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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:47</&>
  

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      now our guest speaker today is er hattie ainsley and she was
      born in feilding but her parents came about <.>eight</.> <latch>

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      no <{><[><.>eighteen</.> nineteen hundred</[>

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      <[>nineteen hundred</[></{>

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      yes so um <,> without much more ado we'll let you <&>1:00</&>
      start

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      oh <laughs>that's very naive of <unclear>word</unclear></laughs>

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      this is quite a thing for me

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      i'm never <laughs><.>s</.> spoken</laughs> out like this <&>group
      members comment</&>

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      but <{><[>i thought you just might <.>be</.> <,> <.>ni</.> might
      be interested</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0045:HA>
      my parents came from auckland in nineteen hundred

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      my father got out of work in AUCKLAND <,>

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      he was in <.>a</.> <.>a</.> <.>wa</.> he was a warehouseman

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      in <.>the</.> the nineteen hundred SLUMP he lost his job

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      he was a married man with three children

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      anyway he <.>t</.> decided he thought he'd like to go over to
      SYDNEY to see if there was anything <.>o</.> work over there and
      <.>i</.> <.>i</.> i think they were running special <,> economy
      trips for five pound return so he went to sydney for five pound
      return

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      i don't know how long he stayed there not very LONG i don't
      think so he came <&>2:00</&> back when there was no work there
      <,> so then

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      actually i'm not quite sure how he got in touch with mister
      cobbe

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      it was probably mister cobbe had been up <.>at</.> doing
      business at the warehouse

  <WSC#DPH009:0090:HA>
      anyway mister cobbe heard of him and offered him a job at the
      <.>e</.> as buyer in the manchester department in cobbe's in
      nineteen hundred <,,> and would you like to know how much his
      wages were

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      <[><unclear>word</unclear> a few people in front <unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

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      yes yes

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      two pound ten

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      a week?

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      a week <{><[><,> two pound</[>

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      we got a NEW we got a new er house <.>that</.> in beattie street
      it <.>was</.> new house built for letting and that was ten
      shillings a week and that was supposed to be the correct payment

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      a fifth of your wages you paid in rent <,> and he had three
      children <,,> and <&>3:00</&> two more to follow my <.>b</.>
      brother and myself so eventually he had five children and i
      don't <laughs>i don't think he got a lot more pay even <.>to</.>
      till the end not REALLY</laughs> a little bit but er i think
      that's rather a <.>dr</.>

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      oh and then oh on the way down of course i suppose you would
      realise there was no main trunk

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      they had to come by boat <,> to new plymouth

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      from onehunga to new plymouth by boat and then by train to
      feilding and all the furniture was packed in wooden cases great
      big you know <.>all</.> <.>all</.> they brought all their
      furniture an organ and all <.>the</.> sideboard no a <?>chiffonnier</?>
      i think but <.>a</.> small ones were <?>chiffonnier</?> in big
      <,> was called sideboards yes now and they there were a lot of
      big sideboards eventually in the big rooms weren't there people
      <.>a</.> we got a <.>big</.> a SIDEBOARD when we shifted into
      our bigger house but er

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      <[>two pound</[></{>

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      <.>did</.> did you still rent or did you buy <&>4:00</&>

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      <.>n</.> no we built the house <latch>

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      you built a house <latch>

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      in welsley street er <{><[><.>aft</.></[>

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      <[>on</[></{> two pound ten a week

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      yes of saving er <&>group laughs a little and comment</&>

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      yes oh well <.>i</.> no well i think that mother's father left
      <.>her</.> er left her something so that <,> was a good deposit
      on but they paid off the <.>h</.> they had to pay off the house

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      the house would only have been about five hundred pound in um

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      oh no i think ours was about SEVEN hundred

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      mm but it <{><[><?>wasn't like in the thousands</?></[>

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      <[>yes it was a seven roomed house</[></{> the big house <.>where</.>
      <.>be</.> of course they needed it for five children

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      yes

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      and a big grounds

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      it's up <.>i</.> it's up in welsley street where the <,> <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>is it still</[></{> there

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      oh yes

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      this is where er mister whatsaname lived in <.>the</.> my old
      home

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      mister <,> whatsaname

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      <laughs>well the secretary or treasurer</laughs> or the head of
      <.>the</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:0245:XX>
      patrick <,> <{><[>hanson</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0250:HA>
      <[>patrick patrick</[></{> <.>s</.> hanson

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      oh

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      yes that's <.>where</.> that's where we lived

  <WSC#DPH009:0265:HA>
      now <&>5:00</&> going back to cobbe's <{1><[1><laughs>oh sorry</laughs></[1>
      and of course the cobbes lived just up the road there <,>

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      that's it their entrance was from west street and along the
      front opposite us was all their property of it was just a
      paddock and trees along <.>the</.> along the edge er of er <,>
      <.>a</.> had it fenced off so the trees were separate and of
      course <.>they</.> they had great things <.>up</.> they had
      animals and <,> had a donkey and they had <{2><[2><?>pets</?></[2>

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      <[1>sorry <?>dear</?></[1></{1>

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      <[2>er <.>i</.> was</[2></{2> <?>trying <.>to</.> i had to</?>
      ring miss mcmahon <{><[>today</[>

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      she remembers the donkey <latch>

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      <[>oh <,> yes</[></{>

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      yes <latch>

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      but she couldn't come

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      she had nellie's family

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      yes er

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      the donkey

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      <O>voc</O> the donkey the donkey used <.>to</.> <sings>heehaw
      heehaw</sings> wake us up in the morning <.>th</.> the <unclear>word</unclear>
      across <O>laughs</O> <laughs>and i'll tell you another little
      side line about the donkey</laughs> because in those days there
      were no motor cars as early as that there was only horses and
      gigs and one of mother's friends <&>6:00</&> came to visit her
      the mother and <.>daughter</.>

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      the daughter drove the gig and the mother came with her and they
      tethered <.>g</.> <.>again</.> a fence <.>acro</.> <.>the</.> on
      the fence across the road from our place

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      there was no other houses further on and the nice green grass on
      the side of the road

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      any rate the donkey <laughs>apparently came</laughs> along
      amongst the trees and went <sings>heehaw heehaw</sings> although
      lady had taken <.>a</.> <.>the</.> fortunately <.>the</.> er
      done er <latch>

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      the gig <latch>

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      er the was <.>sor</.> <O>voc</O> so there was only the horse

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      the horse got such a fright broke <.>the</.> everything and
      disappeared down the street <O>laughter</O>

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      <O>laughs</O> <laughs>i don't know <.>who</.></laughs> who er
      went and looked er FOUND it but i think they found it eventually
      and brought it back and they tethered it up <.>an</.> er put it
      all together and mum and daughter went home to duke street

  <WSC#DPH009:0360:HA>
      oh i'll tell you by the way it'll <.>be</.> it was missus gordon
      and MISS gordon

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      do you remember them <,> with the <unclear>word</unclear> <&>agreement
      from group</&>

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      <unclear>word</unclear> died recently recently didn't she
      <&>7:00</&>

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      oh fairly recently yes

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      i <.>went</.> <.>i</.> i went to <unclear>word</unclear> <?>hurst</?>

  <WSC#DPH009:0385:XX>
      i <.>w</.> went to get the vote <.>book</.> the VOTE <&>murmurs
      from group</&>

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      the special votes

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      she was marvellous

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      she was <?>well in</?> the nineties then

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      oh <{><[>yes</[>

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      <[>and</[></{> she used to tell <.>the</.> wanted to know my
      name so i said it was shelby and i lived in <unclear>word</unclear>
      yes but she said who were you before and i said <?>goodwin

  <WSC#DPH009:0415:XX>
      oh she said</?> i remember the day you were born and i had three
      boys and then you were born

  <WSC#DPH009:0420:XX>
      <?>that was</?> miss gordon was her mother <&>group say yes yes</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0425:HA>
      yes they lived for years in <,> duke street

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      mm yes

  <WSC#DPH009:0435:XX>
      <.>that</.> she was living there then when i went to get the <{><[>photographs
      mm</[>

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      <[>oh yes yes</[></{>

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      she had been to a few <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:0450:HA>
      but that was that

  <WSC#DPH009:0455:HA>
      now where do we go from there <.>w</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:0460:HA>
      oh i was going to back to cobbe's <O>laughs</O> <O>sniffs</O>
      cobbe's shop

  <WSC#DPH009:0465:HA>
      now you'll <.>be</.> oh well i hope <.>f</.> you can tell me
      when when <.>the</.> they opened cobbe's and darragh's together
      <&>7:50</&> <&>group discusses opening date and stories about
      the owner of darragh's</&> <&>11:23</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0470:HA>
      oh it's <.>d</.> i'll just go back to the shop for a little bit
      <O>voc</O> <.>a</.> and <.>t</.> <.>t</.> <.>i</.> <.>i</.> well
      don't know whether you all realise all the different DEPARTMENTS
      they had

  <WSC#DPH009:0475:HA>
      they had <.>a</.> a boot department ladies' and <{1><[1>men's
      shoes</[1> <&>group agress</&>

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      yes they did

  <WSC#DPH009:0485:HA>
      yes and <.>th</.> they had a tailoring department was
      dressmaking

  <WSC#DPH009:0490:HA>
      remember miss MEIKLE <{2><[2>those two and the</[2>

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      <[1>i do</[1></{1>

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      <[2><unclear>word</unclear></[2></{2> miss <{><[>meadows</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0505:HA>
      <[>meadows</[></{> yes and millenary a couple of girls up in the
      millenary and then <,,> then oh <.>in</.> in nineteen hundred of
      course they <.>s</.> started up <&>12:00</&> the mail order
      house that <.>i</.> they had a lot <.>of</.> did a lot of
      business <.>th</.> <,> through the mail

  <WSC#DPH009:0510:HA>
      people wrote <.>i</.> sent in orders and they would post them
      out

  <WSC#DPH009:0515:HA>
      they had <.>all</.> several in the mail order department

  <WSC#DPH009:0520:HA>
      there was well <.>over</.> between thirty and forty working
      there in those days <&>12:17</&> <&>group discuss the cash
      carrying system used in the department store</&> <&>12:28</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0525:HA>
      my father came

  <WSC#DPH009:0530:XX>
      <{><[><unclear>word</unclear> can you remember when that was
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0535:HA>
      <[>back when my father came home and <.>i</.> i was offered</[></{>
      just offered like that would you like a job

  <WSC#DPH009:0540:HA>
      oh i said <?>oh yes</?> what is it

  <WSC#DPH009:0545:HA>
      oh in the cash desk in cobbe's

  <WSC#DPH009:0550:HA>
      oh i suppose that's all right

  <WSC#DPH009:0555:XX>
      i think that was marvellous

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      yes <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:0565:HA>
      oh i was there for <,> one er a whole year er pulling <.>that</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:0570:XX>
      <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPH009:0575:HA>
      and then one of the girls in the office left and so i was
      promoted to the office <,>

  <WSC#DPH009:0580:HA>
      i was quite pleased to get out of that

  <WSC#DPH009:0585:HA>
      <laughs>i <&>13:00</&> wasn't over keen</laughs> on sitting <{><[>up
      in that little box</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0590:XX>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear> there's</[></{> still one of those
      things going somewhere but i can't remember what <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0595:HA>
      <[>oh</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0600:XX>
      somewhere in the south island i think it is

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      <{><[>yes</[>

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      <[>and</[></{> there was in hamilton

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      was there

  <WSC#DPH009:0620:HA>
      hamilton <{><[>but <.>no</.></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0625:XX>
      <[>but cobbe's</[></{> was one of THE shops <{><[>of</[> the
      manawatu <latch>

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      <[>oh</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0635:HA>
      oh <{><[>yes</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0640:XX>
      <[><O>voc</O></[></{> um <.>i</.> i thought you might <.>be</.>
      mention the fact that there was a shop walker

  <WSC#DPH009:0645:HA>
      oh yes mister <{><[>trimble jack trimble was <?><.>the</.></?>
      <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0650:XX>
      <[>that <,> mister trimble was the shop walker all dressed up</[></{>
      in a cobbe <?>coat</?>

  <WSC#DPH009:0655:HA>
      oh yes and oh he was lovely <{1><[1>and he'd come</[1> along and
      <{2><[2>er give <.>the</.> the</[2> old ladies a chair to sit by
      the <{3><[3>counter <.>and</.></[3>

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      <[1><unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

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      <[2>oh that was <unclear>word</unclear></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPH009:0670:XX>
      <[3>mm</[3>

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      <[3><unclear>word</unclear> chairs</[3></{3> <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:0680:XX>
      yes chairs to sit on and <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0685:XX>
      <[>i can remember him</[></{> getting a chair right when
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:0690:XX>
      yes <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0695:HA>
      <[>it's a pity there's not a <laughs><.>f</.> few</[></{> more
      chairs in shops now days</laughs> <O>laughs</O> <&>13:40</&> <&>group
      discuss the shop walker and his family</&> <&>15:18</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0700:HA>
      oh it's great when you think back on all the folk <{><[><O>laughs</O></[>
      all the different families

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      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0710:XX>
      do you know er what's happened to any of the staff out the back

  <WSC#DPH009:0715:HA>
      oh no

  <WSC#DPH009:0720:XX>
      most of them have <?>passed</?>

  <WSC#DPH009:0725:HA>
      oh most of them have passed on <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:0730:XX>
      they would have by now <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:0735:HA>
      yes

  <WSC#DPH009:0740:XX>
      yes <{><[>they would have</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0745:XX>
      <[>the descendants still about</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0750:HA>
      oh mister sanders er he was the manager for quite a long time
      later on

  <WSC#DPH009:0755:XX>
      mm they went up north didn't they

  <WSC#DPH009:0760:HA>
      they both both mister and missus sanders passed on many years
      ago

  <WSC#DPH009:0765:HA>
      they were up in <{><[>tauranga</[> weren't they

  <WSC#DPH009:0770:XX>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0775:XX>
      and missus sherman

  <WSC#DPH009:0780:HA>
      oh and the <.>sher</.> cos then mister <.>sher</.> after the
      mail order department opened <drawls>they</drawls> had <.>a</.>
      a <.>t</.> country traveller

  <WSC#DPH009:0785:HA>
      mister sherman was the country traveller for years

  <WSC#DPH009:0790:HA>
      he used to go you know all around <.>the</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:0795:XX>
      and was that some relation to the sherman that was the m p
      <&>16:00</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0800:HA>
      yes yes his father

  <WSC#DPH009:0805:XX>
      his father

  <WSC#DPH009:0810:HA>
      yes yes

  <WSC#DPH009:0815:XX>
      mm yes

  <WSC#DPH009:0820:HA>
      well the shermans lived around <.>in</.> <drawls>in</drawls>
      glasgow terrace

  <WSC#DPH009:0825:HA>
      i went to school with them knew all the shermans went to school
      with ailsa and dora <{><[>and nigel</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0830:XX>
      <[>and which</[></{> school did you go to

  <WSC#DPH009:0835:HA>
      manchester street

  <WSC#DPH009:0840:XX>
      and then did you go here <{><[>to</[> tech

  <WSC#DPH009:0845:HA>
      <[><.>na</.></[></{> oh i went to the tech and then my mother
      wasn't well

  <WSC#DPH009:0850:HA>
      i left before the <.>ag</.> half way through the year before the
      ag <latch>

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      mm <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:0860:HA>
      opened <{><[>so i didn't <.>a</.> <.>did</.> i came here</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0865:XX>
      <[>and <.>you</.> you did your schooling more</[></{> or less
      here

  <WSC#DPH009:0870:HA>
      came here we all came here

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      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:0880:HA>
      you see my eldest brother was seven when he came from auckland
      and he had a <.>v</.> vivid memory right through his life really
      but he remembered all about auckland and school he went to in
      auckland and then he went right through manchester street and
      here and then he got in the er

  <WSC#DPH009:0885:XX>
      well how big was manchester street that <{><[><?>school</?></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0890:HA>
      <[>oh</[></{> manchester street was the <.>biggest</.> a
      <&>17:00</&> big school then

  <WSC#DPH009:0895:HA>
      <.>it</.> it has gone DOWN <{><[><.>l</.> lytton street</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0900:XX>
      <[>about five</[></{> or six hundred <,> children i think in the
      days when <{><[>you were there</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0905:HA>
      <[>oh yes</[></{> yes it was <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:0910:XX>
      at lytton street where i went it was about three hundred

  <WSC#DPH009:0915:HA>
      yes mm

  <WSC#DPH009:0920:XX>
      and <.>what</.> what would this <,> how many would have come to
      the tech

  <WSC#DPH009:0925:HA>
      oh a lot <.>of</.> lots came to the <.>t</.> all the <drawls>country
      er</drawls> <{><[>you know</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0930:XX>
      <[>there only seemed</[></{> to be a <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:0935:XX>
      <[>it must have been</[></{> bigger than this building is now

  <WSC#DPH009:0940:HA>
      oh it <.>h</.> had the top storey

  <WSC#DPH009:0945:XX>
      oh

  <WSC#DPH009:0950:HA>
      oh it had four rooms upstairs <{><[>you see</[> look at the
      picture

  <WSC#DPH009:0955:XX>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:0960:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:0965:HA>
      in <.>the</.> at the earthquake <,>

  <WSC#DPH009:0970:HA>
      it damaged it and that's why they took the top storey off

  <WSC#DPH009:0975:HA>
      it was unsafe

  <WSC#DPH009:0980:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:0985:HA>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:0990:HA>
      oh no all the country schools <drawls><softly>and</softly></drawls>
      local schools came here for um woodwork and COOKING <softly>yes
      you know</softly> <&>17:46</&> <&>group discuss carvings that
      are found in various local houses and then discuss old houses
      that have been moved and the families that lived in them</&>
      <&>26:06</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:0995:HA>
      yes well of course feilding was <.>a</.> a SQUARE when it <.>w</.>
      was <,>

  <WSC#DPH009:1000:HA>
      north south east and west <.>s</.> confined feilding and all <.>the</.>
      on the other side of the streets were in counties and when we
      went up into welsley street we were in the oroua county

  <WSC#DPH009:1005:HA>
      we were there for a number of years before we were taken into
      the borough and the same er north street i'm sure and east
      street was farms farm land the other side of east street and <.>south</.>
      well south street's still <.>not</.> well i don't know it is in
      the borough yet but where the race course is that was always in
      a county

  <WSC#DPH009:1010:HA>
      it wasn't in the borough in the early days <{><[>yet it was so
      near to the centre</[> of the town

  <WSC#DPH009:1015:XX>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear></[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1020:XX>
      and you'd know why <.>y</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1025:XX>
      <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:1030:XX>
      you'd all know why er why feilding is built like this because
      after manchester <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1035:XX>
      the biddles <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1040:XX>
      <{><[>yes</[> <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1045:XX>
      <[>mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1050:XX>
      that's why you can actually take a short cut in <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1055:XX>
      <[>oh that's</[></{> terrible <{><[><unclear>word</unclear>
      really</[> <&>27:00</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:1060:HA>
      <[>a square within</[></{> the square and <{1><[1>then along
      <{2><[2><unclear>word</unclear></[1></[2>

  <WSC#DPH009:1065:XX>
      <[1>yes <unclear>word</unclear></[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPH009:1070:XX>
      <[2>a square and then</[2></{2> it's in a square <O>laughs</O>

  <WSC#DPH009:1075:HA>
      yes in the early days the sections were BIG <.>y</.> you know er

  <WSC#DPH009:1080:HA>
      nearly everybody <,> had at least an acre or sometimes two acres
      a side section or a back section and then quite a lot of folk
      did have their own

  <WSC#DPH009:1085:XX>
      they all had their cow and <.>th</.> their chooks didn't they

  <WSC#DPH009:1090:HA>
      yes the <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:1095:HA>
      now that's what i want to ask you

  <WSC#DPH009:1100:HA>
      <laughs>can you remember</laughs> <.>th</.> the um a and p show
      which used to be in <,> january wasn't <{1><[1>it</[1> but
      remember the early days when <.>the</.> can <.>you</.> anybody
      remember when <.>just</.> soon after CARS came in they used to
      <.>go</.> go to the SHOW and line up with small children and get
      a ride round in a big car around the circle <.>if</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1105:HA>
      i think it was a <{2><[2>penny</[2> a penny a ride it was a <{3><[3><.>real</.></[3>

  <WSC#DPH009:1110:XX>
      <[1>yes</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPH009:1115:XX>
      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

  <WSC#DPH009:1120:XX>
      <[3>a penny</[3></{3> a ride

  <WSC#DPH009:1125:HA>
      there were about six or eight children a times

  <WSC#DPH009:1130:XX>
      i don't remember that <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[> might be
      <&>28:00</&> rusty <O>laughs</O> <&>group laughs</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:1135:HA>
      <[>yes i do</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1140:HA>
      of course there was a merry go round <.>and</.> oh it was LOVELY
      for the children <{><[>when you're <?>at school</?></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1145:XX>
      <[>but <.>y</.> <.>you</.> you saw on</[></{> these magic moment
      things the picture of the feilding race course and the old kiosk
      <&>group mm yes etc</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:1150:HA>
      oh i remember that kiosk

  <WSC#DPH009:1155:XX>
      yes

  <WSC#DPH009:1160:XX>
      and then when they showed it on <.>the</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1165:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1170:XX>
      <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1175:HA>
      <[>there was a boat</[></{> meant to go <.>o</.> <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1180:XX>
      yes <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1185:HA>
      go over the water i would say <laughs>to get <&>pronounced as
      gep</&> onto the kiosk <&>pronounced as tiosk</&></laughs> and
      have a cup of tea <{><[>with my mother <O>voc</O></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1190:XX>
      <[>what would have happened to that kiosk</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1195:XX>
      i suppose they <,> threw it away <,> throw it away <&>28:29</&>
      <&>group discuss blacksmiths in feilding and palmerston north</&>
      <&>30:43</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:1200:HA>
      no <.>the</.> the SQUARE the actual square <&>group say yes yes</&>

  <WSC#DPH009:1205:HA>
      oh yes we're in palmerston <.>th</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1210:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1215:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1220:HA>
      and i <.>was</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1225:XX>
      you'd think there'd be the way they did the er ornamental <.>squares</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1230:XX>
      well i think <{><[>they're <.>both</.></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1235:XX>
      <[>they're <.>both</.></[></{> feilding would the <unclear>word</unclear>

  <WSC#DPH009:1240:HA>
      <unclear>word</unclear> i suppose keep the horses

  <WSC#DPH009:1245:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1250:HA>
      i mean people could tether <.>hor</.> you know if <&>31:00</&>
      <.>they</.> couldn't they <O>tut</O> <unclear>word</unclear>
      come to think of it

  <WSC#DPH009:1255:HA>
      it was grass there and they were short of grass

  <WSC#DPH009:1260:HA>
      <.>they</.> <O>laughs</O> they wouldn't be past <{><[><.>giving</.></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1265:XX>
      <[>they were</[></{> gardens too weren't they

  <WSC#DPH009:1270:HA>
      well there <.>weren't</.> there weren't much gardens in the
      early days

  <WSC#DPH009:1275:HA>
      i can't remember <.>the</.> much about the GARDENS in the square

  <WSC#DPH009:1280:HA>
      i can see those fences <.>all</.> you know

  <WSC#DPH009:1285:XX>
      i can't remember the fences but knowing <.>that</.> from this
      other hattie <.>in</.> there in palmerston i thought well then
      they maybe were here

  <WSC#DPH009:1290:HA>
      yes

  <WSC#DPH009:1295:XX>
      there were picket fences around the squares

  <WSC#DPH009:1300:XX>
      here <,> in feilding?

  <WSC#DPH009:1305:XX>
      oh <.>y</.> yes

  <WSC#DPH009:1310:XX>
      mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1315:XX>
      how high

  <WSC#DPH009:1320:XX>
      oh about this high

  <WSC#DPH009:1325:XX>
      i <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1330:XX>
      <[>yes mm</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1335:XX>
      i can see it in the morning there were a couple of <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1340:XX>
      <[>band rotunda</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1345:XX>
      yes

  <WSC#DPH009:1350:HA>
      oh yes

  <WSC#DPH009:1355:XX>
      well yes that was <.>a</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1360:XX>
      <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1365:XX>
      <[><?>well what building</?> was</[></{> between the a n z and
      <.>the</.> and <.>that</.> manchester <.>s</.> i muddle those
      two <.>b</.> <&>32:00</&> feilding hotel

  <WSC#DPH009:1370:XX>
      so hattie would know

  <WSC#DPH009:1375:HA>
      <unclear>word</unclear> <.>what</.>

  <WSC#DPH009:1380:XX>
      <.>what</.> what buildings were there or what was there no
      building between the a n z bank <{><[><?>i only</?></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1385:HA>
      <[><unclear>word</unclear> oh i <.>i</.></[></{> no there was
      nothing between the two banks

  <WSC#DPH009:1390:HA>
      you mean the a n z and the wales

  <WSC#DPH009:1395:XX>
      no i didn't <.>but</.> don't know well <.>i</.> well i asked
      that there was nothing there <{><[>it was just a <unclear>word</unclear></[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1400:HA>
      <[>no there's never been</[></{> anything there <{><[><,> no</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1405:XX>
      <[>no <,></[></{> no i meant <.>the</.> in the square <{><[>between</[>
      the bank and the hotel

  <WSC#DPH009:1410:XX>
      <[>over</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1415:XX>
      over the other side of cobbe's

  <WSC#DPH009:1420:HA>
      oh <{><[>oh</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1425:XX>
      <[>it was</[></{> <?>hastie's</?>

  <WSC#DPH009:1430:HA>
      no no <{1><[1>there was <,,></[1>

  <WSC#DPH009:1435:HA>
      manchester that's the manchester <,,> no <{2><[2><.>or</.></[2>

  <WSC#DPH009:1440:XX>
      <[1>that was the old bank</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPH009:1445:XX>
      <[2>no</[2>

  <WSC#DPH009:1450:XX>
      <[2>no</[2></{2> <.>the</.> the feilding hotel going past where
      <.>taylor</.> er taylor's <{1><[1><.>the</.> and</[1> seddon's
      used to be <{2><[2><?>along</?> there</[2>

  <WSC#DPH009:1455:HA>
      <[1>oh yes</[1></{1>

  <WSC#DPH009:1460:XX>
      <[2><?>was it</?> a big bank</[2></{2> then

  <WSC#DPH009:1465:HA>
      there was no bank there though

  <WSC#DPH009:1470:XX>
      the a n <drawls>z</drawls> <.>w</.> <latch>

  <WSC#DPH009:1475:HA>
      that was on the corner <{><[>yes</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1480:XX>
      <[>yes</[></{>

  <WSC#DPH009:1485:XX>
      where the a n z one was the bank of <{><[>australasia</[>

  <WSC#DPH009:1490:HA>
      <[>asia</[></{> yes and it had two storeys and <&>33:00</&> the
      manager lived upstairs

  <WSC#DPH009:1495:XX>
      oh yes mm

  <WSC#DPH009:1500:XX>
      the manager lived behind the er wales one

  <WSC#DPH009:1505:HA>
      yeah oh yes it was <.>the</.> yes <&>end of tape</&>
      <&>33:08</&>
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