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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>11:56</&>
  

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      i'm supposed to go for a run this afternoon but i don't think
      i'll have time

  <WSC#DPC179:0010:MA>
      running you poor thing

  <WSC#DPC179:0015:FA>
      it's good for you

  <WSC#DPC179:0020:FA>
      i quite enjoy running

  <WSC#DPC179:0025:MA>
      yuk <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC179:0030:MA>
      my brother's into running now

  <WSC#DPC179:0035:MA>
      poor little sod

  <WSC#DPC179:0040:FA>
      mm <,,> mm

  <WSC#DPC179:0045:MA>
      if i want to hurt myself i go to the gym

  <WSC#DPC179:0050:XX>
      what gym do you go to

  <WSC#DPC179:0055:MA>
      evolution

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      and how often do you go

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      five days a week

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      in the mornings? <,,>

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      whenever

  <WSC#DPC179:0080:FA>
      like what kind of hours do you keep for your m a thesis like
      fulltime?

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      what's it on

  <WSC#DPC179:0090:MA>
      recreation and leisure

  <WSC#DPC179:0095:MA>
      yeah <O>tut</O> i mean i'm studying on top of classes about four
      or five hours a day

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      theoretically i am

  <WSC#DPC179:0105:MA>
      i am at the moment

  <WSC#DPC179:0110:MA>
      i'm doing about five or six

  <WSC#DPC179:0115:FA>
      so how many hours <.>a</.> a day do you have at varsity <,,>

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      two

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      every day?

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      except friday

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      mm

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      but then we might have assignments to mark and <&>13:00</&> <,>
      appointments to see people so i mean it varies

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      and so how many people are in doing the m a <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0150:MA>
      nine first years

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      nine

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      so what are you gonna do with it <,,>

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      take over the world

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      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0175:FA>
      <[>go to america and become rich</[></{> by the sounds of it

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      or japan

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      sounds like they need bloody leisure more than anyone else

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      mm

  <WSC#DPC179:0195:MA>
      i don't know <,,> <O>clears throat</O> <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0200:MA>
      it's actually changed me a lot this degree already

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      why

  <WSC#DPC179:0210:MA>
      i'm a lot more secure in myself than i used to be eh a lot more
      selfconfidence

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      why

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      from participating in leisure probably

  <WSC#DPC179:0225:MA>
      no

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      <O>laughs</O> <,> yeah

  <WSC#DPC179:0235:MA>
      no just <.>in</.> doing the course in situations

  <WSC#DPC179:0240:MA>
      i mean i if i had to go to an interview or what have you i'd be
      virtually SICK and in the toilet for several hours beforehand
      just with nerves like just seeing anyone now i don't care
      <&>14:00</&>

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      i just go and do it

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      it doesn't worry me

  <WSC#DPC179:0255:FA>
      <O>laughs</O> <.>w</.> <.>o</.> when did you start it

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      march

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      march

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      yeah and i mean also i mean <?>i've made a <.>few</.> like with
      the</?> maori thing

  <WSC#DPC179:0275:MA>
      i mean i've still got NO time for <?>political <.>correctness</.>
      political incorrectness is safe</?> but i appreciate things more
      now

  <WSC#DPC179:0280:FA>
      have you looked at issues relating to <,,> to land tenure or
      something?

  <WSC#DPC179:0285:MA>
      yeah that's part of our maori kind <.>of</.> that's the maori
      component of the course <O>coughs</O>

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      two compulsory three day <?>stop <.>o</.> stays</?> on
      <indig=Maori>marae</indig=Maori>

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      <{><[>mm</[>

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      <[>um</[></{> and three two hour seminars on maori culture and
      stuff

  <WSC#DPC179:0305:XX>
      i'd like to do that when i come back

  <WSC#DPC179:0310:FA>
      yeah <.>why</.> why is that part of your course

  <WSC#DPC179:0315:MA>
      if most of us will be working in new zealand you've got to
      understand the bicultural issue context <,,>

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      oh yeah

  <WSC#DPC179:0325:MA>
      don't sound so sceptical

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      <laughs><?>i <.>wa</.></?></laughs>

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      i think it's a really good idea <.>to</.> having it <&>15:00</&>

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      it's just that i kind of think <,,> um <latch>

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      well i mean <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0350:FA>
      <.>i</.> it should be a more inherent part of the course
      <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DPC179:0355:MA>
      well the thing is we're not <.>teachi</.> why <.>do</.> the way
      you you say THAT <?>it makes it sound like</?> we're teaching
      anglo saxon leisure <.>leis</.> leisure for wasps <{><[>and it's</[>
      not like that at all

  <WSC#DPC179:0360:MA>
      there's a component for social science research which i'm doing
      a component on social policy and of course there's a bicultural
      element in that but it's not overt

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      it's PART of the course

  <WSC#DPC179:0370:MA>
      there's a thing on LEISURE and that's theoretical leisure you
      know

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      what it is why people do it and biculturalism's got no place in
      that <?><.>as</.> except as um</?> reason for why different
      people do different things and then that's not boiled down to
      RACE <latch>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC179:0385:FA>
      what do you mean it's got no place in it

  <WSC#DPC179:0390:MA>
      i don't mean that it's not PART of it

  <WSC#DPC179:0395:MA>
      what i'm saying is that it's not the basis for it <,,><&>6</&>

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      mm

  <WSC#DPC179:0405:MA>
      i mean it's all very well all very politically correct to say
      that everything should contain um this er notions of women's
      suffrage and er race issues and everything because it's <.>politically</.>
      <&>pronounced politicary</&> politically correct thing to do at
      the time even if the subject um only has a minimum relevance to
      it unless things are encapsulated in the course rather than
      being overtly expressed

  <WSC#DPC179:0410:FA>
      well it's good they're there

  <WSC#DPC179:0415:FA>
      <{><[>i don't think</[> many people say you should do these
      things cos they're politically CORRECT

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      <[>oh yeah <unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC179:0425:MA>
      eh?

  <WSC#DPC179:0430:MA>
      oh i don't know

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      in some cases it's <{><[>true though</[>

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      <[>a lot</[></{> of people change their attitudes um because um
      it's not seen to be doing the correct thing like i mean i'm
      quite happy to admit to certain things that i've got NO bloody
      time for um <,> people like <.>chip</.> er <.>c</.> certain
      maori land claims that try and <.>take</.> um like the <.>mao</.>
      land claim a while back <.>saying</.> or the land claim trying
      to claim <&>17:00</&> the radio waves everything <,,>

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      did you hear about that at all

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      oh yeah i know quite a lot about it

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      <{><[>i mean</[>

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      <[>yeah</[></{> well i think there's <.>no</.> you can't bloody
      claim that at all

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      i mean that's <{><[>ridiculous</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0470:FA>
      <[>no <.>i</.> i</[></{> disagree completely <latch>

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      why <latch>

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      why not

  <WSC#DPC179:0485:FA>
      i mean inherent <.>in</.> in the treaty is the right of
      development <{1><[1><.>that</.></[1> that's been granted to the
      crown as well so why shouldn't maori have <{2><[2>it</[2>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2> no <.>i'm</.> that's not what i mean

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      that's the thing

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      there's a balance there <,,> that you <unclear>word</unclear>
      too busy are talking past each other

  <WSC#DPC179:0510:MA>
      i mean the waitangi tribunal's doing a lot to fix that which is
      good

  <WSC#DPC179:0515:FA>
      <.>what</.> what are you <.>saying</.> why do you disagree with
      the claim though

  <WSC#DPC179:0520:FA>
      what do you disagree about with

  <WSC#DPC179:0525:FA>
      i mean i <.>get</.> people <.>s</.> asking me this a lot of the
      time and they say how can people claim things that didn't exist

  <WSC#DPC179:0530:FA>
      virtually everything that is claimed now are claims that arose
      NOT from eighteen forty but from AFTER eighteen forty of course
      they were and <.>why</.> why are the airwaves any different

  <WSC#DPC179:0535:FA>
      i mean <,> <{1><[1><.>we're</.></[1> <.>the</.> the culture and
      treasures of maori custom were guaranteed to them under the
      treaty and i think ANYone has a right to <&>18:00</&>
      development

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      airwaves and media are really important in today's society

  <WSC#DPC179:0545:FA>
      it doesn't <{2><[2><?>strike me as a</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[2>

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      <[1>well</[1></{1>

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      <[2>i think it was the way that the <?>like the</?> claims</[2></{2>
      came across on the media <{><[>like</[>

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      <[>that's</[></{> the media's fault though

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      <{1><[1>that's</[1> REALLY bad media <{2><[2>representation</[2>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>that's true</[2></{2>

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      it's bad media representation BUT i didn't see anyone standing
      up and saying hey this is not what we meant

  <WSC#DPC179:0585:FA>
      <.>hey</.> <laughs>hey</laughs> you <.>should</.> you <.>should</.>
      okay WE did that with ngai tahu sea fisheries

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      there <.>were</.> <O>voc</O> <.>the</.> <.>the</.> <latch>

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      with what

  <WSC#DPC179:0600:MA>
      again in english

  <WSC#DPC179:0605:FA>
      ngai tahu sea fisheries is a big report we put out last year <{><[>saying
      that</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0610:MA>
      <[>okay that's</[></{> the south island <?>fish</?> isn't it
      <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0615:FA>
      yeah saying that um they were UNDER the treaty we made a finding
      that they were um entitled in eighteen forty to fifty percent of
      fisheries cos that's what the treaty said but our recommendation
      was that they should negotiate with the crown for what the crown
      would give them <{><[>which</[> is a completely different
      recommendation from the finding <latch>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0630:FA>
      the finding is nothing but a nice set of words basically <latch>

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      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0640:FA>
      the media came out and the next morning in <{><[>the newspaper</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0645:MA>
      <[>yeah i know i remember</[></{> i read about it <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0650:FA>
      <[>and</[></{> said that we <.>had</.> we had recommended that
      <{1><[1>ALL south island fishery</[1> no ALL not even fifty
      percent be given back to ngai tahu in <{2><[2>the</[2> south
      island <latch>

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      <[1><?>they get fifty percent</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      yeah <latch> <&>19:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC179:0670:FA>
      it was complete bullshit

  <WSC#DPC179:0675:MA>
      i remember there was a lot of outrage about that <{><[><.>s</.>
      surprisingly</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0680:FA>
      <[>yeah <.>we</.></[></{> we objected strongly

  <WSC#DPC179:0685:FA>
      i mean <.>th</.> we had a series <.>of</.> of weeks <.>of</.>
      <{><[>of</[> like trying to get into the media and things and
      say this is WRONG <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC179:0695:MA>
      yeah but they didn't <{><[>take a blind bit of notice</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0700:FA>
      <[>what can you do</[></{>

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      they don't <.>so</.> so there was <{1><[1>probably</[1> a lot of
      stink about that <{2><[2>but</[2> if it's only on page three in
      a small column <{3><[3>compared with</[3> the front lines <{4><[4>you
      don't see it</[4>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <[3>yeah i know</[3></{3>

  <WSC#DPC179:0725:MA>
      <[4>i <.>f</.> i <.>f</.></[4></{4> i found that most amusing
      actually

  <WSC#DPC179:0730:MA>
      i didn't agree with it <.>but</.> i mean this thing <.>like</.>
      i think what i object <.>to</.> <,,><&>4</&> i mean it's not
      something you can put into words

  <WSC#DPC179:0735:MA>
      it's something that you feel

  <WSC#DPC179:0740:FA>
      i think a lot of it <.>is</.> cos <.>i</.> i get quite a lot of
      bad vibes <.>and</.> and negative kind of comments when i say
      where i work but a lot of it is the media misrepresents an AWFUL
      lot of what we do <{1><[1>hugely</[1> and i think the media is
      really unfair to maori in new zealand

  <WSC#DPC179:0745:FA>
      they pick <{2><[2>up</[2> ANYTHING like for example <.>that</.>
      like that consultant guy who was paid a hundred and twenty
      thousand dollars for a months' work the other week <latch>

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC179:0760:MA>
      um it was somebody um tony regal his name was <{><[>yeah</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0765:FA>
      <[>well</[></{> <.>that</.> like <&>20:00</&> that was big news

  <WSC#DPC179:0770:FA>
      kind of <.>how</.> how dare they waste so much taxpayers money
      on consultants

  <WSC#DPC179:0775:FA>
      <{1><[1>that</[1> happens in government departments all the time
      <{2><[2>but you don't hear ANYTHING</[2> about them

  <WSC#DPC179:0780:FA>
      because it was a maori issue it was a <.>big</.> big deal
      basically <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0785:MA>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC179:0790:MA>
      <[2>yeah <?>quite a lot of <.>s</.></?> stuff yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC179:0795:MA>
      i don't know

  <WSC#DPC179:0800:MA>
      i think the issue there was though that the <.>sprink</.> oh oh
      that seems quite oh i remember i was just going to say something
      and i just realised there's a dirty great fallacy in what i was
      going to say so i won't say it <,,><&>3</&> <{><[><?>but i mean
      saying that</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0805:FA>
      <[>i think a lot of it</[></{> is unfair treatment basically by
      the media

  <WSC#DPC179:0810:MA>
      yeah but then you've got um real nutters as well on either side
      claiming things that are not really fair like trying to take
      private land and all that

  <WSC#DPC179:0815:MA>
      i mean BUY private land fair enough but you can't take it

  <WSC#DPC179:0820:FA>
      <.>that</.> that's a <.>g</.> another complete fallacy like the
      tribunal can <.>not</.> <{1><[1>can not make recommendations on</[1>
      private land

  <WSC#DPC179:0825:FA>
      the only private land that's been returned is four hundred acres
      in <{2><[2>twelve</[2> years

  <WSC#DPC179:0830:MA>
      <[1>yeah i know it can't <.>take</.> i KNOW it can't take it</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC179:0835:MA>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC179:0840:MA>
      i know <{><[><.>but</.> <.>but</.> if <.>i</.> i'll tell you</[>
      if i may finish my sentence <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0845:FA>
      <[><.>and</.> and for private land to be returned</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC179:0850:FA>
      yeah sure but <.>i</.> i mean this <.>is</.>

  <WSC#DPC179:0855:MA>
      <O>clears throat</O>

  <WSC#DPC179:0860:FA>
      this is a really <.>big</.> big deal that we get <&>21:00</&>
      heaps of shit about <{1><[1>and</[1> like <,,> we can recommend
      on private land <.>but</.> but <.>that</.> <.>that</.> apart
      from the fact they're trying to change that now by legislation
      that we can't recommend on private land anyway there has to be a
      willing buyer i e the crown and a willing seller and they can
      name their price basically <{2><[2>so it's</[2> BULLSHIT that
      private land is under threat

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah i know</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC179:0875:MA>
      now can i finish <,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0880:MA>
      what i was going to say is what you just said they can't <?>have</?>
      them but that doesn't stop proponents on either side trying to
      <.>bloody</.>

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      that's just <{><[>ignorance</[> though

  <WSC#DPC179:0890:MA>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0895:MA>
      it's not just ignorance

  <WSC#DPC179:0900:MA>
      it's grandstanding as well and there's a big difference <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0905:FA>
      but <.>it</.> it's misrepresenting the facts <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0910:MA>
      so?

  <WSC#DPC179:0915:MA>
      that's never stopped anyone

  <WSC#DPC179:0920:FA>
      yeah but i'm saying <.>the</.> <.>the</.> those people are wrong

  <WSC#DPC179:0925:MA>
      i don't disagree with you that it's wrong but it's not going to
      stop it happening

  <WSC#DPC179:0930:FA>
      so <.>what's</.> <.>why</.> why is <.>it</.> if <.>you</.> if
      you admit they're wrong

  <WSC#DPC179:0935:MA>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC179:0940:FA>
      and it shouldn't happen why is it a problem <,> <{><[>for you</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0945:MA>
      <[>i didn't</[></{> say it WAS a problem

  <WSC#DPC179:0950:FA>
      you said it was something you disagreed with <,,> private land
      <,,><&>3</&>

  <WSC#DPC179:0955:MA>
      eh <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0960:MA>
      i think you're taking me out of context here <?>never mind</?>
      <,,>

  <WSC#DPC179:0965:MA>
      i think i was TALKING about um i was starting to talk about
      radicals and <?>i'd <.>started</.></?> was using private land as
      an example and then you jumped in before i could finish my
      sentence <latch>

  <WSC#DPC179:0970:FA>
      mm private land's a bad example cos it's NOT under threat

  <WSC#DPC179:0975:FA>
      it's that <.>is</.> <{><[>like it's a good example of ignorance</[>

  <WSC#DPC179:0980:MA>
      <[><?>it's a good example it's a football</?></[></{> yeah it's
      a football <,>

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      i mean people use what's going to be most emotive <&>22:21</&>
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