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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>6:26</&>
  

  <WSC#DGZ079:0005:LN>
      i'm sure some of <?>this</?> is from him <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0010:ML>
      <?>afraid not</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0015:LN>
      okay um well all my updates are done apart from topic and
      <unclear>word</unclear> which i'm having to redo cos one of
      disks was <?>screwed</?> grant rang me up i mean kevin rang up
      today so that's just about done

  <WSC#DGZ079:0020:LN>
      um i'm working on the bulletin um

  <WSC#DGZ079:0025:LN>
      apparently i have a huge lot of cases somewhere um and
      building's fine as far as i know resource is fine

  <WSC#DGZ079:0030:LN>
      there's not really a lot i can say about resources as i don't
      really know now <unclear>word</unclear> <?>yet</?> so i guess
      i'll find that out this week

  <WSC#DGZ079:0035:ML>
      <?>well um</?> when you say you got a huge lot of cases this is
      it in <&>tape noise</&> <?>case bulletin</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0040:LN>
      no no just this backlog of old cases isn't it sal? <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0045:SA>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0050:LN>
      once we've <?>immersed ourself in</?> <,> and they're coming
      through production and <&>7:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0055:ML>
      how much have you <O>voc</O> have you got <O>voc</O> much stuff
      to go into the bulletin

  <WSC#DGZ079:0060:LN>
      um there's ten cases this week <{><[>and</[> quite a few
      articles

  <WSC#DGZ079:0065:ML>
      <[><?>so there's</?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0070:ML>
      so there's ten new cases?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0075:LN>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:0080:ML>
      okay

  <WSC#DGZ079:0085:ML>
      what's the backlog look like sal

  <WSC#DGZ079:0090:SA>
      um it's in two lots the first lot er um a selection of mainly
      court of appeal and high court decisions which are only
      headnoted i discovered so they have to go in full text

  <WSC#DGZ079:0095:SA>
      they have the first priority and then the second pile is just
      old cases just for a reference and they are not actually that
      important

  <WSC#DGZ079:0100:SA>
      they can sort of be staggered out over the next few months

  <WSC#DGZ079:0105:SA>
      <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0110:SA>
      but the headnoted ones have to go in

  <WSC#DGZ079:0115:ML>
      <[>okay</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0120:ML>
      okay and they are in production now <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0125:SA>
      they're in production now

  <WSC#DGZ079:0130:SA>
      carrie's got them in separate files yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:0135:ML>
      and and there's about thirty all up

  <WSC#DGZ079:0140:SA>
      <loudly>oh</loudly> in terms of the headnoted ones i don't think
      there'd be about thirty

  <WSC#DGZ079:0145:SA>
      i mean it's a pile about that high <,> in terms of the content
      <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0150:SA>
      some of it is fairly lengthy <?>which is</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0155:ML>
      ah well <?>i mean</?> what we've got to do with <.>an</.>
      <&>8:00</&> any sort of find out how much is in production <{><[>and</[>
      and what the absolute priorities are because i mean jean's gonna
      tell us that her heap to go

  <WSC#DGZ079:0160:SA>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0165:SA>
      mm <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0170:ML>
      and robert's got some as well <,> and there might be some cases
      i don't know <unclear>word</unclear> <?>the case <,> you know</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0175:LN>
      see if it's at the <?>health and safety's going on building this
      month</?> but that's already through production so <,> um
      basically it'll be resource i'm focusing on

  <WSC#DGZ079:0180:X1>
      have you got ledge <&>ie legislation</&> coming through <{><[>brian
      <,> no?</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0185:CR>
      <[><O>coughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0190:CR>
      <O>coughs</O> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0195:ML>
      all right um and and there's nothing sort of major happening
      with the act or anything like that there's only cases <{><[><?>where</[>
      there r m a?</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0200:LN>
      <[>no</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0205:LN>
      no nothing happening there as far as i know

  <WSC#DGZ079:0210:LN>
      the report of the planning tribunal's come out so that's going
      in

  <WSC#DGZ079:0215:LN>
      we're gonna start putting those in on the database <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0220:LN>
      that's all

  <WSC#DGZ079:0225:LN>
      the only other thing is that during update this month i'll
      <&>9:00</&> be a little frantic because there's two conferences
      on between the sixth and the eighth so i'll probably start my
      update quite early <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0230:GT>
      these conferences are here in

  <WSC#DGZ079:0235:SA>
      wellington yep

  <WSC#DGZ079:0240:SA>
      building conference on the sixth and seventh and r m conference
      <&>noise</&> the seventh and eighth

  <WSC#DGZ079:0245:ML>
      okay <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0250:GT>
      <drawls>um</drawls> <,,><&>4</&> and bulletin's <?>okay?</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0255:LN>
      resource bulletins?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0260:GT>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:0265:LN>
      oh i'm getting the hang of them <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0270:GT>
      now <drawls>um</drawls> have you guys had anymore <,>
      difficulties with <drawls>um</drawls> the <?>winfax</?> at all

  <WSC#DGZ079:0275:LN>
      um well we haven't had one go out since last week's ones and
      that was so difficult the <{><[>one from the last job</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0280:GT>
      <[>the last <unclear>word</unclear></[></{> cos the <{1><[1>cables
      were <&>10:00</&> the wrong way round</[1> <{2><[2>wasn't</[2>
      it

  <WSC#DGZ079:0285:SA>
      <[1>cables were the wrong way round</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0290:LN>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0295:LN>
      so um so i don't know as yet whether we've had any problems or
      not

  <WSC#DGZ079:0300:RB>
      is that the problem that we had was only um a <?>line it wasn't
      a part <{><[>being in</[> right hole though was it</?> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0305:LN>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0310:LN>
      <quietly>yeah</quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0315:SA>
      yeah once that <?>was</?> sorted out it was fine

  <WSC#DGZ079:0320:SA>
      except what's that other fax is that an <?>email thing</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0325:GT>
      um yeah i think so i'm not sure <,> exactly what it does <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0330:GT>
      okay <,> um <,> jean

  <WSC#DGZ079:0335:X1>
      well we're in the middle of photocopying out these <.>c</.> tax
      cases to bring everything from ninety one up to ninety four in
      so that we got all the cases <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0340:X1>
      what are we <.>ar</.> like on ninety four yet

  <WSC#DGZ079:0345:X1>
      do you know sal

  <WSC#DGZ079:0350:SA>
      yeah i've done ninety four

  <WSC#DGZ079:0355:SA>
      we start um eight missing from ninety four

  <WSC#DGZ079:0360:X1>
      right so what does that bring our total to

  <WSC#DGZ079:0365:SA>
      sixty?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0370:SA>
      approximately

  <WSC#DGZ079:0375:X1>
      sixty tax cases to go in to bring us so that we've got
      everything from ninety one up to and including ninety four on
      <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0380:ML>
      <softly><?>form tax</?></softly> <,> from <?>high court</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear> still doesn't guarantee us <?>b r s</?>
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0385:RB>
      no <unclear>word</unclear> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0390:SA>
      this is just going through <,> these and digging out the ones
      we're missing from here

  <WSC#DGZ079:0395:ML>
      mm

  <WSC#DGZ079:0400:LN>
      so we might need to go through the blue ones from matt's as well

  <WSC#DGZ079:0405:X1>
      <drawls>right</drawls>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0410:ML>
      you need to check that out as your next task <?>sal just to</?>
      make sure that we've got <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0415:RB>
      well that's why you've got er <?><&>name</&></?> to do is to um
      carry on with <unclear>word</unclear> <?>indexes and completing</?>
      the tax library

  <WSC#DGZ079:0420:LN>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0425:RB>
      um and carry on writing up your <?>current</?> references your
      crossreferences <?>too</?> too far worse er policies <?>the
      other ones they need probably won't have to do the full</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>cases</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0430:LN>
      that's that blue folder that jim showed you

  <WSC#DGZ079:0435:LN>
      <{><[>sal</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0440:SA>
      <[>yep</[></{> yeah i've got that

  <WSC#DGZ079:0445:RB>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <{><[>and</[> also to get copy <unclear>word</unclear>
      on butterworth's <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0450:GT>
      <[>um</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0455:ML>
      money

  <WSC#DGZ079:0460:RB>
      yeah money <unclear>word</unclear> <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0465:ML>
      even better

  <WSC#DGZ079:0470:SA>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0475:LN>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0480:RB>
      oh um so the the <?>bulletin</?> seventeen <?>is</?>
      butterworth's and brought out one that i think got's all the
      citations <?>in it as well so <{><[>you'll want</[> to look at
      that</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0485:CR>
      <[>okay</[></{> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0490:GT>
      the copy you're working on how good is it for the photocopiers

  <WSC#DGZ079:0495:X1>
      er i've blown it all up to a four

  <WSC#DGZ079:0500:X1>
      it's pretty good

  <WSC#DGZ079:0505:X1>
      did c c h scan from blownup photocopy

  <WSC#DGZ079:0510:X1>
      they do <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0515:X1>
      <drawls>well</drawls> yeah the photocopy quality looks pretty
      good

  <WSC#DGZ079:0520:GT>
      okay <drawls>um</drawls> <,> well <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0525:GT>
      let's say tomorrow afternoon <drawls>um</drawls> <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0530:GT>
      just trying to figure out <?>really</?> there's no point just in
      sticking the scanner back out into production <&>13:00</&>
      unless we stick it on your machine <?>cos the other the other
      one out there is grind to a halt with</?> that new software

  <WSC#DGZ079:0535:GT>
      you know it's really GOOD but er it needs a a class er four
      machine to run it

  <WSC#DGZ079:0540:CR>
      still got the colour <.>one</.> the other colour one won't run
      it?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0545:GT>
      oh it'll run it

  <WSC#DGZ079:0550:GT>
      it'll just be very very slow

  <WSC#DGZ079:0555:RB>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <&>telephone conversation going on in
      background not transcribed</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0560:ML>
      really need to put that <unclear>word</unclear> with the new
      software with the new software <,> but <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0565:GT>
      so <drawls>um</drawls> sometime tomorrow afternoon um i wonder
      if we shouldn't get someone to sit down and play around by using
      that software on one of the machines so that IF my machine's
      available <?>so that we can do it on</?> <unclear>word</unclear>
      <,> or we can <?>real</?> pull the <?>cord</?> and plug it in
      somewhere else so that the scanner's available

  <WSC#DGZ079:0570:RB>
      yeah <?>oh that's a good idea</?> <&>14:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0575:ML>
      <?>i take it you</?> stick it in <?>a</?> four eight six

  <WSC#DGZ079:0580:RB>
      well unless we um <?>get a decent</?> four eight six

  <WSC#DGZ079:0585:??>
      <?>can you do it on a four eight six</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0590:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>my four eight six</?> unless well
      it's an hour a day scanning at the end of the day i suppose

  <WSC#DGZ079:0595:ML>
      yeah i mean there is that isn't there

  <WSC#DGZ079:0600:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0605:GT>
      <?>well</?> shall we do that

  <WSC#DGZ079:0610:CR>
      no it'd be better on mine than <?>on</?> yours <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0615:ML>
      yeah <,> yeah i think <?>we'll</?> do that in the morning

  <WSC#DGZ079:0620:GT>
      okay

  <WSC#DGZ079:0625:ML>
      bring it across to there so then <.>wh</.> who can <?>try it out</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0630:GT>
      <drawls>um</drawls>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0635:CR>
      me

  <WSC#DGZ079:0640:GT>
      <?>well</?> carrie to start with but um <?>should</?> distribute
      those sorts of skills as widely as possible <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0645:GT>
      so if i get carrie up to speed with that new stuff <,> the new
      software <,> <O>tut</O> um and then you can get production
      people up to speed with it and also <drawls>um</drawls> you know
      <&>15:00</&> once that's done er so distribute the skills
      through the editorial people as well <,> so IF the machine is
      available um and the editors sort of need something done <,> <?>they
      can go</?> on and get it done <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0650:ML>
      to put put it in its context these sixty cases represent what a
      couple <?>of</?> hundred pages <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0655:X1>
      <drawls>yep</drawls> how many have we got there

  <WSC#DGZ079:0660:X1>
      any idea

  <WSC#DGZ079:0665:SA>
      that's <drawls>twenty</drawls> <,> four

  <WSC#DGZ079:0670:X1>
      yeah nineteen ninety three isn't so bad

  <WSC#DGZ079:0675:X1>
      there were a couple of large ones in there and they were pretty
      small <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0680:X1>
      i haven't started copying ninety two yet

  <WSC#DGZ079:0685:ML>
      what's this what's the sort of scanning speed of it <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0690:X1>
      but ninety two going to be a similar sort of <{><[>pile to that
      one</[> isn't it

  <WSC#DGZ079:0695:GT>
      <[><drawls>um</drawls></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0700:GT>
      <?>let's see</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0705:RB>
      <?>i don't know</?> it's only a few seconds a page <?>ten
      seconds</?> um

  <WSC#DGZ079:0710:GT>
      yeah for the to get the image up

  <WSC#DGZ079:0715:GT>
      um you'd be <&>16:00</&> doing about <,> i mean <.>if</.> when
      everything's optimised on my machine you'll probably be doing
      about a page a minute

  <WSC#DGZ079:0720:GT>
      <drawls>er</drawls> carrie's which is faster you'd probably get
      that up higher but um the critical thing is er number one the
      print quality of what you're scanning and number <{><[>two</[>
      you get the copy as close as possible to dead straight on the
      glass <,,> okay <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0725:GT>
      anything else <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0730:GT>
      tax four?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0735:SA>
      <[><O>clears throat</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0740:ML>
      so so just to put that into context <.>w</.> with that scanner
      running on a four eight six <,> we can move those reasonably
      quickly those cases

  <WSC#DGZ079:0745:GT>
      yep

  <WSC#DGZ079:0750:ML>
      <?>so</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0755:GT>
      yeah you should be able to get basic good <,> most of the way
      clean text out of it at a rate of <{><[>about</[> a page a
      minute

  <WSC#DGZ079:0760:X1>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0765:X1>
      what's the feeling on which way should we approach this from
      ninety one forward? ninety <&>17:00</&> four BACKwards?

  <WSC#DGZ079:0770:RB>
      <{><[>ninety four back</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0775:ML>
      <[>ninety four backwards</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0780:X1>
      right

  <WSC#DGZ079:0785:ML>
      ninety four backwards um <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0790:ML>
      so then the then the the big job from then is <.>j</.> is
      proofing

  <WSC#DGZ079:0795:GT>
      yeah but i mean again assuming that everything's um optimal the
      degree of proofing required out of it is er pretty um marginal
      because one of the things with that type of reader is that
      having scanned and o c red <&>ie checked using o c r software</&>
      you can then go through and pick up on all of the characters it
      thought were questionable that it wasn't sure of <,> um and just
      get it up to <,> pretty close to a hundred percent quick spell
      check in word to catch anything that it THOUGHT it was sure of
      when it was actually wrong and then um straight into a final
      read <,> um <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0800:GT>
      so it can be fairly quick <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0805:GT>
      the only things that are gonna hold <&>18:00</&> it back are
      number one <,> the print quality of what it's scanning and
      number two <,> um how straight the material is on the glass <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0810:GT>
      anything else about the scanning <?>or the tax four</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0815:ML>
      so can we be looking at sixty cases for this month

  <WSC#DGZ079:0820:GT>
      <drawls>um</drawls> <,> <O>tut</O> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0825:SA>
      no that's <{><[>all</[> catching up as well

  <WSC#DGZ079:0830:SA>
      it's not current stuff

  <WSC#DGZ079:0835:GT>
      <[><?>just</?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0840:ML>
      i appreciate <{><[>that</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0845:SA>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0850:CR>
      and it's not and it's tax only

  <WSC#DGZ079:0855:CR>
      it's not anything of lana's

  <WSC#DGZ079:0860:ML>
      i appreciate that

  <WSC#DGZ079:0865:GT>
      okay i'd say that <drawls>er</drawls>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0870:ML>
      yeah i mean we've just described scanning at at about a page a
      minute <,> and we're talking about two hundred pages there <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0875:ML>
      so you know extrapolating that

  <WSC#DGZ079:0880:CR>
      <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0885:GT>
      <[>yeah</[></{> so that that gets us the clean text <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0890:ML>
      that gets you the clean text in a day

  <WSC#DGZ079:0895:GT>
      er not oh cleanish text it still <{><[>needs</[> proofing

  <WSC#DGZ079:0900:ML>
      <[>in a day</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0905:ML>
      yeah <&>19:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0910:GT>
      but er in a full day of doing nothing BUT scanning um you could
      probably <,> knock off well you could knock off a couple of
      hundred pages scanning then onto proofing <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0915:CR>
      yeah <.>i</.> somebody could if the machine was available for a
      day <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0920:GT>
      oh yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:0925:CR>
      <?>once it's done</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <,,><&>6</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0930:RB>
      see the other thing is that <?>it can recognise</?> on other
      machines then there's you know there's still time for reading on
      the other four machines to scan the images blow up <?>the images
      and even</?> the editors themselves could actually start
      something recognition without actually being connected to the
      scanner <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0935:RB>
      <?>so we're actually able to spread some of our</?> <unclear>word</unclear>
      <?>out</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0940:GT>
      yeah that's a <{><[>possibility</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0945:X1>
      <[>well</[></{> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0950:ML>
      this being what you were doing with <{><[>macintoshes</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0955:RB>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0960:X1>
      <[>mm</[></{> i could do some saturdays and stuff because i
      imagine like <&>20:00</&> when my thesis mark <,> comes back
      through i'm gonna have to take some time off to <,> sort out
      some of that so i wouldn't mind building up some extra hours
      there

  <WSC#DGZ079:0965:GT>
      okay well let's let's run a trial program then um with bulk
      scanning for just images <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0970:GT>
      install the <drawls>um</drawls> you know stripped down version
      of the software on editorial machines and er see what sort of
      efficiency we can get <?>by</?> just get the images done and
      bring them out here but <?>at the o c r but <{><[>for</[>
      checking</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0975:ML>
      <[>i mean</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0980:ML>
      on that on that basis you know really over you know an hour a
      night for just three or four nights you'd get most of it in

  <WSC#DGZ079:0985:ML>
      it's just bulk scanning and then <?>if jean does it</?>
      <,,><&>6</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0990:ML>
      <?>i mean</?> we've got <.>to</.> to push the production er
      <&>21:00</&> side as hard as possible because it's better to <?>give
      it to absolute proofing</?> er you know and they have better
      resources <?>and that sort of thing than we do</?> and that's
      exactly what <unclear>word</unclear> <?>do</?> scanning and
      stuff <unclear>word</unclear> <?>whacking them in in huge
      quantities</?> so <?>you know we've got to set ourselves some</?>
      pretty impressive targets in terms of the number of cases <?>which
      you get in</?> tax in terms of the number of cases and the
      number of <?>t e rs we have and</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:0995:GT>
      okay we got any more to talk about with scanning and cases?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1000:LN>
      if there's anything that needs to be picked up from varsity that
      i guess it's a case of putting that book back into operation sal
      so just scribble anything in the <?>grad</?> book and i'll do it
      when i'm up there <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1005:GT>
      okay <,> <O>tut</O> next sal <&>22:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1010:SA>
      um <,,> nothing really

  <WSC#DGZ079:1015:SA>
      the um oh a couple of these tax law went through third and final
      reading on the sixth of september <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1020:SA>
      um that was the second reading of the bill that we put in the
      last update so we might get that through soon but there's no
      major changes in that um

  <WSC#DGZ079:1025:GT>
      are third reading bills available to us that is

  <WSC#DGZ079:1030:GT>
      have we checked that out at all

  <WSC#DGZ079:1035:SA>
      <?>no</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?><.>i</.> just see how</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>that looks</?> um <O>exhales</O>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1040:SA>
      got a tax fax bills are going out this week so <?>that's</?>
      three cases for it <?>three cases for it</?> and then that's
      about it <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1045:SA>
      oh b r s were we <,> <{><[>having that?</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1050:GT>
      <[><?>is our work</?></[></{> continuing to supply the b r s <{><[>updates</[>
      to law link for tax <,> we're not?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1055:RB>
      <[><O>coughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1060:ML>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1065:GT>
      okay <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1070:SA>
      <O>clears throat</O>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1075:ML>
      <?>not when we</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>go</?>
      <&>23:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1080:SA>
      <?>jean has</?> just that topic <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1085:GT>
      er <{><[>so that's</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1090:SA>
      <[>and there's</[></{> <unclear>word</unclear> needs to be done

  <WSC#DGZ079:1095:GT>
      topic <?>images</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1100:LN>
      should i have done the b r s update for building

  <WSC#DGZ079:1105:GT>
      <quietly>no</quietly>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1110:LN>
      <quietly><?>thank goodness</?></quietly> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1115:ML>
      <[>so so what's the</[></{> the push of your work then <unclear>word</unclear>
      <?>seated in the chair</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1120:SA>
      i wouldn't actually say i had <?>myself seated in the chair yet</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1125:SA>
      i spent last week doing the update

  <WSC#DGZ079:1130:ML>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1135:SA>
      and i'll spend the next couple of days having a look to see what
      i actually have around the desk and then onto the other
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1140:SA>
      um today i've just been working through the tax cases to get <{><[>jean
      jean</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1145:ML>
      <[>sure yeah</[></{> yeah i mean

  <WSC#DGZ079:1150:SA>
      and then it'll be the bulletin and then after i've got that out
      <?>we'll go from there</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1155:ML>
      all right

  <WSC#DGZ079:1160:ML>
      well perhaps you and i can talk at that stage <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1165:SA>
      yep <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1170:ML>
      once you get to there <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1175:SA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:1180:ML>
      and decide where we're going

  <WSC#DGZ079:1185:SA>
      mm <,> you going <unclear>word</unclear> grant? <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1190:ML>
      i think it was just on and just on that you <&>24:00</&> know my
      priority <,> for for tax one is to get er as much case <,> <?>and
      once it has references the</?> case citation as possible <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1195:SA>
      is <.>that</.> <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1200:ML>
      right <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1205:SA>
      yep

  <WSC#DGZ079:1210:ML>
      so that you know as exactly the same as the as the er <,> er the
      pibs

  <WSC#DGZ079:1215:ML>
      we were saying at least we could do a search of something if we
      haven't got it we take a <?>word estimate out of the text</?>
      <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1220:SA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:1225:ML>
      <.>a</.> and that's the area we were missing is is all those
      cases <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1230:ML>
      so i mean i think the first thing to do is to get all this case
      citations into tax one <,> sitting under the sections <{1><[1>and
      then having got that</[1> go back through and start <{2><[2>referencing</[2>
      as we start getting them in the full text so and you know it's
      gonna be quite a a big job to catch up to where jean needs to
      <?>if she's gonna</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1235:SA>
      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1240:SA>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1245:SA>
      oh shit yeah <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1250:ML>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1255:RB>
      <[>and the other thing was</[></{> <&>25:00</&> that er the way
      i look at the these databases <unclear>word</unclear> citations
      <?>and everything else and mark them up on</?> the different
      databases you're using at the moment <?>gives access to to be
      able to</?> sort all the <unclear>word</unclear> at the same
      time you might just <?>pull out all the files really to see</?>
      whether that might be appropriate for the <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1260:SA>
      <[>much like</[></{> how we do our patch <?>documents</?> for
      <{><[><?>welfare</?></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1265:RB>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <?>for <.>m</.></?> er grant and i managed to
      automate the process for that <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>
      <?>well i'm not saying all the pages</?> but certainly just <?><.>h</.>
      helping me through the</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1270:SA>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1275:GT>
      <quietly><?>no that's not quite clear</?></quietly> <,,><&>3</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1280:SA>
      that would be good

  <WSC#DGZ079:1285:GT>
      um <,> <O>tut</O> anything else tax oneish <{><[>who's now</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1290:GT>
      doing tax two as well now or?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1295:SA>
      <[>not from me</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1300:SA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DGZ079:1305:GT>
      anything happening there?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1310:SA>
      i haven't even got it on my machine yet so i don't know <{><[>if</[>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1315:LN>
      <[><?>nah don't</?></[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1320:LN>
      <?>i had</?> last month i went through and checked <&>26:00</&>
      out any g s t cases we were missing from c c h so we should be
      fully uptodate now

  <WSC#DGZ079:1325:ML>
      how many

  <WSC#DGZ079:1330:LN>
      about eight

  <WSC#DGZ079:1335:ML>
      yeah okay

  <WSC#DGZ079:1340:LN>
      they're all pretty weenie

  <WSC#DGZ079:1345:ML>
      <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1350:SA>
      <[>that's</[></{> that's good <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1355:X1>
      good <{><[>find</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1360:SA>
      <[>thanks</[></{> for doing that lana

  <WSC#DGZ079:1365:LN>
      no that's okay

  <WSC#DGZ079:1370:LN>
      had to have something to put me up to <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1375:ML>
      um now what about um other development <.>e</.> work in that
      area like um those er minor acts we were putting on like stamp
      cheque and

  <WSC#DGZ079:1380:LN>
      you mean the cases for stamp and cheque

  <WSC#DGZ079:1385:ML>
      no no <{1><[1>just</[1> all the all the ledge <&>ie legislation</&>
      <{2><[2><unclear>word</unclear></[2>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1390:LN>
      <[1>all the</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1395:LN>
      <[2>all the ledge <&>ie legislation</&> is on except the only
      one</[2></{2> we didn't end up putting on was the <{><[>a c c</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1400:ML>
      <[>a c c</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1405:ML>
      well that's fine that doesn't <{><[>matter</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1410:LN>
      <[>and that's</[></{> the old a c c act <?>the act the act
      itself so</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1415:ML>
      so we just sit on that so everything else is in

  <WSC#DGZ079:1420:LN>
      yep <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1425:GT>
      anything else sal <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1430:GT>
      <?>now</?> carrie

  <WSC#DGZ079:1435:CR>
      um i haven't got much to say really

  <WSC#DGZ079:1440:CR>
      tax three's <&>27:00</&> struggling along <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1445:CR>
      it's just <?>you know with that big push there aren't</?> as
      many t e os <?>and we're</?> keeping up the chapters and tibs
      <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1450:CR>
      <drawls><.>s</.></drawls> <?>we'll sew</?> that up

  <WSC#DGZ079:1455:ML>
      is paula still working on all those t e os

  <WSC#DGZ079:1460:SA>
      how's <?>she going on them</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1465:CR>
      well she's not

  <WSC#DGZ079:1470:CR>
      she just does <?>the text</?> <unclear>word</unclear> tidying up

  <WSC#DGZ079:1475:SA>
      any chance of getting <?>them</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1480:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>managed a temporary</?> <unclear>word</unclear>
      <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1485:CR>
      the tables are CRAP i mean it's just <?>bloody useless</?> <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1490:CR>
      so pushing them as hard as i can

  <WSC#DGZ079:1495:CR>
      i looked at the <O>laughs</O> <unclear>word</unclear> we're got
      one of hugh's in there

  <WSC#DGZ079:1500:CR>
      i wanted to show him probably before the <,> the next update
      <&>28:00</&> <,> and that's like a hundred pages of tables <O>exhales</O>
      <O>tut</O> <?>it's</?> table after table after table you know so
      i DOUBT very much whether we'll get those in <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1505:CR>
      i'll have to skip whatever <unclear>word</unclear> <laughs><?>to
      three in one huh</?></laughs> but <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1510:CR>
      so no i'm just plodding along really <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1515:GT>
      um <,> <?>just so i'm counting</?> a lot of flow charts and
      image chart things in that stuff

  <WSC#DGZ079:1520:CR>
      oh <unclear>word</unclear> something <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1525:RB>
      <?>till he started taking</?> <unclear>word</unclear> what do
      you want to do

  <WSC#DGZ079:1530:RB>
      do you want to start catching up <?>bringing those in</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1535:CR>
      no i'd rather get the rest of it out <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1540:ML>
      <?>or you can just</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1545:RB>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1550:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1555:RB>
      the way those images are like <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1560:SA>
      those ones?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1565:SA>
      they're actually tax one <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1570:SA>
      the discussion document <,,> <&>29:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1575:GT>
      <{><[>okay</[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1580:ML>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> is there anything we can do
      to speed up those <?>t e os</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1585:RB>
      i mean <.>w</.> maybe we should try um <latch>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1590:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>there's noone out the back</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1595:RB>
      short of trying trying out you know the <unclear>word</unclear>
      <?>advanced ware</?> software that might be faster <?>than the
      um wrap</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1600:CR>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>scan</?> i've got that on disk

  <WSC#DGZ079:1605:ML>
      and it's still taking <unclear>word</unclear> <?>we're</?> gonna
      have trouble <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1610:ML>
      <?>well now some of it's really</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1615:CR>
      mm <?>because really really</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1620:CR>
      and paula does all the tidying up for me <unclear>word</unclear>
      <?>and i was just about tearing my hair <laughs>out</laughs></?>
      <&>30:00</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1625:ML>
      well i mean is it going to be quicker if we start looking at
      those <,> images er

  <WSC#DGZ079:1630:GT>
      before the tables or the flow charts and stuff?

  <WSC#DGZ079:1635:ML>
      <?>well both</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1640:RB>
      i was actually thinking no because by <{><[><?>the time</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1645:ML>
      <[>i mean if carrie's spending all</[></{> this time <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[>
      cleaning up those <?>can we use them</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1650:GT>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1655:RB>
      it might be easier for example to extrapolate all of the
      material that's in the tables all <?>of the unique words the
      actual current</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>table instead of
      the actual table and then just taking in</?> the image of the
      table <unclear>word</unclear> that image

  <WSC#DGZ079:1660:GT>
      yeah i mean the way that we're doing tables now it's um <,>
      clumsy and a pain in the arse but um <,> with the things like
      you know if you've got tables that you change <,> um <,> er with
      er <&>31:00</&> relatively good size <?>passage of</?> text in
      the cell i e a couple of lines of text <O>tut</O> er <,> i don't
      know

  <WSC#DGZ079:1665:GT>
      i still think it's worth having it all fully indexed <?>in there</?>
      so that phrase searches and so on will take you right there <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1670:GT>
      <?>and there's</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>stand a chance</?>
      of getting you right there <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1675:GT>
      but um <,,> yeah i'm going to have to revise our practices with
      tables somehow <,,><&>5</&>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1680:X2>
      <?>well keyword can move the software from the er you know six</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>for retracting the tables</?>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1685:GT>
      no cos it's still nothing that we've got here <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1690:GT>
      er there's nothing that i know of in new zealand <{><[>that'll</[>
      do tables properly <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1695:GT>
      no

  <WSC#DGZ079:1700:GT>
      um even if there was er we're still saddled with <&>32:00</&>
      clients that are using stuff that doesn't do it <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1705:X2>
      <[>oh</[></{>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1710:ML>
      well you know the current rate of progress it's gonna be take us
      six months <,> to get these t e os <?>in that are left</?> and
      you know that's without any of the downtime as far as carrie's
      concerned <,,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1715:GT>
      the tables are all there in the t e os <,> you mean in the <.>fi</.>
      in the stuff you've got on disk <,>

  <WSC#DGZ079:1720:GT>
      <drawls>um</drawls> the files that you've got on disk er they're
      flat ascii or are they <&>32:40</&> <&>end of side one</&>
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