<I>

  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side two</&>
  <&>7:33</&>
  

  <WSC#DGZ052:0005:CL>
      did you travel round the states afterwards <{><[>or did you just
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0010:SA>
      <[><O>tut</O> <O>inhales</O> during that year?</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0015:SA>
      no i did travel <quietly>when i was <{><[>there</quietly></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0020:CL>
      <[>what</[></{> sort <.>of</.> like i'm thinking of either
      getting a DELTA pass which <.>is</.> i think it's three ninety
      <.>nine</.> which means you can <{><[>travel on <.>that</.></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0025:SA>
      <[>what a standby</[></{> pass <{><[><.>or</.> <,> mhm</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0030:CL>
      <[>YEAH travel</[></{> around on that

  <WSC#DGZ052:0035:CL>
      but the thing is the ticket that i'm thinking of getting is a
      <.>one</.> no return to london <.>i</.> with four stops

  <WSC#DGZ052:0040:SA>
      <O>tut</O> right <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0045:CL>
      <[>stopovers</[></{> in AMERICA

  <WSC#DGZ052:0050:SA>
      mhm <O>tut</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0055:CL>
      but the thing i'm having trouble with is because i haven't BEEN
      there i don't <&>8:00</&> know what <.>stopovers</.> like i know
      two definite that i NEED to do on the way there but on the way
      back i'm not <.>sh</.> <.>s</.> cos i was sort of thinking i'll
      probably meet some people and i'll <,> go and visit THEM on the
      <{><[>way back</[> OR i'll get a DELTA pass and not worry about
      the stopovers cos i don't know WHERE i <.>want</.> cos i don't
      know ANYTHING about the states

  <WSC#DGZ052:0060:CL>
      i don't know where i want to go or ANYthing <.>so</.> <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0065:SA>
      <[>okay</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0070:SA>
      well <.>you're</.> <?>lets</?> recap a bit

  <WSC#DGZ052:0075:SA>
      you've got six weeks on the course

  <WSC#DGZ052:0080:CL>
      NINE weeks

  <WSC#DGZ052:0085:SA>
      nine weeks

  <WSC#DGZ052:0090:SA>
      okay so you've got nine weeks there

  <WSC#DGZ052:0095:SA>
      <O>inhales</O> when you go to the u k or europe are you then
      going one way and staying there or are you eventually <?>coming</?>
      back to <{><[>new zealand</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0100:CL>
      <[>no well</[></{> i've <.>bought</.> <&>pronounced brought</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0105:CL>
      the thing is i'm going to see what the job situation is like in
      england <O>inhales</O> and if i can get a job <.>or</.> and
      things like that then i'll stay and i'll just <O>voc</O> <,>
      forget <.>about</.> you know count my losses for the <{><[>return
      ticket</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0110:SA>
      <[>okay</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0115:SA>
      are you under age <O>voc</O> twenty seven

  <WSC#DGZ052:0120:CL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ052:0125:SA>
      okay <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0130:SA>
      DON'T buy a return ticket <O>tut</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0135:SA>
      buy a one way ticket

  <WSC#DGZ052:0140:CL>
      <quietly>mm</quietly> <&>9:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0145:SA>
      work on the basis that um <O>tut</O> you leave <?><.>b</.></?>
      er behind in new zealand sufficient funds to cover the return
      one way fare

  <WSC#DGZ052:0150:CL>
      right

  <WSC#DGZ052:0155:SA>
      <O>inhales</O> keep a copy of your <.>ticket</.> leave a
      photocopy of your ticket that you <.>su</.> buy on your one way

  <WSC#DGZ052:0160:SA>
      it will ONLY cost around two hundred dollars more to buy another
      one way ticket to come home than if you'd bought a round <{><[>trip
      ticket</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0165:CL>
      <[>right</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0170:CL>
      the THING IS that also you need to have two thousand pounds to
      get into england and <{><[>i</[> DON'T have <,> that much

  <WSC#DGZ052:0175:CL>
      it depends if i can get my visa limit increased

  <WSC#DGZ052:0180:SA>
      <[>sure</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0185:SA>
      <O>tut</O> <{><[><.>that</.> <.>that</.></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0190:CL>
      <[>for available</[></{> credit but i <.>don't</.> i don't think
      i've got ENOUGH to <.>actually</.> <,> actually get IN

  <WSC#DGZ052:0195:CL>
      that's why i sort of bought a return ticket <{><[><,> for safety</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0200:SA>
      <[>if <drawls>you</drawls></[></{> left behind though the value
      of that <.>re</.> second part of the ticket <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0205:CL>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0210:SA>
      would that help <,> towards that two thousand pounds

  <WSC#DGZ052:0215:CL>
      mm probably <quietly>i'd say <{><[>yeah</quietly></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0220:SA>
      <[>see</[></{> that's <.>the</.> that's the way I would do it
      the <?><.>re</.></?> <drawls>um</drawls> <,>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0225:SA>
      CERTAINLY by all means you've got your nine weeks in the u <.>s</.>
      whereabouts in the u s

  <WSC#DGZ052:0230:CL>
      <O>tut</O> new york state <&>10:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0235:SA>
      okay <,>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0240:SA>
      <O>voc</O> <.>i</.> <.>i</.> <,> REALLY the emphasis on your
      trip in this case should be u k europe

  <WSC#DGZ052:0245:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0250:SA>
      with your nine week stop <,>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0255:SA>
      RATHER than trying to explore the rest of the u s

  <WSC#DGZ052:0260:CL>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0265:SA>
      i would LEAVE it er and maybe take an opportunity of scheduling
      <.>a</.> maybe another two to three weeks at the END of your <,>
      nine week

  <WSC#DGZ052:0270:SA>
      <{1><[1>er</[1> counselling course <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0275:SA>
      because there WILL be people <?>you'll</?> meet and that you'll
      want to catch up with <{2><[2>afterwards</[2> so if you schedule
      say two weeks after that where you go and meet with their family
      and <.>friends</.> <{3><[3>americans</[3> that you meet and
      spend some time with them <O>tut</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0280:SA>
      but then GO through to the u k

  <WSC#DGZ052:0285:SA>
      the reason being is a the majority of the cost of your ticket is
      getting to the u k and europe

  <WSC#DGZ052:0290:CL>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0295:CL>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0300:CL>
      <[3>mm</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0305:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0310:SA>
      GET that out of your <.>system</.> get there find a job and so
      on

  <WSC#DGZ052:0315:SA>
      east coast u s a is very <?><.>acs</.></?> <&>microphone noise</&>
      accessible and is going to be very cheap to get to in the future
      <{><[>from</[> u k

  <WSC#DGZ052:0320:SA>
      if you DON'T and things don't work out and <&>11:00</&> you come
      back to new zealand because of the competition on the new
      zealand to u s a flight routes it's ALWAYS going to be cheap
      enough to get to the states

  <WSC#DGZ052:0325:CL>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0330:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0335:SA>
      BUT you may not get back to u k and europe again so <{><[>er</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0340:CL>
      <[>what</[></{> for being too old or <{><[>for just not being
      able to <.>get</.></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0345:SA>
      <[>no not <unclear>word</unclear></[></{> not necessarily being
      too old but it's ALWAYS that extra eight nine <{1><[1>hundred</[1>
      dollars on the <{2><[2>cost</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0350:CL>
      <[1>right</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0355:CL>
      <[2>to get</[2></{2> there <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0360:CJ>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0365:CL>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0370:AA>
      and it's ALSO another ten hours worth of flying

  <WSC#DGZ052:0375:CL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ052:0380:SA>
      and you don't <.>think</.> i mean <.>y</.> people don't think of
      going up to london and europe for a two week holiday but you go
      up to <O>voc</O> the states for a two week holiday

  <WSC#DGZ052:0385:CL>
      right yeah

  <WSC#DGZ052:0390:SA>
      so <.>you</.> it's always accessible to go up and have a short
      break up there but when you go to u k and europe you're looking
      at REALLY to make it worthwhile a MONTH to THREE months and you
      know when you're back <?>in</?> new zealand or in the u k
      working whatever how often are you gonna have month to three
      month holiday breaks

  <WSC#DGZ052:0395:CL>
      <quietly>right</quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0400:SA>
      so <{><[>you know</[> <.>that's</.> <.>y</.> your emphasis <.>is</.>
      <O>voc</O> you should be concentrating on u k europe

  <WSC#DGZ052:0405:CJ>
      <[>mm</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0410:CL>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0415:CL>
      yeah <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0420:SA>
      SAVE your money HAVE your nine week course schedule another
      couple of weeks and say right i've got a budget for that

  <WSC#DGZ052:0425:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0430:SA>
      <O>tut</O> THEN <,> go across to the u k europe GIVE it your
      best shot and see if you can get jobs and all the rest of it and
      do your bit there

  <WSC#DGZ052:0435:CJ>
      and if you can't you've <{1><[1>still</[1> got your return fare
      <.>in</.> at home in <{2><[2>new</[2> zealand <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0440:SA>
      <[1><.>start</.></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0445:CL>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0450:SA>
      come back yeah and you know the <.>states</.> the rest of the
      states will always be accessible <{><[>to you</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0455:CL>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0460:CL>
      it's just all so confusing <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0465:CJ>
      <?>oh</?> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0470:CL>
      terribly <{1><[1>confusing</[1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0475:CL>
      well <.>the</.> ANOTHER thing is that i'm going <.>and</.>
      because i've still got a bit of <.>a</.> this is the REAL <.>story</.>
      is that i've got <.>s</.> um sort of some of my student loan to
      pay off

  <WSC#DGZ052:0480:CL>
      that's why i wasn't thinking of doing the big thing to london
      YET because i don't think that i can work in london earn enough
      money to pay off my loan at the same time AND earn enough to
      live AND then travel

  <WSC#DGZ052:0485:CL>
      <{2><[2>so</[2> that's why i thought well if i get a ticket to
      um just go and visit some of my cousins and friends in london
      and stuff and <.>then</.> <&>13:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0490:SA>
      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0495:SA>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0500:SA>
      <O>tut</O> come back mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0505:CL>
      come back maybe work here OR i was thinking if i could work
      illegally in america as a nanny or <{1><[1>something</[1> or in
      canada then

  <WSC#DGZ052:0510:CL>
      i think my main thing is to um get a job when i finish <.>ca</.>
      travel round a <{2><[2>then</[2> get a job

  <WSC#DGZ052:0515:CL>
      it's sort of that money

  <WSC#DGZ052:0520:SA>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0525:SA>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0530:SA>
      mm <O>tut</O> well still you know i mean if you're looking at
      maybe going back again to the u k europe in a year afterwards or
      two years <{><[>afterwards</[> i would still <.>then</.>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0535:SA>
      you know the friends and contacts you're going to <.>make</.>
      <O>tut</O> after that year <.>o</.> being your counselling

  <WSC#DGZ052:0540:CL>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0545:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0550:SA>
      they will gel into REAL friends

  <WSC#DGZ052:0555:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0560:SA>
      and you will really know which ones you want to go back and
      spend some time with

  <WSC#DGZ052:0565:CL>
      right

  <WSC#DGZ052:0570:SA>
      er so i'd still would stick to my original er suggestion

  <WSC#DGZ052:0575:CL>
      one way to london

  <WSC#DGZ052:0580:SA>
      <.>yea</.> well <.>i</.> in your case no make it a return <{><[>now</[>
      because you've got your commitments back here that you've got
      financially and er <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0585:CL>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0590:CL>
      YEAH i mean like the student <{1><[1>loan</[1> is on <.>a</.>
      <{2><[2>quite</[2> <.>a</.>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0595:SA>
      <[1>and</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0600:SA>
      <[2><.>it's</.></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0605:SA>
      but DON'T go for the air pass to whip around <.>eur</.> er the
      states

  <WSC#DGZ052:0610:CL>
      states yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0615:SA>
      still <.>s</.> put that money <&>pronounced as mohney</&> into
      <?><.>s</.></?> spending it in <&>14:00</&> <{><[>u k</[> and
      europe and spending the time there

  <WSC#DGZ052:0620:CL>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0625:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0630:CJ>
      <O>tut</O> mm that's really interesting advice

  <WSC#DGZ052:0635:CJ>
      <{><[>yeah yeah i had thought of that</[> the fact that <.>it's</.>
      you know america's more easily accessible

  <WSC#DGZ052:0640:CL>
      <[>it's good because it's <.>just</.></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0645:CL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ052:0650:CJ>
      <O>inhales</O> cos it is a <{><[><.>long</.></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0655:CL>
      <[>cos</[></{> they haven't <.>got</.> you haven't got that time
      limit <,> <{><[>thing</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0660:CL>
      but um <.>t</.> have <.>you</.> <O>voc</O> do you know much
      about working <softly>illegally</softly> and <.>what</.> <.>like</.>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0665:CJ>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0670:SA>
      <O>tut</O> in the <{><[>states?</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0675:CL>
      <[><.>you</.></[></{> you hear of VARIOUS stories of people who
      go there and have spent you know two years nannying and have had
      a whale of a time and <.>ha</.> had NO problems and then you've
      <.>heard</.> like the other week i heard this woman who got
      NEARLY caught and she just had to flee <,> <{><[>really quickly</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0680:SA>
      <[>mm <,> well that's</[></{> the problem you know <O>voc</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0685:SA>
      i guess <,> <O>tut</O> um if you're a labourer or a tradesperson
      <&>pronounced as tradesperdson</&> or something like that and
      you're just doing sort of the odd job <{><[>as you're</[>
      working your way across the states it's NOT gonna be a big deal

  <WSC#DGZ052:0690:CL>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0695:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0700:SA>
      but IF you're actually wanting to have a STABLE job where you're
      staying in one place and doing it <,> the odds are gonna be a
      lot HIGHER that you're gonna get caught out <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0705:CL>
      mm <&>15:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0710:SA>
      you CERTAINLY are not gonna be paid as well because they realise
      that they've got YOU <,> <{><[>in</[> a situation um <O>tut</O>
      and <.>it</.> it's a difficulty that you know you've got to be
      CONSCIOUS of WHO you talk <.>abou</.> talk to

  <WSC#DGZ052:0715:CL>
      <[>mm</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0720:CJ>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0725:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0730:SA>
      WHAT you talk about and so <.>on</.>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0735:SA>
      i don't think <,> it's worth it to stuff it up if you know what
      i mean

  <WSC#DGZ052:0740:CL>
      <O>tut</O> is <.>it</.> do <.>y</.> are you not advising <{><[><.>to</.></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0745:SA>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <.>i</.> <.>i</.> i <.>mean</.> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0750:CL>
      <quietly>to work <{><[>there</quietly></[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0755:SA>
      <[>if you</[></{> <.>j</.> just wanting to do a little bit here
      and there as you make your way across

  <WSC#DGZ052:0760:CL>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0765:SA>
      that's fine <?>and</?> i don't think you'll have any problem BUT
      <{><[>if you</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0770:CL>
      <[>but what</[></{> <?>about if i was</?> in a nanny sort of
      situation where a family could say can you come and work <.>f</.>
      with me for SIX months <.>or</.>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0775:SA>
      <O>tut</O> <.>we</.> <{><[>well don't you see i</[> mean then in
      that sort of situation <,> you CAN get it through the u s
      embassy here

  <WSC#DGZ052:0780:CL>
      <[><.>wh</.> what do you SAY <.>when</.></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0785:CL>
      right

  <WSC#DGZ052:0790:SA>
      er <{1><[1><?>get a</?></[1> <,> a <.>s</.> get a situation <{2><[2><.>where</.></[2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0795:CL>
      <[1>what jobs?</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0800:CJ>
      <[2>you get</[2></{2> permission

  <WSC#DGZ052:0805:SA>
      yeah on a shortterm basis <,> <{><[>er</[>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0810:SA>
      but you know <O>voc</O> if er <,> <O>tut</O>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0815:SA>
      yeah i <.>j</.> i <.>just</.> <&>16:00</&> <.>it's</.> the
      trouble with AMERICA is that IF you get caught

  <WSC#DGZ052:0820:CL>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0825:CL>
      you can't <{><[>go back</[> yeah

  <WSC#DGZ052:0830:SA>
      <[>THAT'S it</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0835:SA>
      er well you know you're looking at a situation where you will
      NOT ever be trusted again

  <WSC#DGZ052:0840:CL>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ052:0845:SA>
      and is it worth it JUST to have a six month job

  <WSC#DGZ052:0850:SA>
      is it <{><[>maybe</[> not better to um be in a situation where
      um you know you either SAVE up the extra money or you do it
      properly and apply for american <.>citizen</.> <&>pronounced as
      <.>citizition</.></&> citizenship

  <WSC#DGZ052:0855:CL>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0860:CL>
      which is really hard though isn't it

  <WSC#DGZ052:0865:SA>
      <O>tut</O> yeah it's not easy but what you CAN do is though go
      through to <?>the</?> canada and that's a lot easier and <{1><[1>then</[1>
      from canada you can get your green cards and go across the <{2><[2>border</[2>
      to work

  <WSC#DGZ052:0870:CL>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0875:CL>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0880:CL>
      because the thing is i'm <.>a</.> a photographer <{1><[1>and</[1>
      with a trade like that i think that it's EASIER because you can
      say well <,> <.>what</.> <{2><[2>what they do</[2> and <.>they</.>
      yeah and you can say well i want this person cos they've got
      that sort of <{3><[3>style</[3> and that there's no one in
      america or no one <{4><[4><unclear>word</unclear> who's got</[4>
      <.>that</.> so i think maybe it <{5><[5>could possibly be easier
      i don't</[5> know

  <WSC#DGZ052:0885:SA>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0890:SA>
      <[2>it's an art</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0895:CJ>
      <[3><O>coughs</O></[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0900:CJ>
      <[4><O>coughs</O></[4></{4> <&>17:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ052:0905:SA>
      <[5>yeah see i mean you know <.>you</.> <O>voc</O> <.>you</.></[5></{5>
      <&>17:02</&>
</I>
