yeah well i think that's just the final i'm just thinking <,> <{><[>oh so you're talking about you're talking about f a are you talking about world cup final <[>word no no in f a in in england oh yeah but you know when you yeah got before you were talking about world cup final the actual final game or yeah <{><[>well i <[>the whole series i think they're gonna run the whole series like that well they'll probably er oh not not the <,,> not the groupings but once they go into the quarters and the semis <,,><&>3 <{1><[1>a lot i think too a lot people thought that world cups this world cup would be real strong defensive stuff <,> and <{2><[2>that teams might only go to get one up and then defend their lead rather than than but that you know it sort of changed changed from what people thought it would do <[1>word <[2>yeah clears throat cos where's the next world cup france <&>20:00 it is in france yep definitely in france oh yeah you know eh cos word it was surprising that um french weren't there yeah that's right cos they got they got knocked out england got knocked <{><[>out <[>knocked out yeah actually i wasn't surprised england or france got knocked out clears throat their soccer is just atrocious now oh yeah but that's another thing too i think that <,> that you know they've they've <,> you know they're quite heavy in heavily involved in getting players from the continent over and stuff like that and it must you know deplete the local players mm or sort of push them out yeah but that's the thing clubs wants clubs are in it for the money they want performance you know good performances from their teams and from their players and so they go and they buy <{><[>the best <[>yeah well big names too <{><[>attract the crowds <[>at the expense of their own <,,><&>8 and yet you'll see very <&>21:00 few <,,> english players actually um get contracts in other countries <,,><&>4 they want to they're <.>n just not good enough laughs and i'd believe it eh <,> that's the case <,,><&>6 <.>o did you see um on on the world cup at one part they had they interviewed er some of the germans clears throat and they were talking about their training techniques and they have coaching schools from for the kids right from <{><[>when they're young <[>oh <.>yea oh no no i didn't and <.>their they sort of you know right from actually i think i heard something someone word they um they keep an eye on the real low grades and they see promising players that they and they pick them out and take them to special schools and things like that so <&>22:00 they can sort of develop them mm <,,><&>5 yeah i suppose they've got a <,,> must have quite a good programme going yeah it's the same in tennis tennis these days they start they <{><[>start them really really early <[>yeah well it's like gymnastics yeah <{><[>well they <[>they start real early laughs that's even earlier yeah cos oh actually yeah we were watching the other night when they had that those olympics um you know the the previews to the games that oh not the olympics the kiwi gymnasts that are going to oh yeah commonwealth and how some had to pull out with stress fractures and stuff like that and i i said to lynn man i hate i wouldn't put my kids through that eh <{><[>you know they i wouldn't push them to push themselves at that that age and start breaking bones things like that eh it's not worth it <&>23:00 <[>mm mm but then i suppose it <,,> some of it comes down to individual you know they they might decide you know that's what i want to be so you've got to encourage it but you know <,,><&>4 now yeah cos my old man reckons that <,> when he played rugby there was a guy he played with mm that he said he should've made should have made the all blacks cos he was sort of super fast off his feet and if a chaser if someone kicked ball he'd and the fullback or the wing or something like that grabbed it this guy would if he was playing on the flanker could run up and they could no way could the other guy get round him he was sort of that quick off his feet but clears throat um the old man said he got to provincial level but he never sort of too slack with training oh yeah and things like that and he and he never um never went any further cos he'd never turn up to training <{><[>and things like that <[>yeah that's the thing eh those guys got heaps of <&>24:00 talent heaps of potential but um they're just lazy <,,><&>3 i was like one of these guys like you can look at a lot of people that who make the all blacks a lot of them <,> will have been guys who noone would ever have picked when they were younger yeah to have been all blacks yeah i mean tane norton was one <.>he you know they said you know <,,> oh when he was at te aute i think he was at te aute oh yeah they said that um he was just you know another so so average rugby player nothing special difference between him and they said there was another guy in the same team at the same year who everyone was touting to be an all black well you know what happened the guy who they're touting an all black was just too lazy wouldn't train <{><[>okay and went off and disappeared and tane norton just put everything into his training and here's this guy they said noone knew noone said that he was gonna make it and here he did <,> only cos he put the effort in and now ended up an all black <[>yeah yeah i'm sure er my cousin said that <.>walt they <&>25:00 were at h p with walter little oh yeah yeah and they could tell by then that he was on track yeah <{><[>yeah <[>to be an all black cos of you know er the way he was playing and stuff like that and his attitude yeah that's right and sort of he was sort of heaps above you know he was sort of really stood out of the pack compared to the rest of them but then again h p haven't got much of a rugby team these days yeah laughs got some good players just that oh the school's really gone <.>dow i don't know how many people they've got there now but it <,,> their numbers are <,> i don't know a hundred and twenty even less mm word so you can't expect <{><[>it to <.>prac <,,> um that you know that that good a team out of that many <[>word mm <,,><&>5 <&>26:00 voc one of my cousins was oh was at h p oh he was there till till the sixth form right from <,> um from word and stuff like that and then he got to the sixth form and he got sick of it and he went to he came down and stayed with my parents at taranaki stayed there for a year <{><[>and it's sort of <.>o opposite schools you know h p is pretty well ninety nine percent maori <[>mm oh yeah and he went down to school in taranaki where it was so special clears throat to be the yeah opposite <,> and <.>he but he said he quite liked it and i said oh what what's so bad about h p and he said oh he said the hassle is these days is they take all these social welfare kids and um put them in schools and all they do is disrupt class <,> you know he said you just can't you know it just wrecks the whole class atmosphere and he said down at down at where he was at taranaki they the kids are all motivated yeah <&>27:00 and er things like that and if if they're not they would have dropped out by then yeah cos they wouldn't have anyone saying look oh they should be word something mm <,> you know it's not really a racial thing eh it's just a lot of it comes down to who's doing the teaching and how motivated the kids <{><[>are <[>yeah yeah and so it's not a matter of race or anything race creed colour culture like it's just <,,><&>3 exactly what that guy said motivation yeah and if they don't want to be there then they <{><[>make it pretty obvious <,> <,> and then if they do want to be there well good environment to be in <[>laughs that's what my auntie said one of my aunties taught at secondary schools for twenty years oh no actually one of them one of them only taught in secondary schools for two years and then went lecturing at varsity and she said no i'm never ever gonna back to a secondary school again there there you've got to try and make kids learn yeah <&>28:00 even if even if they don't want to at uni most of the kids here are there cos they want to learn yeah cos they want to yeah and they're <{1><[1>it's much much easier and if they don't want to learn <{2><[2>they won't turn up and you just fail them anyway <[1>clears throat <[2>clears throat mm so it's and if they don't want to learn then they eventually disappear yeah word that's true eh i mean it's like people say to me oh want are you gonna be and do you want to be a teacher cos of the degree i was doing i <.>was laughs i'm thinking i don't want to <{><[>be a teacher <[>laughs no no well i i was the same i actually a lot of people thought i'd go teaching and i said look just cos just cos i come from a family of teachers doesn't mean i want to go teaching no no i actually think it's a hard job no <{><[>word job word <[>word yeah especially secondary school yeah christ yeah much easier much much things that a lot of a lot lot of other things i could do a lot of much easier on me than teaching oh true <,> i mean yes nothing against teachers <&>29:00 but hell <,> clears throat <,,><&>6 so how many hours are you teaching at the moment <{><[>laughs <[>laughs um clears throat i'm only doing about three at the moment oh that's okay yes it's okay oh it pays well yeah although um mind you i will not teach kids so there's <{><[>a difference <[>yeah yeah i was doing session assistant work i used to only do actually i i could only work eight hours work anyway otherwise it stuffs up your student allowance yeah that's right yeah and so i but to me that was if i'd done any more that i'd <.>get i reckon i would've got sick of it <{><[>cos that was enough for me <[>mm oh though word yeah i like teaching oh <,,> i don't like doing it too much cos i mean after a while it gets real yeah getting real repetitive doing the same thing i actually add something to it which is really good i'm more <.>we you know able to add <&>30:00 something to it um <,,> i try not to let it go more than six hours yeah a week or so <,,> yeah with something i've found that when i was teaching especially big er doing sessions that work with big classes you get to know a lot of people yeah and especially though one way of getting to know a lot of people really quick yeah no well you do eh that's that's the one thing i like about it is the you know you meet a lot of new people yeah and you make a lot of contacts too yeah especially if you <.>y you know you see your students mm outside teaching hours yeah well that's that's the um that's the thing with university eh cos i've done so much work there yeah i mean i know you know i know a lot of them eh of those students and then also outside and you you see them in the public sector and that yeah you know a lot of teaching work up out there you know a lot of people up there so get to meet new people you get to so it's networking yeah <&>31:00 and um yeah <,,> i mean i was just up up at the university teaching up there and i still do but not very not very often <,,><&>3 word laughs laughs actually i <.>hav actually i haven't seen hineahi for a while yeah i saw her yesterday how's she getting on oh she's been good yeah <,> looks like she's enjoying her enjoying her role oh cos too sal has dropped exited out of her courses too what's that sal yeah she's exited <&>pronounced xed out oh is that right yeah oh okay yeah her course yeah so er <.>sh otherwise she sort of gets to come and tell me how things are getting on and what they what sort of work they were mm doing and these sort of things like that but er <,,> now i sort of don't er <,> don't get to hear what she's up to <&>32:00 no true well i saw her this morning sal my brother sleeps with her with her cousin oh okay and er <,> she's a cunningham <,> ripeka cunningham oh yeah or aroha but oh she's sometimes she's a little bit like hineahi she talks all the time it's like this one's a real extrovert you know <{><[>word <[>oh yeah yeah yeah talks continuous she's a teacher teaches at um at one of the bilingual units <,> in <&>name but talks all the time you know when she word but hineahi's not that talkative eh <,,> oh she can be <,> i mean she can get quite passionate about a subject <{><[>you know if it's something that she'd really er subject that she <&>32:55 <&>tape cuts off here <[>yeah