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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:35</&>
  

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      <indig=Maori>kia ora koutou <?>ee</?></indig=Maori>

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      well i'm a dancer a choreographer and at the moment um i've been
      well lately for the last six weeks rehearsing intensively on a
      new creation called <title>i v e</title>

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      stands for <title>interiors versus exteriors</title>

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      fill you in a little bit more about that later but um yeah it's
      it's a big one for me

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      it's my <&>1:00</&> first full length work and it's been really
      full on

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      it's been in <.>my</.> in my head for about two years and <.>n</.>
      now it's finally <{><[>come out</[>

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      <[>you finally</[></{> get to work on it <{><[><drawls>oh</drawls>
      good good oh</[> sounds exciting <latch>

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      <[><drawls>yeah yeah</drawls></[></{>

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      it is <latch>

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      is it happening at taki rua <{1><[1>theatre that's that's</[1>
      isn't it <O>tut</O>

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      <{2><[2>that's <O>voc</O></[2>

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      <[1><?>it's</?> yep</[1></{1>

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      <[2>definitely</[2></{2>

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      it opens this wednesday the fourth of may runs through to the
      <.>fourtee</.> fourteenth of may and um yeah they're

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      all the performances are eight oclock at night and except for a
      sunday performance <.>s</.> which is at six oclock and there are
      two matinees on <drawls>tuesday</drawls> the tenth of may and
      thursday the twelfth of may and they're both at one oclock

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      bookings can be made <drawls>on</drawls> at at taki rua three
      eight four four five three one and give them a call and support
      our local talent here and now just a little basic run down on
      the history of <drawls>your um</drawls> how you became a a
      renowned dancer choreographer

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      you were invited to represent new zealand in the prestigious
      american dance festival

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      how was that

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      oh that was fantastic

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      it was two years ago now <&>2:00</&> in <{1><[1>er</[1> nineteen
      ninety two

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      spent six weeks <drawls>doing choreography and dancing</drawls>
      and viewing a lot of international performances <?><,></?> you
      know from out of america and from within america at duke
      university in north carolina and i was mixing with other
      international choreographers and dancers so it was just like a
      <exhales>six week</exhales> extravaganza of dance <{2><[2>you
      know</[2>

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      by the end of it you're pretty exhausted <{3><[3>but it <?><O>voc</O></?></[3>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>wow</[2></{2>

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      <[3><.>we</.> <O>voc</O></[3></{3>

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      yeah i <.>m</.> i met some amazing people and got some good
      contacts and and learnt quite a lot

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      were you the only one from wellington new zealand over in the
      <{><[>festival</[>

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      <[><O>tut</O></[></{> yeah i was <latch>

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      mhm

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      do do they have it every year or how <{><[>often do they have
      the festival</[>

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      <[>they do <.>ye</.></[></{> yeah it's it's been happening since
      about sixty four so it's something that's you know definitely
      ongoing

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      how did you get the opportunity to go over there

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      i received a scholarship to go

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      the arts council and american um embassy sent me over there <O>voc</O>
      um after my show that i did in ninety two called <title>hono tae</title>
      at taki rua so it's like <&>3:00</&> history's repeating <{><[>itself
      two years and it's</[> about the same time may again that now
      i'm um <O>tut</O> i've been away and i've i've learnt a lot of
      new techniques and especially this last um one

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      i've sent off <drawls>to</drawls> in melbourne in january for a
      choreographers' workshop between australia new zealand japanese
      choreographers

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      wow <latch>

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      to represent new zealand and i've learnt a lot more <{><[>from
      that</[>

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      <[>you've been</[></{> to germany as well haven't you <latch>

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      <O>tut</O> yeah um in ninety two i i worked in a company there
      in munich for about four months and we travelled round um <O>tut</O>
      austria and germany to er performed with a a a radical dance
      theatre company

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      they were pretty full on <{1><[1>and</[1> a lot of my influences
      in this <.>partic</.> in <title>i v e</title> have come both
      from america and germany so there's a real sense of post
      modernism german expressionism and also my own um bicultural
      maori contemporary style in there so it's quite a <.>i</.> it's
      a <{2><[2>quite a unique collaboration a blend of of styles</[2>
      and an <O>inhales</O> <latch>

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      <[1>okay</[1></{1>

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      <[2>a collaboration yeah it sounds very interesting</[2></{2>

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      hence the <{><[>title</[> <&>4:00</&>

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      <[>er</[></{> yeah hence the title <title>interiors versus
      exteriors</title>

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      it's something i was actually influenced <.>in</.> back in
      ninety two when i went to see the um <?>protskinutkin</?>
      russian architect's exhibition in may nineteen ninety two and um
      i found this quote and i'll read this to you

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      it goes <reads>since the inside is different from the outside
      the wall the point of change becomes an architectural event</reads>
      <O>tut</O> and that was from robert fenturi and that kind of got
      my <.>hea</.> mind thinking and creating about you know why you
      know <.>how</.> how does the outside world influence you
      internally and um how does your internal world influence you
      externally you know in terms of our environment where we live
      <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and um the architectural side of it really is quite dominant in
      the set because um for me i believe that the <indig=Maori>wharenui</indig=Maori>
      <O>voc</O> represents the body <?>and it <.>wou</.></?> does
      architecturally and spiritually so that's how i've managed to
      <.>br</.> draw in the my maori and <&>5:00</&> the architectural
      side into the work so <.>there</.> there're many layers in the
      work

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      it's a multi media work so <.>there</.> you know you've got the
      set you've got er a <.>multi</.> the video work which is piero
      lava who's designed um in collaboration with my sister moana <?>tawiu</?>
      gray who's also been the director

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      then you've got the music which has all been originally composed
      by michelle scullion which is a fantastic um array of strings
      and <indig=Maori>karanga</indig=Maori> which my mother has
      composed especially for <{1><[1>the work</[1>

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      yeah <laughs>it's been a real <indig=Maori>whanau</indig=Maori>
      <{2><[2><?>kind of</?></laughs> <O>inhales</O> <O>voc</O> oh
      yeah</[2>

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      <[1><drawls>wow</drawls></[1></{1>

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      <[2>it sounds like it's been a real <indig=Maori>whanau</indig=Maori>
      <?>thing</?>

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      do you</[2></{2> get a lot of <.>s</.> obviously you get a lot
      of support from your family er um your sister directing

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      <{1><[1>how is</[1> that for you

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      how <{2><[2>is that for your <.>d</.></[2>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>tut</O> oh it's been</[2></{2> really really wonderful

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      it's been like my backbone <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and that's something <.>tha</.> in in the work the <indig=Maori>tahuhu</indig=Maori>
      really stands out

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      there's one particular piece in there where <.>th</.> <O>inhales</O>
      three women are just performing with their backs to the audience
      and just the spine is <.>manipul</.> <O>voc</O> <O>voc</O> <.>the</.>
      just the way you know <&>6:00</&> you can <{1><[1>use</[1> the
      spine but <O>inhales</O> really influencing the fact that the
      spine is the ridgepole of the <indig=Maori>whare</indig=Maori>
      it's being held up by the <indig=Maori>pou tokomanawa</indig=Maori>
      and and and <.>the</.> and the poles and then on the side you've
      got <O>tut</O> the ancestors and <.>i</.> it's just <.>that</.>
      you know the whole work has just really evolved out of that you
      know <.>com</.> always coming back to the spine it's there and
      and for me it's like it gets really <.>d</.> even deeper than
      that with <?><&>sniffle</&></?> things like um d n a and and the
      our <indig=Maori>whakapapa</indig=Maori> <{2><[2>coming back</[2>
      and generations and things like that so there's it's almost
      worth i <.>don't</.> you know here <?>i am i'm</?> selling the
      show in a sense but for me i feel like if anyone wants to really
      get a lot out of it it would probably be worth going to see a
      couple of <{3><[3>times</[3> because you know first of all it
      would just be this visual thing <{4><[4>that's</[4> gonna hit
      you that um you know <.>to</.> to really get a sense of what <.>i've</.>
      what i'm going on about it really would probably need a couple
      of viewings i <?><.>th</.></?> imagine

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <[3><?>yeah</?></[3></{3>

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      <[4>mm</[4></{4>

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      it sounds as though <O>voc</O> it's taken a a while and it
      sounds like it's a great big <{1><[1>relief</[1>

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      two years <{2><[2>is a long time</[2> to <&>7:00</&> have <{3><[3>all
      this thought and ideas</[3> inside your mind and how how does
      one go about taking it from your <{4><[4>mind and making it
      reality</[4>

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      how do you do that <latch>

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      <[1><O>tut</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><&>sighs</&></[2></{2>

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      <[3><O>tut</O> yes yeah yeah yeah</[3></{3>

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      <[4>mm mm <O>tut</O></[4></{4>

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      well i start by writing about it <{1><[1>and <drawls>often</drawls></[1>
      i know i'll wake up in the middle of the night and i've had a
      dream or something like that a lot of it has come through dreams
      and i'll write in my journal my creative journal and then once i
      start formulating my ideas i then i just kind of it's like
      writing an essay in a sense like okay all these parts um <.>ps</.>
      you know i can put in this section here this section here and
      then when i came to apply for my money from the arts council i
      actually did a storyboard sort of like you know as if i was
      gonna present <.>it</.> you know this as a film or something
      like that and each section i've um clearly marked out how many
      dancers and what what that section's <{2><[2>called</[2> and so
      for me <O>tut</O> it's it's been like my my structure to go
      because basically even though i've got a structure of what what
      i <&>8:00</&> want the work to look like the movement and all
      that sort of thing is wasn't there to begin with

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      it was something that we workshopped and we workshopped <.>in</.>
      <.>th</.> best place <.>o</.> out at taputeranga <{3><[3>bruce
      stewart's</[3> <indig=Maori>marae</indig=Maori> in island bay
      and um we <.>y</.> we used one of his <indig=Maori>whares</indig=Maori>
      ukaipo and it was just <.>a</.> <drawls>amazing</drawls>
      environment to be in you know because <.>w</.> it's all women in
      the work so <.>lo</.> lots of things came out lots of personal
      things because this work i've drawn on a lot um about the
      dancers' personal lives <{4><[4>because</[4> it's it's that
      nature of the work and and without the dancers this work
      wouldn't be you know where it is now

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      i've really <laughs>got amazing people working for me</laughs>

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      um their names lynne pringle who's one of the most <?><.>es</.></?>
      um <O>swallows</O> well she's been around a very long time in
      the contemporary <{5><[5>dance world <drawls>yeah</drawls></[5>
      yeah helen winchester who's from the commotion michael
      parmenter's commotion company sally stopforth very well known
      round wellington and jenny mcarthur who's er just graduated from
      the new zealand school <&>9:00</&> of dance but has a wonderful
      career ahead of her as both a choreographer and dancer so it's a
      but like i've been working with these strong women who are very
      independent and um they've brought so much to this work

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      it's just it's gone further much further than i'd ever imagined
      you know it to be when i first um had my initial ideas about
      <{6><[6>it</[6> and it also has room to improve as well

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      it's kind of like six weeks after two years of thinking of
      something and creating <,> and then suddenly having six weeks to
      get it all out it's just not enough time <latch>

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      <[1>okay</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <[3>oh wow</[3></{3>

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      <[4>mm</[4></{4>

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      <[5>yeah she has a good reputation</[5></{5>

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      <[6><?><O>laughs</O></?></[6></{6>

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      mm <latch>

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      but i feel like i've got it to a point where yeah <?>yeah</?>
      it's it's ready to be um for an audience to now come and see it
      <{1><[1>but</[1> i think this this particular work has a long
      life to it and there's plenty of room for improvement
      development in all areas in the music and the and the video

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      <[1>view it</[1></{1>

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      are you happy with what's um what you've come up <{><[>with and
      what's happening at the moment</[>

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      <[><O>tut</O> i'm really happy i'm really</[></{> really really
      <laughs>happy i'm</laughs> <latch>

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      oh that's <.>goo</.> now tell me about <.>the</.> who who
      designed the set <latch> <&>10:00</&>

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      matu booth and he's a an artist

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      um he's <O>voc</O> designed for sally stopforth and er lynne
      pringle for both their shows but he's very er well known for er
      mobile sets and things like that and and er mobile structures
      <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      and he what he's come up with <laughs>for me is just incredible</laughs>

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      he's <.>g</.> he's <{1><[1>got</[1> this um him and geoff
      thompson and other artists round wellington have created this
      the apex of the <indig=Maori>whare</indig=Maori> as <?>if <.>as</.></?>
      you know when the arms <{2><[2>and</[2> and it's a kind of an
      abstract one it's made out of corrugated iron and it's just <&>sighs</&>
      you walk in there and this hits you and it's like wow <O>laughs</O>

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      it just gives that sense of industrial <latch>

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      <[1><?>mm</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mhm</[2></{2>

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      mm <latch>

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      plus <.>the</.> <.>the</.> my whole heritage and it there's a
      real blend of <latch>

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      so there's a <{><[>sense of <indig=Maori>wairua</indig=Maori></[>
      there <latch>

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      <[>old and new</[></{>

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      <indig=Maori>ae</indig=Maori> <{1><[1>oh</[1> definitely and in
      the music <{2><[2>as</[2> well

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      michelle scullion has really managed to capture some beautiful
      moments

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      she's she's a very spiritual woman and she's and her and i have
      really clicked together on this one and <&>11:00</&> yeah her
      music's brought my dance and the dance has brought the music to
      a much higher level yeah <latch>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      well it sounds as though it's gonna be a great show <latch>

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      oh i'm really really excited eh

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      i mean i almost feel like i wish i was on the outside <{><[>because
      it's</[> been quite difficult being the choreographer and then
      <.>s</.> and i'm also performing in it

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      all of a sudden i've had to give over that <latch>

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      <[><?>mm</?></[></{>

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      mm <latch>

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      outside eye <{><[>and you</[> know <latch>

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      <[>have <.>you</.></[></{>

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      have any of the other <.>d</.> other dancers contributed to
      <latch>

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      oh <{1><[1>definitely</[1> definitely because through the
      workshop um the first week that's when i was like drawing
      material out of people and yeah it's definitely a collaboration
      between myself and the dancers but when it comes down to the
      final decision it's it's up to <{2><[2>me</[2> and it's that's
      been the really really hard part because that's that's what
      choreography's all about

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      <{3><[3>it's about</[3> choice of action so like with writing or
      anything like that you know it's you could use this you could
      use that but what's gonna be the best and you have to you know
      try out all your <{4><[4>options</[4> and then <,> go <{5><[5>with</[5>

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      <[1>the works</[1></{1>

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      <[2>right</[2></{2>

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      <[3>mhm</[3></{3>

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      <[4>mm</[4></{4>

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      <[5>and</[5></{5> make a choice <latch>

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      yeah <{1><[1>and</[1> often it's the gut <laughs>decision <{2><[2>you
      know</laughs> <with silly voice>it's the</[2> instinctual one</with silly voice>
      <{3><[3><O>laughs</O></[3>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1> <&>12:00</&>

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      <[2>right <O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      <[3>right okay</[3></{3> <&>tape may cut out here before IA
      wrapped up</&>

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      happening at taki rua theatre from the fourth of may to the
      fourteenth <title>i v e interior versus exterior</title>

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      got to see it

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      it's a must

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      you've listened to the <indig=Maori>korero</indig=Maori>

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      definitely go and see it

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      we're supporting te upoko o te ika are supporting <title>i v e</title>
      and merenia and good luck for the shows and no doubt they'll be
      packed

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      opening night happening this wednesday

  <WSC#DGI149:0685:IA>
      a must

  <WSC#DGI149:0690:IA>
      thank you very much <{><[>for coming in and <indig=Maori>kia ora</indig=Maori>
      <indig=Maori>ki a koe</indig=Maori></[> and this is alex spooner
      saying <indig=Maori>hei konei hei kona</indig=Maori>
      <&>12:30</&> <&>end of sample</&>

  <WSC#DGI149:0695:MG>
      <[><indig=Maori>kia ora</indig=Maori> alex yeah yeah</[></{>
</I>
