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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>3:33</&>
  

  <WSC#DGB039:0005:HB>
      good morning kelly

  <WSC#DGB039:0010:Z1>
      good morning

  <WSC#DGB039:0015:Z1>
      um the attacks on females in taxis these days

  <WSC#DGB039:0020:HB>
      yeah the taxi the taxi threat

  <WSC#DGB039:0025:Z1>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB039:0030:Z1>
      um now what the general public don't seem to be aware of is that
      you CAN ask for a female driver

  <WSC#DGB039:0035:HB>
      OH YEAH

  <WSC#DGB039:0040:Z1>
      um

  <WSC#DGB039:0045:HB>
      what a good idea if you're ringing up for a from from <{><[>home</[>
      or somewhere for a cab you can say oh and can i have a woman
      driver please

  <WSC#DGB039:0050:Z1>
      <[>if you're</[></{> <&>4:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0055:Z1>
      yes and you can also take any taxi you like off the rank so if
      you don't like the look of a driver

  <WSC#DGB039:0060:HB>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0065:Z1>
      you can go along the rank till you find a female if that's what
      you want

  <WSC#DGB039:0070:Z1>
      um you can take any taxi you like

  <WSC#DGB039:0075:HB>
      mhm so well that's an that's an important point to remember
      isn't it

  <WSC#DGB039:0080:HB>
      <.>i'm</.> er the taxi company would probably be a bit wary if i
      rang up and particularly <.>w</.> as i'm <.>lo</.> losing my
      voice today <.>s</.> <with silly voice>i'd like a woman driver
      please</with silly voice> <{><[>but i mean</[> <O>laughs</O>
      they <.>pr</.> but i <.>c</.> i see your point there

  <WSC#DGB039:0085:HB>
      <.>th</.> <.>the</.> <.>i</.> if if er if you're alone and
      you're female and it's late at night and you're not too happy
      with er with some of the men you see driving cabs around town
      the chances are you can get a much nicer female driver just by
      asking for one or choosing them at the stand

  <WSC#DGB039:0090:Z1>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0095:Z1>
      that's correct bill

  <WSC#DGB039:0100:Z1>
      um i mean <O>exhales</O> <.>th</.> there's <{><[>no</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0105:HB>
      <[>do</[></{> you drive yourself by the way

  <WSC#DGB039:0110:Z1>
      yes i do

  <WSC#DGB039:0115:HB>
      what do you think of some of the guys you work with

  <WSC#DGB039:0120:Z1>
      um some of them i'd have my doubts about <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0125:HB>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0130:Z1>
      but because i know them um it's not a problem but <,> before i
      started driving i had a problem with one er one or two taxi
      drivers and i just <&>5:00</&> said i did not want ever want
      them again

  <WSC#DGB039:0135:HB>
      yes

  <WSC#DGB039:0140:Z1>
      um <,> you know there are <{><[>ways and means</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0145:HB>
      <[>cab companies need</[></{> to be told don't they that er if
      you ring back afterwards and say look you sent me cab er you
      know one one nine i don't know who cab <{><[>one nine</[> is
      they'd say you know actually i've just probably libelled
      somebody cab cab x

  <WSC#DGB039:0150:HB>
      um i don't i didn't really like the guy er and i don't want him
      back again thank you very much

  <WSC#DGB039:0155:HB>
      <.>th</.> THEY need to know that sort of feedback don't they

  <WSC#DGB039:0160:Z1>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0165:Z1>
      yes they do <{><[>um</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0170:HB>
      <[>do they</[></{> act on it do you think kelly

  <WSC#DGB039:0175:Z1>
      sorry

  <WSC#DGB039:0180:HB>
      do they act on it

  <WSC#DGB039:0185:Z1>
      yes in a lot of cases they do <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0190:HB>
      mhm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0195:Z1>
      um some of the taxi drivers themselves will say oh no um that
      person doesn't want me <,> um and they won't go and pick up
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0200:HB>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0205:Z1>
      from a certain address or <,> whatever um but generally speaking
      you know you can ask for whatever you want

  <WSC#DGB039:0210:Z1>
      you can ask for a van you can ask for a car you can ask for a
      female or a male driver <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0215:HB>
      yep <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0220:Z1>
      you can ask for <&>6:00</&> smoking nonsmoking car <{><[>um</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0225:Z1>
      you know the the choice is with the public

  <WSC#DGB039:0230:HB>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0235:HB>
      it's all about choice these days isn't it <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0240:Z1>
      it is

  <WSC#DGB039:0245:HB>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB039:0250:HB>
      well thank you very much for that kelly

  <WSC#DGB039:0255:Z1>
      you're welcome

  <WSC#DGB039:0260:HB>
      <laughs>okay</laughs>

  <WSC#DGB039:0265:Z1>
      okay

  <WSC#DGB039:0270:HB>
      bye bye

  <WSC#DGB039:0275:Z1>
      bye

  <WSC#DGB039:0280:HB>
      and i liked her honesty too

  <WSC#DGB039:0285:HB>
      there are some <.>s</.> <laughs>some drivers in her company</laughs>
      SHE wouldn't drive with either

  <WSC#DGB039:0290:HB>
      good morning sarah <&>6:13</&> <&>next caller XX not transcribed
      sounds Scottish</&> <&>10:25</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0295:HB>
      karl good morning

  <WSC#DGB039:0300:Z2>
      oh karl

  <WSC#DGB039:0305:Z2>
      er yes bill er i'm a novice at this

  <WSC#DGB039:0310:Z2>
      i'm a seventy five year old superannuitant and er i keep telling
      myself that i won't be shocked at any future news i hear <{><[>bad</[>
      news and that but i i can't help it eh

  <WSC#DGB039:0315:Z2>
      i'm amazed at this latest one with taxi drivers

  <WSC#DGB039:0320:Z2>
      i mean one time you could put your wife or lady friend or friend
      into a taxi and and at least they were safe

  <WSC#DGB039:0325:HB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0330:HB>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0335:Z2>
      till they got to their gate <{1><[1>but</[1> not now and er <.>i</.>
      i'm just wondering bill to make it short er i'm not trying to
      tell you <{2><[2>your</[2> job but er have you been in touch
      with the er association or administration taxi driving

  <WSC#DGB039:0340:HB>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB039:0345:HB>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0350:HB>
      the taxi driver proprietors' federation or federated <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0355:Z2>
      yes i'm just wondering what they what they er if they are doing
      anything the top heads about disciplining their drivers and that

  <WSC#DGB039:0360:Z2>
      what ARE they doing about it

  <WSC#DGB039:0365:HB>
      well hopefully we'll have er one of their spokesmen coming up in
      the next ten minutes or so

  <WSC#DGB039:0370:HB>
      er we've been on the line to them this morning and er so we will
      be hearing er from them before ten oclock

  <WSC#DGB039:0375:HB>
      <.>they</.> i noticed in the news story they blamed deregulation
      and i've heard this argument before that there's really very
      little control er over who who becomes a cab driver these days

  <WSC#DGB039:0380:Z2>
      yes that's that's the trouble yeah

  <WSC#DGB039:0385:HB>
      er maybe they have to go back to a system that pretty
      stringently enforces er you know anyone with a conviction
      shouldn't be let near it it for a start

  <WSC#DGB039:0390:HB>
      i don't know whether whether that still applies

  <WSC#DGB039:0395:Z2>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB039:0400:HB>
      oh well karl well we'll have a talk to them <{><[>and find out
      what they</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0405:Z2>
      <[>well thank you</[></{> thank you very much bill

  <WSC#DGB039:0410:Z2>
      that's that's all i i wanted to <{><[>say</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0415:HB>
      <[>okay</[></{> and that other advice from kelly was quite good
      wasn't it

  <WSC#DGB039:0420:HB>
      you can ring up if if you're a lady and ask for a woman cab
      driver

  <WSC#DGB039:0425:Z2>
      yes yes very good

  <WSC#DGB039:0430:HB>
      er

  <WSC#DGB039:0435:Z2>
      yep

  <WSC#DGB039:0440:HB>
      okay <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0445:Z2>
      did you er did what time did you say that er you may have them
      on

  <WSC#DGB039:0450:HB>
      well some time some time in the next ten minutes or so i would
      <{><[>have thought</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0455:Z2>
      <[>yeah yeah</[></{> very good bill

  <WSC#DGB039:0460:Z2>
      <{><[>thank you</[> very much <?>i'll be listening</?>

  <WSC#DGB039:0465:HB>
      <[>okay</[></{> i'll be listening

  <WSC#DGB039:0470:HB>
      bye bye

  <WSC#DGB039:0475:HB>
      frank good morning

  <WSC#DGB039:0480:Z3>
      morning

  <WSC#DGB039:0485:HB>
      what can we do for you

  <WSC#DGB039:0490:Z3>
      um some time ago i think this was a couple of several weeks ago
      there was a statement in the paper about them checking on er
      income tax returns being put in

  <WSC#DGB039:0495:Z3>
      did you remember that at all

  <WSC#DGB039:0500:Z3>
      think it was about eighty thousand people checked

  <WSC#DGB039:0505:HB>
      eighty three thousand were <{><[>checked er for for for <.>p</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0510:Z3>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear> eighty three thousand</[></{> and out
      of that there was about twelve thousand who had made wrong
      statements or er you know dodged paying er putting the forms in
      at all

  <WSC#DGB039:0515:HB>
      well there was something a bit iffy about them

  <WSC#DGB039:0520:HB>
      they still had they they were going to make further <{><[>checks</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0525:Z3>
      <[>well</[></{> those same people would have made the same
      statements when they put up for their community card

  <WSC#DGB039:0530:Z3>
      therefore they would be getting the community card when they
      should not be getting it

  <WSC#DGB039:0535:HB>
      that's true

  <WSC#DGB039:0540:Z3>
      therefore the poor <.>b</.> old person who's managed to save a
      couple of bob is lumbered with this er high user card

  <WSC#DGB039:0545:HB>
      mhm

  <WSC#DGB039:0550:Z3>
      so er i think myself it it proves that the <&>13:00</&> darned
      thing's just a flop and er now we've got a new person in charge
      let's hope he makes a better job than he made up at clyde dam
      <{><[>making it</[> necessary for us now to go without things to
      try and pay those debts

  <WSC#DGB039:0555:HB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0560:HB>
      the curious thing frank is i think it was helen clark pointing
      out that bill birch is <{1><[1>now</[1> the new health minister
      chaired a thing called the socialist systems reform committee of
      cabinet and an officials committee that ran underneath that <{2><[2>that</[2>
      was in charge of selling all these health reforms and jim bolger
      was involved <{3><[3><.>in</.></[3>

  <WSC#DGB039:0565:Z3>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB039:0570:Z3>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB039:0575:Z3>
      <[3>this</[3></{3> is this is correct <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0580:HB>
      but now they all sort of wash their hands <&>transmission fades
      through rest of utterance</&> a sign of a little mistake

  <WSC#DGB039:0585:HB>
      it's nothing to do with me

  <WSC#DGB039:0590:Z3>
      i think i trust farther the sort of bloke who's er a car
      salesman <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0595:HB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> would you buy a used <?>government</?>
      off of those <{><[>guys</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0600:Z3>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0605:Z3>
      anyhow er er this these <&>transmission fades through rest of
      utterance</&> those ladies that were attacked by those er <?>cabbies</?>
      in town

  <WSC#DGB039:0610:HB>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB039:0615:Z3>
      um it's very very hard for a person to rush over and help or to
      help cos what happens to them if they happen to injure one of
      those <&>14:00</&> persons

  <WSC#DGB039:0620:Z3>
      they the person that's trying to help gets slammed in the cooler
      not them

  <WSC#DGB039:0625:HB>
      you could be er yes you could get involved in an assault thing
      <{><[>i must</[> admit <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0630:Z3>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0635:Z3>
      anyhow good luck old <{><[>thing</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0640:HB>
      <[>okay</[></{> <laughs>frank</laughs> bye bye <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0645:Z3>
      see you

  <WSC#DGB039:0650:HB>
      twenty six minutes past nine on wellington two zed b talk with
      bill ralston

  <WSC#DGB039:0655:HB>
      we're taking your calls here

  <WSC#DGB039:0660:HB>
      i'm still intrigued on this mammogram story that came out in the
      news

  <WSC#DGB039:0665:HB>
      wellington doctors advising female patients over the age of
      fifty to have mammograms are being accused by the people's
      REsource centre which looks after beneficiaries of using scare
      tactics to make money

  <WSC#DGB039:0670:HB>
      i'd i i get the feeling that's unfair

  <WSC#DGB039:0675:HB>
      we should talk to the people's resource centre <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGB039:0680:HB>
      i know it costs money to have mammograms and it's another eighty
      dollars on top of a consolation er consultation fee all which is
      pretty expensive but by golly it's worse still if you get cancer
      isn't it <&>14:40</&> <&>advertisements</&> <&>15:37</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0685:HB>
      twenty nine minutes past nine on wellington two zed b

  <WSC#DGB039:0690:HB>
      what to do about cab drivers

  <WSC#DGB039:0695:HB>
      who knows

  <WSC#DGB039:0700:HB>
      morning andrea

  <WSC#DGB039:0705:Z4>
      good morning bill

  <WSC#DGB039:0710:Z4>
      er i'd actually like to talk about these women that were
      attacked in manners mall

  <WSC#DGB039:0715:HB>
      yes <&>16:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0720:Z4>
      <.>w</.> i think the issue is NOT um <,> whether people came to
      their assistance or not

  <WSC#DGB039:0725:Z4>
      the issue is they should be allowed to walk down the street
      without being attacked

  <WSC#DGB039:0730:HB>
      that's true

  <WSC#DGB039:0735:Z4>
      um the shopkeepers in wellington are talking about trying to
      attract people back into the city

  <WSC#DGB039:0740:Z4>
      as long as these groups of teenagers hang about and terrorise
      people they're never going to get um <,> customers back into
      their shops

  <WSC#DGB039:0745:HB>
      <.>that</.> yeah andrea i <.>w</.> mean i won't take my family
      down there anywhere

  <WSC#DGB039:0750:HB>
      um i mean daylight hours fine but if it's starting to get on
      towards dusk i would not walk that area of town

  <WSC#DGB039:0755:Z4>
      no i wouldn't

  <WSC#DGB039:0760:Z4>
      i find it very threatening even during the daylight hours

  <WSC#DGB039:0765:HB>
      what would you do

  <WSC#DGB039:0770:HB>
      i mean what do you do about it

  <WSC#DGB039:0775:Z4>
      well actually i think our constabulary needs to be given powers
      <,> to um haul those kids in and return them to their parents

  <WSC#DGB039:0780:Z4>
      <{><[>i've got</[> teenage kids and they're not allowed to be
      out at night when i don't know where they are

  <WSC#DGB039:0785:HB>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:0790:HB>
      i wonder if their parents really give them a stuff

  <WSC#DGB039:0795:HB>
      did you see that ad on t v about how how to create a criminal
      you <{><[>know</[> <&>17:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:0800:Z4>
      <[>oh yeah</[></{> i've i've actually been through some of that
      stuff

  <WSC#DGB039:0805:Z4>
      one of my teenagers was giving us a real hard time <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0810:HB>
      aha <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0815:Z4>
      um these kids claim that they have parents that don't understand
      and <{1><[1><O>exhales</O></[1> stuff like that yeah <,>

  <WSC#DGB039:0820:Z4>
      bill i had a bad childhood <{2><[2><O>exhales</O></[2> and i'm
      not a law <laughs>breaker</laughs> <{3><[3><O>laughs</O></[3>

  <WSC#DGB039:0825:HB>
      <[1>don't care</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB039:0830:HB>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB039:0835:HB>
      <[3><O>laughs</O></[3></{3> you sound all right

  <WSC#DGB039:0840:HB>
      you don't <{><[>sound</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0845:Z4>
      <[><.>i</.></[></{> i'm a decent person

  <WSC#DGB039:0850:Z4>
      our whole family had a bad childhood and none of us are law
      breakers

  <WSC#DGB039:0855:Z4>
      i think the kids need to be given a few hard lessons in life
      along the lines of responsibility <,> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0860:HB>
      <[>how do you get that <.>res</.></[></{> how do you give them
      that responsibility

  <WSC#DGB039:0865:HB>
      how do you how do you <{><[><.>j</.> <.>j</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0870:Z4>
      <[>i think</[></{> hauling them into the into jail for a while

  <WSC#DGB039:0875:HB>
      mhm

  <WSC#DGB039:0880:Z4>
      not into um <,,> like as for a jail term but overnight

  <WSC#DGB039:0885:HB>
      yep <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0890:Z4>
      those kids a few times of that and they might start to get real
      and having their parents hauled down to <.>c</.> to collect them
      in the morning

  <WSC#DGB039:0895:HB>
      so a short sharp shock

  <WSC#DGB039:0900:HB>
      the police should er <&>18:00</&> move in quickly er when they
      see <.>grou</.> gangs of youths hanging around like that

  <WSC#DGB039:0905:HB>
      they must be committing some <laughs>offence</laughs> <{1><[1>but</[1>
      they can pull them in get the parents <{2><[2>involved</[2>

  <WSC#DGB039:0910:Z4>
      <[1>well</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB039:0915:Z4>
      <[2>they're not</[2></{2> committing necessarily committing an
      offence at the time but their potential to commit an offence is
      VERY VERY high

  <WSC#DGB039:0920:HB>
      mm well it's a good point <{><[>that er</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0925:Z4>
      <[>i'm i'm</[></{> a i'm a bit of a um <laughs>reactionary on
      this sort of</laughs> thing i guess but i've got teenagers and i
      know that they can be very hard to handle <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0930:HB>
      yep

  <WSC#DGB039:0935:Z4>
      and i sympathise with parents who do have <.>pa</.> problems
      with their kids but the parents actually have to stop listening
      to a lot of the bleeding heart liberals that are about and take
      <,> and do what they feel comes from within them

  <WSC#DGB039:0940:Z4>
      i had a kid that got himself in trouble

  <WSC#DGB039:0945:Z4>
      he was expelled from school um and we were really thrown by what
      he did

  <WSC#DGB039:0950:Z4>
      <{><[>he was</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0955:HB>
      <[>what'd</[></{> he do <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0960:Z4>
      he was one step away from the law and when we when he came
      <&>19:00</&> home from school we um laid down rules for him

  <WSC#DGB039:0965:Z4>
      we said if you want to live in our house these are the rules

  <WSC#DGB039:0970:HB>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB039:0975:Z4>
      and he knew that that's what he had to do <{><[><.>that</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB039:0980:HB>
      <[>little bit of</[></{> tough love

  <WSC#DGB039:0985:Z4>
      well it was

  <WSC#DGB039:0990:Z4>
      i phoned the tough love people <{><[>and the</[> woman said to
      me what are you doing <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:0995:HB>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:1000:HB>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:1005:Z4>
      when i told her she said you're actually doing the right thing
      <{><[>and that was</[> my instinct but a lot of parents are too
      scared to go by their instincts

  <WSC#DGB039:1010:HB>
      <[><O>voc</O> <O>voc</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:1015:HB>
      <O>tut</O> right

  <WSC#DGB039:1020:HB>
      you'll do everything you can to appease them rather than <{><[>say</[>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB039:1025:Z4>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB039:1030:Z4>
      it's a lot of the stuff that comes out from um <,> <O>exhales</O>
      i don't want to say psychologists <O>laughs</O> but people in
      that line of work in the social services line puts a lot of the
      blame on parents <,> and i think the kids are often just wild
      kids and it's not necessarily the parents' fault <&>20:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB039:1035:HB>
      yeah and er <.>th</.> <O>exhales</O> you tend to coddle them a
      just a wee bit probably more <{><[>than they need to</[>

  <WSC#DGB039:1040:Z4>
      <[>yeah</[></{> to try and appease them

  <WSC#DGB039:1045:HB>
      it's a good point andrea

  <WSC#DGB039:1050:HB>
      andrea good to talk to you

  <WSC#DGB039:1055:HB>
      good to hear a bit of common sense there <&>20:06</&>
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