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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:14</&>
  

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      <unclear>word</unclear> banks let's let's have a let's have a
      look at his record

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      mm <latch>

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      remember the cell phone cell phone incident

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      well i remember it

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      i was the one that made the call to him

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><laughs>it wasn't you was it</laughs>

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      yeah there oh</[> you see

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      <[><O>laughs</O> yes indeed</[></{>

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      yeah

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      and then then the watch my lips episode

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      nine hundred cops

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      i will resign

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      well he's getting nine hundred cops

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      let's be fair to <{1><[1>john</[1> banks

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      he's got six hundred new bobbies bopping to the beat so far <{2><[2>and
      he'll</[2> have another three hundred by next election

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      <[1><.>but</.></[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      and how many cardboard cops did he bring in

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      no now come on let's be fair about this one <{1><[1>ace

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      we know you're a labour</[1> party man

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      <{2><[2>now let's try</[2> and be objective

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      <[1>he <.>did</.> he didn't tell us about</[1></{1>

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      <[2><.>he</.> <.>he</.></[2></{2>

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      he told us about nine hundred cops but he didn't didn't tell us
      about the cardboard cops he <.>b</.> he was bringing in and then
      the laidlaw slagging which i heard every word of it

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      <drawls>mm</drawls> <&>1:00</&>

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      and then the clearing of the streets <O>voc</O> the kids before
      the byelection that's crazy stuff

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      now that that that's <O>voc</O> <O>voc</O> <.>th</.> that that
      was shades of <drawls>er er</drawls> what was that <latch>

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      nineteen <{><[>eighty four</[>

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      <[>place</[></{>

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      yeah yeah <{1><[1>yeah shades of nineteen eighty four</[1> um
      you know that's that and then the threat to mike moore's press
      secretary <{2><[2>quite <.>qui</.></[2>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><.>let</.> let's</[2></{2> be fair here though ace

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      i mean <O>voc</O> whatever john banks may think or <.>s</.> er
      what he says on radio is pretty light hearted and is <O>voc</O>
      on many occasions er done for entertainment purposes

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      oh barry when he when he slagged laidlaw that sunday <{1><[1>i i
      yeah</[1> i i you know it gave me the impression that the man
      was unbalanced

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      <{2><[2>it really did

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      he he really</[2> sounded as <.>i</.> as if he was unbalanced
      <{3><[3>and</[3> er i i think he's not suited to the job <latch>

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      <[1>i listened to it i heard it myself</[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      <[3>mm</[3></{3>

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      mm

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      i don't think he's suited to the job

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      i mean when you when you line him up alongside the minister of
      justice like doug graham <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      i mean god <laughs><?><.>th</.> they're</?></laughs> they're two
      different people <&>2:00</&>

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      doug's the flavour of flavour of the er moment though isn't he

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      well yes er i i i think he should be leader of that party

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      you know <{1><[1>he's</[1> <drawls>a</drawls> very very astute
      politician <{2><[2>and</[2> and a very caring one too and you
      never hear him er slagging people

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      you know he he's he's <?>a</?> very astute politician and i
      think he should be leader of the national party <O>inhales</O>
      myself but john banks you know they're they're <.>they're</.>
      <.>b</.> <.>they're</.> they're worlds apart

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      i mean just imagine if um how would john banks handle a er <O>voc</O>
      <O>voc</O> say a <.>n</.> a nineteen eighty one tour situation

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <shouts>easy</shouts>

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      he'd go mad

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      he'd go BOOMPH

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      he'd go bonkers

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>he'd go out of his bloody</[></{> brain barry

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      <{1><[1><.>y</.></[1> he'd he'd put he'd put the the er the
      bloody <{2><[2>s a s the whole lot in</[2>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2> <laughs>i've never actually when you
      think about it you're quite true

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      i mean imagine john banks in charge of the police er back in
      ninety eighty one</laughs>

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      i mean honestly <{1><[1>the</[1> mind boggles

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      i was out in molesworth street <{2><[2>the first night outside</[2>
      parliament when the police fronted up against the protesters and
      a number of them <&>3:00</&> were clubbed and left bleeding in
      the gutter <latch>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      mm <latch>

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      john banks would be <laughs>out there i would imagine <{1><[1>cheering
      them on</laughs> <O>laughs</O>

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      <laughs>honestly</[1> when i think back it would who was the
      minister of police then er oh ben couch was</laughs> <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>

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      <laughs>oh dear the mind boggles

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      well i tell you what you've tickled my fancy this morning ace
      <{3><[3><O>laughs</O>

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      thanks for your call mate</laughs></[3>

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      <[1>yeah <,> he'd be out there with a baseball bat <O>laughs</O>

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      he would be <O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah ben couch that was right yeah yeah yeah</[2></{2>

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      <[3><O>laughs</O></[3></{3> <laughs>thank you</laughs> <latch>

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      <laughs>bye <O>inhales</O>

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      oh dear what a dangerous situation we'd have</laughs>

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      you imagine it those of you who had anything to do with the
      nineteen eighty one springbok tour

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      if old <laughs>basher banks was out there in charge of the cops
      there'd be no stopping them</laughs>

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      they'd have their bulldozers out

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      they'd be mowing these DREADFUL anti tour protesters down

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      four triple nine seven eleven <laughs>is</laughs> the number

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      you can give us a call

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      the lines are open

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      you're listening to radio pacific seven eleven on your a m dial

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      wyn i haven't forgotten about you but i'll come back to you
      after this <&>3:56</&> <&>two minutes forty nine seconds of
      advertisements and HS monologue not transcribed</&> <&>6:45</&>

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      wyn good morning

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      hello

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      gidday

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      yeah

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      yeah <,,>

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      <shouts>come on then</shouts>

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      oh sorry sorry

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      um er do i do i speak to to barry

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      yeah <{><[>i thought you</[> were starting to go to sleep wyn

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      <[><?>oh i think that</?></[></{>

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      <drawls>oh</drawls> <{><[>yeah i was about to</[> <&>7:00</&>

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      <[>you're on air

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      wellington</[></{> is waiting

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      er <.>th</.> the story was about that noise

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      i just wanted to mention as a quick reminder that er <?>all</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear> people can do damage to their hearing
      <{1><[1>by</[1> listening to that er loud music

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      <{2><[2>it is</[2> particularly dangerous er with earphones that
      go right into the in into the <.>o</.> er ear channel <latch>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mhm</[2></{2>

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      they do <{><[>yeah</[>

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      <[>and</[></{> they um er not only they they do they er er er
      sort of um <.>immu</.> immunise the hearing nerves <latch>

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      yes <latch>

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      er if they happen <?>to</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>over</?>
      over a longer period of time the hearing nerve gets actually
      damaged <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and they they become <.>s</.> er slowly more and more and more
      deaf

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      do you have some experience in this area wyn

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      yes <{><[>i'm</[> i'm an audio technician

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      <[><O>voc</O></[></{>

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      oh are you

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      audio <.>tech</.> well you'll see them all

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      yeah sort of yeah yeah <O>voc</O> for for thirty years now i am
      doing that job

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      <drawls>mm</drawls>

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      and er <O>voc</O> er it is it is er is a a simple thing to
      remind them look er my friend you don't do yourself a <laughs>favour</laughs>

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      would you ever use yourself wyn a um walkman <&>8:00</&>

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      oh yeah there there is a place for everything but you've <{1><[1>got
      to</[1> watch out that you keep the volume at bay <&>pronounced
      buy</&> because er it's easy to forget about it and crank it up
      and crank it up and <{2><[2>er</[2> the thing is <.>w</.> if you
      hear one noise one <.>cer</.> given noise at a certain level

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      <[1>yes</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      yes

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      and you want to overcome that particular noise <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      you do not need to er you it's not enough to double the volume
      <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      <shouts>no you have to make it four times</shouts>

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      it's like doing it's doing anything in moderation isn't it wyn

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      of course it is

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      that <.>i</.> that <{><[>is the</[> whole thing and just keep in
      mind that it IS <.>th</.> <.>th</.> the hearing is easily
      damaged

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      mm <,> yeah i totally agree

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      good on you wyn nice to have your call mate

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      <?>great</?>

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      and it'll make people think about that

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      marvellous

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      good on you wyn

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      see you

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      see you mate

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      look after yourself and look after all those people with hearing
      difficulties

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      four triple nine seven eleven is the number

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      morning eddie

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      good morning sir

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      how are you this morning

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      box of fluffy ducks

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      yeah dead ones or

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      <O>laughs</O> i prefer live ones

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      <O>laughs</O> what can we do for you this morning eddie

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      i listen to your <.>in</.> <?>this</?> interview with
      <&>9:00</&> mister graham lee minister of internal affairs <{><[>a
      very</[> an appropriate name for him isn't it

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      <[><drawls>yes</drawls></[></{>

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      yes

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      internal affairs

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      yes

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      er he suffers from acute rigor mortis

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      he should have been in the government of queen victoria

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      do you think so

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      oh good god

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      mm

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      i mean <.>h</.> he confuses gays with er with er people who
      interfere with kids and <?>high</?> heterosexuals who do the
      same thing <latch>

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      exactly

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      i couldn't agree more and <{><[>that</[>

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      <[>and <?>i</?></[></{> was absolutely so terrible

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      <{><[>how can we have <.>a</.></[>

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      <[>i <.>think</.> <,> sorry</[></{> eddie carry on

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      how can we have a guy like this in the government

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      mm the other curious thing eddie was that out of that interview
      when i said to graham lee do you believe that homosexuality is
      learned and can be er unlearned and he went along with that
      totally

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      now er <.>y</.> <drawls>all</drawls> medical evidence would say
      that if you are gay it's a um it's a quirk of birth

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      it's not something you <&>10:00</&> learn

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      you don't suddenly become gay

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      you you to me you are gay from birth and er of course he doesn't
      accept that at all and um he believes with counselling people if
      they are gay can learn the error of their ways

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      well i i i give you an example

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      this happened about twenty years ago <,> and there was a guy in
      opposition who said such and such wants a job

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      he's quite a good traveller

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      mm

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      so but he's been in prison so um being broad minded person i
      interviewed him and i said you been in prison and he said yes

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      well i said i insist i want to know why

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      mm

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      and he said i'm a homosexual so <?>i said</?> well that's okay
      what have you done

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      he said well i like little boys so i didn't take him on

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      mm

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      can you see my point

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      oh i definitely do that

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      so <latch>

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      but that but that's like any aberrant

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      i mean it's like um er if you <O>voc</O> interviewed a
      heterosexual for a job and er they were a paedophile you
      wouldn't take them on

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      i wouldn't take them on either

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      to put it mildly nobody what they do in their bedroom is
      nobody's business

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      mm except if they're not deviant like with children <latch>
      <&>11:00</&>

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      yes <latch>

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      or or boys then um if they're if if they are with consenting
      adults whatever their proclivity i think people should
      understand and and um open their minds to

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      this is just i want to say what er mister lee <?><.>sl</.></?>
      let let him do a few more things instead of worrying about <.>p</.>
      people's private affairs

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      couldn't agree more eddie <latch>

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      and have a lovely day

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      and you too mate

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      bye bye

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      and er have a good game of bridge

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      eddie's a bit of a bridge player he is

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      they tell him he's a <.>b</.> they tell me he's a bit of a gun
      around the bridge table

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      eddie didn't tell me that people that know eddie and of course i
      associate with people that play bridge i do and have the odd
      sherry they do sit around and talk and they've told me that
      eddie is a bit of a gun on the bridge table

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      four triple nine seven eleven is the number

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      up to otaki we go and we're going to have a chat to jane

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      oh good morning barry

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      good morning jane

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      i think what people are trying to say is that what we know to be
      both morally and <.>i</.> <.>i</.> wrong <&>12:00</&> and
      against the laws of nature

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      mm

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      um the homosexual act is wrong

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      mm

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      and the homosexuals however and especially the militant <&>pronounced
      emilitant</&> ones and their supporters and bit like you barry
      <{1><[1>are trying</[1> <,> to force the community into saying
      what we <.>n</.> that their behaviour is okay and it's not <,>
      and that's i think that's the crux of the matter

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      i am not against <.>gay</.> um homosexuals <{2><[2>per se</[2>
      <O>inhales</O> but i do believe what they are now trying to do
      and especially if you look in countries like england and america
      they are terribly militant and <{3><[3>they're going to make us
      all bow</[3> down and <{4><[4>say</[4> what they do is right and
      it isn't right

  <WSC#DGB023:1055:HS>
      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1060:HS>
      <[2><.>s</.> course not</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1065:HS>
      <[3>mm <,> damn nerve</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGB023:1070:HS>
      <[4>yeah</[4></{4>

  <WSC#DGB023:1075:HS>
      do you think society should have the right to discriminate
      against them jane

  <WSC#DGB023:1080:Z2>
      i don't i think <{><[>like anything else</[> if they're wise
      they don't have to go declaring themselves

  <WSC#DGB023:1085:HS>
      <[>well that's what the argument's about</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1090:HS>
      oh you should you reckon they should stay in their closet and
      keep the door firmly closed <&>13:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB023:1095:Z2>
      well like drug takers don't go round <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1100:HS>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1105:Z2>
      applying for jobs saying look i'm a drug taker <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1110:HS>
      yeah but drug taking is illegal

  <WSC#DGB023:1115:Z2>
      <?><.>sex</.></?> <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1120:HS>
      <[>homosexuality</[></{> isn't

  <WSC#DGB023:1125:Z2>
      this was though wasn't it <{1><[1>until</[1> your friend who you
      often <{2><[2>applaud for her actions and is <O>voc</O> i think
      quite despicable she's made it okay but look <.>dru</.></[2> as
      i say drug takers <{3><[3>or perhaps</[3> people of a religion
      if you want to apply for a job in a jewish community <{4><[4>you</[4>
      don't run in and say i'm a christian i'm a <{5><[5>christian</[5>
      not that they would mind anyway <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1130:HS>
      <[1><.>i</.></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1135:HS>
      <[2><laughs>fran</laughs> <O>laughs</O> <O>inhales</O> yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1140:HS>
      <[3><O>laughs</O></[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGB023:1145:HS>
      <[4>yeah</[4></{4>

  <WSC#DGB023:1150:HS>
      <[5><O>laughs</O></[5></{5>

  <WSC#DGB023:1155:HS>
      yes yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1160:Z2>
      but i mean this is what i think the <.>g</.> er the homosexuals
      are trying to do they're trying to force us into saying their
      behaviour is right it's okay <{><[>and</[> it isn't and i'll go
      to my grave saying what they do is against the laws of nature

  <WSC#DGB023:1165:HS>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1170:HS>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB023:1175:Z2>
      and that's all i've got against them <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1180:HS>
      all right <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1185:Z2>
      they can join the police force <{1><[1>i</[1> don't mind that
      but i think it's silly and this is what they are doing they're
      trying to make us say no you're just <.>as</.> what you do is
      <&>14:00</&> perfectly natural <{2><[2><?>if you actually</?></[2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1190:HS>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1195:HS>
      <[2>have you ever talked to a</[2></{2> <drawls>gay</drawls>
      jane

  <WSC#DGB023:1200:Z2>
      beg your pardon <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1205:HS>
      have you ever sat down and had a yarn with a person <{><[>who is
      gay</[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1210:Z2>
      <[><drawls>yes</drawls></[></{> yes and i've met some wonderful
      one

  <WSC#DGB023:1215:Z2>
      i've met ones who've sublimated their <{1><[1>um</[1> their acts
      <{2><[2>into</[2> doing great works of mercy

  <WSC#DGB023:1220:HS>
      <[1>oh</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1225:HS>
      <[2>oh</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1230:HS>
      mm <O>tut</O> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1235:Z2>
      <[>and i</[></{> think that you know that's the thing

  <WSC#DGB023:1240:Z2>
      it's the ACT

  <WSC#DGB023:1245:Z2>
      it's not the person

  <WSC#DGB023:1250:Z2>
      it's what they do <{><[>the sexual act</[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1255:HS>
      <[><shouts>it's how they</[></{> carry out that sexual act</shouts>

  <WSC#DGB023:1260:Z2>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB023:1265:HS>
      that <.>revol</.> <.>r</.> <.>r</.> revolts you

  <WSC#DGB023:1270:Z2>
      well it's against nature <{><[>let's face it</[> and nothing on
      this earth can tell us it's not

  <WSC#DGB023:1275:HS>
      <[><O>voc</O> <O>voc</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1280:HS>
      well it certainly doesn't procreate but er there you go

  <WSC#DGB023:1285:Z2>
      yes and look how militant they are overseas <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1290:HS>
      oh they are <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1295:Z2>
      they'll say so and so's gay <.>i</.> <{><[>in</[> the you know
      and so and so's gay and wanting them to come out and declare it

  <WSC#DGB023:1300:HS>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1305:HS>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB023:1310:Z2>
      no i think if i had a <.>prolicl</.> i can't think of the word
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1315:HS>
      <shouts>proclivity</shouts> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1320:Z2>
      er that's it <{><[>that's it for something that wasn't quite
      right</[> i wouldn't want to scream and tell everyone

  <WSC#DGB023:1325:Z2>
      i'd keep it to myself

  <WSC#DGB023:1330:HS>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1335:HS>
      all right

  <WSC#DGB023:1340:HS>
      thank you for your call jane

  <WSC#DGB023:1345:Z2>
      right

  <WSC#DGB023:1350:HS>
      thank you for calling from otaki

  <WSC#DGB023:1355:Z2>
      bye <&>15:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB023:1360:HS>
      i suppose the weather's DREADful up there is it <{><[>northerlies</[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1365:Z2>
      <[>oh</[></{> it's overcast <{><[>but it's</[> going to be a
      lovely hot day

  <WSC#DGB023:1370:HS>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1375:HS>
      good on you jane

  <WSC#DGB023:1380:HS>
      <{><[>you get</[> out and enjoy it

  <WSC#DGB023:1385:Z2>
      <[>bye</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1390:Z2>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB023:1395:HS>
      but watch melanoma

  <WSC#DGB023:1400:HS>
      four triple nine seven eleven is the number

  <WSC#DGB023:1405:HS>
      now that jane's gone there is a line free and i'll be back with
      your calls after this <&>15:14</&> <&>two minutes forty eight
      seconds of advertisements and community notices not transcribed</&>
      <&>18:02</&>

  <WSC#DGB023:1410:HS>
      four triple nine seven eleven is the number

  <WSC#DGB023:1415:HS>
      there was is one line free

  <WSC#DGB023:1420:HS>
      it's er five away from ten oclock

  <WSC#DGB023:1425:HS>
      that means that we have got time to take a few <drawls>calls</drawls>

  <WSC#DGB023:1430:HS>
      good morning mary

  <WSC#DGB023:1435:Z3>
      oh good morning barry

  <WSC#DGB023:1440:Z3>
      er i rang yesterday about the motorbike racing at lower hutt and
      i was a bit sorry after when i heard that lady ring er and she
      <.>sa</.> she said it was only a one off event <{1><[1>so</[1> i
      mean if if that's all it is we we're not worrying about it but
      we imagined an influx of noisy <O>inhales</O> spectators on <{2><[2>noisy</[2>
      vehicles <{3><[3><?>you know</?> into</[3> lower hutt <{4><[4>and</[4>

  <WSC#DGB023:1445:HS>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1450:HS>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1455:HS>
      <[3>well she <.>sh</.></[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGB023:1460:HS>
      <[4>she</[4></{4> obviously set your mind to rest then mary

  <WSC#DGB023:1465:Z3>
      yes well if it's only a one off thing i mean it doesn't matter
      does it

  <WSC#DGB023:1470:HS>
      well you let us know if it's not a one off thing um mary

  <WSC#DGB023:1475:HS>
      good to have your call

  <WSC#DGB023:1480:HS>
      four triple nine seven eleven

  <WSC#DGB023:1485:HS>
      jim good morning

  <WSC#DGB023:1490:Z4>
      hello

  <WSC#DGB023:1495:Z4>
      barry?

  <WSC#DGB023:1500:HS>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB023:1505:Z4>
      oh you know barry there's been a lot of talk about
      discrimination against gays <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1510:HS>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1515:Z4>
      but <&>19:00</&> nothing is ever mentioned about gays <.>discriminagat</.>
      er discriminating <&>pronounced discriminigating</&> against
      nongays

  <WSC#DGB023:1520:HS>
      mm do they

  <WSC#DGB023:1525:Z4>
      <.>y</.> well what's to stop <&>pronounced sop</&> someone who
      is a homosexual getting a good position in the government <{><[>perhaps
      a departmental</[> head and then surround himself with the gay
      type

  <WSC#DGB023:1530:HS>
      <[><O>gasps</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1535:HS>
      do you think they do that though <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1540:Z4>
      well i don't know

  <WSC#DGB023:1545:Z4>
      your mate the director of security he could have you know the s
      i s he could be a gay and then <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1550:HS>
      <drawls>MY MATE</drawls> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1555:Z4>
      and then hound people like you and me that are not gay <latch>

  <WSC#DGB023:1560:HS>
      who says the director of security is my <&>pronounce moy</&>
      mate

  <WSC#DGB023:1565:Z4>
      what

  <WSC#DGB023:1570:Z4>
      <{1><[1>well</[1> i don't know

  <WSC#DGB023:1575:Z4>
      you were talking about him one day

  <WSC#DGB023:1580:Z4>
      i thought he might have been <{2><[2>a mate</[2>

  <WSC#DGB023:1585:HS>
      <[1>who</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1590:HS>
      <[2><?>was i</?></[2></{2> oh

  <WSC#DGB023:1595:Z4>
      yeah yeah no no i would agree with the i would agree with the
      national party guy that said legalising all this homosexual
      stuff is just like opening pandora's box

  <WSC#DGB023:1600:Z4>
      <{><[>you</[> don't know what's going to happen next

  <WSC#DGB023:1605:HS>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB023:1610:HS>
      you'll have a lot of gay's jumping out in pretty little tutus
      <{><[>probably</[>

  <WSC#DGB023:1615:Z4>
      <[>yeah</[></{> that's right <{1><[1>but</[1> no give it a bit
      of thought <{2><[2>and you can't say that none of them are not</[2>
      <,> <.>y</.> you can't say that none of them are not that way
      inclined

  <WSC#DGB023:1620:HS>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB023:1625:HS>
      <[2>i have i've given it a lot of thought in my life</[2></{2>
      <&>20:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB023:1630:HS>
      well no <.>y</.> of COURSE you can't

  <WSC#DGB023:1635:HS>
      it's just as the same as you can't say er <.>n</.> no homosexual
      is that way inclined whatever that way is

  <WSC#DGB023:1640:HS>
      good to have your call though jim

  <WSC#DGB023:1645:HS>
      four triple nine seven eleven <&>20:12</&>
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