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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>3:45</&>
  

  <WSC#DGB049:0005:HJ>
      mary hello

  <WSC#DGB049:0010:Z1>
      hello there <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0015:HJ>
      hi

  <WSC#DGB049:0020:Z1>
      you ask who i would vote for next election <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0025:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0030:Z1>
      well it's not so much parties now is it

  <WSC#DGB049:0035:Z1>
      it's really people that you're voting for but the thing is that
      <.>th</.> the difficulty is that er we <&>4:00</&> don't know
      who's going to be there who's going to be rolled over do we <,,>

  <WSC#DGB049:0040:HJ>
      well you pick up on anne's point when she's reasonably happy
      hearing <O>voc</O> jim anderton <O>voc</O> represent the
      alliance and i'm saying no i'd like to hear more from the other
      people

  <WSC#DGB049:0045:HJ>
      i think it's <{><[>constructive</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0050:Z1>
      <[>well</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0055:Z1>
      jim anderton i was in the labour party when jim anderton arrived
      there and i sat behind him the day we defeated him er for
      presidency

  <WSC#DGB049:0060:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0065:Z1>
      and jim anderton is only concerned with jim anderton and only
      ever has been and ever will be

  <WSC#DGB049:0070:HJ>
      and do you think that's why more alliance people aren't allowed
      to open their mouths <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0075:Z1>
      that's right because <.>i</.> <.>i</.> <.>i</.> <.>i</.> if they
      take <.>the</.> the limelight we might be saying well i'd like
      joe bloggs for for leader

  <WSC#DGB049:0080:HJ>
      <O>inhales</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0085:Z1>
      and he would lose his public image

  <WSC#DGB049:0090:Z1>
      he's a very astute <.>po</.> politician

  <WSC#DGB049:0095:HJ>
      <O>voc</O> don't you feel though that and it seems very likely
      the way things are going the <&>5:00</&> alliance are going to
      have if not the majority of political power they're certainly
      going to be a significant political force

  <WSC#DGB049:0100:HJ>
      now what concerns me is that we don't hear from their
      spokespeople at all

  <WSC#DGB049:0105:HJ>
      we hear from doctor keith riding who's their <.>spokes</.> one
      of their <{1><[1>spokespersons</[1> on health who i've said
      publicly i think one of the finest um political aspirants i've
      ever ever spoken to or interviewed

  <WSC#DGB049:0110:HJ>
      i think he's a a very very talented and committed doctor <O>tut</O>
      and i respect him and admire him tremendously but i i couldn't
      tell you what the other people were

  <WSC#DGB049:0115:HJ>
      oh there was that len richards who then had to resign because he
      spoke such utter garbage

  <WSC#DGB049:0120:HJ>
      spokesperson on housing wasn't he <{2><[2>he</[2>

  <WSC#DGB049:0125:Z1>
      <[1>yes</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB049:0130:Z1>
      <[2>yes</[2></{2> but if you take you take the alliance people
      that are in public office at the present time they haven't done
      much have they

  <WSC#DGB049:0135:HJ>
      no but they're going to have to learn quick smart if if people
      in new zealand are going to vote alliance on the strength of jim
      anderton alone

  <WSC#DGB049:0140:HJ>
      it's jim anderton can't be everywhere at <&>6:00</&> once he's
      the the people who VOTE for the alliance are gonna be served by
      people in their local area <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0145:Z1>
      precisely

  <WSC#DGB049:0150:HJ>
      yeah and they're going to be given um spokesmanship and
      portfolios depending upon the vote <{><[>and <.>the</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0155:Z1>
      <[>and we</[></{> don't one man bands <{><[><.>do</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0160:HJ>
      <[>no</[></{> but that's why i think it's really important to
      try to understand who the other people are and where their heads
      are and what their ideas are like <{><[>don't you agree</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0165:Z1>
      <[>well it's a bag of</[></{> liquorice allsorts isn't it

  <WSC#DGB049:0170:HJ>
      well i just wish we heard a bit more from them

  <WSC#DGB049:0175:Z1>
      well you won't <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0180:HJ>
      <[>you</[></{> don't think <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0185:Z1>
      <laughs>no</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0190:HJ>
      you're not gonna vote alliance are you <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0195:Z1>
      no no thanks <unclear>word</unclear> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0200:HJ>
      over your dead body huh <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0205:Z1>
      <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0210:HJ>
      okay mary <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0215:Z1>
      <laughs>bye</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0220:HJ>
      bye

  <WSC#DGB049:0225:HJ>
      three oh nine three oh double nine is our phone number and we've
      got the bulletin then back with more calls <&>6:36</&> <&>four
      minutes nineteen seconds of news and weather broadcasts and
      commercials not transcribed</&> <&>10:55</&>

  <WSC#DGB049:0230:HJ>
      <theme music>afternoon new zealand

  <WSC#DGB049:0235:HJ>
      here's dave joining in from huntly

  <WSC#DGB049:0240:HJ>
      dave hello</theme music> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB049:0245:Z2>
      yeah <.>go</.> gidday jenny <{><[>first time</[> caller

  <WSC#DGB049:0250:HJ>
      <[>gidday</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0255:HJ>
      great

  <WSC#DGB049:0260:Z2>
      um look i'm just ringing up and er just wanted to have a little
      bit of a chat about all this er police thing that's been going
      on

  <WSC#DGB049:0265:Z2>
      there seems to be a lot of er discussion about it

  <WSC#DGB049:0270:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0275:Z2>
      who's right and who's wrong and <laughs>noone sort of</laughs>
      <.>kn</.> really knows what's going on but um i was involved
      with er the new south wales police for a few years

  <WSC#DGB049:0280:Z2>
      um i'd left the air force and i was at loss to what to do with
      myself <&>pronounced meself</&> so i went to australia on a
      working holiday

  <WSC#DGB049:0285:Z2>
      i ended up joining the new south wales police force <{><[>and er</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0290:HJ>
      <[>you're a</[></{> kiwi guy are you

  <WSC#DGB049:0295:Z2>
      pardon?

  <WSC#DGB049:0300:HJ>
      you kiwi?

  <WSC#DGB049:0305:Z2>
      yep yep

  <WSC#DGB049:0310:HJ>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB049:0315:Z2>
      and i was in the new south wales police force for six years and
      then i left new south wales police force and transferred into
      the queensland police force at the stock squad which was um a
      country and western <{><[><laughs>type er</laughs></[> police
      force

  <WSC#DGB049:0320:Z2>
      we <.>ro</.> er drove round and cut down landrovers and
      everything looking for cattle duffers

  <WSC#DGB049:0325:HJ>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0330:HJ>
      were you there under sir joh

  <WSC#DGB049:0335:Z2>
      pardon?

  <WSC#DGB049:0340:Z2>
      <{><[>yep yeah that's right yeah</[> sir joh yeah dannevirke boy
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0345:HJ>
      <[>were you there under sir joh</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0350:HJ>
      were you

  <WSC#DGB049:0355:Z2>
      <laughs>yeah</laughs> <{><[>but</[> er anyway um i just wanted
      to offer my opinions

  <WSC#DGB049:0360:Z2>
      um over <.>in</.> in australia where the police are armed they
      and they show them that you know the guns are holstered on their
      hips when they're doing point duty and things like that

  <WSC#DGB049:0365:HJ>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB049:0370:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0375:Z2>
      um they're not concealed

  <WSC#DGB049:0380:Z2>
      public can see them and you are confident you know that er that
      cop is armed

  <WSC#DGB049:0385:Z2>
      you know if anything happens you know you're reasonably safe

  <WSC#DGB049:0390:HJ>
      well i lived in queensland for a while and i was fairly <laughs>confident
      seeing these</laughs> but i tell you they are massive cops

  <WSC#DGB049:0395:HJ>
      are you over six foot

  <WSC#DGB049:0400:Z2>
      me no no no <{><[>no</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0405:HJ>
      <[>they</[></{> all seem to be

  <WSC#DGB049:0410:Z2>
      yeah oh yes <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0415:HJ>
      <[>reaching</[></{> to the <{><[>sky</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0420:Z2>
      <[>in</[></{> new south wales i think i <laughs>might have been
      one of the shortest ones there</laughs> cos you know it's our
      uniform consisted of <drawls>er</drawls> motorbike trousers
      jackboots um and your blue shirts <.>and</.> and it did they did
      look um very authoritarian i suppose is is that the word

  <WSC#DGB049:0425:Z2>
      yeah they looked like they meant business but at the same time
      you know er um me being a kiwi um and experiencing a lot of life
      <{><[>before</[> i actually joined

  <WSC#DGB049:0430:HJ>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0435:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0440:Z2>
      the police force my attitude may have been <&>13:00</&>
      different um which <.>f</.> <.>would</.> could possibly be a lot
      of trouble too with the recruits that er go into the police
      force

  <WSC#DGB049:0445:Z2>
      they go in about nineteen over here don't they

  <WSC#DGB049:0450:HJ>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0455:Z2>
      and er they've had no experience of <{><[>life <?>yet</?></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0460:HJ>
      <[>hey that uniform</[></{> did it affect your head

  <WSC#DGB049:0465:Z2>
      um no because i'd been in the airforce er for seven years eight
      years before

  <WSC#DGB049:0470:HJ>
      but for a nineteen or a twenty year old to be wearing jackboots
      and um motorcycle trousers and a blue shirt with a

  <WSC#DGB049:0475:Z2>
      oh <{><[>yeah the sunglasses <unclear>word</unclear></[> yes a
      bit of the <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0480:HJ>
      <[>a weapon strapped <?>in it</?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0485:HJ>
      wrap around <{><[>mirrors</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0490:Z2>
      <[><?>looked</?> something</[></{> like chips or something like
      that <{1><[1>yeah</[1> but um <O>tut</O> er you see the young
      fellas that go in the police force i reckon it's wrong that they
      have to be put straight up into er into this sort of business
      straight away

  <WSC#DGB049:0495:Z2>
      um they need to <laughs>go to</laughs> the quiet places <.>fir</.>
      er to to to get learn public relations learn how to talk to
      different types of people and and how to you know get a life
      first maybe you know go out and do a an honest forty forty hour
      week job or something learn how to relate to people <{2><[2>and
      then maybe</[2>

  <WSC#DGB049:0500:HJ>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB049:0505:HJ>
      <[2><.>an</.> and how to</[2></{2> and maybe how <.>to</.> <.>d</.>
      to <{><[>diffuse a potential</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0510:Z2>
      <[>yeah maybe</[></{> yeah yeah um maybe like go in at
      <&>14:00</&> nineteen and do your training but sent out to go
      and get a real job and a real life for a year or so and then
      come back or something maybe i don't know but er um i think
      nineteen is too young and you put them into a fast falcon car or
      a holden car um and they've got no experience at driving er on
      car chases and things like this and then give them a gun a
      nineteen

  <WSC#DGB049:0515:Z2>
      twenty

  <WSC#DGB049:0520:Z2>
      twenty one

  <WSC#DGB049:0525:Z2>
      i don't care what age if <.>he's</.> you know if you got to
      point a gun <.>and</.> <drawls>er</drawls> at someone to to stop
      them from doing something or breaking the law i'm damn sure that
      you the gun holder is probably more nervous than the er the
      person who's doing the crime because they're probably hyped up
      on drugs or anything and they don't really care and er it's a
      survival to them you know

  <WSC#DGB049:0530:HJ>
      what was the situation in queensland with er <O>voc</O> recruits
      straight out of police college

  <WSC#DGB049:0535:HJ>
      were they ever <{><[>allowed off</[> on their own <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0540:Z2>
      <[>oh i think</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0545:Z2>
      yeah but some you don't <.>y</.> <.>y</.> you didn't even have
      to go to police college sometimes

  <WSC#DGB049:0550:HJ>
      really

  <WSC#DGB049:0555:Z2>
      no well they had recruiting officers in the country towns

  <WSC#DGB049:0560:Z2>
      they had you know police constables wanted now and you could go
      in <&>15:00</&> and sign your papers

  <WSC#DGB049:0565:Z2>
      this is back i would say the midseventies

  <WSC#DGB049:0570:HJ>
      <O>tut</O> <.>but</.> but tell me were they allowed off on their
      own <{><[>or or did they always have another <.>experienced</.></[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0575:Z2>
      <[>no no no no they were</[></{> a rooky for a couple of years

  <WSC#DGB049:0580:HJ>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB049:0585:Z2>
      yeah always had a partner

  <WSC#DGB049:0590:HJ>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGB049:0595:Z2>
      yeah <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0600:HJ>
      <[>i</[></{> can't understand why they don't here in new zealand

  <WSC#DGB049:0605:HJ>
      <{><[>it's so <.>b</.> so dangerous isn't it</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0610:Z2>
      <[>um yeah well you've got to <.>remember</.> yeah</[></{> well
      i i <.>f</.> i <.>f</.> think the police here in new zealand um
      <O>tut</O> at the way things are now at the moment <drawls>um</drawls>
      is is okay but um i don't like the idea of of police whether
      uniformed or not riding around in cars with concealed weapons

  <WSC#DGB049:0615:Z2>
      to me they're breaking the law

  <WSC#DGB049:0620:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0625:Z2>
      i mean if <.>you</.> if you and i as civilians carried a pistol
      or a rifle in a car and it was loaded or could be loaded or
      walking down the street with a pistol in our pockets straight
      away we'd be had up for having a concealed weapon

  <WSC#DGB049:0630:HJ>
      that's right so you think it's safer to have them revealed <{1><[1>like
      they do in australia

  <WSC#DGB049:0635:HJ>
      listen</[1> you know when you said you were in new south wales
      for six years <{2><[2>did</[2> you have any did you see or hear
      of any evidence of the corruption amongst the police force when
      <&>16:00</&> you were there

  <WSC#DGB049:0640:Z2>
      <[1>i would say yeah yeah yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB049:0645:Z2>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB049:0650:Z2>
      oh yeah oh heck yeah

  <WSC#DGB049:0655:Z2>
      i'd probably i'd i'd say probably australia is probably one of
      the most corrupt westernised modern police force in the world

  <WSC#DGB049:0660:HJ>
      can you give us an idea of how it works <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0665:Z2>
      <drawls>OH</drawls> well <{><[>i mean</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0670:HJ>
      <[>give <?>us</?></[></{> an example <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0675:Z2>
      you've got um <laughs>you've got very</laughs> high up ex police
      officers still doing time for um being involved in marijuana
      cultivation round griffith and new south wales

  <WSC#DGB049:0680:Z2>
      um admittedly a lot of them are um <drawls>um</drawls> what
      mediterranean descendant um but er um <O>laughs</O> prostitution
      rings running prostitution rings that's er <.>what</.> <.>the</.>
      these <.>so</.> that's life in the big city

  <WSC#DGB049:0685:Z2>
      i mean that's part of life

  <WSC#DGB049:0690:HJ>
      okay you came from the new zealand airforce <{><[>into</[> this

  <WSC#DGB049:0695:Z2>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0700:Z2>
      mhm

  <WSC#DGB049:0705:HJ>
      did you just did you learn quickly just to keep your mouth shut
      and <{><[>your eyes open</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0710:Z2>
      <[><drawls>um</drawls></[></{> well i was lucky i was i when i'd
      finished my basic training um i was sent up to the border up to
      um up to tenterfield way er in warwick you know <&>17:00</&>
      it's the south of queensland <{><[>and</[> i was in a a
      relatively er country area er probably town's about the size of
      <drawls>oh</drawls> rotorua tauranga and things like that
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0715:HJ>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0720:HJ>
      yep

  <WSC#DGB049:0725:Z2>
      and there was no gangs no crime in in the sense that we got them
      over here because they wouldn't stand for an aborigine putting a
      patch on over there

  <WSC#DGB049:0730:HJ>
      is that right

  <WSC#DGB049:0735:Z2>
      oh <laughs>no</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0740:HJ>
      why what <{><[>would happen</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0745:Z2>
      <[>aborigines</[></{> are kept well below er er street level
      <laughs>you know what i mean</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0750:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0755:Z2>
      um <,> <laughs>there</laughs> was no such things as gangs

  <WSC#DGB049:0760:Z2>
      you'd get the odd motorcycle club but they were er you know i
      mean i had two brother police officers who are in a motorcycle
      club too but only because they were fanatics about the bikes not
      fanatic about the er about the er gang

  <WSC#DGB049:0765:HJ>
      did you yourself ever see any evidence of <O>voc</O> corruption
      in the police

  <WSC#DGB049:0770:HJ>
      did you <.>a</.> actually see anything

  <WSC#DGB049:0775:Z2>
      <drawls>oh no</drawls> no nothing <.>y</.> you know <laughs>the</laughs>
      no because see i like i said i was in a country city er country
      town um and <&>18:00</&> <.>it</.> <.>i</.> it was more of
      looking the other way <.>y</.> you know

  <WSC#DGB049:0780:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0785:Z2>
      um <O>tut</O> or ignoring things or <.>j</.> just using your own
      gut feeling <{><[>you know</[>

  <WSC#DGB049:0790:HJ>
      <[>and what about</[></{> in queensland

  <WSC#DGB049:0795:HJ>
      could you bribe your way out of a prostitution ring there <O>voc</O>
      slipping money to the cops like we've heard

  <WSC#DGB049:0800:Z2>
      sorry repeat that

  <WSC#DGB049:0805:HJ>
      could you bribe your way out of a prostitution er business by by
      <O>voc</O> paying money to the cops <,,>

  <WSC#DGB049:0810:Z2>
      um like if i was a pimp or <{><[>something you're</[> saying

  <WSC#DGB049:0815:HJ>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0820:HJ>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0825:Z2>
      um oh yeah yeah of course it could be done yeah yeah

  <WSC#DGB049:0830:Z2>
      i mean that sort of i mean there's er there's these i mean if
      you watch some of these documentaries that are going on <drawls>um</drawls>
      now and again about the australian police and <?>the <.>h</.></?>
      you know and even some of these er new zealand comedy programmes
      and <laughs>australian</laughs> comedy programmes always have a
      dig at the victorian police <{><[>now and</[> again you know
      because they seem to be all a bit trigger happy um but er no
      there is there is oh there's corruption at all levels

  <WSC#DGB049:0835:Z2>
      i mean it's <?>there</?> probably is here too in new zealand too
      but <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0840:HJ>
      <[>true</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0845:HJ>
      are you <{><[>back</[> home on holiday or <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0850:Z2>
      <[><?><.>bu</.></?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0855:Z2>
      no no no i live here all the time now

  <WSC#DGB049:0860:Z2>
      no i finished

  <WSC#DGB049:0865:Z2>
      i'm you know <{><[>i've <?>been at it</?> a</[> long time ago
      <latch> <&>19:00</&>

  <WSC#DGB049:0870:HJ>
      <[>you retired?</[></{>

  <WSC#DGB049:0875:HJ>
      have you

  <WSC#DGB049:0880:Z2>
      mm

  <WSC#DGB049:0885:HJ>
      welcome home

  <WSC#DGB049:0890:Z2>
      oh i've been home for about oh <O>exhales</O> about eight years
      i suppose now yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGB049:0895:HJ>
      you glad you're out of the force

  <WSC#DGB049:0900:Z2>
      <drawls>mm</drawls> yes yeah um in one way

  <WSC#DGB049:0905:Z2>
      um it was a good experience it was a good experience

  <WSC#DGB049:0910:HJ>
      what do you do now

  <WSC#DGB049:0915:Z2>
      me?

  <WSC#DGB049:0920:Z2>
      i farm

  <WSC#DGB049:0925:HJ>
      do you

  <WSC#DGB049:0930:Z2>
      yep yep

  <WSC#DGB049:0935:HJ>
      it's not over yet either <{1><[1><O>laughs</O></[1>

  <WSC#DGB049:0940:HJ>
      <laughs>it's not over yet <{2><[2>either</[2>

  <WSC#DGB049:0945:HJ>
      okay</laughs> <laughs>dave</laughs> <{3><[3><O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGB049:0950:HJ>
      hey good call</[3>

  <WSC#DGB049:0955:HJ>
      <laughs>see you later <{4><[4><drawls>bye</drawls></laughs></[4>
      <laughs>what an interesting life

  <WSC#DGB049:0960:HJ>
      hell he's not just STUCK in one boring old RUT of a job is he

  <WSC#DGB049:0965:HJ>
      he's lived</laughs> <&>19:32</&>

  <WSC#DGB049:0970:Z2>
      <[1>eh?</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGB049:0975:Z2>
      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGB049:0980:Z2>
      <[3>okay then yes you're welcome</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGB049:0985:Z2>
      <[4>okay bye bye</[4></{4>
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