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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>13:00</&>
  

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      right to er the prime minister

  <WSC#DGB025:0010:HB>
      charles good morning to you

  <WSC#DGB025:0015:Z1>
      oh good morning tim and good morning mister bolger <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0020:JB>
      good morning charles

  <WSC#DGB025:0025:Z1>
      er there's no doubt about it is there mister bolger that at the
      present time the um government of the day with two parties
      scoring hits against the tough <.>em</.> economic stance that
      had to be taken

  <WSC#DGB025:0030:Z1>
      um it reminds me to some extent of the nineteen fifty one
      national government's tough stand against the jock barnes
      economic stranglehold the water front

  <WSC#DGB025:0035:JB>
      i remember that <{><[>too</[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0040:Z1>
      <[>yet</[></{> er they finally won public support didn't they
      <{><[>and</[> swept back into power with increased majority
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0045:JB>
      <[>yep</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB025:0050:JB>
      indeed the fifty one water front strike <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0055:Z1>
      yes <{><[>well</[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0060:JB>
      <[>cost</[></{> the country a hell of a lot of money <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0065:Z1>
      yes well there's some parallel too although in a different
      country of course of um of your situation i'm talking about er
      with harry truman u s president after roosevelt

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      you might remember <{><[>the personal polls</[> predicted a
      massive defeat for him <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0075:JB>
      <[>i remember harry</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB025:0080:JB>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0085:Z1>
      and new york times went ahead and printed the front page early
      truman out <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0090:Z1>
      after that er and after winning the election truman framed the
      front page and put it in his office <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0095:JB>
      <[>that's right</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB025:0100:JB>
      that's absolutely right yes

  <WSC#DGB025:0105:JB>
      they ran the front page so convinced that harry truman couldn't
      win and er they were proven wrong <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0110:Z1>
      mister bolger are you confident that the significant upturn in
      business optimism NOW will be translated into jobs enough to
      satisfy november voters

  <WSC#DGB025:0115:JB>
      it'll certainly be translated into jobs charles and that's
      already evident er

  <WSC#DGB025:0120:JB>
      we're now seeing jobs coming through the system er

  <WSC#DGB025:0125:JB>
      well i would hope that new zealanders will say look we're now
      seeing benefits er

  <WSC#DGB025:0130:JB>
      it's not just politicians and economists and commentators saying
      it's coming right we can see the benefits

  <WSC#DGB025:0135:JB>
      unemployment went down a little bit er in the statistics
      released yesterday two thousand fewer registered unemployed er

  <WSC#DGB025:0140:JB>
      there'll be far more jobs coming through as long as we just keep
      a sensible balance common sense policy which we've put in place

  <WSC#DGB025:0145:JB>
      business has the confidence now to inVEST and that came
      <&>15:00</&> out in another survey yesterday and that'll what
      that's what produced the jobs

  <WSC#DGB025:0150:JB>
      jobs are not created other than by people determining to expand
      their business and employ more people

  <WSC#DGB025:0155:JB>
      it's as simple as that not complex but now that they've got the
      confidence to do that because they BELIEVE new zealand is a good
      place to do business which it IS then we'll see the jobs coming
      through

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      peter good morning

  <WSC#DGB025:0165:Z2>
      yes good morning

  <WSC#DGB025:0170:Z2>
      er good morning prime minister

  <WSC#DGB025:0175:JB>
      peter good morning

  <WSC#DGB025:0180:Z2>
      <drawls>um</drawls> i take it that you're a defender of
      democracy

  <WSC#DGB025:0185:JB>
      very much so <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0190:Z2>
      yes well then as a defender of democracy may i ask um as one of
      the ninety two percent of the people in this country who do not
      want you as prime minister how quickly can we expect you to
      resign and if possible take your despised and detested
      government with you

  <WSC#DGB025:0195:JB>
      don't intend at all peter

  <WSC#DGB025:0200:JB>
      <{><[>sorry to <.>up</.> sorry to upset your morning</[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0205:JB>
      i was elected for three years and as part of the democratic
      structures <&>16:00</&> of new zealand i will come up for
      reelection in er the end of next year er and that's how we do it
      actually

  <WSC#DGB025:0210:JB>
      if not we'd actually have an election every few months when the
      polls change

  <WSC#DGB025:0215:JB>
      now we don't run the country by POLLS peter you see

  <WSC#DGB025:0220:JB>
      you MUST understand the difference

  <WSC#DGB025:0225:JB>
      we run the country by democratically elected governments and
      we'll continue to do that as long as i draw breath

  <WSC#DGB025:0230:Z2>
      <[>no i didn't think you would</[></{>

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      phil good morning

  <WSC#DGB025:0240:Z3>
      good morning

  <WSC#DGB025:0245:Z3>
      er good morning mister bolger

  <WSC#DGB025:0250:JB>
      phil

  <WSC#DGB025:0255:Z3>
      um i agree with you that it's good that we won a <.>b</.> a
      medal um for board sailing but if sport was an indication of the
      state of the nation then the former soviet union must have been
      utopia <{><[>um now <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0260:JB>
      <[>no they did it</[></{> all with drugs <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGB025:0265:Z3>
      what pardon <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0270:JB>
      i said they did it all with drugs

  <WSC#DGB025:0275:Z3>
      oh well <.>th</.> er that hasn't <.>g</.> got much to do with it
      has it

  <WSC#DGB025:0280:Z3>
      <{><[>um if you're going to claim that</[>

  <WSC#DGB025:0285:JB>
      <[><O>laughs</O> i think it had a lot to</[></{> do with their
      medals <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0290:Z3>
      if you're going to claim that sporting prowess is an indication
      of um of how well we're doing then you'd have to say that um
      well you know you don't you don't see um <,,> um president bush
      getting up and saying <&>17:00</&> um well don't worry about the
      state of the nation because we just won the basketball you know

  <WSC#DGB025:0295:JB>
      but i didn't say that <latch>

  <WSC#DGB025:0300:Z3>
      um no but <{><[>anyway</[> anyway i have a question here

  <WSC#DGB025:0305:Z3>
      um it is clear that the vast majority of electors does not want
      the power board sold

  <WSC#DGB025:0310:Z3>
      um as our electorate representative what right do you have to
      try to go against the will of the public and force the sale of
      these viable profitable public assets

  <WSC#DGB025:0315:JB>
      <[><laughs>no</laughs></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB025:0320:JB>
      <O>tut</O> well we're not forcing them to sell we're not <.>s</.>
      forcing viable <,> profitable public assets to be sold to quote
      you phil at all

  <WSC#DGB025:0325:JB>
      we're saying the um power boards as they're <.>now</.> they're
      not power authorities as they now are have to make a decision on
      the future ownership

  <WSC#DGB025:0330:JB>
      we inherited a half completed situation er from the outgoing
      labour government

  <WSC#DGB025:0335:JB>
      they had appointed boards they had appointed trustees there was
      no certainty as to the ownership of the asset

  <WSC#DGB025:0340:JB>
      that was disputed and you might say it's not dispute i have to
      <&>18:00</&> tell you in legal terms it was disputed and er what
      we've said look you have to now determine the structure for the
      future

  <WSC#DGB025:0345:JB>
      you can either privatise if that is your wish PART privatise
      have it held in a trust <,>

  <WSC#DGB025:0350:JB>
      it's really a determination that will be made by the local
      representatives determining what they believe is BEST for their
      region

  <WSC#DGB025:0355:JB>
      now that's what we've said

  <WSC#DGB025:0360:JB>
      you can't be fairer than that

  <WSC#DGB025:0365:JB>
      the crown is not saying you must do this this this and this

  <WSC#DGB025:0370:JB>
      we're saying these are the options

  <WSC#DGB025:0375:JB>
      now you go away as a as a community as a region and determine
      which of those options you believe is in your best interests
      <&>18:30</&>
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