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  <&>Wellington Corpus of Spoken New Zealand English Version One</&>
  <&>Copyright 1998 School of Linguistics & Applied Language Studies</&>
  <&>Victoria University of Wellington</&>

  <&>side one</&>
  <&>0:44</&>
  

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      well my parents were married fairly young in life and my father
      had come out from ireland at the age of about three with his
      parents and <&>1:00</&> they settled in ashburton and they
      farmed there

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      yes

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      i don't remember my grandparents

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      they had died before i was born but in dad's family he had two
      brothers and two sisters

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      and they lived with their parents in ashburton on this farm and
      then when the grandparents died the land was sold subdivided and
      there were houses built on all that land there now and my father
      with his two brothers started up a grocery business

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      and that was in the family as kerr brothers for many many years

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      was in the horse and cart days they had that grocer shop <latch>

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      oh right <,,>

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      um <.>di</.> did you move at any stage <&>2:00</&>

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      no we <,,> my parents had built a large home <,> in princess
      street in ashburton <{><[>on</[> the land that had once been
      theirs farm land and <,> the two brothers also built houses
      along the same street

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      <[>oh right</[></{>

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      mhm

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      and so we grew up there <,> and <,> many years later we actually
      sold that house and built on another piece of land we owned on
      the opposite side of the road

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      oh right

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      and that was a more modern place and and my mother lived there
      till her death

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      oh right

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      um <O>coughs</O> how how old were your parents when you were
      born <?>do you know</?>

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      no but they must have been getting on in years seeing i was the
      youngest of twelve

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      <{><[>my</[> father died <,> at the age of <,> sixty two i think
      he was when he died and i was just at primary school

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      <[>mm</[></{> <&>3:00</&>

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      mhm

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      and my mother <,> died oh so many years ago now when i was just
      twenty five <?>then</?>

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      oh right

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      <O>tut</O> so she actually had to manage on her own for a number
      of years <,,><&>4</&> very traumatic time because they were very
      close

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      oh right <,,> and um <.>h</.> what was your growing up like

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      fun

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      mm

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      we were a big family so we we did lots of things together <,,>
      and we were we were lucky i suppose because er we were a <?>caring</?>
      family didn't have money worries <&>4:00</&>

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      mm <O>laughs</O>

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      and we had lots of people to our house visitors <,> and there's
      the the others <O>voc</O>

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      i was lucky i suppose because lot of the others had left home
      when i was growing up so that <,> they probably had to do more
      work at home than i ever had to <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      they helped look after me <,> and <.>the</.> a lot of them had
      left home to to work in various places when i was growing up so
      life was very easy for me really

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      oh right and um <,> did you have any set chores that you had to
      do any routines

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      yes we all had our own jobs to do

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      mine i hated

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      it was a saturday morning job of cleaning all the brass <latch>

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      <O>laughs</O> <latch>

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      brass knobs we had in the house and <?>a</?> brass number plate
      <?>we always</?> had to shine

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      we <unclear>word</unclear> cleaned on a <&>5:00</&> saturday and
      that was my job

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      everybody else took turns but we <.>we</.> we were lucky

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      mum had a lady that came in to do the washing and she also had a
      lady that came to clean the house

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      oh right <latch>

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      and then somebody else we used to run along the road to <,> to a
      lady that took in ironing

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      she used to do the ironing <{><[>for us</[>

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      <[>oh</[></{> right

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      so those chores were shared out <latch>

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      mm

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      it wasn't too bad <,> and i remember <.>we</.> when we first got
      a washing machine one of the first to have a washing machine
      great big washing machines then wringer

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      <{1><[1>they used to have</[1> wringers on the top and and
      everybody was quite happy to do the washing then auntie dora put
      her arm her hand <{2><[2><?>through the wringer</?> <unclear>word</unclear></[2>
      yes

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      <[1>oh yes yes</[1></{1>

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      <[2><O>laughs</O></[2></{2>

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      did it get broken

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      yes it certainly did

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      did she get taken down the hospital <latch> <&>6:00</&>

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      <laughs>yes she</laughs> certainly did <latch>

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      <drawls>ah</drawls> <O>laughs</O> did she stay overnight
      <unclear>word</unclear>

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      um i don't really remember i just remember the yelling

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      for mum to come quickly and <{><[><unclear>word</unclear></[>

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      <[>was</[></{> it an automatic wringer

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      yes well it was an a washing machine <{1><[1>and the</[1> where
      you'd had a special knob that you turned for the <{2><[2>wringer
      to work</[2> see once it <{3><[3>was turned on</[3> and nobody
      quite knew how the thing worked and all mum did was rush in and
      pull out the plug and it sort of stopped everything but with her
      hand in the wringer <latch>

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      <[1>oh right</[1></{1>

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      <[2>oh right</[2></{2>

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      <[3><O>laughs</O></[3></{3>

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      oh

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      it's a wonder she hasn't told you that tale <latch>

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      mm and she's still got the scar on her hand <latch>

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      no no it was very swollen for a long time as far as i remember
      and she did break some <.>bo</.> bones <{><[>but</[> <?>obviously</?>
      she hasn't had any deformity which was lucky <latch>

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      <[>ah</[></{>

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      oh right <,,>

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      um and did you have any other appliances like an oven or or
      things like that <latch>

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      oh malcolm <&>7:00</&> <{1><[1>yes yes</[1> wasn't that yes we
      actually had a gas stove <{2><[2>and</[2> then i remember later
      getting an electric stove

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      the gas stove was one with <?>a destructor</?> at the side and
      it heated up the water and it had the <{3><[3>always</[3> kept
      the kitchen lovely and warm

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      <[1><O>laughs</O></[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      <[3>oh</[3></{3>

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      oh right

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      you still see those destructors and things around in some of the
      flats probably

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      oh right <latch>

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      those stoves in flats in dunedin yeah <,> um <,>

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      we had a it was a big house <,> a large kitchen <,> and a large
      dining area and lounge so <,> it wasn't too big a hassle with
      everybody around

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      mm

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      we ALways had enough room for other people to come and stay
      <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and as everyone got older we all took our friends home
      unexpectedly but <,> that didn't really seem to be a problem to
      mum

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      there was always just enough food <{><[><?>for everyone</?></[>
      <&>8:00</&>

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      <[>oh right did</[></{> did you um <,> grow any vegetables or
      <{><[>preserve</[>

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      <[>yes</[></{> quite selfsufficient

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      we had hens <latch>

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      oh <latch>

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      a number of our <{><[>family</[> loved

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      jolly hens that used to get out into the garden and wreck it
      sometimes <latch>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      and we had we always grew our own vegetables potatoes and and
      the greens and <?>had</?> lots of fruit trees gooseberry bushes
      raspberry bushes <latch>

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      oh

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      so i suppose yes we were <.>s</.> fairly selfsufficient

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      never had to go out and <unclear>word</unclear> was it

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      oh well that was always a mum and dad quite enjoyed doing that
      <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      my growing up yes with dad he had had a <.>v</.> heart condition
      for a few years and so he <O>voc</O> took semi retirement and he
      only went down to the shop when it suited him <latch>

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      mm

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      so i <O>voc</O> had him i spent a lot of time with him and we
      <{><[>used</[> to often go out in the mornings especially school
      holiday time

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      how <{><[>how</[>

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      <[>he only</[></{> had one arm so <{1><[1>he</[1> used to do the
      digging and and we used to pick up the <&>9:00</&> potatoes <{2><[2>and
      things for him</[2> <,> er but he and mum did everything
      together <,> and but seeing i was the youngest and there i got
      to share those things which were good

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      <[1>oh right</[1></{1>

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      <[2>oh right</[2></{2>

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      oh right and how did he do his arm

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      working <,> for a time at a bricklayer's place and i'm not quite
      sure how it happened but it WAS an accident

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      <{><[>he'd</[> gone there to help friends out i think they were
      actually a distant relation of ours <latch>

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      <[>right</[></{>

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      mm

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      and he met with an accident there and he lost his arm but it
      didn't stop him from serving in a shop wrapping up parcels <{><[>driving</[>
      the car <,> he did everything

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      <?>mm yes</?> um

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      one of the things he couldn't do was tie his tie <latch>

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      no <unclear>word</unclear> <latch>

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      or <,> sharpen the razor to have a shave

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      um i remember dora always stood with him while he had his shave
      so she could sharpen the <{><[>razor</[> and always saw to his
      tie <&>10:00</&>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      oh right <latch>

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      and um

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      and um was your father out working all the time

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      did you see a lot of him or

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      well he he WAS at the shop but as as i say when i was growing up
      he <,> took things much more easily and didn't go off to work as
      often <{1><[1>because</[1> he had had this heart condition <,>
      but he was very busy with local body things

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      he was on the council <{2><[2>for many</[2> years and he did
      lots of voluntary work <,> so he he led a fairly busy life apart
      from the shop

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>for years</[2></{2>

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      mhm

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      but no he was home quite a lot as well

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      and <.>w</.> what did your mother do

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      did she was <.>sh</.> did she have any parttime work or

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      no it wasn't heard of in those days for <&>11:00</&> women to
      have parttime work <,> except well we did have people that came
      to clean came to do the washing <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      but they were actually workers <,>

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      there were lots of people who did jobs like that um <,>

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      mum did a lot of voluntary work especially with the church <,,>
      helped er with fund raising things and she always went to the
      things with dad <,,>

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      they did they actually did everything together

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      mm

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      so she wasn't really a slave to the house but that was her job
      and she loved it <latch>

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      mm <latch>

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      and it was no problem

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      she seemed to <.>alwa</.> we always had knitted jerseys she
      sewed

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      i don't know she found time for all those things when i think
      about it now but she she did do it without any effort

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      did she make all your clothes

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      well i can remember going to a dressmaker <&>12:00</&> having a
      few dresses special clothes made <{1><[1>they were</[1> mine but
      knitting things were knitted but again a lot all the family were
      taught how to knit <{2><[2>and</[2> sew so i think everyone sort
      of took a share and that as they grew up

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      <[1>mm</[1></{1>

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      <[2>mm</[2></{2>

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      oh right <,,><&>3</&> and er who who cooked the meals and things
      like <{><[>that</[>

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      <[>well</[></{> it was nearly always mum

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      right

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      but that was accepted but i also remember that my sisters
      everyone took a share in doing the dishes after tea <{><[>at
      night</[> not during the day because everyone was out working
      <latch>

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      mm

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      but at night um and certainly it was all geared round looking
      after dad

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      mm <latch>

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      as soon as he was coming in at night he had his own chair

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      and right here's dad and so out of that chair

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      whoever was in it <{><[>they had</[> to go so he had the best
      seat in front of the fire with the paper and slippers <latch>

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      <[><O>laughs</O></[></{>

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      and when i think about it now he was really <&>13:00</&>
      pampered

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      right

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      but nobody seemed to mind that

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      that was the way mum was but he looked after her equally

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      mm

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      but her role was as a housewife i suppose you could say

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      mm <,> and and how did you have your meals

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      did you have them in the lounge or around a table

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      oh a big big table

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      it had two leafs that went in it leafs that went in the table
      and we could all sit round the table

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      and did you all did who helped set it

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      er <.>w</.> anybody that was there set the table

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      mm

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      we did share things

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      mm

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      um never had a meal without saying grace

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      mm

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      never had a meal till everybody was sitting at the table

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      mm

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      er <,> and then <,> it was sort of free for all i suppose and
      everybody just got up and went and did their own things if they
      had anything on <,> <&>14:00</&> but we always had to be seated
      and always had to have grace <,> and then you could eat as eat
      what you wanted or as little as you liked

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      you were free to do your own thing so long as dad always said
      there was somebody to help to do the dishes after tea

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      oh right and were they big meals

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      yes they were big meals

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      well we had <,> ALways the meat and vegetables <,> potatoes that
      sort of thing and always pudding to follow <?>i can still
      remember</?> always a large bowl of soup vegetable soup as a
      rule to start in the winter time especially <?>when</?> you got
      home from from school <O>voc</O>

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      always remember that loved it and a huge fire <?>um</?> so it
      was always homely <{><[>always</[> warm and cosy

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      <[>mm</[></{>

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      and um <,> just a little bit about your schooling

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      how did you find the school

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      hated it

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      <O>laughs</O>

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      i suppose also we weren't geared to education <,> <&>15:00</&>

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      in a little town like ashburton there was the primary school
      there's secondary school but you didn't hear as many people
      going away to university and i suppose my parents especially my
      father was a a selfmade man

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      mm

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      he did well in business <&>15:24</&>
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