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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

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      i'm doing a cadet training programme and with that i've
      completed their retail skills certificate

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      mhm

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      and i've done a which involves um <.>s</.> a <{><[>series</[>

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      <[>does that</[></{> involve some <latch>

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      some marketing and and people people skills <{><[>etcetera
      etcetera and management</[>

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      <[><.>i</.> is it set</[></{> like a block course through <{><[>polytech</[>

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      <[>it is</[></{> yes

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      oh not through polytech sorry <{1><[1>not</[1> not done through
      the <{2><[2>polytech</[2>

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      it's their own course and it's twelve <latch>

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      <[1>not through</[1></{1>

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      <[2>no</[2></{2>

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      mhm <latch> twelve modules

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      and i've also done a course at polytech a marketing paper
      <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      at the time i didn't get a <latch>

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      was that for an n c b <latch>

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      it was yes

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      <{1><[1>i needed</[1> the one paper at the time because i had to
      start on this

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      i couldn't do <{2><[2>the two</[2> at the same time

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      <[1>mhm mhm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mhm</[2></{2>

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      <O>tut</O> right <latch>

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      okay

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      and what i was i was hoping <&>1:00</&> to do um was the b c a
      <{><[>um</[> in marketing or management

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

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      right <latch>

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      at victoria <latch>

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      that's going to be difficult to start right from the beginning
      <latch>

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      yeah <latch> because you'll come into university with special
      admission <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      um being over twenty and that's the that's what your entrance
      qualification would be <latch>

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      okay <latch>

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      so <O>tut</O> <,> b c a say they um do not take anyone into
      their programme in the first year with um without an entrance
      qualification <latch>

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      right <latch>

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      so they say start another degree

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      <{1><[1>do a</[1> b a

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      <{2><[2>you</[2> can do the same courses that you would do <{3><[3>for</[3>
      b c a and you complete those core requirements <latch>

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      <[1>mhm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mhm</[2></{2>

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      <[3>yeah</[3></{3>

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      yeah <latch>

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      if you pass with b grades <latch>

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      mhm <latch> no fails <{><[>but</[> pass thirty six credits
      <latch>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      right <latch>

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      then you can apply to transfer into commerce <latch>

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      <O>tut</O> okay yeah that's what i was <{><[>told</[>

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      <[>and</[></{> that allows you to go straight into second year
      commerce <latch>

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      right <{><[>that's actually</[>

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      <[>so you're</[></{> not disadvantaged really <latch>

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      good <latch> <&>2:00</&>

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      but you do have to prove yourself at <{1><[1>university <O>laughs</O></[1>

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      so that's <{2><[2>THAT'S</[2> <.>th</.> <.>th</.> <{3><[3>the
      difficulty</[3>

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      <[1>that's right so <O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2>right</[2></{2>

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      <[3>and um</[3></{3> one of the things that concerned me it it
      wouldn't be a problem later on because if i pass which i <?><.>pr</.></?>
      when i pass <latch>

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      mm <latch> um to be positive about it

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      <{><[>i'd</[> i'd be going into the areas not in economics or
      money and finance but in management and marketing <latch>

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      <[>yes</[></{>

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      marketing <{><[>mm</[>

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      <[>um one</[></{> of my big er weaknesses IS math <{1><[1>and</[1>
      i realise that you realise that you have to do two papers um in
      math <{2><[2>in the beginning</[2> you see <latch>

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      <[1>mhm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>you do</[2></{2>

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      yes <latch>

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      and with the b average i was i was gonna ask you what options
      are there that um

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      i know that the <{1><[1>teaching</[1> methods are different so
      it's easier <{2><[2>BUT</[2> also the mathematics level is quite
      high <latch>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      mhm <latch> and the expectations are there for the people to
      have GOOD solid <.>under</.> <{><[>understanding <?>and
      grounding</?></[>

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      <[>yes did you do</[></{> maths in sixth form <latch>

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      <O>tut</O> i did fifth form maths in <{><[>sixth form</[> you
      see

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      <drawls>so</drawls> it

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      that's <latch>

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

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      how did you go in that

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      not very well

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      that's the thing

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      <{1><[1>BUT</[1> i've i have um become better um through through
      work <&>3:00</&> <{2><[2>and</[2> with the more <{3><[3>practical
      side of statistics</[3>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <[3><O>tut</O> have you done done any</[3></{3> maths as part of
      the retail skills programme or is <latch>

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      only er retailing for profit <{1><[1>er</[1> which is <.>s</.>
      basically working out out <{2><[2>spreadsheets</[2> and er
      <unclear>word</unclear>

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      <[1>mhm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>right</[2></{2>

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      the maths <O>voc</O> you know lack is a problem <latch>

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      mm <latch> for our b c a degree <latch>

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      <O>tut</O> yep <latch>

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      um the victoria b c a degree is really set up with a pretty
      strong maths maths basis in that core <latch>

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      yeah

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      um <latch>

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      that's in the first <{><[>year</[>

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      <[>b</[></{> c a see that as important <{><[>for commerce</[>

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      now not all <?>the</?> universities do <latch>

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      <[>mm yeah</[></{>

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      mhm <latch>

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      and so i don't know whether you've looked at massey perhaps
      <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      but massey would offer a b b s degree <latch>

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      mm <latch> that does not have a compulsory maths <O>tut</O> <{><[>component</[>

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      <[>right</[></{>

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      i was hoping to do er was hoping to do it at victoria

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      <{><[>it's easier yeah yes yeah but i i understand that there
      are</[>

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      <[>mm i can understand that

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      <O>laughs</O> but i mean you</[></{> do need think about <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      other options as well <{1><[1>if</[1> maths is a real <{2><[2>worry</[2>
      for you

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>as well</[2></{2>

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      i i understand that there are a couple of um math <&>4:00</&>
      papers which ARE not as <{><[>testing as some calculus <?>ones</?></[>

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      <[>mm there are there are</[></{> two introductory <{><[>papers</[>
      and those are certainly the ones that you'd look at <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      okay <latch>

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      the trouble is that even the introductory maths one oh three
      <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      <O>voc</O> <O>voc</O> i think the general level is they presume
      a satisfactory sixth form <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      so <.>e</.> <.>e</.> <.>y</.> even for that introductory maths
      <{><[><O>voc</O> you you know</[> you could have a slightly
      shaky background <latch>

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      <[>mhm it's quite</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      but you could look at bridging courses <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:0610:SL>
      er another thing you could look at what what are <.>you</.>
      you're not at university this year

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      you're <{><[>not doing anything</[> <,>

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      <.>up</.> are you doing any study <latch>

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      <[>no no</[></{>

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      <O>tut</O> not at the present

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      <{1><[1>i've</[1> just completed that so <{2><[2><?>i'm</?></[2>

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      <[1>no</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm sometimes</[2></{2> i recommend that you look at
      correspondence school <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      and just work through the sixth form sets <latch>

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      right <latch>

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      they will probably enrol you you would have to check with them

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      i don't <{><[>know</[> exactly their rules

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      but you could get enrolled um at the correspondence school to do
      sixth form maths <latch>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      right <latch>

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      you won't get a sixth form certificate because you're starting
      too late in the <{><[><drawls>year</drawls></[> but you could go
      <&>5:00</&> through and work through as many of those sets as
      possible <latch>

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      <[>yeah yeah</[></{>

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      mm <latch> for your own background knowledge <latch>

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      right

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      and preparation <latch>

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      cos i know that there's a lot of support out there for people
      who <{1><[1>who need</[1> the help <{2><[2>and</[2>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>so</[2></{2> that's a so sixth form

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      mm <latch> maths through correspondence school would be one
      thing <latch>

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      okay <latch>

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      the bridging course <{><[>er</[> that we offer in february

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      it's a three week course <latch>

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      that TENDS to be a bit of a um reVISion rather than a first time
      run through <latch>

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      right <{><[>yeah</[>

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      <[>so</[></{> <.>i</.> it's not very long

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      three weeks is not a very LONG course <latch>

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      that's right <latch> and so you're not going to gain a whole
      year's maths <{><[>skill</[> in three weeks <latch>

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      <[>right</[></{>

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      yeah <latch>

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      but it's a refresher <latch>

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      mhm <latch> for um for people and it's confidence building as
      well <latch>

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      right yeah

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      the alternative is a massey bridging course

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      mhm <latch>

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      um they run extramural courses bridging courses in maths over
      the holidays <latch>

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      right <latch> <&>6:00</&>

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      and they are something that you could also do <{><[>um</[>

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      <[>okay</[></{>

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      they carry some credit i think <{><[>but</[> i'm not positive
      about that <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      right <latch>

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      they carry credit for massey and i understand from our
      admissions section that they also would carry some credit <.>f</.>
      for victoria as well

  <WSC#DGZ069:0860:SL>
      <{><[><?>and</?></[> that's a bonus <latch>

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      <[><O>tut</O> okay</[></{>

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      yeah <{><[>yeah</[>

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      <[>you</[></{> know <.>y</.> you get another six credits <latch>

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      okay <latch>

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      so you could look at doing the math one oh three and the stat
      one NINE three <{><[>as</[> your maths and stats option <latch>

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      <[>okay</[></{>

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      right

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      you then have to do a computing course <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      and the usual one is info one one one <latch>

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      yep and <{1><[1>that's</[1> quite a quite an <{2><[2>interesting
      <?>course</?></[2> from what i've heard yeah <latch>

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      <[1><.>tha</.></[1></{1>

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      <[2>that's</[2></{2>

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      <drawls>yes</drawls> <latch>

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      mm

  <WSC#DGZ069:0940:SL>
      then you've got a free choice one little six credit <{><[>free</[>
      choice

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      and i was i was looking at um perhaps doing a um <.>l</.>
      looking at a bachelor of arts option <latch>

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      mm <latch> er something like history or classical studies
      <&>7:00</&>

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      yes classical studies would be better than history <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      because history is only offered as a <.>f</.> as a twelve credit
      full year <{><[>course</[>

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      <[>oh</[></{> okay right <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:0980:SL>
      so classics you could do <latch>

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      mhm <latch> six credits of <{><[>that and choose</[> roman or
      greek history <latch>

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      <[><?>and i wanted to</?></[></{>

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      so you can actually choose between the two <latch>

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      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1005:CD>
      oh that's good yeah

  <WSC#DGZ069:1010:CD>
      and do you know whether they study um classical or actual rather
      than the the plays of the time and the <{><[><?>and</?> the
      poetry of the time</[>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1015:SL>
      <[><O>tut</O> um i think</[></{> you've got four classics
      courses <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1020:CD>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1025:SL>
      there's um a roman social history and a greek society and
      <latch>

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      right <latch> literature i think and culture

  <WSC#DGZ069:1035:SL>
      then there is a greek literature course <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1040:CD>
      mhm <latch> and a greek ART course <latch>

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      right <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1050:SL>
      so you can choose whichever area <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      you're particularly interested <{><[>in</[>

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      <[><?>i'll look</[></{> at the</?> roman history yeah <latch>

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      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1075:CD>
      yeah okay that <{><[>sounds <?>like a</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1080:SL>
      <[>yes if</[></{> you're interested in history you could choose
      one of <{><[>those</[> history sort of options

  <WSC#DGZ069:1085:SL>
      if the second year you did aNOTHer classics course <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1090:CD>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1095:CD>
      yeah <latch> from TWO history classics courses <{><[>you</[> can
      go on and <&>8:00</&> do second year history <latch>

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1105:CD>
      oh okay <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1110:SL>
      so <.>i</.> it covers <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1115:CD>
      yeah <latch> your first year history prerequisite <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1120:CD>
      okay <{><[>okay</[>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1125:SL>
      <[>so</[></{> that's probably the best um sort of way

  <WSC#DGZ069:1130:SL>
      if you're if you're interested in history or <{1><[1>greek</[1>
      and roman <{2><[2>history</[2> CHOOSE one <{3><[3>of those</[3>
      and the nice thing is that information systems is offered twice
      <{4><[4><,>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1135:SL>
      so</[4> whichever half of the year say that roman social history
      is offered <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1140:CD>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1145:CD>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1150:CD>
      <[3>okay</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1155:CD>
      <[4><O>tut</O> okay</[4></{4>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1160:CD>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ069:1165:SL>
      you could do info in the other half

  <WSC#DGZ069:1170:SL>
      <{1><[1>mm</[1> sometimes it doesn't work out too well you get
      <{2><[2>landed</[2> with HAVing to do greek <{3><[3>um</[3>
      history because <.>y</.> <.>y</.> your whole balance of your
      course <{4><[4>fits</[4> better that way

  <WSC#DGZ069:1175:SL>
      but in your case you can choose <{5><[5>mm</[5>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1180:SL>
      that's good

  <WSC#DGZ069:1185:CD>
      <[1>okay</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1190:CD>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1195:CD>
      <[3>mm</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1200:CD>
      <[4>yeah</[4></{4>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1205:CD>
      <[5>excellent</[5></{5>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1210:CD>
      so assuming that i er manage to <.>g</.> get the b average <{1><[1>i</[1>
      could switch over now

  <WSC#DGZ069:1215:CD>
      <{2><[2>if i if i</[2> didn't for some reason say if if um one
      area <O>voc</O> i failed in and the average didn't quite pan
      <{3><[3>out</[3> er what can i look at as far as b a <{4><[4>options
      were concerned <unclear>word</unclear></[4>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1220:SL>
      <[1>mhm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1225:SL>
      <[2>IF <,> mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1230:SL>
      <[3>mm</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1235:SL>
      <[4>right <,> well i</[4></{4>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1240:SL>
      well i always <drawls>say</drawls> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1245:CD>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1250:SL>
      that <.>th</.> <&>9:00</&> the course that we've been talking
      about is very good basis for a commerce degree <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1255:CD>
      yeah <latch> but unfortunately it's NOT such a good basis <{><[>for
      a</[> b a degree <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1260:CD>
      <[>for a b a</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1265:CD>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1270:SL>
      and that's the the um dilemma you really face <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1275:CD>
      mhm <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1280:SL>
      er you've got to probably in your situation go for your best um
      first choice <{1><[1><,> which</[1> is to get into that commerce
      degree <{2><[2>and</[2> move straight into second year commerce
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1285:CD>
      <[1>right</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1290:CD>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1295:CD>
      okay <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1300:SL>
      er but you should plan a little bit for a contingency <{><[>if</[>
      you don't get into <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1305:CD>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1310:CD>
      that's right <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1315:SL>
      the <.>th</.> that <{><[>um</[>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1320:CD>
      <[>cos</[></{> i understand that MOST <{1><[1>of</[1> the most
      of the commerce er degree er papers are actually also b a <{2><[2><,>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1325:CD>
      <?>so i could</?> yeah</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1330:SL>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1335:SL>
      <[2>mm you can do a lot</[2></{2> especially in the marketing
      and management <{1><[1>area</[1> which sounds as if it's what
      you're thinking <{2><[2>of</[2>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1340:CD>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1345:CD>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2> yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1350:SL>
      so yes you can plan it the real difficulty comes in deciding on
      a major

  <WSC#DGZ069:1355:CD>
      right and that's in the second year

  <WSC#DGZ069:1360:SL>
      well you'll have to <.>s</.> <.>s</.> <O>voc</O> er specify one
      in your first year <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1365:CD>
      okay

  <WSC#DGZ069:1370:SL>
      but you can <laughs>change it</laughs> <latch> <&>10:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1375:CD>
      yeah now now <.>how</.> the way i understand er you correct me
      if i'm wrong is um if <.>y</.> you take two papers in one
      particular subject and that becomes your major

  <WSC#DGZ069:1380:CD>
      is that correct

  <WSC#DGZ069:1385:SL>
      um

  <WSC#DGZ069:1390:CD>
      or <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ069:1395:SL>
      <.>n</.> not not altogether

  <WSC#DGZ069:1400:SL>
      your major is going to be the one that you fulfil certain rules
      that are spelt out by the department

  <WSC#DGZ069:1405:CD>
      right <&>10:18</&>
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