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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

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      something which includes consideration of victims <,> and we
      have already introduced a labour's victims of offences act

  <WSC#DGU011:0010:BD>
      a review of the bail law is on this year's legislative agenda
      and victims are in fact considered when dealt with when the
      offenders are dealt with by the court

  <WSC#DGU011:0015:BD>
      the longterm strategies proposed by the member for rotorua
      include parental responsibility and the question that must be
      asked mister speaker are who's to judge the parent's neglected
      responsibility

  <WSC#DGU011:0020:BD>
      who is to say whether or not it is the parent that is
      responsible or whether it is the wayward child <&>1:00</&>

  <WSC#DGU011:0025:BD>
      where is where is this to be <,> policed

  <WSC#DGU011:0030:BD>
      HOW is it to be policed

  <WSC#DGU011:0035:BD>
      are there to be state agents set up

  <WSC#DGU011:0040:BD>
      is there to be a thought police set up

  <WSC#DGU011:0045:BD>
      such infringement on the privacy of the family and their home
      will not wash <,> with most people and certainly it will not
      wash with new zealanders

  <WSC#DGU011:0050:BD>
      further mister speaker we then have the suggestion that
      education in the prisons something which already this party is
      doing will be part of the national policy

  <WSC#DGU011:0055:BD>
      but i turn more especially mister speaker er to the member for
      whangarei

  <WSC#DGU011:0060:BD>
      this is the member who broke rank with his own leader er last
      week er when he suggested an <.>a</.> a continuation of the
      industrial strife by <&>2:00</&> the prison officers

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      mister speaker that demonstrates clearly to this country that
      the leader of the opposition is not able to control and to
      discipline his own members

  <WSC#DGU011:0070:BD>
      it should have been important for him to have said that that is
      not on and to have dealt with the member for whangarei

  <WSC#DGU011:0075:BD>
      but no it was not done

  <WSC#DGU011:0080:BD>
      the member for whangarei has still in his mind the belief that
      the industrial strife that the police were supporting that the
      prison officers were carrying out was the right and correct
      thing

  <WSC#DGU011:0085:BD>
      there has been no retraction no no chance of taking that back no
      <,> answer to his own leader saying you're wrong

  <WSC#DGU011:0090:BD>
      his answer has been you're wrong i'm right

  <WSC#DGU011:0095:BD>
      mister speaker i believe that that <&>3:00</&> demonstrates once
      and for all that the leader of the opposition is not in a
      position to lead this country when he can't discipline his own
      member for whangarei

  <WSC#DGU011:0100:BD>
      now mister speaker the member for whangarei is famous for his
      various forays into the field of law and order such thing as
      wanting to arm the police that which the police commissioner
      himself has decried and turned down and has said no to

  <WSC#DGU011:0105:SJ>
      hey order <latch>

  <WSC#DGU011:0110:BD>
      something which his own his own colleague the member for hobson
      has said the police do not need to be armed <,,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0115:BD>
      the next one is his attacks on the courts

  <WSC#DGU011:0120:BD>
      he has complained that the courts are being soft

  <WSC#DGU011:0125:BD>
      they are not handing out the sentences that <&>4:00</&> they
      should and he again says yes that is correct

  <WSC#DGU011:0130:BD>
      the fact has been that there is a division a separation of
      powers thank goodness between the legislative and the judiciary
      and that must remain

  <WSC#DGU011:0135:BD>
      the last country the last country where that became a great
      issue was queensland queensland where the incoming leader of the
      government was asked did he believe in the separation of powers
      flubbed the question flubbed the answer was unable to <,>
      acknowledge that there should be a separation of powers and he
      went down to a crushing defeat in the election not so long ago

  <WSC#DGU011:0140:BD>
      mister speaker that is important that there be a separation of
      powers that the legislative and the judicial <&>5:00</&> arms
      should remain separated and distant from each other

  <WSC#DGU011:0145:BD>
      it is not appropriate that members of this house attack
      particularly when it is the nature of a personal attack on
      members of the judiciary

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      there can be there can be a reference to the adequacy of the
      sentence and that has that has been accepted and that is
      accepted by the courts

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      but there there is an appropriate way of that being dealt with
      either by appeals to an upper court or appeals by the solicitor
      general

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      those have been dealt with

  <WSC#DGU011:0165:BD>
      that is the way to deal with it

  <WSC#DGU011:0170:BD>
      there have been today the announcements made on those <.>wh</.>
      serious white collar crimes where there has been an increase in
      the penalty from eighteen months imprisonment to four years

  <WSC#DGU011:0175:BD>
      now that is that is the apPROpriate way <.>an</.>

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      but what do we here from the member for <&>6:00</&> whangarei

  <WSC#DGU011:0185:BD>
      he's going to continue his attacks

  <WSC#DGU011:0190:BD>
      perhaps it might be appropriate that he should that he should
      acknowledge that the court of appeal that the court of appeal
      has done the right thing by increasing that penalty to four
      years

  <WSC#DGU011:0195:BD>
      just something POSitive might in fact be an appropriate response
      from the minister er for whangarei <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0200:BD>
      mister speaker mister speaker the <{><[>member for hobson</[>

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      <[>the member's er</[></{> order

  <WSC#DGU011:0210:SJ>
      the member's time has expired

  <WSC#DGU011:0215:PE>
      point of order mister speaker point of order

  <WSC#DGU011:0220:SJ>
      yeah point of order paul east

  <WSC#DGU011:0225:PE>
      point of order mister speaker

  <WSC#DGU011:0230:PE>
      we now have our next er opposition speaker from this side of the
      debate ready to take the call

  <WSC#DGU011:0235:PE>
      so i just wanted to get that absolutely clarified of course he
      is <{><[><.>re</.> restrained by his crutches</[>

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      <[>yes well that er</[></{> that's not a point of order <latch>

  <WSC#DGU011:0245:PE>
      well i wanted to make sure

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      not a point of order john banks

  <WSC#DGU011:0255:JB>
      thank you

  <WSC#DGU011:0260:JB>
      mister speaker i want to tell this government that i caught a
      taxi at the <&>7:00</&> wellington airport the other day and i
      was picked up by a maori man <,,> good wholesome kiwi taxi
      driver he didn't say much until we got to the freyberg pool when
      he said you know something mister banks <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0265:JB>
      it doesn't matter what this government does or what this
      government says

  <WSC#DGU011:0270:JB>
      the peoples don't want them no more <,> quote unquote the people
      don't want this government no more and tony steel the national
      party candidate in the east hamilton seat the former all black
      the eminent high school principal sir the outstanding individual
      from that city hamilton will take that man's seat

  <WSC#DGU011:0275:JB>
      he'll be here and peter hilt peter hilt <&>8:00</&> he
      outstanding businessman sir former police officer a great man
      absolutely committed absolutely working every hour of his waking
      day to railroad the member for glenfield right out of her seat
      right out of her seat

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      and ian revell sir another outstanding aucklander selected on
      monday night to take the burke out of birkenhead

  <WSC#DGU011:0285:JB>
      and she's gone and she's gone and the birkenhead member has gone
      because the polls in birkenhead tell us that we are twenty one
      points ahead twenty one points ahead

  <WSC#DGU011:0290:JB>
      so birkenhead is back school teaching glenfield is back school
      teaching and my old friend from <&>9:00</&> hamilton east sir is
      back looking for a job at the law

  <WSC#DGU011:0295:JB>
      and he's welcome to it because we're going to get strong people
      true new zealanders tough new zealanders principled aucklanders
      in the seat for glenfield and in the seat for birkenhead

  <WSC#DGU011:0300:JB>
      and sir the sunday newspaper said it <drawls>all</drawls> on
      sunday last

  <WSC#DGU011:0305:JB>
      <reads>it is hard to tell whether the country's being run by a
      government or a cash and carry outfit</reads> a cash and
      <laughs>carry outfit</laughs>

  <WSC#DGU011:0310:JB>
      the <drawls>mad</drawls> panic over selling telecom and state
      insurance is getting so undignified the government may well
      borrow deka's red tag sales banners and slap them around the
      place

  <WSC#DGU011:0315:JB>
      hurry get your state assets now

  <WSC#DGU011:0320:JB>
      knock down prices

  <WSC#DGU011:0325:JB>
      all stocks must go <&>10:00</&> before the end of the financial
      year

  <WSC#DGU011:0330:JB>
      a real budget buster

  <WSC#DGU011:0335:JB>
      the latest burst of selling the family silver could be unkindly
      described as the government's closing down sale

  <WSC#DGU011:0340:JB>
      this government is in the process of closing down and my friend
      the eminent barrister from rotorua tells this parliament and the
      people that under the polls at the moment who will we have <,>
      the four useless members for the maori seats the member for
      <laughs>auckland central</laughs> and the member for for mangere

  <WSC#DGU011:0345:JB>
      that's all they'll have six in the house

  <WSC#DGU011:0350:JB>
      six in the house sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0355:JB>
      we are going to decimate this people because this government is
      <drawls>evil</drawls>

  <WSC#DGU011:0360:JB>
      this government is <drawls>evil</drawls>

  <WSC#DGU011:0365:JB>
      this is the government that legalises sodomy for sixteen
      <&>11:00</&> year olds and wants to ban tobacco advertising
      cause it's bad for your health

  <WSC#DGU011:0370:JB>
      cause it's bad for your health oh my god

  <WSC#DGU011:0375:JB>
      sir the first responsibility of any government is the security
      of its citizens and we've learnt today from <.>th</.> from
      general mace new zealand's most senior military officer and he
      admitted sir to mister andrew stone a foremost journalist from
      the herald that <reads>morale problems inside the army are a
      certain threat to this country</reads>

  <WSC#DGU011:0380:JB>
      the chief of defence staff lieutenant general john mace has laid
      out his concerns in the ministry of defence report for the six
      months to december the thirty first

  <WSC#DGU011:0385:JB>
      this is in the auckland herald this morning <&>12:00</&> <reads>in
      a candid passage for a serving officer general mace says the
      level of operational readiness within new zealand land forces is
      satisfactory for very low levels response to short duration
      activities</reads>

  <WSC#DGU011:0390:JB>
      no security

  <WSC#DGU011:0395:JB>
      no national defence

  <WSC#DGU011:0400:JB>
      no security on the streets

  <WSC#DGU011:0405:JB>
      people are terrified in their homes at night and feel the need
      to barricade them and are frightened to walk the streets by day
      because the criminals have hijacked the streets of metropolitan
      new zealand sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0410:JB>
      this is a government that is bankrupt

  <WSC#DGU011:0415:JB>
      this is a government that's sending it's sending its marginal
      seat members and the member for papatoetoe he's gone because
      alan brewster the former mayor of <{><[>papatoetoe is</[> some
      twenty points ahead <latch>

  <WSC#DGU011:0420:SJ>
      <[>order order</[></{>

  <WSC#DGU011:0425:SJ>
      order <latch> <&>13:00</&>

  <WSC#DGU011:0430:JB>
      some twenty points ahead and he can shout because he's only
      spoken in this parliament for less than ten minutes in the last
      six months

  <WSC#DGU011:0435:JB>
      he doesn't speak in parliament he moves notices of motions to
      close down debates

  <WSC#DGU011:0440:JB>
      but he doesn't get an opportunity to speak

  <WSC#DGU011:0445:JB>
      i want the member for birkenhead to tell the people of
      birkenhead how many times she has spoken in parliament in the
      last twelve months because i'll tell the people because she has
      spoken four times including two closures

  <WSC#DGU011:0450:JB>
      how many times has the member for glenfield spoken in the house
      she's spoken in the house sixty five times <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0455:JB>
      because she's moved sixty four closure motions <,,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0460:JB>
      that's her contribution to this parliament sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0465:JB>
      that's her contribution

  <WSC#DGU011:0470:JB>
      and she is photographed in the north shore times advertiser
      before the <&>14:00</&> nineteen eighty four election saying to
      a mister and missus <?>kaipis</?> of glenfield <,,> the next
      labour government will not interfere with your superannuation
      within six weeks of arriving here in the house the member for
      glenfield was lobby fodder moving that pernicious surcharge on
      the elderly of this country sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0475:JB>
      the police cannot cope

  <WSC#DGU011:0480:JB>
      the defence cannot cope <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0485:JB>
      every community centre has been punished <,> and or viciously
      assaulted and attacked by this government sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0490:JB>
      the elderly have been attacked with the surcharge

  <WSC#DGU011:0495:JB>
      the war veterans have been attacked by lowering their pension

  <WSC#DGU011:0500:JB>
      the sick have been attacked because they can't get lifesaving
      drugs

  <WSC#DGU011:0505:JB>
      farmers have been attacked the <&>15:00</&> backbone of the
      country

  <WSC#DGU011:0510:JB>
      schoolteachers have been attacked

  <WSC#DGU011:0515:JB>
      nurses have been verbally assaulted by various cabinet ministers
      the prime minister and this government

  <WSC#DGU011:0520:JB>
      doctors

  <WSC#DGU011:0525:JB>
      the police were told in this parliament two saturdays ago that
      they were nothing but cheats and liars <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0530:JB>
      an outrageous statement made by the minister of police about the
      best police force in the world at a time when politicians are
      respected by no more than four percent of this public because
      politicians cheat too much

  <WSC#DGU011:0535:JB>
      politicians tell lies too much

  <WSC#DGU011:0540:JB>
      they deceive too many people sir and they are a dishonest breed
      of animal in this country today and honesty and politics will be
      a major issue at the next election <,>

  <WSC#DGU011:0545:JB>
      because sir if there was a poll for honesty

  <WSC#DGU011:0550:JB>
      if there was a poll <&>16:00</&> for decency

  <WSC#DGU011:0555:JB>
      if there was a poll for integrity if there was a poll for
      sincerity james bolger from the te kuiti electorate sir of the
      king country and the next prime minister would be tops

  <WSC#DGU011:0560:JB>
      he's never cheated anyone

  <WSC#DGU011:0565:JB>
      he doesn't tell lies

  <WSC#DGU011:0570:JB>
      he only has one wife sir and he's a true family man that we can
      be proud of sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0575:JB>
      and he will never he will never be given the companion of honour
      for abandoning his wife and kids because his nature sir is that
      <.>e</.> he it truly is a decent new zealander

  <WSC#DGU011:0580:JB>
      sir this is the most nasty

  <WSC#DGU011:0585:JB>
      this is the most vindictive

  <WSC#DGU011:0590:JB>
      this is the most conceited this is the most arrogant pack of
      political heathens ever voted into office in the western
      <&>17:00</&> world sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0595:JB>
      it is a thoroughly thoroughly bad government and i say take the
      country out of its misery

  <WSC#DGU011:0600:JB>
      call an election

  <WSC#DGU011:0605:JB>
      go

  <WSC#DGU011:0610:JB>
      go back to the law practices

  <WSC#DGU011:0615:JB>
      go back to the classroom

  <WSC#DGU011:0620:JB>
      go back to the farm

  <WSC#DGU011:0625:JB>
      go anywhere but go from parliament sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0630:JB>
      this government is <drawls>bad</drawls>

  <WSC#DGU011:0635:JB>
      this government is evil evil sir and this government is going to
      get the message on election day because they are fighting for
      third place with the don't knows don't cares and totally
      depressed people of this country sir

  <WSC#DGU011:0640:JB>
      we have seen useless representation by members of the back bench
      like the member for birkenhead who's spoke in this house no more
      than two times in the last <&>18:00</&> six months like the
      member for glenfield whose only contribution sir is constant
      interjections and i say that ian revell is going to relieve you
      of your misery birkenhead and peter hilt will take out the seat
      of <{><[>glenfield</[>

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      <[>the</[></{> honourable bevan butcher <&>18:19</&>
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