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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>2:33</&>
  

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      okay

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      MINUTES of last meeting

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      anybody got any comments

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      everybody's <,> read them?

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      yes

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      <O>voc</O> matters arising? <,,>

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      no? <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0040:X2>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0045:KC>
      i can't remember reading them actually

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      well you weren't there at the meeting <&>3:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0055:KC>
      wasn't i

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      yes <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0065:BB>
      no no i don't think you were <.>you</.>

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      mm <latch>

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      mm

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      i was in i was in hobart actually

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      mm

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      okay reports <{><[>um</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0095:KC>
      <[>of course</[></{> i was still in <unclear>word</unclear>

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      brief reports

  <WSC#DGZ064:0105:X2>
      finance please andrew

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      um welcome the reports that er information technology er provide
      a new <?>subnet</?> for the purposes of <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0115:DA>
      to isolate that machine and the traffic it produces

  <WSC#DGZ064:0120:DA>
      er <,,> and that er <,> we're looking to improve er the
      reporting

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      er the asset register for departments

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      make it in more usable form

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      er extend the length of description in particular

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      um er and er still very much appreciating the er having an
      applications consultant in the office to look <&>4:00</&> after
      all the computing needs that we have er that have been
      suppressed for so long

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      yes <latch>

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      and are now being attended to

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      okay

  <WSC#DGZ064:0160:BB>
      he's getting along very well with our staff too

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      with terry and myself

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      so we're enjoying working with <{><[>him</[>

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      <[>mm</[></{> okay do you see him from to time <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>oh yes yes</[></{> yeah that's good

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      okay and there's nothing from jenny

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      i don't think anybody's <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0195:DA>
      well there's <{><[>er</[>

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      <[>degree</[></{> <{><[>audit</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0205:DA>
      <[>there's</[></{> <{><[>the there's</[> the report on degree
      audit and

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      <[>there's <.>a</.></[></{>

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      but not on student administration as such

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      mm

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      <{><[><?>i tried</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>but</?></[>
      nobody else

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      <[><quietly><unclear>word</unclear> yes yes</quietly></[></{>

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      mm

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      yes it's it's looking very promising

  <WSC#DGZ064:0245:FD>
      what they're doing with the degree audit of the <.>b</.> in
      relation to the b s c anyway <{><[>er</[>

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      <[>but</[></{> one thing i'm not i'm not clear about this
      heather <O>coughs</O>

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      um <,> <O>tut</O> the

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      seems to me that the the degree audit <,> ought to be aimed
      towards in its first instance aimed towards deciding <&>5:00</&>
      whether somebody's completed enough for a degree <latch>

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      right <latch>

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      so therefore things like corequisite and prerequisite checking
      and so on is hardly necessary is it <,> for that <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>they should</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0280:FD>
      yeah you're right

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      in in theory they should before they're given <.>ad</.>
      admission to any individual course that <{1><[1>should</[1> be
      checked out <{2><[2>by</[2> whoever's admitting them into the
      course that <{3><[3>they've got the</[3>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yes</[2></{2>

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      <[3>and <.>o</.> but once</[3></{3> they're in the course if
      they've passed the course they

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      i would have thought that that counts towards the <{><[>degree</[>
      irrespective of <latch>

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      <[>yeah</[></{> that's right <latch>

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      if they've got <.>two</.>

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      it <.>i</.> it is one of the tidying up things that the faculty
      administrators or whoever's doing the auditing does

  <WSC#DGZ064:0325:DA>
      yeah

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      um <,> just checking to see that everything <,> is in in order
      in that respect

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      and if it's not they then get sort of retrospective permission
      to <laughs>be exempted</laughs> <latch>

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      yeah

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      from doing that directly <latch>

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      mm

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      but apart from that yeah <,> it's it's a reasonably straight
      forward <{><[>exercise</[>

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      <[>administration</[></{> seems to be one that everyone's talked
      about for a long long time and it's been highly essential

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      but <{><[>if</[> they haven't <?>worked out</?> at the beginning

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      as you say oh although you <&>6:00</&> can't go <unclear>word</unclear>

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      in any case <.>the</.> this university takes the responsibility
      for ensuring that it graduates

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      that that the the students ARE enrolled in a course which will
      lead to a degree

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      er um in that respect this university is fairly well unique

  <WSC#DGZ064:0390:BB>
      i suspect that most universities allow people into courses they
      want to take and it's the students' responsibility as to whether
      it leads them to a degree or not

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      but and um you know so that there's there's a lot of
      crosscrediting <,,> goes on and <,>

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      and it's a very labour intensive <,>

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      project

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      very labour intensive and and very subject to error

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      mhm <,,>

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      do we want to make any relevant comments back to jenny <{><[>from
      this</[> or <latch>

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      <[>i don't</[></{>

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      i i i'm not suggesting we do

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      <{><[>i'm</[> just just just i would have thought that the first
      <unclear>word</unclear> degree audit for b s c could simply <,>
      ensure that we're graduating people who are entitled to <laughs>graduate</laughs>
      <latch>

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      <[>no</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      that in itself would be a significant <{><[><,> achievement yeah</[>
      <&>7:00</&>

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      <[>it would indeed yes</[></{>

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      but there is <O>voc</O> a an error in here which i will need to
      tell somebody

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      er i guess it's lawson i'll go and tell <O>tut</O> at this stage
      <,> mm

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      mm <{><[>well</[> you're on the you're on the

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      <[>okay</[></{>

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      in the group <{><[>yes</[>

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0500:KC>
      <unclear>word</unclear> thank you

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      the only difficulty I have is is is set course comments at the
      top of page two

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      <?>these</?> comment <,> about the time it's going to take to
      get that <unclear>word</unclear> <?>coordination and a</?> <,,>

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      and the time available to do this task and all the others as
      well

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      mm

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      yes that's the problem isn't it mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:0530:KC>
      big gap now nothing will be done other than what lawson can do

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      and heather are you still working on <,,> more rules and things
      or <{><[>do you hope more</[>

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      you've done all your task

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      <[>no <.>they</.> they've got</[></{>

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      i've i've more or less done it

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      they've got the rules all straight <{1><[1>um</[1> <,>

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      <.>i</.> it's just my job at the moment is pulling out some
      tricky cases for them to <{2><[2>test to test</[2>

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      that's um

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yes well see mm mm</[2></{2> <,,> <&>8:00</&>

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      yes because the <{1><[1><?>test's aim</?> is</[1> the one that
      will show up any <,> inconsistencies and <{2><[2>problems</[2>
      yeah

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      <[1><?><.>we</.> once they</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      okay then we move on to training

  <WSC#DGZ064:0600:X2>
      are you going to <{1><[1>give</[1> us anything <{2><[2>caroline</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0605:X3>
      <[1>no</[1></{1>

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      <[2>i <.>have</.></[2></{2> i haven't <.>s</.>

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      right when i spoke to mark this morning he was at a meeting so i
      haven't actually got anything <{><[>from him</[>

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      but he's <unclear>word</unclear> an apology

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      <[>right okay</[></{>

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      network and communications phil

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      yeah i got some <.>pro</.>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0640:DA>
      well actually i do have some progress to report <,> <quietly>fortunately
      for a change</quietly>

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      not as much as i had hoped of course <&>rustles papers three
      seconds</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0650:DA>
      <quietly>there you go</quietly>

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      thank you

  <WSC#DGZ064:0660:KC>
      thank you

  <WSC#DGZ064:0665:DA>
      got one for ashley here

  <WSC#DGZ064:0670:??>
      <O>voc</O>

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      he doesn't need one um <,>

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      <quietly>and a few spares</quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0685:DA>
      um you might like <.>i</.> if <{1><[1>you're going to <unclear>word</unclear>
      to her but</[1> you might as well just take those with you

  <WSC#DGZ064:0690:DA>
      um since the last meeting

  <WSC#DGZ064:0695:DA>
      um by accident more than design <&>9:00</&> we've got the
      chaplaincies MORE or less cabled in fact <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0700:DA>
      they may already actually be be be <.>c</.> be ready to for
      connection right now um

  <WSC#DGZ064:0705:DA>
      <.>i</.> is john <.>r</.> <{2><[2>connected mm</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0710:FD>
      <[1>i'll take those to <unclear>word</unclear> mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0715:KC>
      <[2>i haven't heard</[2></{2> from him for a week which is
      surprising

  <WSC#DGZ064:0720:DA>
      yeah <,> um <,,> <O>tut</O> and a few additions to here

  <WSC#DGZ064:0725:DA>
      um i'll come back to those

  <WSC#DGZ064:0730:DA>
      er the office for research in mount street and the v u w press
      ARE connected <,> now

  <WSC#DGZ064:0735:DA>
      so those connections are finally crossed off the list

  <WSC#DGZ064:0740:DA>
      <drawls>the</drawls> <.>s</.> the um union building <,> and
      students' association <,> have not yet been connected
      <,,><&>3</&>

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      despite um fairly pointed questions <,> in raised tone of voice
      being asked over several weeks now

  <WSC#DGZ064:0750:DA>
      there's almost nothing to do so that's what the entry there <,>
      <quietly>reflects</quietly>

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      um also <,> since the last report we have connected um er
      <&>10:00</&> <.>s</.> six kelburn parade

  <WSC#DGZ064:0760:DA>
      they're now connected

  <WSC#DGZ064:0765:KC>
      they're not up and running because it's in their court <,> <{><[>at
      the</[> moment

  <WSC#DGZ064:0770:DA>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0775:DA>
      er <,,> the um <.>the</.>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0780:DA>
      just just commenting onto other things you might be interested
      in <O>tut</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0785:DA>
      the um <O>tut</O> <,,><&>3</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0790:DA>
      there's going to be a <.>m</.> a <.>m</.> another series of
      major shifts over next summer

  <WSC#DGZ064:0795:DA>
      um the international students' office is being moved <,> again

  <WSC#DGZ064:0800:DA>
      i've noted that in here i should actually have highlighted that

  <WSC#DGZ064:0805:DA>
      um being moved into an area which is not currently cabled for
      the sort of equipment they have

  <WSC#DGZ064:0810:DA>
      this is the sort of frustration i'm continually put to by um by
      you know just the <?>shell</?> game of shuffling people around

  <WSC#DGZ064:0815:DA>
      the network connections are the last things taken into account
      and we suddenly have to drop everything and charge off in
      another direction to in order to meet a requirement

  <WSC#DGZ064:0820:X1>
      where are they moving to

  <WSC#DGZ064:0825:DA>
      they're moving to the area which was vacated by the graduation
      office which is cabled for apple talk

  <WSC#DGZ064:0830:X1>
      yeah it was indeed <O>clears throat</O> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0835:DA>
      um <,> so <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0840:X1>
      <O>clears throat</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0845:DA>
      so it's it's it's EXTREMELY frustrating and we're going to face
      exactly the same thing over the summer as well

  <WSC#DGZ064:0850:DA>
      um people are moving from er the arts faculty who are well
      connected

  <WSC#DGZ064:0855:DA>
      and a lot of them are moving into an area which <,> has been
      extremely difficult to get networked and is still not networked

  <WSC#DGZ064:0860:DA>
      so there's going to be enormous pressure to get <,> stuff that
      we have not yet begun to tackle completed by the end of the
      summer <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0865:DA>
      and it doesn't seem to matter who i talked to brian brown about
      this <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0870:DA>
      <quietly>and <,> it's</quietly> brushed aside

  <WSC#DGZ064:0875:DA>
      i have told joanne morrison that she should ensure that the
      network will work for to her satisfaction before she even begins
      to pack her bags

  <WSC#DGZ064:0880:X1>
      mm mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0885:DA>
      and um i don't care what sort of pressure that puts other people
      under

  <WSC#DGZ064:0890:DA>
      it's it's just LUDICROUS

  <WSC#DGZ064:0895:KC>
      i think she's taken that on <{1><[1>board</[1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0900:KC>
      she mentioned it to me when <,> talk <{2><[2>about</[2> phones

  <WSC#DGZ064:0905:DA>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0910:DA>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0915:DA>
      yeah good

  <WSC#DGZ064:0920:DA>
      i mean <.>i</.> it's it's you know she should not be subject to
      that sort of pressure <&>12:00</&> it's ridiculous

  <WSC#DGZ064:0925:DA>
      and nor <.>s</.> should we er mm <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0930:DA>
      <drawls>um</drawls> the other er thing i'd like to draw your
      attention to is the list of external connections to local
      regional er educational institutions

  <WSC#DGZ064:0935:DA>
      i've now written to about half the people on the list um <,>
      pointing out that c i t topnz <drawls>um</drawls> the wellington
      college of education and <indig=Maori>whitireia</indig=Maori> i
      <.>w</.> have <,> definitely now <,> er committed to linking to
      victoria university <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0940:DA>
      <drawls>um</drawls> and that's the internet

  <WSC#DGZ064:0945:DA>
      and i've i've written to hawkes bay hutt valley <,,> <drawls>um</drawls>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0950:DA>
      oh c i t has also committed

  <WSC#DGZ064:0955:DA>
      <drawls>um</drawls> i haven't written to nelson polytechnic yet

  <WSC#DGZ064:0960:DA>
      i've written to wairarapa and to <,,> i <.>have</.> <.>did</.>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0965:DA>
      i have to the wellington polytechnic suggesting that we need
      <&>13:00</&> to get discussions under way er

  <WSC#DGZ064:0970:DA>
      so we're going to have a quite a an extensive network

  <WSC#DGZ064:0975:DA>
      our concern is not whether they connect to victoria university
      incidentally

  <WSC#DGZ064:0980:DA>
      it's <.>w</.> they connect to the internet

  <WSC#DGZ064:0985:X1>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:0990:BB>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:0995:DA>
      and then we can then communicate with them and work with them

  <WSC#DGZ064:1000:BB>
      the

  <WSC#DGZ064:1005:BB>
      <{1><[1>i was</[1> at the wellington polytechnic this morning er

  <WSC#DGZ064:1010:BB>
      and amongst other things i touched on <,> this report that <{2><[2>i'd</[2>
      seen a number of times in the last month and just confirming
      with them that they didn't have any plans to connect <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1015:FD>
      <[1>phil</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1020:DA>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1025:DA>
      right <latch> anything to anything

  <WSC#DGZ064:1030:BB>
      they tell me they in fact do have a director of information
      services

  <WSC#DGZ064:1035:BB>
      her name's andrea

  <WSC#DGZ064:1040:DA>
      yes <{><[>andrea</[> andrea farnham who's their academic officer

  <WSC#DGZ064:1045:DA>
      i've talked to her this afternoon

  <WSC#DGZ064:1050:DA>
      no sorry i haven't talked to HER yet but i understand she's
      sending me a letter

  <WSC#DGZ064:1055:DA>
      er i but i did talk to bill koenigsdorfer a few minutes ago

  <WSC#DGZ064:1060:BB>
      <[>farnham</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1065:X1>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1070:DA>
      he's the principal at wellington polytechnic <{><[>and</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1075:X1>
      <[>but but</[></{> she has <{1><[1>your</[1> equivalent
      responsibility so <{2><[2>i</[2> understand <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1080:DA>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1085:DA>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1090:DA>
      yeah that that that i have now ascertained

  <WSC#DGZ064:1095:DA>
      it's taken quite a long time that

  <WSC#DGZ064:1100:DA>
      i believe this appointment is a very recent one <&>14:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1105:X1>
      it was actually announced in <,,> the paper or something
      recently

  <WSC#DGZ064:1110:DA>
      yes yes i know yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1115:X1>
      it was quite official <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1120:DA>
      so i am i i'm going to contact her arrange to go and visit her
      and so on <{1><[1>so</[1> um

  <WSC#DGZ064:1125:DA>
      and and she's apparently very keen to <,,> to link up their
      various disparate er networks and so on to a cohesive you know

  <WSC#DGZ064:1130:DA>
      which is what we've been looking for um

  <WSC#DGZ064:1135:DA>
      it's taken quite a long time to get there but they seem to be
      heading in the right direction at least

  <WSC#DGZ064:1140:DA>
      i like to think that a couple of sarcastic references er from
      various people of this university actually helped them along the
      right way

  <WSC#DGZ064:1145:DA>
      pointed out the errors of <{2><[2>their ways

  <WSC#DGZ064:1150:DA>
      i <.>the</.></[2> i think they've been getting it from quite a
      number of different sides actually

  <WSC#DGZ064:1155:DA>
      mm <{3><[3>so</[3>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1160:X1>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1165:X1>
      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1170:X2>
      <[3><.>and</.></[3></{3> this might actually come up under
      number six

  <WSC#DGZ064:1175:X2>
      but i had a call from um consultants this morning that we had
      actually talked to about um <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1180:X2>
      they they were interested in trying to do some work for us at
      vivian street

  <WSC#DGZ064:1185:X2>
      <{1><[1>and</[1> um we said no <{2><[2>but</[2> they were
      talking <{3><[3>to</[3>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1190:DA>
      <[1>mhm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1195:DA>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1200:DA>
      <[3><.>pat</.></[3></{3> patrick munro

  <WSC#DGZ064:1205:X2>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ064:1210:X2>
      <{><[>so <.>he</.></[> <&>15:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1215:DA>
      <[>from b <.>s</.></[></{> b c c or b c l

  <WSC#DGZ064:1220:X2>
      b c something <{><[>i don't</[> know so <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1225:DA>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1230:DA>
      yeah i

  <WSC#DGZ064:1235:DA>
      er bill <{><[>bill</[> koenigsdorfer gave me that name as well

  <WSC#DGZ064:1240:X2>
      <[>right</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1245:X2>
      okay well he came through to me this morning and said that
      polytech are definitely interested in linking via microwave to
      us

  <WSC#DGZ064:1250:DA>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:1255:X2>
      <drawls>and</drawls> <{1><[1>he'd looked at</[1> the sort of
      <{2><[2>microwave and i told him</[2> to talk to marcus

  <WSC#DGZ064:1260:DA>
      <[1>did they <unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1265:DA>
      <[2>yeah yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1270:DA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ064:1275:X2>
      so <O>voc</O> <{><[><quietly><?>mm</?></quietly></[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1280:DA>
      <[>that's that's in</[></{> the appropriate place still

  <WSC#DGZ064:1285:DA>
      er <.>that</.> yeah i <.>i</.> they're very very keen to <.>ensure</.>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1290:DA>
      apparently they don't have line of sight to vivian street

  <WSC#DGZ064:1295:DA>
      <{1><[1>and</[1> so they're going to need to link to vivian
      street through us anyway

  <WSC#DGZ064:1300:DA>
      they're very keen to make sure what we're putting in doesn't <,>
      doesn't restrict that <{2><[2>opportunity</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1305:X2>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1310:X2>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2> that's right

  <WSC#DGZ064:1315:DA>
      so that that's that's fine and i think that's that's it's very
      reasonable <{><[><?>and um</?></[> mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:1320:X2>
      <[>okay</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1325:X2>
      thanks phil

  <WSC#DGZ064:1330:X2>
      any comments on phil's <?>paper</?>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1335:X2>
      <quietly>no</quietly> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1340:X2>
      security

  <WSC#DGZ064:1345:X2>
      who usually does security <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1350:X1>
      normally i think bevan reports on that <&>16:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1355:X1>
      <{1><[1><O>exhales</O></[1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1360:X1>
      not that there's a great deal to report on actually <{2><[2>at
      this stage</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1365:X2>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1370:X2>
      <[2><quietly><unclear>word</unclear></quietly></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1375:X2>
      okay personnel rena

  <WSC#DGZ064:1380:X2>
      <{><[>anything to</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1385:X4>
      <[>i don't have</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1390:X4>
      no nothing <{><[>to report</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1395:X2>
      <[>nothing</[></{> to report

  <WSC#DGZ064:1400:X2>
      gonna be a fast meeting

  <WSC#DGZ064:1405:KC>
      it's tootling along <O>laughter</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1410:X1>
      well the fact <{><[>is well</[> the fact fact is that

  <WSC#DGZ064:1415:KC>
      <[>nothing's</[></{> happened <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1420:X1>
      the fact fact is that an awful <{1><[1>of</[1> the issues that
      were major <{2><[2>issues</[2> a year ago <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1425:FD>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1430:FD>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1435:KC>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:1440:X1>
      have recently resolved themselves <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1445:KC>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1450:X1>
      in the meantime

  <WSC#DGZ064:1455:KC>
      yes this is <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1460:X3>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:1465:KC>
      this whole report <{1><[1>and</[1> <{2><[2>agenda</[2> has been
      in place <drawls>since</drawls> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1470:X1>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1475:X3>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1480:X3>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ064:1485:KC>
      <O>tut</O> i don't know a long long time isn't it

  <WSC#DGZ064:1490:KC>
      ninety ninety one and ninety ninety mm <{><[>oh</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1495:X2>
      <[>okay</[></{> off site interconnectivity

  <WSC#DGZ064:1500:X2>
      anything <.>e</.> <{><[>more to</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1505:DA>
      <[>well i don't yet</[></{> have anything <,> to add to what
      i've just said about that

  <WSC#DGZ064:1510:DA>
      and it sort of comes to this report

  <WSC#DGZ064:1515:DA>
      i <.>think</.> <,> <.>the</.> that's not to say that we
      shouldn't be referred to separately

  <WSC#DGZ064:1520:DA>
      but it is worth pointing out that um <,,><&>3</&> er first of
      all there is that document that was tabled at <unclear>word</unclear>
      yesterday <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1525:X2>
      <quietly>right</quietly> <latch> <&>17:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1530:DA>
      of the checklist for off site linkages ones where we <.>ch</.>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1535:DA>
      i haven't actually read through in detail

  <WSC#DGZ064:1540:DA>
      it looks it looks to have that was and interesting <?>note</?>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1545:X2>
      should we bring that document to the next meeting to discuss
      <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1550:DA>
      no not necessarily

  <WSC#DGZ064:1555:X2>
      <quietly>no <{><[>okay</quietly></[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1560:DA>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <,> right

  <WSC#DGZ064:1565:DA>
      <?>don't know</?> you could suggest it to jenny ash cos jenny's
      in charge of that area isn't she

  <WSC#DGZ064:1570:DA>
      she's <{><[>the</[> driving um <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1575:DA>
      um i mean

  <WSC#DGZ064:1580:X2>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1585:X2>
      i'm not saying

  <WSC#DGZ064:1590:X2>
      i don't know that jenny IS driving it

  <WSC#DGZ064:1595:X2>
      it came from us all being asked to put in <{><[>comments <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1600:X2>
      so it's ashley</[> that's driving that <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1605:DA>
      <[>oh is <.>it</.> oh</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1610:DA>
      okay <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1615:X2>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1620:DA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ064:1625:X2>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1630:DA>
      mm <,> i've emphasised

  <WSC#DGZ064:1635:DA>
      i mean i've i've sort of building up quite a network of contacts
      now

  <WSC#DGZ064:1640:DA>
      and i've emphasised to everybody that i'm basically responding
      to an initiative the university's undertaking being lead by
      richard robson <,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1645:DA>
      now <,> he hasn't really had any problem to document <quietly>yet
      has he</quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1650:X2>
      <quietly>no</quietly> <&>18:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1655:DA>
      <quietly>and um</quietly> he's away i think on his prolonged <,>
      running tour of the world <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1660:??>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1665:DA>
      don't know when he's back

  <WSC#DGZ064:1670:??>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1675:X2>
      so would you suggest that that document is seen by him at some
      stage

  <WSC#DGZ064:1680:DA>
      <quietly>i would have thought so yes

  <WSC#DGZ064:1685:DA>
      seems <?>worth looking into</?></quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1690:X1>
      there was a note last time under privacy <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1695:X1>
      maureen kane and jenny and <?>jeanette</?> to confer with
      <unclear>word</unclear> the effect on the alumni <{><[>association</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1700:DA>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1705:KC>
      yes and that note was put in without any discussion

  <WSC#DGZ064:1710:KC>
      i was not aware of it and jenny rang me

  <WSC#DGZ064:1715:KC>
      and she <.>s</.> she wasn't AT the meeting and she asked me
      about it

  <WSC#DGZ064:1720:KC>
      and i said we didn't discuss THAT

  <WSC#DGZ064:1725:KC>
      that was in ashley's hands and he was discussing it with
      jeanette

  <WSC#DGZ064:1730:KC>
      and jenny was surprised

  <WSC#DGZ064:1735:KC>
      i was surprised

  <WSC#DGZ064:1740:KC>
      <drawls>and</drawls> so we had a discussion on the telephone and
      jenny was going to speak with <,,> jeanette about it

  <WSC#DGZ064:1745:KC>
      so i <&>19:00</&> haven't had any further input to that <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1750:KC>
      <{><[>yes</[>

  <WSC#DGZ064:1755:X2>
      <[>okay</[></{> then i'll get it put on next <,> month's meeting
      <&>19:06</&>
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