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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>3:50</&>
  

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      no well no <O>laughs</O> but um i don't know how <drawls>seriously</drawls>
      to take it

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      i don't know um <,,>

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      sounds <.>like</.>

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      i mean i don't <&>4:00</&> know anything about jack body apart
      from <,> several things we won't discuss now

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <laughs>they'll write that in <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></laughs>
      no as um <O>sniffs</O> filthy snigger or something like that</[>

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      <[><laughs>in joke</laughs> <O>laughs</O></[></{> <,,>

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      <laughs>mm</laughs>

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      i don't know how seriously are they <.>ex</.>

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      are you <.>sp</.> i <.>mean</.>

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      oh well people <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>i mean i can just</[></{> see everyone making <.>laugh</.>
      laughy videos

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      no no <.>that</.>

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      some of them are DEAD serious like they're <latch>

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      are they <latch>

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      they're gonna <.>go</.> they're gonna go out <.>and</.> and
      reveal their little psyches <&>deliberately pronounced as
      pisychees</&> um <laughs>just like <{1><[1><?>mad</?></laughs></[1>
      and that's gonna be torturous black and white <{2><[2>grainy</[2>
      and <O>laughs</O> yeah <{3><[3>so</[3>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><drawls>oh</drawls></[2></{2> <[3>these</[3></{3> people <{><[>take</[>
      themselves so seriously <O>tut</O>

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      <[><O>coughs</O></[></{>

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      well yes <.>but</.> yeah mm <,>

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      er the one we saw the other day was <,> <O>clears throat</O>

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      well i think it started out with um a film about me written on
      <&>5:00</&> a bit of paper and that sort of sounded like ours
      already

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      um um <.>only</.> er this was <.>s</.> sitting on um a leopard
      skin <laughs>jock strap or something</laughs> and then there was
      a girlie <{><[><.>getting</.></[>

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      <[><?><.>s</.> something</?> tasteful</[></{> like <{><[>that</[>

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      <[>getting</[></{> <laughs>dressed up</laughs> <.>and</.> and
      putting a wig on and

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      it was all pretty um

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      i don't know it was supposed to be meaningful or something

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      there was a interview with an old <with silly voice>fuddy duddy</with silly voice>
      who said <imitates>i've known her since she's been my
      granddaughter</imitates> <.>and</.>

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      mm

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      mm <O>clears throat</O>

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      well i don't think we'll be able to get you any character
      witnesses simon

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      <O>laughs</O> thank you for <{><[>that vote of confidence <O>sniffs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      well if your true inner being is amusing then you should make an
      amusing video surely

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      <{><[>yeah</[>

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      <[>so long</[></{> as er you don't <.>look</.>

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      i think if you look like you're taking the piss out of the whole
      thing <,> then it won't be appreciated very much eh

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      yeah

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      but if <{1><[1>you just show a humorous aspect</[1> of yourself
      with some cutting satire on <.>a</.> <{2><[2>on a level</[2>

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      <[1><O>coughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><laughs>cutting</[2></{2> satire</laughs>

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      well we've got to <{><[>level them up on the video</[>

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      <[><.>we</.> <.>we</.> we'll <.>be</.> <O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      we'll be lucky <O>laughs</O> <&>6:00</&>

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      the thing I'M worried <.>about</.>

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      i mean i'm quite happy to go away and make an amusing video but
      the um

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      <O>voc</O> <with silly voice>what am i going to do for the music</with silly voice>

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      well it's essentially up to you

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      yeah i know but um um it's <.>got</.> you've got to integrate it
      and it doesn't <.>s</.>

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      i mean oh <,,> <O>exhales</O>

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      i don't know

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      what sort of music do you want to put on it <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>well <.>that</.> that's</[></{>

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      the thing i can put anything on it <O>clears throat</O> <.>i</.>
      <.>e</.> cos i mean the way we're looking at it is from a point
      of view of the music enHANcing it like sort of like chase music
      or <{1><[1><.>so</.></[1> inane um <&>sings tune</&>
      <with silly voice>simon's life is a circus</with silly voice>
      <{2><[2>type <?>thing</?></[2>

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      um yeah but <.>they</.> i think this concept <.>sh</.> that er
      think this concept <.>sh</.> that er um that jack wants is that
      it should <,,><&>3</&> <&>sighs</&> it should <&>7:00</&> be
      integral an integral part of it but <.>i</.> i don't feel <O>voc</O>
      um

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      the thing <.>is</.> er that <.>w</.> that would be fine but um
      er that doesn't mean anything for me

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      like i don't think i'm ever going to write music for films or
      anything like that

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      and <.>i</.> and <.>as</.> as well as <.>any</.> <.>i</.> well i
      <,,>

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      what's the word <O>laughs</O>

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      as far as anything else is concerned i wouldn't be able <.>to</.>
      <,,> wouldn't be able to write five minutes worth of music <.>so</.>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O> yeah</[2></{2>

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      yeah

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      <.>in</.> in such a short time <?>limit</?> cos <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>it's</[></{> too long

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      well for me <{><[>yes</[>

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      <[>the</[></{> creative processes

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      well <laughs>no</laughs> for a film music composer it'd be three
      seconds work but <O>clears throat</O> <with silly voice>for
      simon who just agonises over every little note</with silly voice>
      then um <,,>

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      yeah

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      <.>s</.> um well i thought <.>of</.> i thought of a couple of
      things but <?>do</?> you want to sort of discuss <.>the</.>

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      yeah <{><[>go ahead but you've <.>got</.></[>

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      <[><?>video</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[></{> the details the
      nuts and bolts <.>and</.>

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      you've got to start cos <.>it's</.> you're you

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      oh <.>i</.> i was <.>ju</.> forgotten how <.>to</.> i don't know
      <&>8:00</&>

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      i want to do things like um <,> like er really tacky and um

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <&>simon's friends</&> in <.>a</.> in <.>a</.> on <.>a</.>
      written on a bit of cardboard <.>and</.> and with jonathan going
      <&>gestures</&> <O>laughs</O> <{1><[1>and</[1> inane things like
      that

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      <.>and</.> and er sort of <{2><[2>like</[2> deep personal
      revealing details like sexuality <unclear>word</unclear>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>sniffs</O></[2></{2>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      picture of a <{><[>woman

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      thumbs up</[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <O>laughs</O>

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      um <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><laughs>and that's really you yes</laughs></[></{>

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      <laughs>yeah</laughs> <O>laughs</O>

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      <O>laughs</O> <laughs>i'm afraid so</laughs> <O>inhales</O>

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      <laughs><.>y</.></laughs>

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      <laughs>why don't we just um splice together bits of old pornos
      and</laughs> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      oh

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      <laughs>we could use their tacky music</laughs>

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      that's <.>wh</.> that music <.>is</.>

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      oops

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      <laughs>i don't want to get into <.>th</.> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>
      that's recorded <?>by</?> stereo</laughs>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      tacky music <?>the music is</?>

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      we used <.>to</.> we used to laugh along to <.>th</.> <.>our</.>

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      our teacher would be diverted as <.>the</.> <?>to listen to <.>the</.>

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      i mean fuck</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

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      i remember a certain video <O>laughs</O> where they <&>9:00</&>
      had one like three minute piece of music <laughs>it was the same
      <{><[>piece of music <unclear>word</unclear> over and over again</laughs></[>

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      <[><loudly><O>laughs</O></loudly></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O> <laughs>god</laughs>

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      <laughs>oh that was <.>quite</.></laughs>

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      but they never credit the composer at the end

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      i wondered why not

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      <?>but</?> maybe it's just the plastic music that you buy for
      lifts and things <latch>

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      yeah i think so <latch> made by a machine

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      just creep around behind the supermarket

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      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><laughs><?>tape recording</?></laughs></[></{> <O>laughs</O>

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      so if you're ever in countdown and you see a big boom <{><[>coming</[>

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      <[>yeah</[></{> <,,><&>3</&>

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      <{><[><O>tut</O> like <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>well you <.>cou</.></[></{> i mean you could do that but you
      should have a purpose for everything you do

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      mm i was <.>only</.> <.>b</.> mm yeah <O>exhales</O>

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      making a two minute selfportrait video is <.>just</.> or five
      minutes or whatever it was <.>where</.>

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      where would i start

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      i don't know where to start

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      well you'll have to write lists and other things like that

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      mm

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      get it started

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      <O>tut</O> i quite fancy the idea of the inspired genius <O>laughs</O>

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      but <.>i</.> i have a variation on <&>10:00</&> that which is
      sort of me sitting at the piano going <O>voc</O> and think of a
      brilliant idea and playing some really wonderful music <.>like</.>
      which no one would recognise of course but some really <?>stirring</?>
      great music

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      <{><[>and then</[> and and then then um and then thinking mm

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>and going to the piano</[></{> and going <&>sings tune in
      silly voice</&>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      thinking no that wasn't it

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      <{1><[1><?>thinking again</?></[1> and then

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      <.>the</.> think would be <{2><[2><&>sings tune</&></[2>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2><&>sings tune</&></[2></{2>

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      yeah and <.>then</.> then doing the um sesame street thing with
      the head on the <laughs>piano</laughs>

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      yeah i still think that the idea of the um the genius <.>of</.>
      er

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      emergence of <.>a</.> of a striking new <{><[>genius</[> <.>is</.>
      <O>laughs</O> is simply too good to um <O>sniffs</O>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      well you've got the dark and sickly pallor <latch>

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      yeah <latch>

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      <unclear>word</unclear> <?>room</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>low
      life</?>

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      mm <latch>

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      <?>sickly pallor</?> <,>

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      <O>voc</O> well we could go over to the commons

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      <.>and</.> if we had the angles of the camera right we could
      make <.>the</.> <.>it</.> the commons look really seedy <.>and</.>
      <{><[><unclear>word</unclear> <O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O> <laughs><unclear>word</unclear></laughs></[></{>
      <&>11:00</&>

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      um we could <.>have</.> you like leaning over a pool table

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      yes simon getting his hands dirty in the search for creative um
      impulses <.>and</.>

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      yeah mixing with the scum of society

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O>

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      i thought it was</[>

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      <[><laughs>and he's never even been home</laughs></[></{>

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      <laughs>yeah</laughs> yeah my <{><[><laughs>flatmate <?><.>played</.>
      played the most of the</?> scum in society</laughs></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <{><[>amazing</[>

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      <[>good</[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O> well mm <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <laughs>there's no more</laughs>

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      <laughs>bugger</laughs> <O>sniffs</O>

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      um yeah well so

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      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <laughs>jonathan was exhausted</laughs>

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      no it's not exhausted yet

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      <laughs>no</laughs> um

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      well not until we actually think of something to put ON your
      video <,>

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      what <.>exactly</.> what essential features of yourself do you
      want to bring <{><[>out</[>

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      <[>none</[></{>

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      that's the thing

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      <O>exhales</O>

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      <{><[><.>well</.></[>

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      <[>i'm</[></{> not interested in revealing myself on video

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      it seems just the <.>most</.>

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      i mean i'm <O>laughs</O> unhappy enough with my little
      <mock tearful>personality as it is without <&>12:00</&> showing
      everybody else</mock tearful>

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      <O>laughs</O> <{1><[1>maybe</[1> we could um just

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      <{2><[2>i don't know</[2> symbolically show your um

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      <[1><?>mm</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O> sad</[2></{2>

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      all his little sickness

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      <laughs><.>your</.> your <{><[><O>laughs</O> no i was going to
      <.>say</.></laughs></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <laughs>like a <.>p</.> silhouette of penises running around</laughs>

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      your massive problems with selfimage could do with that sort <.>of</.>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <laughs>yeah thanks jonathan

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      you're not supposed to know</laughs> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      um

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      <{><[><O>laughs</O> <laughs>well if you're <.>go</.></laughs></[>

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      if you <.>can't</.>

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      if you <.>like</.>

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      if you <.>like</.>

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      if you can't think of um <mock serious>specific features</mock serious>
      then you could do it like um a day in the life of simon burgess

  <WSC#DPC209:1005:SB>
      and let the day in the life show the specific features for
      itself which is a very convenient mechanism for <.>p</.> you
      know just sort of doing whatever the hell you want to

  <WSC#DPC209:1010:SB>
      but it gives it an order which you can always fall back on if
      you don't quite know what to do after lunch <[><O>laughs</O>

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      <laughs><unclear>word</unclear></laughs></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1020:HM>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1025:SB>
      he said <?>acting</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPC209:1030:HM>
      i think i could really go <unclear>word</unclear> there

  <WSC#DPC209:1035:HM>
      simon does EVERYTHING for the whole day

  <WSC#DPC209:1040:HM>
      simon cleans

  <WSC#DPC209:1045:HM>
      <{><[><laughs><.>simon</.></laughs> <O>laughs</O> <laughs><unclear>word</unclear></laughs>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1050:HM>
      <laughs><unclear>word</unclear></laughs></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1055:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1060:SB>
      <laughs>simon looking <.>enthusias</.></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1065:SB>
      simon does no <&>13:00</&> composing and that's <.>why</.></laughs>
      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1070:HM>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1075:HM>
      mm <O>clears throat</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1080:SB>
      no but think

  <WSC#DPC209:1085:SB>
      i mean it <.>w</.> simon in the creative processes and you could
      be cooking

  <WSC#DPC209:1090:SB>
      <.>and</.> this is simon being creative <.>and</.>

  <WSC#DPC209:1095:HM>
      <.>then</.> then a shot of a few bars of <laughs>music composed</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1100:SB>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC209:1105:HM>
      <laughs>great</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1110:HM>
      <&>moans</&> only it doesn't work <laughs>like that</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1115:SB>
      <with silly voice>simon and the vegetable operetta</with silly voice>

  <WSC#DPC209:1120:HM>
      only it <.>w</.> it would be like a picture <.>of</.> er an
      empty stage continuously and a <?>note reading</?> go away

  <WSC#DPC209:1125:HM>
      <{><[><O>laughs</O> come back <O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1130:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1135:SB>
      <O>tut</O> well that's one thing you can do

  <WSC#DPC209:1140:HM>
      yeah you <.>c</.> like see everything in <.>the</.> in the
      course of a day <,> <{><[>or <.>it's</.> <?><.>sh</.></?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1145:SB>
      <[>i mean <.>that's</.></[></{> relatively convenient way of
      ordering it especially as the night comes down <.>or</.> it's
      the next morning arriving <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1150:HM>
      <[>we draw a</[></{> veil over the unpleasant scene that follows

  <WSC#DPC209:1155:SB>
      <laughs>yeah</laughs> yeah no but i mean you could have some
      startling conclusions <{1><[1>to</[1> the sunset or <{2><[2>something
      tacky like that

  <WSC#DPC209:1160:SB>
      sun sets over the</[2> top of everton hall's chimneys <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC209:1165:HM>
      <[2><drawls>oh</drawls> <laughs>no no</laughs></[2></{2>
      <&>14:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC209:1170:HM>
      <laughs>yeah <?>with a</?> belch of green smoke</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1175:SB>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1180:HM>
      simon is once again hard at work preparing for the next day's
      sleep <{><[><O>laughs</O></[> <quietly>exhausted</quietly>

  <WSC#DPC209:1185:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DPC209:1190:SB>
      <O>tut</O> either that or you could have a series of gags

  <WSC#DPC209:1195:SB>
      <{><[><?>that</?> isn't such</[> a bad idea

  <WSC#DPC209:1200:HM>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1205:HM>
      oh <,,><&>4</&>

  <WSC#DPC209:1210:HM>
      mm yeah <.>that</.> that once again is the <,> problem of um
      <,,> the sound

  <WSC#DPC209:1215:SB>
      mm <,>

  <WSC#DPC209:1220:SB>
      <{><[>but <.>that</.>

  <WSC#DPC209:1225:SB>
      what about <.>this</.></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1230:HM>
      <[>i mean the only sound i've</[></{> thought of is the what i
      said before about the sound of the piano

  <WSC#DPC209:1235:SB>
      yeah <,,>

  <WSC#DPC209:1240:SB>
      what about two minutes of <laughs>interminable snuffling</laughs>
      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1245:HM>
      <[><O>laughs</O> <laughs><?>excellent</?></laughs> <O>laughs</O>
      <laughs>interminable snuffling</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1250:HM>
      which side of me is that</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1255:HM>
      <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1260:HM>
      <laughs>you'd like to explain</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1265:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <&>15:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC209:1270:SB>
      <laughs>um the public side</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC209:1275:HM>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1280:HM>
      oh thanks <O>inhales</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1285:SB>
      <with silly voice>well the private side's more of a slurp</with silly voice>

  <WSC#DPC209:1290:HM>
      oh yuk <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1295:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> not that i have <{1><[1>seen the
      private side <.>i</.></[1> i wish to <{2><[2>assure you <?>transcript
      writer</?></[2>

  <WSC#DPC209:1300:HM>
      <[1>i don't know if this <.>is</.> <O>laughs</O></[1></{1> <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC209:1305:HM>
      <laughs>oh god</laughs> <,> oh

  <WSC#DPC209:1310:SB>
      <O>sniffs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1315:HM>
      this could be thoroughly <.>embarr</.>

  <WSC#DPC209:1320:HM>
      <{><[><O>laughs</O> oh i'll</[> i'll try sort of going at it
      from the point of view of not not wanting to reveal anything of
      my innermost um um weaknesses will be revealed and it'll also
      show that i'm an empty cardboard figure <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1325:SB>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1330:HM>
      and i'll blow myself away to put a fitting end to it

  <WSC#DPC209:1335:HM>
      that's the that's a conclusion <laughs>for us</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1340:SB>
      no but that that's great

  <WSC#DPC209:1345:SB>
      think of <{><[>it <,> <O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1350:HM>
      <[><loudly><O>laughs</O></loudly></[></{> <laughs>oh</laughs>
      thank you

  <WSC#DPC209:1355:HM>
      <{1><[1>great</[1> i see <.>y</.> you're <.>w</.> sacrifice all
      in the <{2><[2>creative art</[2> <&>name</&> says <unclear>word</unclear>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC209:1360:HM>
      ultimate um yes <laughs>god</laughs> <O>laughs</O> <{3><[3><?>embarrassment</?></[3>

  <WSC#DPC209:1365:SB>
      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC209:1370:SB>
      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC209:1375:SB>
      <[3>no but but <.>th</.></[3></{3> think of the fun you could
      <{><[>have like</[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1380:HM>
      <[>you would</[></{> sell this to a film <{><[><laughs>festival
      wouldn't you</laughs></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1385:SB>
      <[><?><.>s</.></?> triple</[></{> triple irony that videos of
      the same length

  <WSC#DPC209:1390:HM>
      <laughs>same yeah we could have yeah</laughs> hamish in a dress
      <O>laughs</O> <latch> <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1395:HM>
      <laughs>oh no</laughs> <with silly voice>you're not seeing that
      side of me

  <WSC#DPC209:1400:HM>
      no <?>oops</?></with silly voice> <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1405:SB>
      we're as <?>queer can be</?> <latch> <O>laughs</O> <O>inhales</O>
      oh god <,> we'll make up a few <O>laughs</O> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPC209:1410:SB>
      <O>tut</O> yeah no but things like things for the um <,> <O>tut</O>
      the dark ironies <?>could</?> produce of um having yourself as a
      <?>a</?> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPC209:1415:HM>
      that's yeah <{><[>that's <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1420:SB>
      <[>only <unclear>word</unclear></[></{> <unclear>word</unclear>
      of it like that <unclear>word</unclear> <?>only filmed a little
      bit</?> <,,><&>3</&>

  <WSC#DPC209:1425:SB>
      <{><[>but no</[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1430:HM>
      <[><.>i</.> i'm</[></{> just the greatest guy

  <WSC#DPC209:1435:HM>
      they wouldn't laugh <unclear>word</unclear> <laughs><unclear>word</unclear></laughs>
      <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1440:SB>
      but it's not such a silly idea

  <WSC#DPC209:1445:SB>
      <{><[>like <?>it</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC209:1450:SB>
      if your <.>i</.> the idea is your personality is that you don't
      want to show it to anyone else

  <WSC#DPC209:1455:SB>
      well then that's part of your personality in itself <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1460:HM>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC209:1465:HM>
      yeah i know <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1470:SB>
      so it's worth <slowly>exploring</slowly> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC209:1475:HM>
      mm

  <WSC#DPC209:1480:SB>
      that could be the basis

  <WSC#DPC209:1485:SB>
      <with pseudo American accent>and that <?>could</?> be some of
      the difficulties you experience with art the need to provide a
      structural basis behind which you can express your innermost
      thoughts</with pseudo American accent>

  <WSC#DPC209:1490:HM>
      that's that's great acting <O>laughs</O> <&>17:04</&>
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