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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>2:05</&>
  

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      so i don't know er i mean it <.>h</.> halfway through i was sort
      of um <O>tut</O> oh almost bored with it you <{><[>know and</[>
      then it sort of

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      <[>mhm</[></{>

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      mm yeah it <{><[>seemed</[> very long that kind of story and one
      kept going back to big hunks of it

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      <[><?>you know</?></[></{>

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      <laughs>yes</laughs>

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      and it didn't evolve very far

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      yeah

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      yeah that's true

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      but um <O>laughs</O> <,>

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      now the other thing we can talk about is i did hear back from
      radio new zealand about <?><&>name of composition</&></?>
      <foreign=German>tanz</foreign=German> and they turned it down

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      oh yeah

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      and that was martin

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      devoy <latch>

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      devoy who has said he would get in touch to talk about it but he
      hasn't

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      oh yeah

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      so that was that

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      yes <?>well</?> be interesting <,>

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      perhaps um we should ring him

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      yeah i can't imagine that <,,> it it was er i mean it was
      probably just a way of explaining why

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      yes <latch>

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      rather than thinking of ways to do it <&>3:00</&>

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      yes <O>tut</O>

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      although you see he did <.>s</.> the <.>nigh</.> <latch>

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      mm <latch> the night that he CAME

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      yeah

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      he said to me um something like um you know he didn't he didn't
      say oh we should broadcast this he said um we should do this
      again or something <.>that</.> <{><[>as if</[>

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      <[><?>oh</?></[></{> right

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      well i suspect that the reason they'd have turned it down would
      be technical wouldn't it i mean they just think that the

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      well the performance wasn't <latch>

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      yeah <?>great</?>

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      quite up to broadcast standard <{1><[1>and i thought</[1> that
      at the time

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      and i just thought that the way as i said in my note one way
      round that would be to have say heke and me or <{2><[2>and</[2>
      you sort of talking about

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      yes and just take <latch>

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      each scene and perhaps describing <{><[>the <drawls>setting</drawls>
      and things</[> to to make it put it in a context which

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      <[>mm <,> yes</[></{>

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      yes <latch>

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      clearly wasn't their normal

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      yes

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      whatever they consider their standard to be

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      yeah <latch>

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      anyway that's it <&>4:00</&>

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      mm

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      be interesting to see what <title><?>bitter calm</?></title> is
      like

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      exactly it's getting a huge amount of publicity i <{><[>suppose</[>
      just by virtue of it having been picked up by the festival

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      yeah yeah

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      but er <{1><[1><?>but it's</?></[1> sort of i mean i can't help
      <{2><[2><O>laughs</O></[2> noticing the comparison because i
      mean <{3><[3>it seems</[3> as if i mean it's on a similar scale
      and <{4><[4>and</[4> <?>is it <&>name</&> <{5><[5>so i just</?></[5>

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      <[3>mm</[3></{3>

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      <[4>mm</[4></{4>

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      <[5>i don't know about</[5></{5> length it's probably quite a
      lot longer

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      is it do you think <{><[>mm</[> mm

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      <[>i suspect</[></{>

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      with the chorus and

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      yeah

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      but <.>i</.> i've never i heard it in the last festival in that
      concert performance did you

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      no i was <{><[>away mm</[>

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      <[><?>no</?> oh right</[></{> and the vocal writing was um i
      mean it just <?><.>st</.></?> didn't sound as though he knew
      where to put in

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      yeah

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      er a higher i mean a higher soprano singing quite fast narrative
      about top g just absurd

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      yeah <latch>

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      couldn't hear a thing

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      yeah

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      and um the chorus writing from i've heard from a couple of
      chorus people is apparently not too good

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      but the <.>orche</.> i think it's like a sort of orchestral work
      really

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      yeah

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      and that's where his <.>for</.> that's his forte

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      yeah <&>5:00</&>

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      he's a <,,> good at that big sweep and the really dense <{><[>textured</[>
      stuff

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      <[>yes</[></{>

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      yeah oh it'll be interesting to hear it

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      mm <,> but um

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      <O>tut</O> well i think radio new zealand could do a lot worse
      than just commission a a recording of it <{><[>of</[> of
      <foreign=German>tanz</foreign=German>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      that'd be good wouldn't it

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      mm <,,> <{><[>because</[> um

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> <,,>

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      i mean it wouldn't you know it's not that big a thing for them
      to do is it but er

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      i don't know when did they last do anything on that kind of
      scale

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      been a while

  <WSC#DPC310:0420:HC>
      yeah

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      still um perhaps the <.>c</.> composers' foundation or

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      yes

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      something arts council no not arts council wouldn't mm <O>tut</O>

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      oh well we'll see <{><[><O>inhales</O></[>

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      and i told you about the thomas' enthusiasm <&>pronounced
      ensusiasm</&> for distributing it overseas and things <latch>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      and then he went

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      yeah

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      backed <{><[>out</[>

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      <[>completely</[></{> reversed his opinion a <&>6:00</&> week
      later <O>inhales</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>yeah very odd</[></{>

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      typical thomas though <latch>

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      i guess so i

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      i just kind of i think it was sort of moralistic <&>electric
      appliance starts up</&> reason

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      <?>yes yeah</?> <latch>

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      <?>i'll shut the door</?> <&>someone gets up and shuts door to
      cut out noise</&>

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      yes he's <.>a</.> but i mean i i <&>door shuts</&> not that i
      ever have much to do with thomas but i just find him completely
      unpredictable

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      <{><[>you know</[> he just

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      yeah oh he is really

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      you don't know er which way he's gonna jump

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      <O>laughs</O> yeah <.>i</.> er that's you know i was quite it
      took me a long time to go round with the tape of it <,>

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      i mean it was several months after <{1><[1>it had</[1> happened
      and he'd been expressing interest in hearing it

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      and i just thought he wouldn't like the style of musical <{2><[2>language</[2>
      because it was kind of viennese

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yes</[2></{2>

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      yeah <latch>

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      um <O>tut</O> leanings but he didn't complain about that at all

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      in fact he thought everybody who said it sounded like burgh
      burgh didn't know what they were talking <{1><[1>about</[1>

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      so i mean and i agree really <{2><[2>that you'd</[2> only have
      to listen to some burgh <{3><[3>to hear the difference</[3> <O>inhales</O>

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      but um but he took er offence to the <,> the way that new
      zealanders were portrayed essentially

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

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      <[3>yeah yeah</[3></{3> <&>7:00</&>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      <O>laughs</O> <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>

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      <[>yeah</[></{>

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      maybe it was too close to the <O>voc</O>

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      i mean it was kind of his family in a way i <{><[>suppose you
      could say</[>

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      <[>i guess so yes</[></{> yeah

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      rich farming

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      certainly not mine <.>in</.> in in that sense <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>
      mm

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      <[>no</[></{>

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      no well it's so far from being my family that i <{1><[1><?>and
      yet</?> as</[1> you know i found it quite hard to BELIEVE <{2><[2>in</[2>
      the first place

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      <[1><?>yeah i know</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      right

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      um <O>tut</O> that sort of behaviour could go on but i mean
      obviously i mean ludwig had plenty of <{><[>examples and
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>yeah no i i</[></{> i identified with the <?>the</?> whole
      thing quite strongly except for the kind of rich <,> veneer that
      was supposed to be there although it wasn't evident in that

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      yeah <latch>

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      way it was presented really except by implication but that up
      until act three i thought it was entirely plausible <{><[><O>laughs</O>
      <laughs>actually</laughs></[>

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      and then after that well we can go <.>in</.> into the realm of
      theatre

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      <[>yes yeah</[></{>

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      yeah

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      yes <&>8:00</&>

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      yes i must say when i eventually watched the um the video i did
      feel <O>inhales</O> really sorry that ludwig hadn't got the
      lighting the way he wanted <{><[>it</[>

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      <?>i mean it did</?>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      looks <{><[>pretty</[> bad <latch>

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> it did show up all the cracks
      <{1><[1>in the</[1> in there

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      and as for the red um <O>tut</O> sort of aura around the
      swastika <{2><[2>i mean</[2> that just seemed so <{3><[3>tacky</[3>

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      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

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      <[2><?>oh</?></[2></{2>

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      <[3>bit corny</[3></{3> really <{><[>wasn't it <,> yeah</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:0745:HC>
      <[>yeah <,> mm</[></{> and it i mean <.>o</.> on the video it
      didn't really look <,,> as it was meant to anyway

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      i mean you could hardly believe that this was a freshly painted
      <{1><[1><?>thing</?> thing</[1> on the door

  <WSC#DPC310:0755:HC>
      <{2><[2>it was a</[2> bit um <,> <{3><[3>projected</[3> image or
      something <{4><[4>you know</[4>

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      <[1>mm mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>that's right</[2></{2>

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      <[3><unclear>word</unclear></[3></{3>

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      <[4>yeah</[4></{4> yeah yes i i that's why i i wasn't really
      rushing to give you a copy of it cos i knew that er cos you
      hadn't really seen it at all

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      <O>clears throat</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:0785:WK>
      up till that point <{><[><?>had you</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC310:0790:HC>
      <[>no</[></{> well i mean you you sort of see it and you don't
      <{><[>you know</[> it just sort of <O>laughs</O> <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      <unclear>word</unclear> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:0805:HC>
      not really taking in um you know

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      yeah <&>9:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC310:0815:HC>
      what what's happening in a way um <O>voc</O> but um oh it was
      good to see it

  <WSC#DPC310:0820:HC>
      <{><[><?>but</[> then</?> of course again i mean i <,> went and
      watched it on clara's <.>m</.> machine

  <WSC#DPC310:0825:HC>
      and and the other <.>g</.> great pity of that was <?>the the</?>
      i mean the sound quality on the video was just

  <WSC#DPC310:0830:WK>
      <[>mm</[></{>

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      mm

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      so bad that <{><[>i</[> should have tried to synchronise it with
      the the tape or something <?>you know</?>

  <WSC#DPC310:0845:WK>
      <[>yep</[></{>

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      yeah that would be very difficult to do

  <WSC#DPC310:0855:WK>
      <{><[>but</[> yeah no it's <.>ho</.> it's okay on the super v h
      s but as soon it's as dubbed onto a standard one it

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      just <{><[>loses it</[>

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      <[>it</[></{> disappears completely

  <WSC#DPC310:0875:HC>
      yeah

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      and the dynamics are compressed and

  <WSC#DPC310:0885:HC>
      <laughs>yeah</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:0890:WK>
      and it's just <?><laughs>fucking</laughs></?> ghastly

  <WSC#DPC310:0895:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:0900:WK>
      <O>laughs</O> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:0905:HC>
      mm

  <WSC#DPC310:0910:WK>
      anyway

  <WSC#DPC310:0915:HC>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:0920:WK>
      <O>tut</O> <,,> now what was our other topic

  <WSC#DPC310:0925:WK>
      <quietly>there was something else i had in mind</quietly>

  <WSC#DPC310:0930:HC>
      oh i know <{><[>have you been</[> into that um little have i
      been asked you if you've been into that cafe up in kelburn yet

  <WSC#DPC310:0935:WK>
      <[><?><O>laughs</O></?></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:0940:WK>
      no which one

  <WSC#DPC310:0945:HC>
      the one that used to be woodlands

  <WSC#DPC310:0950:WK>
      oh right <&>10:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC310:0955:HC>
      they've got um <,> a stereo system in there

  <WSC#DPC310:0960:WK>
      mm

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      with these little speakers that are THAT big

  <WSC#DPC310:0970:WK>
      oh god <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:0975:HC>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:0980:WK>
      is it a bose one

  <WSC#DPC310:0985:HC>
      i <{><[>think</[> it probably is

  <WSC#DPC310:0990:WK>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:0995:WK>
      yeah <{1><[1>have you heard it</[1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1000:WK>
      yes yes <{2><[2>brilliant <?>that's right</?></[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1005:HC>
      <[1>it's all white</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1010:HC>
      <[2>i liked it it's absolutely</[2></{2> brilliant

  <WSC#DPC310:1015:HC>
      there's a bass <{><[>unit</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1020:WK>
      <[>that's</[></{> right

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      which just <{><[>sits</[> on the wall somewhere

  <WSC#DPC310:1030:WK>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1035:WK>
      MM

  <WSC#DPC310:1040:HC>
      and then <{><[><?>the speakers</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1045:WK>
      <[>can be</[></{> anywhere i think <{><[>it can</[> be outside
      actually

  <WSC#DPC310:1050:HC>
      <[>yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1055:HC>
      yeah <unclear>word</unclear> <{><[>and</[> honestly you get
      <latch>

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      <[><O>exhales</O></[></{> <O>laughs</O> yeah <{1><[1>that's</[1>
      the latest thing <{2><[2>they've</[2> got a whole <?>new</?>
      series of those

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1075:HC>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1080:WK>
      those ones going from relatively inexpensive up to enormously
      expensive and they seem to use the reflections off the wall in
      some particular way <O>voc</O>

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      did you actually hear it in <{><[>operation</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1090:HC>
      <[>yes yeah</[></{> he was playing some sort of <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1095:WK>
      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1100:HC>
      <.>j</.> jazz <{1><[1>in the</[1> <?>background</?>

  <WSC#DPC310:1105:HC>
      er it was sounded tremendous i <{2><[2>thought</[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1110:WK>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1115:WK>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2> <O>inhales</O> yes that might be the next
      investment no no <O>both laugh</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:1120:WK>
      i've thought that

  <WSC#DPC310:1125:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1130:WK>
      if i needed a stereo i'd <.>je</.> definitely look into that
      sort of thing simply because it's so disCREET

  <WSC#DPC310:1135:HC>
      yeah <,>

  <WSC#DPC310:1140:HC>
      <{1><[1>yes well i</[1> i thought a pair of those would go quite
      nicely in our sort of kitchen area you know <{2><[2><?>but</?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1145:WK>
      <[1><?>mm</?></[1></{1> <&>11:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC310:1150:WK>
      <[2>oh right then</[2></{2> you could extend from your own
      stereo <?>for</?> the other stereo out

  <WSC#DPC310:1155:HC>
      yeah <&>11:05</&> <&>section where participants talk about
      recording not transcribed</&> <&>11:28</&>

  <WSC#DPC310:1160:WK>
      the meeting was good yesterday

  <WSC#DPC310:1165:HC>
      oh good <{1><[1>yeah</[1> yes <?>it's um</?> <,> seemed an awful
      lot to get through but <{2><[2>er</[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1170:WK>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1175:WK>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2> yeah it was enormously long but <{1><[1>er</[1>
      <,> <.>s</.> everything came out <{2><[2>fine</[2> i think

  <WSC#DPC310:1180:HC>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1185:HC>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1190:HC>
      yeah <,> well I just hope that you know we're gonna get some
      some word on these secretarial positions <{1><[1>quickly cos er</[1>
      could get a bit DIRE if we're sort of <{2><[2>getting</[2> in to
      term time with just cath here <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1195:WK>
      <[1>mm mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1200:WK>
      <[2>that's right</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1205:WK>
      oh yeah cos <&>12:00</&> she's not all that familiar with
      macintoshes either <{><[>is she</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1210:HC>
      <[>no</[></{> she's never worked with them before

  <WSC#DPC310:1215:WK>
      so she's learning all the way at <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1220:HC>
      yeah although i must say she's doing pretty well with that in
      <{1><[1>view</[1> of the fact that it's her first time on <{2><[2>one</[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1225:WK>
      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1230:WK>
      <[2>mm</[2></{2> mm

  <WSC#DPC310:1235:HC>
      and um

  <WSC#DPC310:1240:WK>
      yeah she seems very bright and <?>um</?>

  <WSC#DPC310:1245:HC>
      yeah <{><[><?>after cindy</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1250:WK>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{> on the phone <{><[>and that</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1255:HC>
      <[>that's right</[></{> yeah she's GREAT at handling messages
      <{><[>and so on <?>that's true</?></[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1260:WK>
      <[>yes i had a little</[></{> green little yellow stickers in my
      basket <{><[>all</[> the time all <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1265:HC>
      <[>yes</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1270:HC>
      yes and she's really good about um sort of <,> giving people a
      good reason for why they can't talk to you at this moment you
      know

  <WSC#DPC310:1275:HC>
      <{><[>she</[> doesn't er

  <WSC#DPC310:1280:WK>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1285:WK>
      just

  <WSC#DPC310:1290:HC>
      just to <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1295:WK>
      not here <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1300:HC>
      not give the impression that you're off at the beach <{><[>or
      something</[>

  <WSC#DPC310:1305:WK>
      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{> <O>both laugh</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:1310:WK>
      <laughs>that's right <,>

  <WSC#DPC310:1315:WK>
      oh</laughs> oh good <O>laughs</O> <,> well i will be at the
      beach hopefully <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1320:HC>
      <O>laughs</O> <laughs>yes</laughs> <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1325:WK>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:1330:HC>
      yes oh well <{><[>last</[> chance i guess

  <WSC#DPC310:1335:WK>
      <[><?>this is</?></[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1340:WK>
      yeah well this is we haven't been north of paekak all summer

  <WSC#DPC310:1345:HC>
      gosh <&>13:00</&>

  <WSC#DPC310:1350:WK>
      and with relatives coming and

  <WSC#DPC310:1355:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1360:WK>
      and my children staying

  <WSC#DPC310:1365:HC>
      yeah <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1370:WK>
      it's been a an about town sort of thing so <{1><[1><O>inhales</O></[1>
      <.>it</.> <O>exhales</O> try to er we set aside this weekend but
      in fact i mean so many things have come up that i should have
      stayed here for

  <WSC#DPC310:1375:WK>
      <{2><[2>just</[2> incredible

  <WSC#DPC310:1380:HC>
      <[1><?>aha</?></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1385:HC>
      <[2>yeah</[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1390:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1395:WK>
      rehearsals for alistair's band

  <WSC#DPC310:1400:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1405:WK>
      putting together the video <,> all day today <,> um bertie
      potter's birthday party oh and um <,> <O>tut</O> tennis <{><[>interclub</[>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPC310:1410:HC>
      <[>oh yeah</[></{>

  <WSC#DPC310:1415:HC>
      <?>yes</?>

  <WSC#DPC310:1420:WK>
      but anyway i was we were determined that we'd <{1><[1>actually</[1>
      go and simply everything would have to be shelved because martha
      gets very busy with lectures <{2><[2>and things</[2>

  <WSC#DPC310:1425:HC>
      <[1>yeah</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPC310:1430:HC>
      <[2>yes</[2></{2> once <?>we're</?> in beginning of term yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1435:WK>
      well even now she's <.>ha</.> got things like <O>inhales</O>
      <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1440:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1445:WK>
      new staff and yeah whole heaps

  <WSC#DPC310:1450:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1455:WK>
      um this is it

  <WSC#DPC310:1460:HC>
      so <.>y</.> are you going to paekak or are you going
      <&>14:00</&> further <latch>

  <WSC#DPC310:1465:WK>
      no we're going to go to er wanganui today

  <WSC#DPC310:1470:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1475:WK>
      and look at a junk shop

  <WSC#DPC310:1480:HC>
      yeah

  <WSC#DPC310:1485:WK>
      then maybe go up the wanganui river or or the road that goes
      straight up to south of taupo

  <WSC#DPC310:1490:HC>
      oh yes <&>14:12</&>
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