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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>3:49</&>
  

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      but whether the cup comes south or not will have little effect
      on the enjoyment of the average weekend yachtie <O>inhales</O>
      so

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      far from the high tech razzmatazz of san diego what IS the
      PLEASURE that a plain sailer like bo boyd gets out on the water

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      oh yeah well it's the easy comfortable um no noise ride really
      you know and er the sheer pleasure <.>of</.> of having a boat
      <.>that</.> well especially a boat that will GO if you know what
      to do to make it go

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      <{1><[1>you</[1> know that's <.>the</.> one of the boats that I
      had um that's still IN this district er john dallymore's got it
      now the old MARu

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      she was a nineteen hundred and three built mullet boat twenty
      four footer <{2><[2><?>gas</[2> rig</?> <latch>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2><.>n</.></[2></{2>

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      now MULLET boat <.>that</.> <.>the</.> <.>they're</.> they hail
      <.>f</.> hail from the auckland er <{1><[1>region don't</[1>
      they <{2><[2>yeah</[2> specially designed for catching mullet

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      <[1>yes yes</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      yeah that's right <{><[>shallow</[> water <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      with the plate up she um maru was probably about two foot two i
      think was the draught with the plate up and scratching near
      eight foot when it was down <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      <laughs>so she</laughs> she had a fair grip of the water couple
      of tonne of ballast er six hundred square foot of working sail
      and she could really go <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      REALLY perform

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      it didn't like it when <&>5:00</&> things got real bad on the
      nose um cos she <.>was</.> she was carrying too much <?>rag on
      it</?> you know and it was <O>voc</O> she was a devil to handle
      especially if you were on your own <{><[>i can tell you</[>

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      <[>too <.>mu</.></[></{> too much sail?

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      oh yeah <.>was</.> it was always a job to get it in in time you
      know <latch>

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      mm

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      to shorten up especially if you were like on your own or with
      just <.>a</.> one other bloke but <.>they</.> when you come off
      them at the end of the day you <laughs>certainly knew you'd been
      somewhere

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      you're bloody exhausted</laughs> <O>laughs</O> but oh teach you
      a lot in a short period of time that's for sure <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      <drawls>yeah</drawls>

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      but you have a lot of affection for the old <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>OH yeah</[></{> yeah

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      well um <O>inhales</O> you know <.>i</.> i started doing a bit
      of <.>s</.> i <.>was</.> when i first came here i was more
      interested in the launches but um then i started do a bit of
      sailing with an old bloke called allan furman

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      he's still about <.>a</.> a quarryman of course and needless to
      say you know if you're a quarryman you have to be a bloody hard
      case <O>laughs</O> and he WAS and um <,> i can remember one time
      coming back from <.>a</.> from a holiday that barb and i had
      <&>6:00</&> had with him er up on the barrier there one time <O>inhales</O>
      and er it was a forty two foot victris trimaran

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      anyway we <.>were</.> we were off the wind sailing <.>from</.>
      from um rosalie bay it was

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      i'd been diving um on the wiltshire and er we were heading down
      to see some friends of ours in rocky bay <O>sniffs</O> <O>inhales</O>

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      anyway we were steaming along in this old blimmin boat and <O>inhales</O>
      er was no CONCERN anywhere although probably we should have been
      um <.>cause</.> she <.>we</.> we had the blimmin <?>windward
      sponson</?> was WAY UP out of the water and er that's on the
      edge for that sort of boat

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      <laughs>well I think it is</laughs> <O>laughs</O>

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      anyway um i remember it <.>was</.> it must have been doing a
      good twenty eight thirty two knots thereabouts and i remember us
      rounding up <.>into</.> to go into rocky bay to meet these
      friends of ours two or three other boat loads of people there
      waiting for us to come down <O>inhales</O> and i remember us
      rounding up to go in there and of course we were gonna tack up
      into the bay and <.>drop</.> drop anchor like all <laughs>good
      yachties <&>7:00</&> should do</laughs> <O>laughs</O> and um
      bugger me days if <.>we</.> we found it too hard on the nose and
      of course <.>that</.> that type of boat they don't go that well
      to windward well they don't go too high SHE never used to go
      very high and um anyway we found ourselves in <.>a</.> sort of
      in an awkward situation and right in the middle of rocky bay
      there there's one HELL of a big rock <O>laughs</O> that only
      just cracks <laughs>the surface</laughs> <{1><[1><O>laughs</O></[1>
      <O>inhales</O> and um this rock's getting closer so <.>i</.> i
      manage to <.>grab</.> we had a BIG HEAVY bloody um <O>tut</O>
      oregon pine spinnaker pole you know <O>laughs</O> and <.>i</.> i
      was a reasonably sort of a powerful bloke in those days

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      i tossed the end of the spinnaker out and got it on top of the
      rock <O>laughs</O> and i put the end of it against the belting
      on this bloody plywood boat

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      you know what plywood boats are like

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      <laughs>if you get it in the wrong place of course it goes
      straight bloody through</laughs> but fortunately it got right on
      the edge of the belting and this old <.>bloody</.> you've never
      seen such a bend in a blimmin pole in all your life it <&>squeaky
      noise</&> and we managed that and there was quite <&>8:00</&> a
      swell running too you know and um bit of surf breaking over this
      rock and the old boat drifted she <drawls>JUST</drawls> drifted
      round and cleared it <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>

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      but oh he was <.>a</.> he was a dag and er we had a lot of fun
      with him <{3><[3><O>laughs</O></[3>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      <[3><O>laughs</O></[3></{3>

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      bo <.>i</.> i wonder er perhaps last century or years ago anyway
      there was this whole romance of sail <.>this</.> is that the
      same KIND of thing on a smaller scale that a YACHTSman gets

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      oh yeah <.>i</.> no doubt <.>i'd</.> i'd agree <.>w</.> HAVE to
      agree with that

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      er i <.>don't</.> i don't think that the romance has GONE um

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      you <.>got</.> well a lot of people that i know <.>that</.> that
      are into sail

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      mm

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      um sure it's a <.>different</.> slightly different SORT of
      sailing <.>in</.> in the respect that you got boats that are
      sleek <.>and</.> and light and er will GO fast <.>under</.> with
      lighter winds um

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      just tell me what it's LIKE when you're out there and with <.>a</.>
      with a good breeze and you've got the sail up

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      well um it's just <.>a</.> a complete feeling of freedom um
      momentum nice steady through the <&>9:00</&> water in <.>a</.>
      in <.>a</.> in a sort of a er in a very sort of stable way

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      you've just got <.>this</.> the WAVES are just slipping away
      underneath you know as you're sailing along not like in <.>a</.>
      sort of in a launch when you're moping along and <.>you're</.>
      you're sort of rolling and pitching a little bit all over the
      place <O>inhales</O>

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      um <.>there's</.> there's no motor to um well MOTORS drive you
      NUTS you know <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and er anyway er with sailing all <.>you'll</.> you'll just a
      slap of the water and the odd bit of spray coming across and <.>a</.>
      and a bit of whistling in the rigging um that's all you get

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      a very er you know it's a GREAT feeling but it's er it's <.>even</.>
      it's even a better feeling to my way of thinking at NIGHT yeah

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      is that right <{><[>sailing</[> at night

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      <[>oh yeah</[></{>

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      well you seem to <{><[>get</[> the impression that <.>you're</.>
      you're going along a lot quicker than you are and you know <.>it's</.>
      it's a real buzz

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      mm <latch>

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      yeah especially if you've got <.>a</.> if you're out maybe in
      the middle of the murk somewhere and it blown up and you <O>inhales</O>
      and you've got to shift and you decide to sail um and course
      <&>10:00</&> half of you KNOWS where you are and the other half
      doesn't <O>laughs</O> so you're <O>sniffs</O> and sometimes
      there's always a bit of doubt to exactly where you are but <.>you</.>
      <.>r</.> really inside you know and er yeah doing it by the seat
      of your pants NO instruments nothing

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      mm <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      and that's the way you <{><[>like</[> it <latch>

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      <[>good</[></{>

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      yeah

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      i think the best day <.>we</.> the most enjoyable DAY'S sailing
      i've EVER had <,> was one day that my brother roe and i went to
      <drawls>er</drawls> up to a regatta in auckland from HERE

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      we er left the whitianga wharf at six in the morning and we were
      anchored in at the big shoal bay in auckland and at six oclock
      that evening which is twelve hours sail er

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      was a north easterly wind so we had to beat more or <.>less</.>
      well we had to get out of the mercury bay area then er hard on
      the nose all the way up er once we got round through the roller
      patch there off the cape which is <drawls>always</drawls> an
      interesting place to go <O>inhales</O>

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      um it's <.>never</.> never a <&>11:00</&> <.>twanq</.> tranquil
      trip going round there that's for sure and then a BLAST across
      there especially when the wind picks up in <.>the</.> later on
      like on a summer's day across there and she's just <.>a</.>
      whoosh you're there before you know it you know

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      GREAT feeling

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      well here now at mercury bay of course er you've been put on the
      map a bit by the america's cup

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      yeah it's a good thing SOMEONE in this country's got enough
      money to get it going eh <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      the bloody government'd be hard pressed to find the dough

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      yeah

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      what about about the mercury bay challenge is that er something
      that you're right behind

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      <{><[>how do you feel about that</[>

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      <[>oh yeah um</[></{> well i'm right behind it in um <.>in</.>
      in my head of course but er not in the pocket <O>laughs</O>

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      they haven't got much money out of me to er prop it up that's
      for <{><[>sure</[>

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      <[>mm</[></{> it seems funny to ME perhaps as an outSIDER
      thinking of <.>the</.> <.>the</.> <.>th</.> <.>th</.> the great
      grandiose new york YACHT club

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      i think there are about three stories and flags and er <{><[>plush
      velvet</[> and HERE you haven't even got a clubrooms

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      <[><quietly>yeah</quietly></[></{>

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      yeah i don't even know what happened to that <&>12:00</&> bloody
      zephyr

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      i think the beggars sold it didn't they?

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      zephyr

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      well they had a zephyr car that was the office

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      that was the clubrooms <O>laughs</O>

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      <laughs>is that right</laughs>

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      yeah <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      no they've got no establishment whatsoever

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      <{><[>um</[> i think um probably be lucky if they even had a
      leather briefcase

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      i think you'll find it's probably all <.>the</.> the files just
      kept in an old cardboard <laughs>box</laughs> <O>laughs</O>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      so i can imagine say if <.>you</.> if you get the cup <,> no
      clubrooms

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      well i don't know what they're going to do to it er

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      would it fit in <{><[>that</[> zephyr do you reckon

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      <[>with it</[></{>

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      oh <O>laughs</O> well as i said a minute ago i don't know i
      think the zephyr's GONE <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>mm sold it for a good price</[></{>

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      YEAH <{><[>i thought</[> <.>every</.> NO everyone wanted to BUY
      it because it was the bloody america's cup HEADquarters <O>laughs</O>
      or going to be <O>laughs</O>

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      yeah <latch>

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      <[>fifty bucks</[></{>

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      it could only happen in mercury bay <latch>

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      oh i think so yeah but um oh no <.>it'll</.> it'll be
      interesting to see what happens <drawls>er</drawls>

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      there's no doubt that they've got a ninety nine percent chance
      of bringing it back <.>and</.> I feel anyway <latch>

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      you're confident are you <latch>

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      well that's <latch> <&>13:00</&>

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      that's a yachtsman's opinion? <latch>

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      that's a yachtsman opinion yeah sure <latch>

  <WSC#DGI136:0560:IJ>
      yeah <latch>

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      yeah

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      if you were trying to sum up the feeling that you get from
      yachting <.>is</.> is there a phrase

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      is there some kind of um simple way of putting it

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      yeah well i don't know really er er the thing about yachting
      that I enjoy is not just <O>inhales</O> it doesn't matter
      whether you get there at eleven oclock or half past one and er
      when you leave the wharf down here and the wife says to you you
      know when will you be back and er my <.>al</.> expression has
      always been well er look love don't watch the clock watch the
      calendar <{1><[1><O>laughs</O></[1>

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      and of course you know what <.>she</.> she's really um sort of
      goes a bit crook when i say that but er <.>she's</.> she should
      know better by now cause it's i <.>say</.> i give her the same
      answer every time i <laughs>leave there</laughs> <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>

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      <laughs>you'd think she'd wake up to it by now</laughs>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      i thought you might have taken her with you

  <WSC#DGI136:0610:BB>
      <O>laughs</O> well um er yes a funny thing about that um

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      <.>this</.> this boat we got at the moment's <&>14:00</&> a
      motor sailor and it's a bit of a compromise because um <O>inhales</O>
      er you know i like <.>the</.> well the kids are loving it and um
      but <.>sh</.> she's not really that keen on sailing <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      you know <.>she</.> she WANTS to be part of it but um <,> soon
      as er the wind starts to whistle a little bit and <.>the</.> she
      heels over a little bit more and all that sort of situation er
      leaning too much that's when you know

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      <.>i</.> i guess lots of guys have got wives like that <latch>

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      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGI136:0640:BB>
      <O>inhales</O> um start to you know digging the blimmin toenails
      into the toe rail and all that sort of thing <laughs>and start
      screaming and yelling</laughs> <O>laughs</O> and then you know
      <.>you</.> you can't help but raise your voice and tell them to
      shut up and all that sort of thing and THAT only makes things
      bloody worse <{><[><O>laughs</O> yeah</[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O> yet</[></{> yet it is <.>a</.> it is a family
      er sport <{><[>normally isn't it</[>

  <WSC#DGI136:0650:BB>
      <[>oh yeah</[></{> yeah <{><[>well</[> there's no doubt about
      that i mean er if you want to be a selfish arsehole and just
      spend the <.>r</.> the rest of your OWN life out there well
      that's okay but what happens when you come <&>15:00</&> ashore

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      mm

  <WSC#DGI136:0665:BB>
      find you're not married eh <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGI136:0670:IJ>
      well it doesn't seem to have affected you that way

  <WSC#DGI136:0675:BB>
      oh yeah there was a bit of a compromise along the way um

  <WSC#DGI136:0680:BB>
      yeah well barbara knows i enjoy it that much and um she can try
      and suppress it a LITTLE but um <.>she</.> i think she realises
      <{><[>she's</[> wasting her bloody time

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      <[>mm</[></{> <&>15:20</&> <&>end of interview</&>
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