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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side two</&>
  <&>0:07</&>
  

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      oh well johnny my last day today

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      please don't go <mock tearful>please don't go</mock tearful> <O>laughs</O>

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      taking over

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      yep

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      how's the confidence <,>

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      oh not too bad now

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      no

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      <laughs>a week ago</laughs> i felt um <,,> sort <.>of</.> er not
      lost but <{><[>er</[> didn't feel confident

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      but er <latch>

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      <O>clears throat</O> <latch>

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      now a lot of things have fallen into place which is good <latch>

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      yeah

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      i'm very much <laughs>relieved</laughs>

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      that's good

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      just little things <,> <{><[><.>and</.></[>

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      <[><?>it's not</?></[></{> a tough job basically

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      i would say the toughest job would be <drawls>the</drawls> <,>
      <.>negotiating</.> <?><.>renegot</.></?> <.>gotiating</.> with
      businesses to get the best rates for the trust

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      mm that's something <?>that</?> you learn from <&>1:00</&>
      experience <{><[>i suppose</[>

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> can't teach you anything
      there er um <,,>

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      took <?>me a while</?> <.>to</.> myself to learn <?>to feel
      you're beginning</?> to pick it up <,> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>you got to</[></{> have <,,> er sort of <.>s</.> GUTS and
      take a risk sort of push and push and push and

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      yeah well a lot of it is just er <O>clears throat</O> <O>exhales</O>
      a <?><.>traff</.> trafficking</?> um approach anyway

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      mm

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      basically you say okay um this supplier's probably not giving me
      <.>this</.> this much discount

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      can you match it or improve it

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      if not you know no point <.>is</.> discussing um <.>any</.>
      anything further

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      yeah

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      just approach it like this and <?>seem</?> to work um

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      did that with hertz and <?>now</?> budget um <{><[>yeah</[>
      <&>2:00</&>

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      <[>that's</[></{> a classic example you can <?>get</?>

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      yeah

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      <quietly>it's er</quietly>

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      <O>tut</O> and ansett as well

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      with air new zealand

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      yeah <,> yeah <O>exhales</O>

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      you <.>can</.> <,> match those up against each other really
      easily i'd say <latch>

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      yeah exactly

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      where there is competition there is not a problem <O>inhales</O>

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      mm

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      where there's not then <?>oh god</?> <O>laughs</O>

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      you <?>have to</?> think of something else <latch> yeah
      different approach

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      we're not a profit organisation

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      yeah <,>

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      <quietly>how will we survive</quietly> <O>laughs</O>

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      <quietly>exactly</quietly>

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      no i think um i'm not expecting to walk into THAT area like a

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      mm

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      like a you know a natural pro or anything

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      you got to

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      mm

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      have a go at it

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      <?>oh well</?>

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      maybe make a few mistakes on the way

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      yep why not <,>

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      <{><[>you can <?>always</?> LEARN</[> from your mistakes

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      <[>you can always say no</[></{>

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      yeah and you can always say no to them

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      yeah <&>3:00</&>

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      <?>you know</?> if your negotiations <{><[>haven't</[> gone
      wrong as long as <laughs>you're not a</laughs> monopolist

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      <[><O>clears throat</O></[></{>

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      that's right

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      mm

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      which they won't be <,> <O>voc</O> <,> <O>inhales</O>

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      yeah <,,> <{><[>oh <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>and <.>in</.></[></{> in the last um in the last week i've
      got to know everyone <.>m</.> on a more personal basis

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      mm <latch>

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      you know it started <{1><[1><.>t</.> oh</[1> hello hello you
      know <{2><[2><?>da de da da da</?></[2>

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      now i don't you know there's still a bit of distance while they
      get to know you

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      yeah <latch>

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      now there's a little bit more warmth which is good

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      well <{><[>the</[> trust being a small organisation you tend to
      um get to know the staff <?>pretty well</?> i think but mind you
      <?>it</?> all comes down to your <.>personal</.> personality <&>pronounced
      sonality</&> <?>once again</?> <drawls>um</drawls> <,>

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      like er tracy jordan you know how she's not that popular

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      <[><O>voc</O></[></{>

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      mm

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      um you know basically even though it's <unclear>word</unclear>
      she depends on her personality <O>sniffs</O> er

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      now <&>4:00</&> elizabeth's <.>on</.> <?>is</?> your staff
      basically

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      sorry?

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      <{><[><.>elizabeth</.></[>

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      <[>elizabeth</[></{> <.>sh</.> okay <drawls>um</drawls> so
      basically you can ask her to do whatever you want but er always
      be careful that er you've got to look after her as well <latch>

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      mm <quietly>yeah no i realise that</quietly>

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      basically you know um <,> that she's <?>a</?> nice girl and <,>
      she's quite good actually er

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      i <?>like her</?>

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      <?>what</?> comes in early works extra hours if she needs to
      <latch>

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      yeah and er for her age she er she's er twenty this year <?>is</?>
      not twenty yet er nineteen <?>plus</?> <O>inhales</O> um she's
      quite mature in fact um <,> for her age <,> um

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      in relation to her work i think basically she's applied herself
      really well and um

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      she got a good attitude <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      she likes her job

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      mm <latch>

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      <quietly><?>which is good</?></quietly>

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      yep so er <O>clears throat</O> important to take care of
      yourself <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[> <&>5:00</&>

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      <[>mm she</[></{> doesn't mind doing the receptionist bit either

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      yeah yeah

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      <quietly><.>sh</.> which is good</quietly>

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      mm and er be aware of the politics

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      mm <latch>

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      <O>clears throat</O> in the office er

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      don't forget that er <latch>

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      bloody <.>gos</.> gossipers come on

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      <drawls>yeah independent</drawls>

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      yeah

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      <{><[><quietly>yeah</quietly></[>

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      <[><?>well</?></[></{> i hadn't actually had much contact with
      that sort of stuff yet but um i'm wary of it

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      <{><[><quietly>yeah but</quietly></[>

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      <[>who</[></{> knows what that says <,,><&>3</&>

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      <{1><[1>q <,> e d</[1> <with singsong voice>dum dum <{2><[2>dum</with singsong voice></[2>
      <,,> <O>tut</O> <quietly>yeah</quietly>

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      <[1><O>exhales</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><unclear>word</unclear></[2></{2>

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      great help then

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      oh <with rising tone>oh</with rising tone> FLIPping heck <&>recording
      cuts out briefly</&>

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      <{><[>yeah <O>sniffs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> we were rudely interrupted <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><laughs><?>that's right</?></laughs> <O>laughs</O></[></{>
      <,>

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      never mind

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      yeah <?>we were talking about</?> politics <latch>

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      <quietly><?>talking yep</?></quietly>

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      um <O>clears throat</O> now don't forget that the accounting
      department is separate from all the other departments in the sen
      that <.>y</.> in the <&>6:00</&> sense that you've got to um
      SCRUTinise each department um <O>sniffs</O> wherever possible

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      mhm

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      um whenever there's an overrun over budget <,> <O>tut</O>
      <drawls>or</drawls> er <O>inhales</O> basically um just not <?>forming</?>
      not performing that you've got to er <quietly>you know</quietly>
      tell <?>them</?> off more or less

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      mm say look <{><[>what's the story

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      bring them</[> back in line

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      <[><quietly><unclear>word</unclear></quietly></[></{>

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      <quietly>exactly</quietly> um <O>sniffs</O> <{><[><.>s</.></[>

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      <[><.>have</.></[></{>

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      budget time will be the toughest for you because you've got to
      be really tough there <O>sniffs</O>

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      if the previous year we <?>did</?> not make a profit <?>or made
      a</?> LOSS let's say <O>inhales</O> then you've got to er
      basically evaluate to see what sort of budget <.>you</.> have
      got to prepare a tight budget or um you know a budget a <{><[><unclear>word</unclear>
      yeah</[>

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear> yeah</[></{>

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      and er well that's the worst time for you

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      <?>you</?> won't be <.>very</.> popular <latch>

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      <quietly>nah not many <{><[>friends</quietly> <O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>um <?>for that time</?></[></{> no <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[>

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      <[>is that um</[></{> more <&>7:00</&> up here or down at <?>hay's</?>
      as well

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      i mean they've <{><[>all got BUDGets <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>both ways both ways</[></{> <O>clears throat</O> <quietly>both
      ways</quietly> <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[>

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      <[><?>and</?></[></{> the auckland office do they have much
      <latch>

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      nah they haven't got a budget no

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      we just let them have a few expenditures and

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      yeah

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      <quietly>mm okay</quietly>

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      mhm

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      good

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      i have to get down to hay's <laughs>at some stage</laughs>
      <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      that was sort of planned <?>from</?> you <{1><[1>know <?>dad</?>
      said</[1> from day one <{2><[2>oh we'll</[2> get you down there
      pretty soon

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      <?>like i say</?> you know <?>yeah</?> just imagine you were
      saying that you wanted to do an <unclear>word</unclear> course
      <latch>

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      mhm <latch>

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      you know and how come i never did it

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      just imagine that you're just trying to make a trip a one day
      trip to <unclear>word</unclear> <laughs>and you still <{1><[1>haven't</[1>
      been there</laughs> <?>and</?> how long have you been here

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      close to a <{2><[2>month yeah</[2>

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>three weeks three weeks</[2></{2> <?>to a month</?> yeah
      <latch>

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      exactly so <drawls>um</drawls> that's <laughs>why</laughs> i
      said you know <{><[>i'd be</[> amazed if you <?>would</?> have
      time to actually do a course

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

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      i've been here twenty two days

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      that's a course

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      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:0815:BB>
      the length of a course and i haven't been <{><[>able to get away
      for a day</[> <&>8:00</&>

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      <[><O>clears throat</O> <O>sniffs</O></[></{> yep

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      <quietly><?>not</?> surprising really <?>though</?></quietly>

  <WSC#DPC190:0830:BB>
      <{1><[1>EARly</[1> days i'm still trying to get set in <{2><[2>settled
      in</[2>

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2> yeah <quietly>yeah</quietly>

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      <?>but</?> yeah <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPC190:0850:AL>
      <[>but</[></{> er yeah

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      so the people down at hay's um <,> <.>pr</.> reasonable people?
      <O>voc</O>

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      very down to earth they are

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      mhm

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      um bill johnson the school director is er <,> <?>a</?> bag of
      laughs <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:0880:AL>
      um <.>you'll</.> you'll get along well with <?>him</?>

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      yeah

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      yeah um the instructors i don't know how well you know them um

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      i never got to know them <O>sniffs</O> um because every time i
      was there they were out on schemes and so forth

  <WSC#DPC190:0900:AL>
      you get to know a few of them

  <WSC#DPC190:0905:BB>
      mhm

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      um but <?>bursars</?> people they are dealing with down at the
      school <.>the</.> the school director deputy school director and
      all the other heads of departments

  <WSC#DPC190:0915:AL>
      that's about it <O>sniffs</O> <latch> <&>9:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC190:0920:BB>
      so <.>wha</.> what have you got then bill johnson

  <WSC#DPC190:0925:BB>
      who's the deputy

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      roger crosby <latch>

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      he's the deputy is he

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      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:0945:BB>
      so he's he actually authorises <{1><[1>a lot of</[1> those costs
      <{2><[2>so</[2>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>that's right

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      he's</[2></{2> in charge of training equipment

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      okay

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      <quietly>yeah</quietly>

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      all right <{><[><?>i don't really</?></[> need to know <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:0980:AL>
      <[><O>clears throat</O></[></{> <O>sniffs</O> <{><[>mm</[>

  <WSC#DPC190:0985:BB>
      <[>and</[></{> what the cafeteria <?>and</?> <{><[>staff</[>
      canteen <latch>

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      <[>YEP</[></{>

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      jim havers is the catering director

  <WSC#DPC190:1000:AL>
      jay aitken the um <{1><[1><?>maintenance</?> director</[1> and
      <unclear>word</unclear> and <?>think of</?> the secretary <{2><[2>yeah</[2>

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      <[1><quietly><unclear>word</unclear> <?>yeah</?></quietly></[1></{1>

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      <[2>and</[2></{2> <?>that</?> many <?>dealing through</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

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      oh yeah all the time inquiries invoices running accounts and so
      forth <{><[><O>sniffs</O></[>

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      <[>that's</[></{> good

  <WSC#DPC190:1025:AL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC190:1030:BB>
      yep i've talked to about three <&>pronounced sri</&> people i
      think <{><[>from</[> there and hay's and they sound really good

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1040:AL>
      <quietly>yeah <{><[>yeah</quietly></[>

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      <[>not</[></{> gonna have any <latch>

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      <O>clears throat</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1055:BB>
      CLASHes i don't think

  <WSC#DPC190:1060:AL>
      no you wouldn't

  <WSC#DPC190:1065:AL>
      any clash would be in the office here <O>sniffs</O>

  <WSC#DPC190:1070:BB>
      good <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1075:AL>
      <O>clears throat</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1080:BB>
      well not good but <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1085:AL>
      <quietly>yeah</quietly>

  <WSC#DPC190:1090:BB>
      <?>it's</?> good <?>it'll</?> be no more

  <WSC#DPC190:1095:AL>
      yeah <&>10:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC190:1100:BB>
      potentially no more anyway

  <WSC#DPC190:1105:AL>
      <yawns>well basically</yawns> i've been fine here what five
      years four and a half years i've been here <O>tut</O> and um
      i've got along with er les the director <?>very well</?> because
      um <O>tut</O> we were <?>in</?> basically <O>tut</O> we always
      <?>follow</?> each other um you know at meetings and so forth

  <WSC#DPC190:1110:AL>
      <.>w</.> um he needed to get <?>the</?> figures i provided rough
      figures for him um

  <WSC#DPC190:1115:AL>
      he <?>needed</?> a report i provided a good report for him and
      so forth and so basically when you you know you and um <.>m</.>
      basically myself um <?>made</?> everything further on um you
      know <,> do not perform satisfactory <O>tut</O> um he was always
      there to <.>suppor</.> support me <?>and</?> gave me the
      confidence to go on and on <O>sniffs</O> and he's been great

  <WSC#DPC190:1120:AL>
      <quietly><?>one of the best bosses i've ever had</?></quietly>

  <WSC#DPC190:1125:BB>
      is he <,> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC190:1130:AL>
      <[>um so</[></{> that support you need to um <?>obtain from him</?>

  <WSC#DPC190:1135:AL>
      i don't know whether you've got to earn it or what but er i'm
      sure it'll <?>pass</?> you know support you fully anyway <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1140:BB>
      mm

  <WSC#DPC190:1145:AL>
      um <O>clears throat</O> yeah <{><[><?>but</?></[> yeah i know in
      like some departments the support was not there because er the
      their approach was different um

  <WSC#DPC190:1150:AL>
      didn't like their approach perhaps

  <WSC#DPC190:1155:AL>
      i don't know <O>sniffs</O>

  <WSC#DPC190:1160:BB>
      <[><.>s</.></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1165:BB>
      yeah <.>i</.> i noted yesterday that um les does support the
      staff really well <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1170:AL>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1175:BB>
      like in that meeting he was trying to get shelley's input

  <WSC#DPC190:1180:AL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC190:1185:BB>
      and he was saying yep really good idea

  <WSC#DPC190:1190:BB>
      you know that's <{><[>really</[> good

  <WSC#DPC190:1195:BB>
      we'll put that up on the board

  <WSC#DPC190:1200:BB>
      that's that's good shelley <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1205:AL>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1210:AL>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC190:1215:AL>
      <{><[><?>that's right</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC190:1220:BB>
      <[>just</[></{> try and get her build her confidence <{><[>to</[>
      start making a um <.>inp</.> input into the discussion

  <WSC#DPC190:1225:AL>
      <[>YEAH</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1230:AL>
      <quietly>exactly</quietly> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1235:BB>
      which is good cos otherwise you know i mean people like shelley
      um and joanne probably feel like they haven't got too much to
      offer <{1><[1>in</[1> the way of um you know suggestions which
      <{2><[2>would improve</[2>

  <WSC#DPC190:1240:AL>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1> <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC190:1245:AL>
      <[2>exactly</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC190:1250:BB>
      <?>think that</?> but they do

  <WSC#DPC190:1255:BB>
      <{><[><?>i <.>mean</.></?></[>

  <WSC#DPC190:1260:AL>
      <[>but you do</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1265:BB>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1270:AL>
      exactly <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1275:BB>
      and it's a matter of <{><[>just</[>

  <WSC#DPC190:1280:AL>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <O>clears throat</O> <O>sniffs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1285:BB>
      giving <{><[>them</[> the confidence to to <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1290:AL>
      <[><O>sniffs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC190:1295:AL>
      <O>clears throat</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC190:1300:BB>
      just say it

  <WSC#DPC190:1305:AL>
      yep and <{1><[1>that's one</[1> thing i find in new zealand is
      that okay um <?>even at what</?> level they always ask for the
      input

  <WSC#DPC190:1310:AL>
      you know the top level middle <&>trips over own tongue</&> you
      know lower level you know your input is always valuable and
      basically they DO try to GET your input into whatever problems
      they've got or any other matters <{2><[2><,>

  <WSC#DPC190:1315:AL>
      like</[2> in malaysia <?>it's</?> different <,>

  <WSC#DPC190:1320:AL>
      malaysia is the top management makes the decision and the middle
      management have to follow whatever has been decided and that is
      basically it

  <WSC#DPC190:1325:AL>
      <{3><[3>it carries on</[3> and so in terms of problem solving i
      don't think um the solutions would be as great as um what
      <&>13:00</&> you obtain here in new zealand um

  <WSC#DPC190:1330:AL>
      you might be limited because one thing i found like
      brainstorming sessions like we had yesterday is just er you know
      great

  <WSC#DPC190:1335:AL>
      <?>i mean</?> you've got everyone's contribution and basically
      um you get more ideas as well <&>13:14</&>

  <WSC#DPC190:1340:BB>
      <[1>that's good</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC190:1345:BB>
      <[2><O>inhales</O> <quietly>yeah</quietly></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC190:1350:BB>
      <[3><O>voc</O></[3></{3>
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