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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>12:04</&>
  

  <WSC#DGB037:0005:HM>
      irene

  <WSC#DGB037:0010:Z1>
      good morning

  <WSC#DGB037:0015:Z1>
      perhaps i could <O>coughs</O> excuse me tell you something that
      might help you get to sleep at night

  <WSC#DGB037:0020:HM>
      excellent

  <WSC#DGB037:0025:Z1>
      many many years ago when i was had a business <.>of</.> of my
      own and i used to go to bed at night and my mind was <.>s</.>
      <.>s</.> so <&>pronounced as stowe</&> so full of everything
      that had happened during the day that i couldn't get to sleep
      because my brain was too active

  <WSC#DGB037:0030:HM>
      is that what it is

  <WSC#DGB037:0035:Z1>
      and so er i spoke to the doctor it was a woman doctor and many
      many years ago when there weren't very many woman doctors and
      she was a very sensible lady and she said if you want to get to
      sleep at night she said when you go to bed and your brain starts
      overreacting like that she said shut your brain off yourself

  <WSC#DGB037:0040:Z1>
      shut your mind off and think of something really nice that
      happened to you in your life that you thoroughly enjoyed

  <WSC#DGB037:0045:Z1>
      she said start at the <&>13:00</&> beginning and relive it in
      your brain

  <WSC#DGB037:0050:Z1>
      <{><[><?>don't</?></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0055:HM>
      <[>visualisation</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0060:Z1>
      pardon?

  <WSC#DGB037:0065:HM>
      <{><[>visualisation</[> yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0070:Z1>
      <[>yes</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0075:Z1>
      she said go over it to yourself in your own brain and she said
      i'll guarantee that before you get halfway through you'll be
      asleep and believe me it works <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0080:HM>
      do you know what i occasionally do

  <WSC#DGB037:0085:HM>
      i offer myself a theory in my mind and i debate the theory with
      myself and that normally sends me to sleep which probably goes
      to prove <laughs>i'm not that interesting</laughs> <{><[><O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGB037:0090:HM>
      but no it's it's <?><.>n</.></?></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0095:Z1>
      <[>mm so <.>it</.> so it</[></{> saves you er er losing a lot of
      sleep

  <WSC#DGB037:0100:HM>
      yes it does

  <WSC#DGB037:0105:HM>
      the more you think about losing sleep the more anxious you get
      <{><[>and the less you sleep of course</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0110:Z1>
      <[>that's very very true</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0115:Z1>
      you do you worry about it <{><[>don't you</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0120:HM>
      <[><.>wonde</.> wonderful</[></{> advice irene

  <WSC#DGB037:0125:Z1>
      <laughs>okay <{><[>you're very welcome</laughs></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0130:HM>
      <[>thanks bye bye</[></{> it's interesting though

  <WSC#DGB037:0135:HM>
      i mentioned yesterday the movie <title>little man tate</title>
      with jodie foster and little er fred tate was a genius at the
      age of eight years old and he had a ulcer because he worried
      about stuff too much and the greenhouse and er gases and the er
      the hole in the ozone and why innocent people die at the hands
      of murderers

  <WSC#DGB037:0140:HM>
      maybe that's what i'm <&>14:00</&> like

  <WSC#DGB037:0145:HM>
      not a genius i'm talking about

  <WSC#DGB037:0150:HM>
      maybe i just worry too much

  <WSC#DGB037:0155:HM>
      there's a wonderful song that paul simon once wrote actually in
      an album that never did anything

  <WSC#DGB037:0160:HM>
      it came out er <,> just after graceland the album he did just
      after graceland and it was sort of south american music and it
      was called <title>maybe i think too much</title>

  <WSC#DGB037:0165:HM>
      i must play that song actually

  <WSC#DGB037:0170:HM>
      it's a very good song <&>14:18</&> <&>two minutes twenty one
      seconds of news items read by HM and HM's commentary on these
      news items not transcribed</&> <&>16:39</&>

  <WSC#DGB037:0175:HM>
      who's this

  <WSC#DGB037:0180:HM>
      denise?

  <WSC#DGB037:0185:Z2>
      good morning mike <{><[>and how</[> are you

  <WSC#DGB037:0190:HM>
      <[><?><O>voc</O></?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0195:HM>
      i'm top of the pops actually

  <WSC#DGB037:0200:Z2>
      <O>voc</O> you sound as though you're going on motor motor
      mechanics hundred and nine

  <WSC#DGB037:0205:HM>
      what's that mean

  <WSC#DGB037:0210:Z2>
      oh you're just going <.>y</.> your brain is still going so fast
      you don't know where to go

  <WSC#DGB037:0215:HM>
      well no i <.>d</.> i'm i'm sort of heading in the right
      direction

  <WSC#DGB037:0220:HM>
      i've got all this stuff to say and i just want to get it out
      before one <&>17:00</&> oclock

  <WSC#DGB037:0225:HM>
      i get myself in dreadful dreadful problems you see <.>m</.> by
      not being able to get enough done by one oclock

  <WSC#DGB037:0230:Z2>
      mhm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0235:HM>
      you know this article on john banks i read

  <WSC#DGB037:0240:HM>
      about three days and i said i'd read it out every day and talk
      about it

  <WSC#DGB037:0245:Z2>
      <{><[><?>you haven't</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0250:HM>
      <[>i still haven't</[></{> got around to doing it yet

  <WSC#DGB037:0255:Z2>
      right anyway

  <WSC#DGB037:0260:HM>
      cos i'm talking to you denise

  <WSC#DGB037:0265:Z2>
      oh it's disGUSTing isn't it

  <WSC#DGB037:0270:HM>
      i'll blame you i think

  <WSC#DGB037:0275:Z2>
      well everybody blames me so it's nice to be in the blame
      sometimes <{><[>isn't <laughs>it</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0280:Z2>
      i mean</laughs> i've got to have a shoulder around here
      otherwise i'd be falling over christchurch by now

  <WSC#DGB037:0285:HM>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0290:HM>
      would you

  <WSC#DGB037:0295:HM>
      <{><[>now</[> what did you ring for

  <WSC#DGB037:0300:Z2>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0305:Z2>
      i rung to tell you did you see on the news their new little
      quirk <O>tut</O>

  <WSC#DGB037:0310:Z2>
      you know how we've got a lot of timber in this confounded
      country

  <WSC#DGB037:0315:HM>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB037:0320:Z2>
      well now they've got a new idea <O>tut</O> <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGB037:0325:Z2>
      some bright <?>ignoramus</?> <&>pronounced imboramus</&> decided
      that the timber business needed a boost because they weren't
      getting enough money out of the timber when they were selling it
      and they made a new order to japan <O>tut</O> but then
      <&>18:00</&> they overpriced the whole timber business so now
      they import <.>t</.> <.>t</.> um timber from chile

  <WSC#DGB037:0330:HM>
      that's right

  <WSC#DGB037:0335:Z2>
      but that means now er <.>s</.> two hundred and fifty to three
      hundred people will now lose their jobs

  <WSC#DGB037:0340:HM>
      well you got a you got a plus and a minus there

  <WSC#DGB037:0345:HM>
      the er what happened was that they're getting very good export
      prices for their logs er internationally they're getting top
      prices and so you balance that up against <drawls>er</drawls>
      the import export business

  <WSC#DGB037:0350:Z2>
      yeah but <{><[>you</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0355:HM>
      <[>so</[></{> what <.>do</.> what do you do

  <WSC#DGB037:0360:HM>
      if i'm growing logs and somebody in japan's gonna pay me top
      dollar do i not sell to save a few jobs here

  <WSC#DGB037:0365:Z2>
      yeah but the thing is you're going on about unemployment in this
      country <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0370:HM>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB037:0375:Z2>
      and it means it's just making more unemployment <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0380:HM>
      it is <&>pronounced tis</&> and it isn't

  <WSC#DGB037:0385:HM>
      i mean it depends what you want to do

  <WSC#DGB037:0390:HM>
      i mean we could say for example to the people who buy those logs
      and want to pay top price no we won't sell them to you because
      if we don't sell them we won't have to import from chile and
      therefore

  <WSC#DGB037:0395:HM>
      but the advantage is or the potential advantage is i can sell
      some logs to japan for top dollar get some good money back into
      the country and employ people that way and <&>19:00</&> at the
      same time what i can do is import logs from chile add value to
      them and then export them again

  <WSC#DGB037:0400:Z2>
      but i just think the whole paper mill is stupid because we had a
      a paper mill place right <{><[>that</[> made you know <.>mill</.>
      mill and <?>papered</?> and that

  <WSC#DGB037:0405:Z2>
      well now it is cheaper to send our logs to japan get them to do
      the processing and they send it back to us

  <WSC#DGB037:0410:HM>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0415:HM>
      not strictly true not strictly true

  <WSC#DGB037:0420:HM>
      at the moment it is but potentially we could er make it worth
      our while to do it

  <WSC#DGB037:0425:HM>
      the only reason that er countries like japan succeed in areas
      like this is because they do it in such bulk

  <WSC#DGB037:0430:Z2>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0435:HM>
      and therefore er we're a little country but if we started
      turning over logs in big numbers we could do that

  <WSC#DGB037:0440:HM>
      we could add value to them

  <WSC#DGB037:0445:HM>
      we could chop them up

  <WSC#DGB037:0450:HM>
      we could er shape them

  <WSC#DGB037:0455:HM>
      we could turn them into furniture

  <WSC#DGB037:0460:HM>
      we could do all sorts of interesting things with them if we
      really wanted

  <WSC#DGB037:0465:Z2>
      mm but the thing is it's just getting <O>voc</O> the whole
      country is money <.>or</.> <.>and</.> i know you got to have
      money right

  <WSC#DGB037:0470:HM>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB037:0475:Z2>
      but it means then that everybody like furniture <&>20:00</&> now
      for wood is so expensive that you just you know you just can't
      buy it

  <WSC#DGB037:0480:Z2>
      if you did buy you gonna pay an arm and a leg <{1><[1>for it</[1>
      and it's not quality like you know in the old days when your ma
      grandpa <&>pronounced as grandcar</&> and grandparents made
      furniture to last and it was really <{2><[2>decorative</[2>

  <WSC#DGB037:0485:HM>
      <[1><drawls>mm</drawls></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB037:0490:HM>
      <[2>you</[2></{2> can still you can still buy that

  <WSC#DGB037:0495:Z2>
      yeah if you were to pay an arm and a leg for it <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0500:HM>
      depends what you call an arm and a leg i suppose

  <WSC#DGB037:0505:Z2>
      well for example from um to buy a cabinet that is mahogany
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0510:HM>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB037:0515:Z2>
      and dressed you know and that

  <WSC#DGB037:0520:Z2>
      would cost you about two and a half to three thousand dollars

  <WSC#DGB037:0525:HM>
      nah depends where you shop

  <WSC#DGB037:0530:Z2>
      depends all right

  <WSC#DGB037:0535:Z2>
      but anyway no i just thought you know <{><[>i just <.>thought</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0540:HM>
      <[>no it's an</[></{> interesting point and what you're talking
      about to a degree is isolationism <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0545:Z2>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0550:HM>
      and that is <drawls>to</drawls> the ability of a country to
      stand on its own two feet and look after itself before it starts
      er involving itself in the international economy or community

  <WSC#DGB037:0555:Z2>
      well another thing too

  <WSC#DGB037:0560:Z2>
      we're this country has one big advantage to any other country at
      the <&>21:00</&> moment which people forget right

  <WSC#DGB037:0565:Z2>
      we're nuclear free

  <WSC#DGB037:0570:Z2>
      like when chernobyl went up right they bothered a whole lot of
      countries and caused you know contamination of <{1><[1>food</[1>

  <WSC#DGB037:0575:Z2>
      we are a nation who has more bartering than any because <{2><[2>we
      have <,> <.>y</.> we</[2>

  <WSC#DGB037:0580:HM>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB037:0585:HM>
      <[2><softly><with creaky voice>absolutely correct</with creaky voice></softly>

  <WSC#DGB037:0590:HM>
      you</[2></{2> <.>sti</.> you stick a picture of a er clean <O>voc</O>
      snowcapped mountain with blue skies and sunshine and fresh water
      on the er the the covers of some cheese or some wine or
      something like say it's from nuclear free new zealand

  <WSC#DGB037:0595:HM>
      there's big money in that

  <WSC#DGB037:0600:HM>
      you're dead right

  <WSC#DGB037:0605:Z2>
      you know because it's this

  <WSC#DGB037:0610:Z2>
      i've even seen tourists <.>they've</.> you know just stand there
      and they just say golly you know where did you get this

  <WSC#DGB037:0615:Z2>
      we haven't got this you know <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0620:HM>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0625:Z2>
      and it's amazing when you see them going around queenstown mount
      cook um fox glacier all around there

  <WSC#DGB037:0630:Z2>
      it's just so this country and this is what really saddens me is
      so beautiful

  <WSC#DGB037:0635:Z2>
      i've <&>22:00</&> walked it

  <WSC#DGB037:0640:Z2>
      i've seen it you know

  <WSC#DGB037:0645:Z2>
      i've mixed with the people and the people are so genuine but we
      <.>ha</.> <?>we've</?> seem to have got our eye on the wrong
      emphasis and that's money

  <WSC#DGB037:0650:Z2>
      and when you've got a beautiful country money is part of it but
      isn't it better to keep our country like it is

  <WSC#DGB037:0655:HM>
      priorities

  <WSC#DGB037:0660:HM>
      very good call denise

  <WSC#DGB037:0665:HM>
      have a good day

  <WSC#DGB037:0670:Z2>
      bye

  <WSC#DGB037:0675:HM>
      come back after nine thirty <&>22:22</&> <&>three minutes twenty
      six seconds of news and weather broadcasts and commercials not
      transcribed</&> <&>25:48</&>

  <WSC#DGB037:0680:HM>
      <O>inhales</O> very dramatic sky coming to work this morning

  <WSC#DGB037:0685:HM>
      you can see why the west coast got DRENCHed yesterday

  <WSC#DGB037:0690:HM>
      VERY spectacular stuff

  <WSC#DGB037:0695:HM>
      if you're an oil painter you would have wanted to <&>26:00</&>
      er capture it er er capturED <.>d</.> it <.>mi</.> <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGB037:0700:HM>
      <laughs>mona</laughs>

  <WSC#DGB037:0705:Z3>
      good morning mike

  <WSC#DGB037:0710:Z3>
      um i want to want you to find out something about lotto for me

  <WSC#DGB037:0715:HM>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB037:0720:Z3>
      now lotto's losing money hand over fist <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0725:HM>
      no it's not

  <WSC#DGB037:0730:Z3>
      well they reckon they were <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0735:HM>
      no they're not

  <WSC#DGB037:0740:HM>
      <{><[>they're</[> making a fortune

  <WSC#DGB037:0745:HM>
      <drawls>the</drawls> er the only thing that's happened is that
      their profits have dropped slightly

  <WSC#DGB037:0750:HM>
      they're still making many millions of dollars every year

  <WSC#DGB037:0755:Z3>
      <[><?><.>bu</.></?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0760:Z3>
      well i would like you to find out for me why every <.>ma</.> er
      every <.>mun</.> number on lotto is not in the barrel

  <WSC#DGB037:0765:Z3>
      now

  <WSC#DGB037:0770:HM>
      what?

  <WSC#DGB037:0775:Z3>
      <O>voc</O> no this is honest

  <WSC#DGB037:0780:Z3>
      a <{><[><.>coup</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0785:HM>
      <[>every</[></{> number in lotto <{><[>is</[> not in the barrel

  <WSC#DGB037:0790:Z3>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB037:0795:Z3>
      no it's not

  <WSC#DGB037:0800:HM>
      what's that <.>mea</.> i'm not sure what you mean

  <WSC#DGB037:0805:Z3>
      well <{><[>there's <?><.>f</.></?></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0810:HM>
      <[>oh sorry</[></{> you're saying there aren't forty balls in
      the barrel

  <WSC#DGB037:0815:Z3>
      no there weren't

  <WSC#DGB037:0820:HM>
      how many are there

  <WSC#DGB037:0825:Z3>
      well there are eight or nine in two two in one week two er five
      dollar <.>lot</.> lucky dips there are eight or nine numbers
      that weren't even in the barrel

  <WSC#DGB037:0830:HM>
      how do know that though

  <WSC#DGB037:0835:Z3>
      well a man with a <.>b</.> big er <.>be</.> er better brain
      <&>27:00</&> than i have and i mean i think he's up with the top
      brass

  <WSC#DGB037:0840:Z3>
      i won't tell you who he is

  <WSC#DGB037:0845:Z3>
      he's worked this out for himself and this <?>hasn't</?> happened
      once

  <WSC#DGB037:0850:Z3>
      so would you be able to find out <{><[><?><.>wha</.></?></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0855:HM>
      <[>well</[></{> there's no point in me doing anything about that

  <WSC#DGB037:0860:HM>
      i'll ring david bale at the lotteries commission

  <WSC#DGB037:0865:HM>
      i'll say david <.>mo</.> mona here in christchurch don't thinks
      you don't put forty balls in the barrel and he'll laugh at me

  <WSC#DGB037:0870:Z3>
      well i'll <{><[>tell you what</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0875:HM>
      <[><.>you</.> you're</[></{> charging him with <incredulously>corruption</incredulously>

  <WSC#DGB037:0880:Z3>
      well it's true

  <WSC#DGB037:0885:HM>
      well no it's not

  <WSC#DGB037:0890:HM>
      you're alleging it's true <,>

  <WSC#DGB037:0895:HM>
      <{><[>you <.>g</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0900:Z3>
      <[>all right</[></{> then

  <WSC#DGB037:0905:HM>
      <O>voc</O> you you got to you got to come up with a lot more
      than that don't you

  <WSC#DGB037:0910:HM>
      you can't <.>ge</.> you just can't simply charge the lotteries
      commission with rigging a game of lotto every week and er
      potentially gypping people out of millions of dollars

  <WSC#DGB037:0915:Z3>
      well that's exactly what's happening <&>pronounced happing</&>

  <WSC#DGB037:0920:HM>
      no it's you're alleging that's what's happening <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0925:Z3>
      all right then <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0930:HM>
      it's very important we conduct ourselves properly or else we're
      gonna get our butts sued aren't we

  <WSC#DGB037:0935:Z3>
      <laughs>well no good they can't sue me

  <WSC#DGB037:0940:Z3>
      i haven't got anything</laughs>

  <WSC#DGB037:0945:Z3>
      <{1><[1>no that's not that</[1> but <.>it</.> it has been
      pointed out to <{2><[2>me</[2>

  <WSC#DGB037:0950:HM>
      <[1>well that's good</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB037:0955:HM>
      <[2>you</[2></{2> well pointing things out and things <O>voc</O>
      is simply not good enough

  <WSC#DGB037:0960:HM>
      you got to come up with some pretty factual information when
      you're <&>28:00</&> talking about something this serious

  <WSC#DGB037:0965:HM>
      you can understand what i'm saying can't <{><[>you</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:0970:Z3>
      <[>yes</[></{> i i can

  <WSC#DGB037:0975:HM>
      and so if if you can present me with documentation that proves
      that er <O>voc</O> it's being <laughs>rigged and the forty balls</laughs>
      aren't going in the barrel each week then i'll be i'll be <.>b</.>
      right behind and we'll have the lawyers and we'll truck up to
      wellington we'll <{1><[1>we'll make national headlines</[1> but
      but <laughs>until we can</laughs> start getting something
      concrete apart from the bit <.>of</.> a vague allegation then we
      can't go any further <{2><[2>can we</[2>

  <WSC#DGB037:0980:Z3>
      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB037:0985:Z3>
      <[2>well</[2></{2> i hope somebody else gets on this one <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:0990:HM>
      well if if somebody knows that there are BALLS <laughs>missing
      in lotto</laughs> then er then then then listen we'll have
      hilary timmins on

  <WSC#DGB037:0995:HM>
      we'll get her on and we'll grill her

  <WSC#DGB037:1000:Z3>
      okay <latch>

  <WSC#DGB037:1005:HM>
      she still present lotto does she

  <WSC#DGB037:1010:Z3>
      i think so

  <WSC#DGB037:1015:HM>
      good on you

  <WSC#DGB037:1020:HM>
      <{><[>okay mona bye bye</[>

  <WSC#DGB037:1025:HM>
      extraordinary

  <WSC#DGB037:1030:Z3>
      <[>thank you <?>bye</?></[></{> <&>28:40</&>
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