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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side two</&>
  <&>21:50</&>
  

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      mister speaker

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      katherine oregan <latch>

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      thank you mister speaker

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      what a pathetic speech from the minister absolutely pathetic

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      you ought to be reminded and perhaps the rest of new zealand
      should know that this member worked for the ministry of
      <&>22:00</&> works when the dam was built and now he's one of
      those junior ministers one of two junior ministers who's going
      to go and look at er look to see what's happened in the past

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      well for my for my view mister speaker raking over old coals
      does no good at all especially especially when families are
      struggling when children are falling by the wayside health
      services are in a parlous <{1><[1>state</[1> and a hundred and
      forty seven thousand people are unemployed and they're gonna
      rake up over old coals cos they can't find anything else that's
      of use to them at the present time

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      mister speaker this country is in crisis in confidence in our
      social services

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      there is extreme concern at the disintegration of our social
      fabric

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      the people have lost faith in their social services and they are
      discouraged to actually even approach anybody

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      these have been caused mister speaker <&>23:00</&> by the
      economic problems and unemployment

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      one hundred and forty seven thousand people

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      these are the main causes of social dislocation and all this
      government wants to do is rake over old coals about a dam

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      mister speaker the second reason why this country is at we're
      having a crisis in confidence in our social services is because
      families are left not knowing where to turn for help and that is
      a dreadful thing

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      and the minister of police should really be worried about these
      things but i don't really think he is

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      he's much rather er badmouth the police and badmouth other
      people the worrying about the families of his his own electorate
      and probably a lot of his people are unemployed in his
      electorate as well

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      mister speaker the third thing is that labour ministers stand
      aside as services fall over and i think that is an appalling
      indictment on this government particularly when there is a
      crisis <&>24:00</&> in confidence in our social services

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      the people have lost faith mister speaker in what in their er in
      their services these days in the area of health in education and
      certainly in the area of welfare

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      mister speaker every day we get reports of er <O>voc</O> er
      breakdown in the strands of society's fabric

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      this relates mostly of course mister speaker to unemployment
      homelessness inadequate education child abuse battered wives
      sexual offences drunken drivers thieves social welfare
      opportunists and many others mister speaker

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      and those are the issues that concern most people and this
      government refuses to even face them

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      the minister of social welfare who of course in his maiden
      speech suggested that he was proud of the fact that he had a
      secondary education er paid for by the farmers of canterbury and
      hawke's bay

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      and then he went on to say <quotes>i ripped <&>25:00</&> them
      off for five years and i shall get stuck into them again in the
      next few years</quotes>

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      so that was the minister of social welfare so no doubt

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      that showed up in a in a a press release recently

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      and mister speaker he should be looking at areas of of er need
      in his own department when in fact he spends twelve thousand
      dollars twelve thousand dollars sending out sending out a thing
      called a social welfare update

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      er this is for three months speeches and press statements by the
      minister of social welfare and the cost of those six hundred and
      eighty six copies was eleven thousand nine hundred and ninety
      nine dollars and forty four cents

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      twelve thousand dollars of taxpayers' money surely that could
      have been used in a far more in a far better fashion

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      mister speaker we are concerned on this side of the crisis in
      confidence in our social welfare services

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      mister speaker i am terribly concerned in particular in the area
      of er <&>26:00</&> intellectually handicapped children and
      certainly adults perhaps more and those who are in the
      psychiatric service who are now currently being put into the
      community

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      according to deinstitutionalisation theories

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      wonderful word that wonderful word

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      now it would be all right it would be all right if there were
      some places for them to go

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      and in some board areas they are actually doing quite well my
      own board area isn't doing too badly mister speaker

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      but they're a pretty forward thinking lot

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      but unfortunately mister speaker funding is the problem

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      funding is the problem

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      people find it very difficult to even have any confidence any
      more in our accident and emergency services

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      they don't know whether they should actually go to a hospital
      now because they're not sure whether they're going to be
      received

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      and this is the lack of confidence that people have they've lost
      faith in the system

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      they've lost faith in the system

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      but those people who are intellectually handicapped or those who
      are who <&>27:00</&> have er psychiatric illnesses longterm
      who's going to really care for them mister speaker

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      in my area they are currently closing probably going to close er
      the psychiatric unit

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      now these people are going to go out go back to their home areas
      say gisborne for example

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      there is no psychiatrist in gisborne

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      he or she has just left for further fields and greener fields
      and there is noone there to look after these people when they
      return

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      now mister speaker what happens to them

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      do they end up on the streets like they do in the rest of the
      world

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      this country <O>voc</O> always prided itself on having a fine
      welfare system a fine health system but this labour government
      has managed to blow the lot absolutely blow the lot

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      and in fact it is an absolute indictment on them mister speaker

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      the minister of social welfare should be ashamed that he's er
      overseeing er a situation like it is at the present time

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      we <&>28:00</&> have a crisis in confidence in our social
      services

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      and mister speaker it's caused by unemployment and the economic
      er policies of this government

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      there are waiting lists sixty thousand people on waiting lists
      and sixty thousand people the member asked how many sixty
      thousand people

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      mister speaker people out there are extremely angry

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      they are frustrated

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      they are exasperated and they feel that there is nothing left
      for them at all

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      thanks to this government they have not only lost confidence in
      them as a government in being able to er er create an
      environment for businesses to actually survive they have now
      created a <.>s</.> a society and a and an area an era when
      people have lost confidence in the social services as well

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      now the minister for health suggested that er she was <O>voc</O>
      had terrible <&>29:00</&> concerns in her maiden speech for
      those who were sick and suffering

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      well i wish she'd take a look and speak to some of her board
      people and some of the people on the ground in the health area
      she might find that in fact her policies have done all those
      things which she didn't really wish to happen

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      but mister speaker people are have lost faith in the government
      at the present time and it is a sad state of affairs

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      mister speaker they expect the voluntary sector to take all this
      up

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      but mister speaker the voluntary sector are usually women and
      they are going back to work because they can't afford

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      they've got to have two pay packets in the household these days

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      and so women are going back to work

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      we find that we haven't the volunteers any more and so where are
      all these people on community care going to go

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      take the the er the prisoners coming out of prison

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      where's the pas and the rest of them

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      mister speaker those voluntary workers are not <&>30:00</&>
      there any more and it is a certainly an indictment on this
      government

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      mister speaker look at education as well

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      how many young women are going to be disadvantaged by this
      government's <.>acti</.> activities

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      and now they're going to charge for correspondence courses as
      well

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      mister speaker this government has a lot to answer for

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      and it's time they <.>t</.> were taken to account and people
      cannot wait cannot wait until october to throw them out where
      they should belong back over on this side of the house mister
      speaker

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      in the area of health again mister speaker the government has
      prevented cervical screening programmes

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      but however <O>clears throat</O> that was bungled from the very
      beginning and i'm still not sure whether it's actually achieving
      anything

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      and i think it's time that perhaps they asked themselves some
      questions also on this area

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      mammography screening

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      cancer cancer of the <&>31:00</&> breast kills more women than
      <.>cer</.> cervical cancer but they've done nothing absolutely
      nothing in this area

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      i'd like to hear member can stand up on his feet and tell us
      this

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      mister speaker maternity care

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      they have taken <.>o</.> they have taken up the philosophy of
      pushing women out early after birthing

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      <{2><[2>mister</[2> speaker that is an absolute i think that is
      a an absolute crime because what is happening is that women are
      going home early

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      we're finding that there's a <.>c</.> a confidence er loss if
      you like er at that time when women who are under plunket <.>nur</.>
      services are finding those services <.>cutting</.> being cut
      away

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      the government still hasn't funded the plunket society with an
      extra two million dollars which would certainly help them
      service <.>b</.> serve those women who need that care

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      but mister speaker the thing is that there is crisis in
      confidence in our social services

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      <.>there</.> they are caused by economic <&>32:00</&> problems
      by unemployment which is the main cause in our view of the
      social dislocation

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      families are left not knowing where to turn for help and labour
      ministers just stand aside as services fall over

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      and we on this side of the house think that is an appalling
      state of affairs and it's time they addressed those issues
      instead of raking up old coals about dams

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      they want to get on and look at their social policy

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      what about the royal commission

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      no we're not even going to look at that

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      five million dollars just tossed away just tossed away used as a
      doorstop by i think by the member for palmerston north

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      mister speaker it is time this government actually addressed
      those issues

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      we have a crisis in confidence in our welfare system and it is
      time the government took its head out of underneath the sheets
      and had a look to see what was really happening

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      that the minister of social welfare got out and actually talked
      to people in the street talked to some street kids go out and
      <&>33:00</&> see what's happening in the community

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      and the minister for health ought to speak to the pharmacists
      and certainly to the board of health <.>peo</.> to the area
      health board er managers and others

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      mister speaker this government is a sham

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      <[1>order</[1></{1>

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      <[2>order</[2></{2>

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      mister speaker

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      the honorable richard prebble

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      yeah the mister speaker

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      it ill behoves the member for waipa to get up and shed crocodile
      tears

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      and to say to the country as i heard her i took it down <.>th</.>
      that this government was responsible for er breakups of families

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      and i do not accept that that is a charge that she can place
      against us mister speaker

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      but the but the member then went on to proceed er to do a wallow
      through the various social er spending programmes and to suggest
      to the house that a national government er would spend more
      which of course contrasts totally contrasts totally <&>34:00</&>
      with the member for selwyn who has us believe that a national
      government would somehow er spend less

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      and indeed the member the member failed to give us a single
      policy suggestion of what a national government would do

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      but what she did say was that the social policies of this
      government had failed

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      and she followed the er member for ashburton the member who
      started off her speech by saying that she was inexperienced

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      and that member made her attack on the children's and young
      person's and their families er act <&>34:38</&> <&>side two ends</&>
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