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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:12</&>
  

  <WSC#DGB014:0005:Z1>
      what the the abolition of the um the tribunal or or or its <{><[>beginning</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0010:HF>
      <[>no</[></{> what i'm saying that what i'm saying is the type
      of maori policy <{><[>that</[> was pushed at the conference by
      the national party i think could be its destruction

  <WSC#DGB014:0015:Z1>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0020:Z1>
      do you think so

  <WSC#DGB014:0025:HF>
      yep

  <WSC#DGB014:0030:HF>
      i know that they got a the seven hundred delegates gave simon
      upton a standing ovation but the point i'm making is what
      they're suggesting is racially very divisive for the country

  <WSC#DGB014:0035:Z1>
      oh definitely cos i think that the tribunal can only do a um er
      is is actually sort of doing a good job

  <WSC#DGB014:0040:Z1>
      instead of <,> people venting anger on their streets or whatever
      it's it's a sort of a a venting <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>
      <&>1:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0045:HF>
      <[>oh it's</[></{> just a very healthy outlet and it's also a
      valid one

  <WSC#DGB014:0050:Z1>
      mm mm i mean all they can do is do researching <.>an</.> and i
      don't think that's such a such a terrible thing to get an <.>am</.>
      up in arms about cos it's <.>o</.> i mean it's <.>on</.> we're
      only talking about justice and <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0055:HF>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0060:Z1>
      whether things happened a hundred years ago or twenty years ago
      <{1><[1>or</[1> even today <{2><[2>cos</[2> that's another <.>th</.>
      one of its um areas of of contention of making sure the crown
      doesn't act inconsistently with the treaty so i don't see um
      that as a personally i don't find that too much a big a big
      trouble because um there's no reason why the crown should break
      the treaty <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0065:HF>
      <[1>right</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB014:0070:HF>
      <[2>right</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB014:0075:HF>
      no <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0080:Z1>
      so maybe that's why why winston peters and and co want to weaken
      the tribunal so that um maybe if they want to go ahead of this
      treaty there's nothing to really stop them apart from that sort
      of ten percent of of the voting force which doesn't have that
      much <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0085:HF>
      no well winston peters rubbished the the treaty

  <WSC#DGB014:0090:HF>
      um i i'll <&>2:00</&> actually quote what he he said the other
      day about it

  <WSC#DGB014:0095:HF>
      he said <reads><,> how anybody can believe that a poorly drafted
      inadequately worded and inherently contradictory document of a
      hundred and fifty years ago could save maoridom is beyond me</reads>

  <WSC#DGB014:0100:Z1>
      mm well i think that's taking taking <.>maor</.> a maori
      interpretation of of the treaty too far

  <WSC#DGB014:0105:Z1>
      i don't think anyone's saying that the treaty can save us
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0110:HF>
      no <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0115:Z1>
      <.>u</.> um all it can do is um use the the the sort of
      <indig=Maori>kaupapa</indig=Maori> the philosophies behind it of
      <.>g</.> of goodwill tolerance understanding all those the the
      <{><[>positive</[> kinds of things and maybe apply them in
      nineteen ninety <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0120:HF>
      <[>yes</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0125:HF>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0130:Z1>
      cos i i see the problem arising as as of of the breaking of the
      treaty and and the dishonouring of it and <.>tha</.> that's
      where the whole source of um of conflict <?>must of</?> arose
      you know

  <WSC#DGB014:0135:Z1>
      <{><[>that's the way i look at it</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0140:HF>
      <[>yeah i <.>th</.></[></{> i agree with that <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0145:Z1>
      yeah um one other thing <.>i</.> i don't know if you're aware
      but today <&>3:00</&> is the beginning of maori language week
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0150:HF>
      oh yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0155:Z1>
      yes so um as a suggestion <.>o</.> for of of translating and
      having a bilingual name for radio pacific <{><[>cos</[>
      <indig=Maori>irirangi</indig=Maori> is radio

  <WSC#DGB014:0160:HF>
      <[><O>voc</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0165:HF>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB014:0170:Z1>
      and pacific in maori is um well in full it's <indig=Maori>moana
      nui a kiwa</indig=Maori> the big ocean of kiwa he was <{><[>in</[>
      one of an ancient sort of seafarer so shortened maybe
      <indig=Maori>irirangi o te moana</indig=Maori> or something like
      that

  <WSC#DGB014:0175:HF>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0180:HF>
      that's a good idea

  <WSC#DGB014:0185:Z1>
      yeah <.>i</.> i <.>do</.> i don't know if um the listeners out
      there would be in <indig=Maori>tautoko</indig=Maori> in support
      of of of maori language but you know that'd be worth finding out

  <WSC#DGB014:0190:HF>
      what a good idea

  <WSC#DGB014:0195:HF>
      thanks for bringing that to our attention there larry

  <WSC#DGB014:0200:Z1>
      thanks a lot

  <WSC#DGB014:0205:HF>
      right oh <{><[>bye</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0210:Z1>
      <[>bye</[></{> <&>three minutes forty two to six minutes twelve
      seconds monologue by HF not transcribed</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0215:HF>
      robert good evening

  <WSC#DGB014:0220:Z2>
      good evening <O>clears throat</O>

  <WSC#DGB014:0225:Z2>
      is that felix i'm speaking to

  <WSC#DGB014:0230:HF>
      yes robert

  <WSC#DGB014:0235:Z2>
      yes well felix um i'm interested in a in a medical situation
      which i have

  <WSC#DGB014:0240:Z2>
      i wondered if you might be able to help me with some information

  <WSC#DGB014:0245:HF>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB014:0250:Z2>
      <O>clears throat</O> now i was told about um eighteen months or
      two years ago that i have er fairly large gall stones and they
      give me quite a bit of trouble from time to time i'm just
      getting over one bout now <{><[>and</[> as far as i have been
      <O>coughs</O> advised um the removal of the gall bladder itself
      is the only option <,> but i have heard since then that there is
      a machine down in the waikato operated by some private doctors
      which will bombard gall stones <&>7:00</&> with um <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0255:HF>
      <[>yes</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0260:HF>
      laser mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0265:Z2>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB014:0270:HF>
      right <.>a</.> yes and i hear it's very good

  <WSC#DGB014:0275:HF>
      in in fact i hear that probably surgery now isn't er so usual
      for gall bladders <{1><[1>gall <.>st</.></[1> bladder problems

  <WSC#DGB014:0280:HF>
      gall bladder actually i've been there with that one <{2><[2>is</[2>
      one of the most painful <,> <{3><[3>pains</[3> you can have
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0285:Z2>
      <[1>that's right</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB014:0290:Z2>
      <[2>yes</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB014:0295:Z2>
      <[3>yes</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGB014:0300:Z2>
      it is

  <WSC#DGB014:0305:Z2>
      i thought i was going to die on er friday morning but <O>coughs</O>
      i was pulling through that one all right

  <WSC#DGB014:0310:HF>
      have you are you under medical care

  <WSC#DGB014:0315:Z2>
      yes but um it's limited

  <WSC#DGB014:0320:Z2>
      um they're waiting for me to make a decision and er if there can
      be a decision made where i can get something useful um without
      having the bladder removed i'd rather take it that way <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0325:HF>
      well who told you about the treatment in waikato

  <WSC#DGB014:0330:Z2>
      er well i saw the programme on t v er and i assumed from what
      i'd heard that it also included gall bladder <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0335:HF>
      <[>yes</[></{> i've heard it does <&>8:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0340:Z2>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB014:0345:HF>
      so why don't you get your specialist to refer you to their to
      there for treatment

  <WSC#DGB014:0350:Z2>
      well i think i might do that

  <WSC#DGB014:0355:Z2>
      um actually have you any idea who has the machine available down
      there <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0360:HF>
      no i don't know

  <WSC#DGB014:0365:HF>
      i have i didn't i've just heard about the treatment not where it
      was <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0370:Z2>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0375:HF>
      in fact somebody said to me had you medical colleague said had
      you had your gall bladder problem now that's how it would have
      been treated

  <WSC#DGB014:0380:HF>
      <{1><[1>mind</[1> you er at the time some people were telling me
      how in china and i think some still use acupuncture <{2><[2>to
      treat</[2> er gall stones

  <WSC#DGB014:0385:Z2>
      <[1>yes</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB014:0390:Z2>
      <[2>oh</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB014:0395:Z2>
      is that right <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0400:HF>
      yes so that's another possibility acupuncture treatment <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0405:Z2>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0410:HF>
      and there are some good people around who do that but why not
      get your specialist to check through where they he would or she
      would know <&>9:00</&> where the er programme is that's doing it
      that way

  <WSC#DGB014:0415:Z2>
      well i'd have to go back to my family doctor cos he was the one
      who advised me <{1><[1>that</[1> the removal of the gall <{2><[2>bladder</[2>
      was the only answer <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0420:HF>
      <[1>right</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB014:0425:HF>
      <[2>yes</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB014:0430:HF>
      well i ask to for up to date on where this programme is

  <WSC#DGB014:0435:Z2>
      yes all right

  <WSC#DGB014:0440:HF>
      that's what i'd recommend

  <WSC#DGB014:0445:Z2>
      well thank you very much for your interest <{><[>felix</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0450:HF>
      <[>yeah</[></{> somebody else may be able to help who's had that
      treatment

  <WSC#DGB014:0455:HF>
      if so please ring us cos we we're linked toll free to the
      waikato on three nine three oh double nine so somebody surely
      can tell us <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0460:Z2>
      oh is that right

  <WSC#DGB014:0465:Z2>
      well do you want my telephone number

  <WSC#DGB014:0470:HF>
      well if you'd like to leave it <.>o</.> yes <&>9:36</&> <&>section
      not transcribed where caller gives his telephone number</&>
      <&>9:48</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0475:HF>
      right oh then robert

  <WSC#DGB014:0480:Z2>
      thank <{><[>you very</[> much <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0485:HF>
      <[>thank you</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0490:HF>
      right <{><[>bye</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0495:HF>
      good luck with that <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0500:Z2>
      <[>bye bye</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0505:Z2>
      thank you <&>9:54</&> <&>two minutes twelve seconds of next
      caller not transcribed as sounds ineligible</&> <&>12:06</&> <&>one
      minute forty eight seconds of monologue by HF not transcribed</&>
      <&>13:54</&> <&>six minutes twenty four seconds of next caller
      not transcribed as sounds ineligible</&> <&>20:18</&> <&>ten
      minutes of news bulletin and commercials and weather forecast
      not transcribed</&> <&>30:18</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0510:HF>
      and back to the boards we go

  <WSC#DGB014:0515:HF>
      we go on tolls to northland

  <WSC#DGB014:0520:HF>
      good evening beth

  <WSC#DGB014:0525:Z3>
      good evening

  <WSC#DGB014:0530:Z3>
      i hope you're not tired of gall stones but <{><[><O>laughs</O> i</[>
      heard you talking about them and this is something i tried
      myself about six months ago and it worked with me

  <WSC#DGB014:0535:Z3>
      it was given to us YEARS ago by a friend who had tried it
      himself and other people had tried it and it's quite simple

  <WSC#DGB014:0540:Z3>
      it's just a tablespoon of finely grated raw beetroot with one
      <.>ta</.> TEAspoon of olive oil <,> three times a day three
      quarters of an hour before meals for two weeks and it works

  <WSC#DGB014:0545:HF>
      <[><O>laughs</O> no</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0550:HF>
      <.>y</.> you had bad gall stones <{><[>did you</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0555:Z3>
      <[>yes about</[></{> six <&>31:00</&> months ago and i had this
      filed and i tried it

  <WSC#DGB014:0560:Z3>
      it was most uncomfortable about the thirteenth day and that was
      all

  <WSC#DGB014:0565:HF>
      where did you find this recipe

  <WSC#DGB014:0570:Z3>
      oh a friend YEARS and years ago gave it to us because he'd tried
      it himself and was so enthusiastic about it and he gave it to us
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0575:HF>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0580:Z3>
      i don't know where he got it

  <WSC#DGB014:0585:HF>
      and were you about to have operations <{><[>or anything</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0590:Z3>
      <[>i was</[></{> mm <?>yes</?>

  <WSC#DGB014:0595:HF>
      right

  <WSC#DGB014:0600:HF>
      oh well thanks for ringing on tolls <{><[>and telling us <.>ab</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0605:Z3>
      <[>just just while i'm speaking</[></{> to you not that i'm <O>laughs</O>
      be all and end all of everything but er i've always meant to
      share er because so many people have migraines and i was given a
      cure for migraines which i'd never known before and it's so
      simple

  <WSC#DGB014:0610:Z3>
      it's just two big glasses of CARROT juice

  <WSC#DGB014:0615:Z3>
      you have to buy yourself a juicer not a citrus juicer and it's
      the best investment you'll ever have if you have migraines and
      take it as soon as you can as soon as the migraine comes on and
      it goes

  <WSC#DGB014:0620:HF>
      CARROT juice <&>32:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0625:Z3>
      carrot juice <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0630:HF>
      right

  <WSC#DGB014:0635:Z3>
      it's just magnificent

  <WSC#DGB014:0640:HF>
      okay then <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0645:Z3>
      right <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0650:HF>
      thanks for those <{><[>handy hints</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0655:HF>
      right oh beth <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0660:Z3>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear> everybody</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0665:Z3>
      bye bye <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0670:HF>
      bye bye and we go over now <drawls>to anna on line</drawls> TWO

  <WSC#DGB014:0675:HF>
      good evening anna <,> there anna?

  <WSC#DGB014:0680:HF>
      NO we must try we'll try <,,> HANNAH

  <WSC#DGB014:0685:Z4>
      hannah yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0690:HF>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0695:Z4>
      i was ringing about these gall stones <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0700:HF>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0705:Z4>
      i think people need to be <.>aware</.> <&>32:36</&> <&>end of
      side one</&> <&>side two</&> <&>0:06</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0710:Z5>
      <drawls>um</drawls> i think it was stress

  <WSC#DGB014:0715:Z5>
      there was a few things happened in the family er too many
      changes and broken love affairs and things like that that can
      upset you and trigger it off

  <WSC#DGB014:0720:Z5>
      well she might have gone on through life if she had a shall we
      say a reasonably calm sort of life although i sometimes think
      perhaps nobody really has a reasonably calm sort of life

  <WSC#DGB014:0725:Z5>
      most people have some kind of uphill fight don't they <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0730:HF>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB014:0735:Z5>
      do you think so

  <WSC#DGB014:0740:Z5>
      i sometimes <{><[>wonder</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0745:HF>
      <[><.>oh</.></[></{> i think we all do

  <WSC#DGB014:0750:HF>
      life <{><[>isn't</[> easy <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0755:Z5>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0760:Z5>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0765:HF>
      but what was the the major thing that helped her come right

  <WSC#DGB014:0770:Z5>
      <drawls>er</drawls> let me see now

  <WSC#DGB014:0775:Z5>
      <drawls>um</drawls> she had some harrowing times out at
      carrington when it wasn't as good as it is now although it's not
      so hot NOW at times but it was much worse then <latch>
      <&>1:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0780:HF>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0785:Z5>
      er <drawls>and um</drawls> a good psychiatrist who took an
      interest in her was the turning point

  <WSC#DGB014:0790:Z5>
      er sometimes you're unlucky <.>i</.> in those days you would be
      just shut away and she said that's one of the most worst things
      that can happen to you to be shut in a room with no window and
      and just a bed nothing else and er locked in <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0795:HF>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0800:Z5>
      and she said that really makes you feel worse

  <WSC#DGB014:0805:HF>
      i i'm sure it would

  <WSC#DGB014:0810:HF>
      well thanks for your contributions tonight joan

  <WSC#DGB014:0815:Z5>
      YES there's some hope there isn't <{><[>there right oh felix bye
      bye</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0820:HF>
      <[>right oh right good</[></{> bye bye

  <WSC#DGB014:0825:HF>
      good evening sarah

  <WSC#DGB014:0830:Z6>
      oh yes hi felix

  <WSC#DGB014:0835:Z6>
      um there's been a lot of talk this week about um mental illness
      and also about um guns and weapons

  <WSC#DGB014:0840:HF>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0845:Z6>
      and i'd like to speak on both of them

  <WSC#DGB014:0850:Z6>
      um firstly there was a lady on during the week from psychiatric
      survivors

  <WSC#DGB014:0855:Z6>
      um i would have liked to talk to her at the time but <O>exhales</O>
      <&>2:00</&> i held on and i was bit busy so i didn't get to
      speak to her but i look upon <.>m</.> mental illness just like
      any other illness

  <WSC#DGB014:0860:Z6>
      i think people usually go to their g ps and if they are lucky
      enough to get um the right sort of help they can be cured or
      fixed up but like any illness if it's left it just festers and
      it gets worse and worse till then it becomes chronic

  <WSC#DGB014:0865:Z6>
      um i think society still doesn't look upon it just as any other
      illness which i i do because i think it's like any other illness
      it can usually be fixed up

  <WSC#DGB014:0870:Z6>
      um just one of the things that the <.>psych</.> lady from
      psychiatric survivors said which i think was the most important
      <,> and it would probably help all the terrible things that have
      been going on happening is if people when they reached out for
      help were given the help then instead of it <,> um kind of being
      turned away or neglected or ignored <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0875:HF>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0880:Z6>
      do you sort of understand what i mean

  <WSC#DGB014:0885:Z6>
      <{><[>often with</[> all these um <latch> <&>3:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0890:HF>
      <[>yeah i do</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0895:HF>
      when they're ready when they're need it <{><[><?>most</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0900:Z6>
      <[>yeah people will</[></{> reach out either through telephone
      counselling services or go to their g ps or whatever and they're
      not given the help that they are THERE seeking and <{><[>the</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0905:HF>
      <[>well they</[></{> these people <.>ca</.> haven't got enough
      skills to do that <{><[>perhaps</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0910:Z6>
      <[>yeah</[></{> and um but often it's not even skills so much
      it's just often they need support probably more than anything
      else and um i think that's where we need to start and then if we
      started there which is a fairly simple step to start at it would
      stop the illness progressing and then going on to all the
      problems we have <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGB014:0915:Z6>
      um going on to the business about the guns i <laughs>heard
      <unclear>word</unclear></laughs> during the week

  <WSC#DGB014:0920:Z6>
      um he was really giving the er public a hard time

  <WSC#DGB014:0925:Z6>
      um <O>exhales</O> he was <&>sighs</&>

  <WSC#DGB014:0930:Z6>
      <.>w</.> <.>w</.> what i'd like to say is the public are being
      they're being encouraged to stop being lethargic and submissive
      and um caring and to sort of reach out and take care <&>4:00</&>
      of each other and now they're sort of getting knocked for it but
      that doesn't mean to say that i'm would like to see people armed

  <WSC#DGB014:0935:Z6>
      what i really would like to see is um guns made illegal

  <WSC#DGB014:0940:Z6>
      i think that <{><[>they <.>sh</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0945:HF>
      <[>LEGAL</[></{> did you say <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0950:Z6>
      yeah made illegal <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0955:HF>
      ILlegal <{><[>yes</[>

  <WSC#DGB014:0960:Z6>
      <[>yeah</[></{> that <.>th</.> they should have an amnesty
      period um where people should have to hand all their guns in

  <WSC#DGB014:0965:HF>
      what about those who go go rifle shooting or hunting <latch>

  <WSC#DGB014:0970:Z6>
      oh well i was just going to get to that

  <WSC#DGB014:0975:Z6>
      then they have a a period after that amnesty period where guns
      are all handed in that they have a confiscation period if <.>an</.>
      if they come across anyone with guns and i think there should be
      a gun ban <.>a</.> a a central police location in each city or
      whatever and you must go and hire the gun out and you have to
      have a specific reason and a specific amount of time that you're
      going to have it and it may be a little bit inconvenient for
      some people but if they want to go hunting or whatever then
      that's the price they have to pay because otherwise i think
      we're just going to become like america <&>5:00</&> and if we
      leave it any longer we it's it's not going to take much more

  <WSC#DGB014:0980:HF>
      interesting idea and i'd like to hear people's response sarah
      <{><[>to that</[> one

  <WSC#DGB014:0985:HF>
      thanks for your call

  <WSC#DGB014:0990:Z6>
      <[>okay</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB014:0995:Z6>
      okay bye bye <&>5:08</&>
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