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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:06</&>
  

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      well <{><[>where</[> do you think would be a good place to live

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      <[><&>sighs</&></[></{>

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      well somewhere <,> warm but not too warm <O>tut</O>

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      somewhere <O>tut</O> where <{><[>we can <,> <drawls>live legally</drawls></[>
      <O>laughs</O>

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      <[>this is going to end up being new zealand <?>isn't it</?></[></{>

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      <{><[><.>somewhere</.></[>

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      <[><?><.>well</.></?></[></{> where can i live legally except
      new zealand <,>

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      so you want to live somewhere illegally

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      well no but i mean <,>

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      i have residency permanent <laughs>residency</laughs> only in
      one country

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      <{><[><?>you</?> can only GET permanent residency</[> in another
      country through like living there for three years <drawls>or</drawls>
      five years or whatever you have to do <?>and</?> working there
      and stuff

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      <[>yeah well <?><.>what</.> what</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

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      well there's no point um arguing about this either you want to
      live somewhere where you CAN live or <latch>

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      well i mean we might as well live somewhere <?><.>w</.></?>
      where NEITHER of us can live

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      <softly><O>laughs</O></softly>

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      and then we both have to <laughs>work to get</laughs> to live
      there <&>1:00</&>

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      i didn't say that was <O>voc</O> out of the question

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      i'm just asking you whether you want to <,> live somewhere that
      you can definitely legally live <.>or</.>

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      but obviously you want to live somewhere where it might be
      <laughs>possible to live</laughs> <{><[>under <.>certain</.></[>
      <O>laughs</O> <latch>

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      <[>well i <.>mean</.></[></{>

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      well what are you trying to say

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      <?>that <.>just</.></?> <.>w</.> we can only <.>l</.> legally
      live in probably australia or western samoa or <?>somewhere</?>
      like that

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      no but i mean ultimately

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      obviously you think we can live legally somewhere else

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      i don't want to live anywhere illegally all right?

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      <?><O>voc</O></?> <latch>

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      i mean i just want to want to be realistic

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      yeah <?><.>a</.> <O>voc</O></?>

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      yeah okay so according to you then

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      okay <latch> where are the places that we can live then

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      well I can live in new zealand <O>laughs</O> <.>or</.>

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      england <latch>

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      australia <,>

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      no <.>i</.> i'd have to get a british passport <.>and</.>

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      yeah <.>a</.> and that would just cost you a bit of money

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      you could actually live there though

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      you'll HAVE that british passport

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      i can't GET the british passport <&>2:00</&>

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      but um if you <.>get</.>

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      it's easier in britain maybe to get a work permit

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      and just <,> work there <sighs>and then um</sighs>

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      it's NOT EASY to <laughs>get a work permit to work <{><[>in
      britain</laughs></[>

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      <[>it's <.>ea</.> it is</[></{> pretty easy to get a work permit
      <{><[>my um</[> yeah my um <,> mother's <drawls>cousin's</drawls>

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      <.>a</.> well you know leigh anne who used to teach jody's
      sister

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      <[>are you sure</[></{>

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      oh right yeah

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      her and her husband have been in <.>over</.> <.>al</.> all over
      europe <.>well</.>

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      working

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      well they've been in england working

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      yeah go from one job to another

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      do you have to have a job lined up first <,,>

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      before you go

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      <{><[>i</[> don't know

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      i don't think they had <,> anything

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      <softly>oh yeah</softly> <,,><&>3</&>

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      so okay you <laughs>want to live</laughs> somewhere where you
      can live legally

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      well i just want to know whether we're being <.>r</.> <{><[>really
      realistic</[> or whether we're saying if this happens and <,> if
      we're so rich that the country just WANTS us <&>3:00</&>

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      <[><O>clears throat</O></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <{><[><laughs>it could happen</laughs></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      okay

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      cos i can only live <laughs>in new zealand and australia</laughs>

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      <softly>i don't have another passport</softly>

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      i don't even <laughs>have a new zealand passport</laughs> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      you can't leave the country

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      <laughs>yeah</laughs> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>okay <laughs><unclear>word</unclear> that</[></{> narrows it
      down</laughs> um

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      and no one i talked to knows <laughs>anything about jamaica</laughs>

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      but why jamaica

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      because it's near all those um ethnic cultures <.>except</.> <{><[>um</[>

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      <[>but <.>what's</.></[></{> what's so important about living
      near different ethnicities

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      cos it's culturally <laughs>enriching</laughs>

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      and at the same <{1><[1>time</[1> they speak english and stuff
      there and so it's not important that i don't know spanish or
      anything <,>

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      cos i mean there's just no way i don't think that i could go and
      LIVE in colombia or something like that

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      <{2><[2>because i don't speak spanish</[2>

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      <[1><?><.>but</.></?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>but i think i think</[2></{2> there are other places where
      you can find lots of different ethnic <{><[>backgrounds mixing

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      london for example</[> <&>4:00</&>

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      <[><O>laughs</O>

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      <?>you're talking</?> about</[></{> australia <{1><[1><O>laughs</O></[1>

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      <laughs>london <{2><[2>for example</laughs></[2> there'll be
      lots <{3><[3>of jamaicans there</[3>

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      <[1><laughs>oh no</laughs></[1></{1> <[2><O>laughs</O> lots of
      <.>big</.></[2></{2>

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      <[3>touristy city kind of</[3></{3> places what?

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      there'll be a lot of jamaicans there but LONDON is not warm

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      it <{><[><.>is</.></[>

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      <[>all the</[></{> time

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      so warm <latch> all the time <latch> when i <{1><[1>am there</[1>
      in the summer <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>

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      <[1>winter</[1></{1>

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      <[2>when you were there</[2></{2> in the summer what how many
      times was <laughs>that</laughs>

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      mm <,,> <O>tut</O>

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      <.>but</.> <O>voc</O> you don't want to go somewhere that's
      going to be too hot

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      but i don't want to go somewhere that it's going to snow <.>i</.>

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      which is london surely

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      it snows in invercargill doesn't it

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      NO

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      well queenstown

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      <laughs>must snow there

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      they go skiing there</laughs> <O>laughs</O>

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      well <laughs>yeah</laughs> <{><[>but i don't live in</[>
      queenstown

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      <[><.>well</.> well there you go</[></{>

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      no but close enough for <{><[>it to count</[>

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      <[>i DO NOT</[></{>

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      no i don't <latch>

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      close enough to be freezing

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      okay

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      <laughs>well</laughs> <&>sighs</&>

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      okay <?>and now <.>what</.></?>

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      <{><[><?>well okay okay</?> <O>laughs</O>

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      okay</[>

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      <[><?>well okay</?> <laughs>i like snow just cos i live in
      invercargill cos of <?>i <.>didn</.></?></laughs></[></{>

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      i didn't have much choice i was kind of born there <,>
      <&>5:00</&>

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      <O>tut</O> okay so we're cutting off the top of the globe and
      the BOTTOM and we're looking <drawls><.>somewhere</.></drawls>

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      <laughs>in the middle</laughs> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>near the</[></{> equator but not too near it

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      <{><[>because i hate the heat</[>

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      <[>well what about</[></{> south america

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      <{><[>it's <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      no

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      <[><?>what</?> about south africa</[></{>

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      <.>i</.> <O>voc</O> i think that would be <{1><[1>rather an</[1>
      intriguing <{2><[2>place to live <O>laughs</O> south america</[2>

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      <[1>no</[1></{1>

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      <[2>no <unclear>word</unclear> <?>we're not going to south
      africa</?></[2></{2>

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      no what i'm <{><[>saying is it doesn't necessarily have snow
      there</[> does it

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      <[>isn't that really poor and horrible</[></{> <,,>

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      <?>and it's</?> <?>in</?> the bottom <,,>

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      at the top it snows <?>a lot eh</?> like in canada and u s s r

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      well <?>snowy <{><[>sort of</?></[>

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      <[>mm</[></{> well i'm just cutting off antarctica basically <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>oh okay</[></{>

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      <{><[>because we're at the bottom</[> and we don't

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      <[>i thought you were <?><.>talking</.></?></[></{>

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      yeah

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      we're not too bad

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      hey we could live here <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><?>i knew <.>it</.></?>

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      i knew you'd say that</[></{> <,>

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      um <,> australia

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      i knew you going to say that too

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      no but look i think that would be such <{1><[1>an interesting</[1>
      place to <{2><[2>go to</[2> <&>6:00</&> for a while <latch>

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      <[1><&>sighs</&></[1></{1>

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      <[2>why</[2></{2>

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      why <,>

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      <O>tut</O> because they're so <drawls>weird</drawls> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <O>laughs</O>

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      i know someone who went <{><[>there for a holiday and they hated
      all the <?>australian</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>and you never <.>meet</.> you never meet australians in real</[></{>
      life you

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      just see them on soap operas

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      oh <.>y</.> <.>y</.> you DO meet australians in <{><[>real</[>
      life

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      kurt's flatmate's from australia

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      <[><O>tut</O></[></{>

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      i haven't so far <,>

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      which one

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      angie

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      can't you tell by her accent

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      <{><[>your brother was <.>in</.></[> your brother was in
      australia and HE sounds like an australian

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      <[>i haven't spoken to her</[></{>

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      no not <{><[>to me</[>

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      <[>he might</[></{> as well be one

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      he DOES to ME

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      <O>clears throat</O>

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      yeah but you <.>don't</.> you don't know <.>w</.>

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      the way he speaks normally

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      he normally speaks like an australian

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      this is what you're saying

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      <laughs><?>well</?></laughs> i don't <.>know</.> <{><[>i don't
      know what you're hearing</[> when you listen to him

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      he <{><[>sounds australian</[>

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      <[>i don't know what I'M</[></{> hearing

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      like an accent like on t v <,,>

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      <drawls>nah</drawls>

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      OH <.>so</.> what's her name on home and away

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      sophie? is that her name

  <WSC#DPC241:0885:AD>
      <?>off</?> sultana bran <&>7:00</&>

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      yeah <,>

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      her accent my god it's AWFUL

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      yeah australians have awful <{><[>accents</[>

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      <[>no but</[></{> then i was listening to her accent
      specifically and the guy she was talking to <O>voc</O> his
      accent was not as bad

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      so <.>it</.> it varies

  <WSC#DPC241:0915:AD>
      yeah <.>but</.> <,> <{><[>i don't like it at all but <&>sighs</&></[>

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      <[>i <.>think</.> i think it's funny because <.>y</.></[></{>
      because you just think <.>my</.> <O>laughs</O> i speak a lot
      better than these <{><[><?>people</?> <O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>yeah <.>and</.> and you</[></{> give your brother how many
      years and he speaks like them

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      he doesn't though

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      he DOES to me

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      <{><[>he <?>sounds like</?> <unclear>word</unclear> <?>australian</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>no i think he's <.>al</.>

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      i think</[></{> he's always spoken like that

  <WSC#DPC241:0955:AD>
      <laughs>he's <{><[>always spoken like an <?>australian</?></laughs></[>

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      <[><laughs>oh well i don't know</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:0965:BG>
      i'm just guessing</laughs> <O>laughs</O> <latch>

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      yeah exactly

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      well see this is the thing

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      i think that if you're going to go to a country with a funny
      accent you'd better LIKE the accent <.>otherwise</.> <.>cos</.>

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      <.>but</.> <{><[><.>but</.> yeah</[>

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      <[>you're going</[></{> to be in trouble if you pick it up and
      then you're going to sound like that

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      and i wouldn't <{><[>want to like sound like an australian</[>

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      <[><.>but</.> if you sound like</[></{> that then <.>you</.>
      then <.>it</.> <.>you</.> it's not going to worry you because
      <.>you</.> you can't hear it <{><[>and <.>it</.></[>

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      <[>i know</[></{> but i don't like it and i don't want to sound
      like that

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      well it'd be all right as long as you were there

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      but if you moved out of the country <{><[>you wouldn't want to
      be mistaken for an australian</[>

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      <[><drawls>yeah</drawls> well exactly

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      <?>well</?> i don't want</[></{> to live in <{1><[1>australia

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      <laughs><unclear>word</unclear> <?>so</?></laughs></[1> i'd be
      moving out of the country pretty quick

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      so <{2><[2>i suppose <unclear>word</unclear></[2>

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1> <&>8:00</&>

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      <[2>well your plans <.>are</.></[2></{2> are more to go and live
      somewhere

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      i want to <?><.>e</.></?> experiment with everywhere

  <WSC#DPC241:1055:BG>
      australia first

  <WSC#DPC241:1060:AD>
      oh this is costing more bother

  <WSC#DPC241:1065:AD>
      <.>at</.> at least if you just GO somewhere and just start
      working <{><[>there</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1070:BG>
      <[>costing</[></{> more

  <WSC#DPC241:1075:BG>
      i thought we weren't being realistic about this

  <WSC#DPC241:1080:AD>
      OH i WAS almost

  <WSC#DPC241:1085:BG>
      jamaica

  <WSC#DPC241:1090:BG>
      you were just going to GET citizenship for <laughs>jamaica</laughs>
      <?>or</?> <{><[><.>resident</.></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1095:AD>
      <[>i was going</[></{> to find out how to do it <{1><[1>for a
      start</[1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1100:AD>
      go and visit the place <,>

  <WSC#DPC241:1105:AD>
      wind up a job come back <{2><[2><unclear>word</unclear></[2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1110:BG>
      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1115:BG>
      <[2>wind up a</[2></{2> <laughs>job</laughs> <O>laughs</O>
      <latch> mm <latch> <laughs>doing what</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC241:1120:AD>
      whatever i can do <,,>

  <WSC#DPC241:1125:BG>
      and <{><[>what's that</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1130:AD>
      <[>it <.>depends</.></[></{> it depends what the criteria for
      getting in is

  <WSC#DPC241:1135:BG>
      well i think everywhere is pretty hard so <?>is</?> that really
      narrows our choices down

  <WSC#DPC241:1140:AD>
      but everywhere has different thingies

  <WSC#DPC241:1145:BG>
      nowhere in the world is easy to go and live

  <WSC#DPC241:1150:AD>
      why not

  <WSC#DPC241:1155:BG>
      cos that's the way the world is now <,>

  <WSC#DPC241:1160:BG>
      look after your own

  <WSC#DPC241:1165:AD>
      but if you're <{1><[1>educated</[1> it <.>like</.>

  <WSC#DPC241:1170:AD>
      that's got to count for something <{2><[2><.>like</.> <?>well
      <.>i'm</.> <.>i'm</.></?></[2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1175:BG>
      <[1><O>voc</O></[1></{1> <&>9:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC241:1180:BG>
      <[2>a lot of educated people</[2></{2> out there

  <WSC#DPC241:1185:AD>
      i'm not a refugee or anything

  <WSC#DPC241:1190:AD>
      i'm not a <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1195:BG>
      <[>well think about how hard it is to get</[></{> into new
      zealand

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      yeah but new zealand is <.>a</.> um <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC241:1205:BG>
      is a <{><[>what <O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1210:AD>
      <[>o e c d <laughs>country</laughs> <O>laughs</O></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1215:AD>
      <laughs>jamaica might not be</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC241:1220:BG>
      mm oh i wouldn't have a clue

  <WSC#DPC241:1225:AD>
      because <?>um</?> i mean yeah people leave these places like

  <WSC#DPC241:1230:AD>
      what if you want to go to nicaragua or something

  <WSC#DPC241:1235:BG>
      what if you do

  <WSC#DPC241:1240:AD>
      well shouldn't it be easy to get into a place like that where
      everybody wants to leave

  <WSC#DPC241:1245:BG>
      i

  <WSC#DPC241:1250:BG>
      don't know

  <WSC#DPC241:1255:BG>
      i really wouldn't have <,> <softly><.>a</.> any idea</softly>

  <WSC#DPC241:1260:AD>
      because why did germany have open policy of immigration

  <WSC#DPC241:1265:AD>
      was that something to do with the war

  <WSC#DPC241:1270:BG>
      yeah oh <.>th</.> they were taking in refugees

  <WSC#DPC241:1275:BG>
      <O>voc</O> yeah

  <WSC#DPC241:1280:AD>
      for years

  <WSC#DPC241:1285:BG>
      yeah but that's refugees

  <WSC#DPC241:1290:BG>
      that's not people from new zealand

  <WSC#DPC241:1295:AD>
      yeah but they just <.>had</.> easier to get in didn't they

  <WSC#DPC241:1300:BG>
      i'm not sure

  <WSC#DPC241:1305:BG>
      i think it might have been for specific countries <&>10:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC241:1310:AD>
      mm countries that hitler had killed or something

  <WSC#DPC241:1315:BG>
      mm

  <WSC#DPC241:1320:AD>
      oh i don't know

  <WSC#DPC241:1325:BG>
      so anyway we'll start in australia for a couple of years <,>

  <WSC#DPC241:1330:BG>
      and then <.>we'll</.> then we'll <{1><[1>go somewhere <,> remote</[1>
      to get rid of the of the accent <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2> so
      that not <{3><[3><?>too many people hear us</?> <O>laughs</O></[3>

  <WSC#DPC241:1335:AD>
      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1340:AD>
      <[2>REMOTE?</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1345:AD>
      <[3>jamaica people hear us <O>laughs</O></[3></{3>

  <WSC#DPC241:1350:AD>
      <groans>oh</groans> do we have to go to australia for a couple
      of years

  <WSC#DPC241:1355:BG>
      mhm i think that would be cool

  <WSC#DPC241:1360:AD>
      why <,>

  <WSC#DPC241:1365:BG>
      are you not at ALL interested in australia

  <WSC#DPC241:1370:AD>
      <drawls>no</drawls> not at all

  <WSC#DPC241:1375:AD>
      never ever have EVER been

  <WSC#DPC241:1380:BG>
      but it's so big <.>does</.>

  <WSC#DPC241:1385:BG>
      doesn't it make you wonder what's there

  <WSC#DPC241:1390:AD>
      <.>n</.> no i've never been interested in australia

  <WSC#DPC241:1395:BG>
      i'm interested in EVERYWHERE <{><[>including australia</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1400:BG>
      well not russia

  <WSC#DPC241:1405:AD>
      <[>i'm not</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1410:AD>
      why not I'M interested <laughs>in russia</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC241:1415:BG>
      too cold and bleak

  <WSC#DPC241:1420:AD>
      not always

  <WSC#DPC241:1425:AD>
      it'd be interesting all that um

  <WSC#DPC241:1430:BG>
      i've seen them on t v

  <WSC#DPC241:1435:BG>
      it looks horrible

  <WSC#DPC241:1440:AD>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC241:1445:AD>
      the people or the buildings

  <WSC#DPC241:1450:AD>
      <{><[><?>i was going to</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[>
      buildings

  <WSC#DPC241:1455:BG>
      <[>all of them</[></{> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC241:1460:BG>
      oh some of the buildings are okay but yeah <{1><[1>the <.>pe</.></[1>
      the people look like um <laughs>rotten potatoes</laughs> <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1465:AD>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1470:AD>
      <[2><laughs><?>rotten potatoes define that</?></laughs></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1475:BG>
      you know kind of pasty kind of <.>s</.> oh

  <WSC#DPC241:1480:BG>
      <{><[>yeah you know</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1485:AD>
      <[><?>well aren't potatoes</[></{> brown</?> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1490:BG>
      <[><.>y</.> <.>y</.> well i was just thinking of the</[></{>
      SHAPE of potatoes more <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1495:AD>
      <[><groans>oh</groans> <O>laughs</O> <laughs>you're nuts</laughs></[></{>
      <laughs>rotten potatoes</laughs> <{><[><O>voc</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1500:BG>
      <[><.>i</.></[></{> it was just <{1><[1>a kind of <?>an example</?></[1>
      <O>tut</O> just sort of yeah ROUND and <laughs>with <{2><[2><?>big
      bulges</?></laughs> <O>laughs</O> well not</[2> round but you
      know the general shape <O>laughs</O> okay

  <WSC#DPC241:1505:BG>
      <O>laughs</O> okay potato was a bad example <.>but</.>

  <WSC#DPC241:1510:AD>
      <[1><?>the shape</?></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1515:AD>
      <[2><unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPC241:1520:AD>
      <laughs><?>ROUND</?></laughs> <O>laughs</O> <?>bulges?</?></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1525:AD>
      yeah <laughs>i think so</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC241:1530:BG>
      yeah strange looking foreign kind of faces <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC241:1535:AD>
      well they are foreign

  <WSC#DPC241:1540:AD>
      <{><[><?>well zealand's <.>strange</.></?></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1545:BG>
      <[>i know

  <WSC#DPC241:1550:BG>
      but</[></{> <.>i</.> i find it hard to accept um <O>voc</O>
      people who have white skin as looking different from us cos i
      <.>ex</.> <{><[>i <.>expect</.></[> <&>12:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC241:1555:AD>
      <[>but they've</[></{> got asian blood and stuff <{><[>that's</[>
      why they've got <?>slanted eyes</?> and stuff

  <WSC#DPC241:1560:BG>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1565:BG>
      it's <.>just</.> <.>it</.> it looks really ODD to me

  <WSC#DPC241:1570:BG>
      i can't come to grips with it

  <WSC#DPC241:1575:AD>
      <.>well</.>

  <WSC#DPC241:1580:BG>
      and yeah <{1><[1>their language <,> it would be</[1> so so hard
      to communicate with people like that <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2>
      <laughs>people who couldn't speak english</laughs>

  <WSC#DPC241:1585:AD>
      <[1>there's got to be more <?><.>of</.> yeah</?></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC241:1590:AD>
      <[2><O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC241:1595:AD>
      <?>what is that supposed to mean</?></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1600:AD>
      yeah good

  <WSC#DPC241:1605:AD>
      and surely that would be the same <{><[><?><.>with</.> <O>laughs</O></?></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1610:BG>
      <[>in australia

  <WSC#DPC241:1615:BG>
      <laughs>no i don't think so</laughs></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1620:AD>
      no i <.>mean</.> <O>voc</O>

  <WSC#DPC241:1625:AD>
      WHAT? what are you trying to say

  <WSC#DPC241:1630:AD>
      i don't understand what you're saying

  <WSC#DPC241:1635:BG>
      i don't <.>like</.> <{><[>i don't like the DESPAIR</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1640:AD>
      <[>what about <unclear>word</unclear> <?>they've <.>got</.></?></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1645:BG>
      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1650:AD>
      <[><groans>oh</groans> oh sorry</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC241:1655:BG>
      well just you know when you see it on t v <.>a</.>

  <WSC#DPC241:1660:BG>
      anyway i mean it might not be like that in reality

  <WSC#DPC241:1665:BG>
      i don't know

  <WSC#DPC241:1670:AD>
      mm <latch> having never been there

  <WSC#DPC241:1675:BG>
      <O>tut</O> but like you know

  <WSC#DPC241:1680:AD>
      and you've got no <{><[>interest in <?>going</?> <unclear>word</unclear>
      <?>there</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1685:BG>
      <[>maybe it's just the</[></{> poverty

  <WSC#DPC241:1690:BG>
      um well i mean i don't want to go to siberia or anywhere like
      that

  <WSC#DPC241:1695:AD>
      no just <{><[>moscow or something</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1700:BG>
      <[>but <.>just</.> yeah</[></{> oh yeah that would be okay

  <WSC#DPC241:1705:BG>
      <{1><[1>chernobyl</[1> <laughs>places <{2><[2>like that</laughs>
      <O>laughs</O></[2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1710:AD>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1> <&>13:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC241:1715:AD>
      <[2><laughs>NO</laughs></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC241:1720:AD>
      oh good one

  <WSC#DPC241:1725:BG>
      yeah a <.>o</.> a one city kind of stop

  <WSC#DPC241:1730:BG>
      you know a two day tour of <{><[>the place</[>

  <WSC#DPC241:1735:AD>
      <[>yeah</[></{> <&>13:06</&>
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