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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side two</&>
  <&>6:33</&>
  

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      gary's biggest worry is keeping the players from getting too
      hyped up before the match but he says he's sure they'll be okay
      on the day

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      his parents anne and ken whetton share his worries and they're
      all organised a little hyped up and a little nervous as well as
      they prepare themselves mentally and emotionally for the big
      game that kicks off at two a m tomorrow morning

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      <O>inhales</O> now anne whetton is a keen sportswoman herself as
      well as following her two sons gary and alan

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      she's played a lot of sports and er in fact she's playing her
      very <&>7:00</&> first game of bowls right at this very moment
      so i had to talk to her a little earlier in the morning

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      i began by asking her WHERE she's going to be watching the big
      game

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      we're gonna be actually watching it at home here <,> because it
      starts at twelve thirty with the build up of the er opening
      ceremony so it's going to be a long morning isn't it <O>laughs</O>

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      will there be anyone apart from yourself and your husband there
      to watch the er the boys perform

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      er yes we've um we do have a very dear family friend from
      australia who will be staying she's coming actually today <,>
      and a couple of other family friends that've watched all games
      with us for many many years so they're going to stay the night
      as well

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      so you planning a bit of a party

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      er <drawls>oh</drawls> well we hope so <O>laughs</O>

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      oh <.>we</.> yes it will <,> you know um we're certainly going
      to have a get together <,> but <drawls>er</drawls> we would've
      liked to have helen our daughter <,> but of course it's er er er
      um a school day so the children've got to get to school so
      they'll be staying home for that one

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      oh indeed

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      <{><[><,> so</[> is it quite a a social <&>8:00</&> occasion or
      is there a bit of tension there as well as you watch them play

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      <drawls>oh</drawls> there's always tension

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      you can't help it can you <O>laughs</O>

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      you know even after all these years there's er <,> er <.>y</.>
      <.>y</.> you try not to but er this is always a a bit of tension
      there

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      you get a bit hyped up you know not hyped up but <,> you get
      nervous for them <,>

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      you can't help it

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      i can't help it

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      ken can't help it <O>laughs</O>

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      do you wish that you could be over there at twickenham watching
      the game live

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      oh yes er we we would've loved to have been there but er we did
      go on our first tour in eighty nine to wales and ireland and we
      did actually go to twickenham then so um no we decided well
      we've done it that time <,> and we'll just be <.>wi</.> <.>i</.>
      <.>th</.> <.>wi</.> <.>we</.> <.>wi</.> be with them in spirit
      this time anyway

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      <O>laughs</O> well alan of course lives at home and and so <.>you</.>
      you're very close to him in the in the preparation he's done in
      the lead up for these big games

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      um he's had a bit of trouble with the injuries

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      <.>are</.> are you a bit worried <&>9:00</&> that that might be
      a problem to him when he's playing

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      <drawls>no</drawls> um all i think er you know if you worry
      about that <.>d</.> you know we might as well not watch it um

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      really um they know when they're fit and um he has had a couple
      of injuries but er they haven't been serious injuries

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      they've just been jolly silly niggly things that er you know but
      still has kept him off the field but he's fine

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      any special things that you did for him in the preparation for
      the game and the lead up

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      er any special things er <drawls>oh</drawls> er just feed him
      properly

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      ha ha ha

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      does he really eat baked beans

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      <drawls>er well</drawls> <.>ye</.> yes well actually i do myself
      you know i swim a lot and er i find that's a very good breakfast
      for me <O>laughs</O>

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      so you're a family that that like to keep fit together and eat
      well er

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      is that fair

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      well yes we've always been a sports family um

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      you know i've always loved my sports

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      i played a lot of sport at school and er you know carried it on
      in <.>my</.> when <.>we</.> when i got married and had the
      children and um er particularly the <&>10:00</&> racquet games
      and you know the ball games but um and er the children <.>with</.>
      you know've <.>al</.> we've always had a sports environment in
      the family

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      have alan and gary always been parTIcularly good at the rugby
      right from the word go

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      no er <.>w</.> well no not really

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      we um you know my husband was a rugby player and a referee and
      er being in the bank we did shift around a lot around the
      countryside and er when we in tokoroa they were <.>dy</.> they
      they wanted to play then so that we they started at a nine or
      ten year olds i think <O>inhales</O> but then we transferred to
      auckland two years later and er alan went to hockey at grammar
      and um gary who was <,> much bigger and of course is a a <.>wei</.>
      they go by weights in auckland

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      he was going to be far too young playing with the other boys of
      his weight <O>laughs</O> so he played <.>t</.> <.>t</.> soccer
      for five years

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      they went to rugby at fifteen <&>11:00</&>

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      oh <{1><[1>so</[1> they were late coming to the game

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      from the time they did were they <{2><[2>keen</[2>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>well</[2></{2> they always followed it <{><[>and you</[>
      know watched it but er they didn't er really get you know
      playing it together well playing it till they were in the fifth
      form

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      <[><drawls>yeah</drawls></[></{>

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      <.>a</.> and did they always have an ambition anne to to become
      all blacks one day wear the silver fern

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      well as i recall you know i don't they might've in themselves
      but i don't ever recall them <.>s</.> talking about ever going
      to be all blacks

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      i think you know when you're playing a lot of different sports
      you just enjoy it and er er i <.>do</.> i don't really recall

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      maybe they did but i don't recall them saying it

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      was there much competition between the two of them when they
      were getting better and better at the game of rugby and it was
      you know looking pretty good for both of them

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      i don't i don't think you could call it actually <.>com</.>
      competition in in the sense of against each other

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      they were always you know tremendously um um helpful to each
      other and er <&>12:00</&> there has always been a rivalry in
      other sports with them but er with rugby they just seem to talk
      about it together and work together and cos they played in
      different positions as well though they didn't at school they
      both locked the scrum at school but er then alan became a
      flanker when he got further up the grade

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      are they very different temperamentally

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      i i guess you know to the outsider people think oh yes the the
      whetton brothers you know <.>the</.> they're both rugby players

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      they both er you know they're twins

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      they look the same sort of thing but are they very different

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      er yes i <.>th</.> yes they are different in in nature but er
      very close and very very good friends

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      um you know they <.>ju</.> they're just really great mates as
      one <laughs>would say</laughs> um but they are different in in
      nature personality

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      well alan of course still lives at home

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      is he er tend to be an active sort of a fellow around the house
      or does he give his all to the rugby <{><[>and then not have
      much left for the housework</[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <O>laughs</O> well i think if he had to
      <&>13:00</&> do it he WOULD do it

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      <.>w</.> they were very good when they were younger

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      i must admit that

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      they did help around the place you know as all children you know
      when they <.>g</.> um they're young they have their jobs around
      the place

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      of course they did a herald run and that sort of thing milk runs
      <,> made their beds did the dishes you know the usual <?>gen</?>
      of children but um they got older and got into into a lot of
      training <,>

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      um probably they could do it but maybe i spoilt them a bit

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      i did a lot of it <O>laughs</O>

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      and i guess alan spends a lot of time with the training and the
      preparation for the game

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      <.>th</.> they've both been great home boys you know

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      <.>ala</.> gary's married now but <.>they</.> <.>nei</.> neither
      of them ever flatted and um i guess cos they had each other's
      company anyway um and um alan's never he will probably one day
      but i think while he's got his rugby he likes being home and <O>laughs</O>
      getting the proper food and

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      you've looked <{><[>after him</[>

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      <[>the washing</[></{> done <O>laughs</O> <&>14:00</&>

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      oh you do the washing too <O>laughs</O>

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      oh yes oh YES <O>laughs</O>

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      they still come home with the dirty jumpers and things and give
      them to mum <O>laughs</O>

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      well yes as i say as long <.>th</.> <.>me</.> as long as he
      soaks them when they're really dirty i i don't mind

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      machines are easy aren't they so that's no hassle

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      and they tell me you're the one who keeps the statistics on the
      on the lads and and how they've performed over the years

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      er <.>di</.> it give you a lot of pleasure looking back through
      the scrap books

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      well yes it's quite amazing

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      i <.>n</.> i had a friend here the other day who said oh let's
      have a look at your scrapbooks and um it's quite amazing when
      you look over the years the different things and um different
      journalism and different comments and different games and no
      it's er i enjoy doing it and it's something for their children
      to look at in years to come isn't it

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      do they sort of supply you with articles that have been written
      about them overseas and that kind of thing <{><[><?>for the
      scrapbook</?></[>

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      <[><drawls>no</drawls> they</[></{> don't

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      they're <.>very</.> they're very low key like that

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      if i get <&>15:00</&> anything from overseas it's usually from
      somebody else <,>

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      you know i i'd you know i'd keep <.>f</.> it as far as new
      zealand goes but um no <.>the</.> they very rarely do that <,>
      mm

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      the <,> highlights i guess over the years was there a particular
      moment when you you felt most proud of them you know maybe when
      gary did his test debut in south africa in eighty one or or alan
      with australia in his test debut

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      was there a moment that sort of stands out for you as as when
      you felt REALLY proud of them

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      oh er well cos you're always proud of them but er i think
      probably er the highlight would've been gary's first test when
      he was called into the team cos that was his first game even for
      new zealand and er <O>voc</O> but probably before that we were
      even thrilled when they made the colts team

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      gary made it first then alan

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      that was a big thrill so um making the auckland team you know
      they've all been big thrills and of course then <&>16:00</&> <.>n</.>
      the um highlight must be of course making the all black team yes

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      <?>yeah</?> it must be great to have BOTH of them in it

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      <laughs>yes</laughs> <O>laughs</O> it's very exciting

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      but did you ever think that'd happen

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      no not really <O>laughs</O> um or maybe when they got to new
      zealand colts thought there might be a chance there um you know
      and they were <,> really training hard and really keen and um
      you know they just well they just love putting on that jersey
      don't they <O>laughs</O>

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      the the journalists over the years <.>i</.> i guess the all
      blacks have always been the focus of attention and <.>at</.>
      probably at the time that that buck shelford wasn't captain
      anymore and and gary was made captain there were some pretty
      strong words said

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      has any of that ever been hurtful for the family anne

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      um well maybe for mel <.>an</.> mum and pa <O>laughs</O>

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      i mean <.>th</.> the boys attitude is marvellous as <&>17:00</&>
      always um

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      maybe it was because as i say it was a great thrill for him and
      we knew he could do it and um he wasn't replacng him in his
      position but he all he was doing was was replacing him as the
      captain wasn't he and um but oh you forget about that you know
      um

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      it's goes in the past very quickly

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      well the big game is is today

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      they're going to be going through <.>an</.> and i guess there's
      going to be a world attention focused on them

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      <.>w</.> what's what's your best hope for them

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      i just hope a that er they play well the team plays well and b
      that they have a good win <,> you know i think er and enjoy the
      game but er i think that the most important thing is that er and
      i know they will you know they <.>a</.> they all just play well

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      are you going to be talking to them afterwards anne

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      er sometimes we do and sometimes we don't

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      it <&>17:00</&> all depends

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      um you know gary will be talking to jane so we usually catch up
      that way um

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      as i say it it's hard sometimes to <.>get</.> get hold of them

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      it's a matter of them trying to get hold of us <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      well good luck

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      i hope er you can keep the nervous tension under control and
      that you can enjoy the game as well anne

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      well we'll do both and thank you very much indeed

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      thank you very much anne and good luck with the bowls

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      oh thank you indeed

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      all right <latch>

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      okay thanks very much for your <{1><[1>time</[1> anne

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      bye <{2><[2>bye</[2>

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      <[1>right</[1></{1>

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      <[2>bye</[2></{2> bye <&>18:30</&>
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