THE SPEAKERS . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.3) SAMUELL . DANIELL . THE WIFE OF SAMUELL . M. B. SCHOOLEMAISTER . THE GOOD WIFE R. (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.4) Sam. You are well mette olde acquaintance , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.6) I am glad to see you looke so well , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.7) howe doe all our good friendes in your Countrey . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.8) Dan. I trust they be all in good health , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.9) they were when I came from home , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.10) I am sorry to see you looke so pale , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.11) what haue you beene sicke lately ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.12) Sam. Truely no , I thanke God I haue had my health pretily well , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.13) but yet me thinke my meate doth me no good of late . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.14) Dan. What is the matter man , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.15) doe you take thought and care for the world ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.16) take heede of that , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.17) for the Scripture saith , worldly sorrow worketh death . 2. Cor. 7. (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.18) It is a great sinne rising from vnbeleefe , and distrust in Gods prouidence , when men be ouer pensiue for the world . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.19) Sam. In deede my minde is troubled , but not for that which you say , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.20) for I hope in God I shall not want so long as I liue . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.21) Dan. Is it any trouble of conscience for sinne ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.22) If it be , that may turne to good . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.23) Sam. O , no , no . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.24) I know no cause why . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.25) Dan. Why , what is it then , if I $may $be {TEXT:maybe} so bold , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4R.26) I pray you tell me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.27) I thinke you take me for your friend . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.28) Sam. In deede I haue alwaies found you my very good friend , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.29) and I am sure you will giue me the best counseil you can , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.30) truely we dwell here in a bad countrey , I think euen one of the worst in England . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.31) Dan. Is it so ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.32) I thinke you dwell in a fine countrey , in a sweete wholesome aire and fruitfull grounds . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.33) Sam. Aire man ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.34) I finde no fault with the aire , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.35) there be naughty people . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.36) Dan. Naughty people ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.37) where shall a man dwell , and not finde them ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.38) Swearers , liars , raylers , liaunderers , drunckards , adulterers , riotous , vnthriftes , dicers , and proude high minded persons , are euery where to be founde in great plenty . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.39) Sam. Nay , I doe not meane them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.40) I care not for them . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.41) These witches , these euill fauoured old witches doe trouble me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.42) Dan. What doe you take your selfe to be bewitched ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.43) Sam. No , no , I trust no euill spirite can hurt me , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.44) but I heare of much harme done by them : (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.45) they lame men (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.46) and kill their cattle , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.47) yea they destroy both men and children . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.48) They say there is scarce any towne or village in all this shire , but there is one or two witches at the least in it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.49) In good sooth , I may tell it to you as to my friend , when I goe but into my closes , I am afraide , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.50) for I see nowe and then a Hare ; which my conscience giueth me is a witch , or some witches spirite , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.51) shee stareth so vppon me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.52) And sometime I see an ugly weasell runne through my yard , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.53) and there is a foule great catte sometimes in my Barne , which I haue no liking vnto . (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.54) Dan. You neuer had no hurt done yet , had you by any witch ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.55) Sam. Trust me I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.56) but I feare me I haue , (GIFFORD-E2-H,A4V.57) for there be two or three in our towne which I like not , but especially an old woman , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.59) I haue beene as careful to please her as euer I was to please mine own mother , and to giue her euer anon one thing or other , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.60) and yet me thinkes shee frownes at me now and then . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.61) And I had a hogge which eate his meate with his fellowes and was very well to our thinking ouer night , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.62) and in the morning he was starke dead . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.63) My wife hath had fiue or sixe hennes euen of late dead . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.64) Some of my neighbours wishe me to burne some thing aliue , as a henne or a hogge . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.65) Others will me in time to seeke helpe at the handes of some cunning man , before I haue any further harme . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.66) I wold be glad to do for the best . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.67) Dan. Haue you any cunning man hereabout , that doth helpe ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.68) Sam. There is one , they say , here a twenty miles of at T. B. which hath holpe many . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.69) And thus much I know , there was one of mine acquaintance but two miles hence , which had great losses , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.70) he lost two or three kine ; six hogs , he would not haue tooke fifteene shillings a hog for them , and a mare . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.71) He went to that same man , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.72) and told him hee suspected an old woman in the parish . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.73) And I think he told me , that he shewed him her in a Glasse , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.74) and tolde him shee had three or foure imps , some call them puckrels , one like a gray catte , an other like a weasell , an other like a mouse , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.75) a vengeance take them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.76) it is a great pitty the countrey is not ridde of them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.77) and told him also what he shoulde doe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.78) it is halfe a yeare agoe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.79) and he neuer had any hurt since . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.80) There is also a woman at R. H. fiue and twenty miles hence , that hath a great name , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.81) and great resort there is dayly vnto her . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.82) A neighbour of mine had his childe taken lame , a girle of ten yeares olde , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.83) and such a paine in her backe , that shee could not sit upright . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.84) He went to that woman , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.85) she tolde him he had some badde neighbour , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.86) the childe was forespoken , as he suspected ; (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1R.87) marry if he would goe home , and bring her som of the clothes which the child lay in all night , shee would tell him certainely . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.88) He went home , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.89) and put a table Napkin about her necke all night , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.90) and in the morning tooke it with him , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.91) and shee told him the girle was bewitched in deede , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.92) and so told him what hee should doe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.93) and he had remedy , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.94) the girle is as wel at this day , and a pretty quicke girle . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.95) There was another of my neighbours had his wife much troubled , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.96) and he went to her , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.97) and shee tolde him , his wife was haunted with a fairy . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.98) I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell what she bad him doe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.99) but the woman is mery at this howre . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.100) I haue heard , I dare not say it is so , that shee weareth about her Sainct Iohns Gospel , or some part of it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.101) Dan. If you haue such cunning men and women , what neede you be so much afraide ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.102) Sam. Alas man , I could teeme it to goe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.103) and some counsell me to goe to the man at T. B. and some to the woman at R. H. (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.104) And betweene them both I haue lingred the time , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.105) and feare I may be spoiled before I get remedy . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.106) Some wishe me to beate and claw the witch vntill I fetch bloud on her , and to threaten her that I will haue her hanged , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.107) if I knew which were the best I would doe it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.108) Dan. I perceiue your danger is betweene two stooles . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.109) Sam. It is very true , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.110) if I had heard but-1 of one , I should haue gone ere this time , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.111) and I am glad that I met with you . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.112) I pray you let me haue your best counsell ; (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.113) I trust you beare me good will . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.114) Dan. Truely I will giue you the best counsell I can , which I am sure shall doe you good , if you will followe it , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.115) for in deede I pitty your case , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.116) it is most certaine you are bewitched . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.117) Sam. Bewitched , doe you thinke I am bewitched ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.118) I feele no harme in my body , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.119) you make me more afraide . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B1V.120) Dan . Nay I doe not thinke that the olde woman hath bewitched you , or that your body is bewitched , but the diuell hath bewitched your minde , with blindnes and vnbeleefe , to draw you from God , euen to worship himselfe , by seeking help at the hands of deuils . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.121) It is a lamentable case to see how the deuill hath bewitched thousands at this day to run after him : and euen to offer sacrifice vnto him . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.122) Sam. I defie the deuill , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.123) worship him ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.124) fie vpon him , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.125) I hate him with all my hart . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.126) Do you thinke any seeke help at his hands ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.127) we seek help against him . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.128) I think he neuer doth good , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.129) he hurteth , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.130) but he neuer helpeth any . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.131) Dan. It is not in these matters to be taken as wee imagine , but as the word of God teacheth . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.132) What though a man think he worshippeth not deuils , nor seeketh not help at their handes , as he is persuaded , nor hath any such intent , is he euer the neere , when as yet it shall be found by Gods word , that he doth worship them , and seek vnto them for help ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.133) Sam. Doe you thinke then that there be no witches ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.134) Doth not God suffer wicked people to do harme ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.135) Or doe you thinke that the cunning men doe helpe by the deuill ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.136) I would be glad to reason with you , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.137) but I haue smal knowledge in the scripturs . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.138) We haue a Schoolemaister that is a good pretie scholler , they say , in the Latine tongue , one M. B. (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.139) he is gone to my house euen now , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.140) I pray you let me intreat you to go thither , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.141) you two may reason the matter , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.142) for you are learned . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.143) Dan. I could be content , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.144) but it will aske some time , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.145) and I am going to such a place vpon speciall busines . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.146) Sam. I pray you let mee intreat you : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.147) foure or five houres is not so much . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.148) Dan. Well , I will goe with you . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.149) Sam. Wife , I haue brought an olde friend of mine , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.150) I pray thee bid him welcome . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.151) The wife . He is verie welcome . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.152) But trulie man , I am angrie with you , and halfe out of patience , that you go not to seeke helpe against yonder same olde beast (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.153) I haue another hen dead this night . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.154) Other men can seeke remedy . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2R.155) Here is M. B. tels me , that the good wife R. all the laste weeke could not make her butter come . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.157) She neuer rested vntil she had got her husbande out to the woman at R. H. (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.158) and when he came home , they did but heat a spit red hotte , and thrust into the creame , vsing certaine wordes , as shee willed him , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.159) and it came as kindly as anie butter that euer she made . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.160) I met the old filth this morning (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.161) Lord , how sowerlie she looked vpon me , & mumbled as she went , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.162) I heard part of her wordes . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.163) Ah quod she you haue an honest man to your husband , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.164) I heare how he doth vse me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.165) In trueth , husband , my stomacke did so rise against her , that I coulde haue found in my heart to haue flowen vpon her , and scratched her , but that I feared she would be too strong for me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.166) It is a lustie olde queane . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.167) I wished that the good wife R. had bene with me . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.168) I pray you , good husbande , let me intreat you to goe to that same good woman , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.169) you may ride thither in halfe a day . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.170) Sam. Wife , I pray thee be content , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.171) I haue intreated this mine olde friend to reason with M. B. (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.172) for he tels mee that we be in a verie foule errour . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.173) M. B. I suppose , so farre as my learning and capacitie doe extend , that small reasoning may serue . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.174) The worde of God doeth shew plainlie that there be witches , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.175) & commaundeth they should be put to death . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.176) Experience hath taught too too manie , what harmes they doe . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.177) And if anie haue the gift to minister help against them , shall we refuse it ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.178) Shall we not drinke when we are a thirst ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.179) Shall wee not warme vs when wee are a colde ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.180) It is pitie that anie man should open his mouth anie way to defend them , their impietie is so great . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.181) Dan. For my part , I go not about to defend witches , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.182) I denie not but that the deuill worketh by them . And that they ought to be put to death . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.183) We ought also to seeke remedie against them : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B2V.184) but as I told my friend , the deuil doth bewitch men by meanes of these witches , and lead them from God , euen to follow himself , to offer sacrifice vnto him to worship him , to obey his wil , to commit manie grieuous sinnes , and to be drowned in manifold errours . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.185) M. B. If you haue this meaning , that witches and sorcerers ar bewitched by the deuil , that they forsake God , and follow him , that they worship and obey him , and doe sacrifice vnto him , and commit manie hainous sinnes , I agree with you , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.186) for I tak it , they euen vow themselues to the deuill , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.187) or els he would not be so readie to doe them seruice . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.188) But if you mean , that such as seek remedie against them , & wold haue them rooted out , be so seduced and mis-led by the deuill , as you speake , I say your speach is rash and foolish , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.189) for they that be earnest against witches , be earnest against the deuil , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.190) they defie the deuil , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.191) they seek to resist him , and to roote out his instruments . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.192) Now , if you were a man that had any learning , you should see , that contraries $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be in the same subiect , at one instant , in the same part , and in the same respect : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.193) how then can a man hate the deuill , defie the deuill and his workes , and yet follow him at one time ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.194) Dan. I know that witches and coniurers are seduced and become the vassals of Satan : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.195) they be his seruants , and not he theirs , as you speake . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.196) But I mean indeed that multitudes are seduced and led from God , to follow the deuil , by means of witches & coniurers : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.197) yea , I speak it of those , not-2 which are carfed of a godlie zeale , but of a blinde rage and mad furie against them . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.198) If I speake this rashlie and foolishlie , as you say , and your self learned as you boast , and I vnlearned , I shall be the more easilie ouerthrowne . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.199) But I speake so truly , and can so well iustifie all that I haue said by the word of God , that your learning and best skill , shall not be able to disprooue the same . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.200) Your logicke at the first doth faile you . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.201) Not that contraries can be in the same subiect at the same instant , in the same part , and in the same respect . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3R.202) But herein you are vtterly blinde and deceiued , that you name contraries , and take it that the first of them , as namelie , to hate the deuill , to defie him and his workes , are in them , when as indeed they are in them but in imagination . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.203) For if men say and think they defie the deuill and his workes , and through blindnes and infidelitie , are euen bewitched , and seduced to followe the deuill , and to do his will , doth their speach and blinde imagination make the things indeed to be in them ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.204) What if a poore begger woman say and thinke that she is a Queene : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.205) is she therfore no begger , begging still her bread ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.206) or is she rid of her lice ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.207) M. B. Nay , if you iudge , I haue done . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.208) If men be earnest against the deuill , and defie him and all his workes , are you to iudge of their conscience , and to say they defie him but in imagination , and follow him , and worship him in deede ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.209) is not God alone the iudge ouer mens hearts ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.210) Againe , do you compare those that are in their right mind , with such as be mad , or out of their wits ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.211) Dan. I knowe that God alone is the searcher of the heart , touching the thinges which lie hid in secrete : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.212) But where things are open and manifest , the tree is known by the fruits , so far as we may goe . As if a man professe the faith of Iesus Christ soundlie , in all pointes according to the word of God , and doth frame his life thereafter in doing good workes : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.213) it is verie wicked for anie man to iudge of him , that he is an hypocrite , and that he doth all of vaine glorie . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.214) And yet it may be that the Lord , who discerneth the secrete intents of the heart , seeth indeed that he is but an hypocrite . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.215) On the contrarie parte , where a man professeth in wordes that he doeth defie the deuill and all his workes , and yet when it commeth to the triall of Gods word , hee is found to be seduced , and wrapped in blinde errours of the deuill , in infidelitie , and euill works , in which he fulfilleth the will of Satan , and honoureth him in the place of God : Shal we say that this is a good man because of his words and imagination , that he defieth the deuill and his works ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B3V.216) Wo be to them that cal good euil , and euil good . Esa. 5 . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.218) We may say they are in bad case , except they repent , and turne from following Satan . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.219) But yet I say , that a faithful man may erre in some of these thinges through weaknesse of faith , and through ignorance . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.220) And therefore , here men may not be too rash in iudgment . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.221) And now wheras you find fault , that I make comparison between such as be mad and those that be in their right mind it is your ignora~ce , which do not consider that ther be two kinds of madnes , or being out of their right mind , the one for matters of this worlde , the other for thinges spirituall and heauenlie . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.222) There bee which are in their wittes for this worlde , which touching spirituall things are as farre awrie in their imaginations , as the poore beggar , which thinketh she is a goodlie queene . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.223) Doth not the holie Apostle say , that because men receiue not the loue of the truth , God wil send them strong delusion to beleeue lies . 2. Thess. 2 . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.224) And what is that , but that Satan shall seduce , illude and bewitch their minds , to make them beleeue that they worshippe and follow God , when they worship and follow him ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.225) M. B. {HELSINKI:comma_after_"B"} Doe you take that to be S. Paules meaning ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.226) Doth Satan bewitch mens mindes , and leade them into falsehoode and errour , making them beleeue they worshipp God , when they worship deuils ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.227) Dan. S. Paul speaketh there indeed of the comming of the great Antichrist in the power of the Deuill . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.228) Nowe , those which are seduced and worship Antichrist , think they worship God : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.229) but marke what S. Iohn sayth , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.230) All the world wondred , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.231) and followed the beast , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.232) and worshipped the dragon which gaue power to the beast : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.233) & they worshipped the beast . Reuelat. 13 . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.234) And looke in the 12. chapter of the Reuelation , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.235) and you shall find that the Dragon , which the Popery doth worship in stead of God , is the Deuill . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.236) M. B. Trulie I like your wordes well , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4R.237) I am persuaded the deuill doth seduce and bewitch mens mindes : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.238) But touching these that seek help at the hands of cunning men and women against witches , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} thinke so hardlie of them . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.239) I may be awry , I see well : (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.240) I will not be obstinate , if the word of God shew me mine errour . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.241) Let vs euen friendly conferre of the matter . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.242) Be not offended with me , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.243) and for my part , I will speake all that I knowe or thinke . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.244) Dan. I must intreate you likewise to beare with my plaine speaches . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.245) And let vs in the matters proceede from one point to another , standing onlie vpon that , wherein we shall be found to differ in iudgment . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.246) And let Gods word be the Iudge betweene vs . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.247) Sam. I like this wel , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.248) though I can say but litle , I wil sit and heare you . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.249) Dan. What is the first question that we shal handle ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.250) M. B. I heard you say , if I did not mistake your speach that there be witches that worke by the deuill . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.251) But yet I pray you tell me , doe you think there be such ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.252) I know some are of opinion there be none . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.253) Dan. It is so euident by the Scriptures , and in all experience , that there be witches which worke by the deuill , or rather I may say , the deuill worketh by them , that such as go about to prooue the contrarie , doe shewe themselues but cauillers . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.254) M. B. I am glad we agree in that point , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.255) I hope we shall in the rest . (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.256) What say you to this ? that the witches haue their spirits , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.257) some hath one , some hath more , as two , three , foure , or fiue , some in one likenesse , and some in another , as like cattes , weasils , toads , or mise , whome they nourish with milke , or with a chicken , or by letting them sucke now and then a drop of blood : whome they call when they be offended with anie , and lend them to hurt them in their bodies ; yea , to kill them , and to kill their cattell ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.258) Dan. Here is great deceit , and great illusion , (GIFFORD-E2-H,B4V.259) here the deuil leadeth the ignorant people into foule errours , by which hee draweth them hedlong into manie grieuous sinnes . (GIFFORD-E2-H,C1R.260) Sam. Indeed it is my desire that you woulde speake a litle playner of these poyntes : (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.262) for I haue marked well all your talke , (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.263) and $can $not {TEXT:cannot} well conceiue of the last things you dealt in . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.264) With your leaue M. B. I would aske two or three questions of my friend . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.265) Here was but seuen miles hence at W. H. one (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.266) N. the man was of good wealth , and well accounted of among his neighbours . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.267) He pined away with sicknes halfe a yeare , (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.268) and at last died . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.269) After hee was dead , his wife suspected ill dealing : (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.270) she went to a cunning man , I know not where , (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.271) and desired to know whereof her husband died . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.272) He told her that her husband died of witcherie : (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.273) he asked her if she did not suspect any therabout . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.274) She sayd there was one woman which she did not like , one mother W. (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.275) her husband and she fell out , (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.276) and he fell sick within two dayes after , (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.277) and neuer recouered again . (GIFFORD-E2-H,D4V.278) He shewed her the woman as plaine in a glasse , as we see one another , and in the very apparell she went in at that hower , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.279) for shee ware an old red cappe with corners , such as women were wont to weare ; (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.280) and in that she appeared in the glasse : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.281) Hee taught her how she might bring her to confesse . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.282) Well , she followed his counsell , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.283) went home , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.284) caused her to be apprehended and caried before a Iustice of peace . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.285) He examined her so wisely , that in the end she confessed shee killed the man . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.286) She was sent to prison , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.287) she was arraigned , condemned , and executed : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.288) And vpon the ladder shee seemed very penetent , desiring all the world to forgiue her . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.289) She said she had a spirit in the likenes of a yellow dun catte . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.290) This catte came vnto her , as she said , as she sat by her fire , when she was fallen out with a neighbour of hers , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.291) and wished that the vengeance of God might light vpon him and his . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.292) The catte bad her not be affraid , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.293) she wold do her no harme : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.294) She had serued a dame fiue yeares in Kent , that was now dead , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.295) and if she would , she would be her seruant . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.296) And wheras , said the Cat , such a man hath misused thee , if thou wilt I will plague him in his cattell . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.297) She sent the Cat , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.298) she killed three hogs and one Cow . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.299) The man suspecting , burnt a pig aliue , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.300) and as she said , her cat wold neuer go thither any more . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.301) Afterward she fel out with that N. (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.302) She sent her Cat , who told her , that she had giuen him that , which hee should neuer recouer : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.303) and indeed the man died . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.304) Now doe you not thinke the woman spake the trueth in all this ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.305) Would the woman accuse her selfe falsely at her death ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.306) Did not the Cat become her seruant ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.307) Did not she send her ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.308) Did shee not plague and kill both man and beaste ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.309) What shoulde a man thinke of this ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.310) Dan. You propounde a particular example , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.311) and let vs examine euerything in it touching the witch , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.312) for the womans fact that went to the wise man , wee are not yet come to that point . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.313) You say the Cat came to her when she was in a great rage with one of her neighbours , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1R.314) and did curse , wishing the vengeance of God to fall vpon him and his . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.315) Sam. She said so indeede . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.316) I heard her with mine own ears , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.317) for I was at the execution . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.318) Dan. Then tel me who set her in such a deuilish rage , so to curse & banne , as to wish {HELSINKI:with} that the {HELSINKI:'the'_missing} vengeance of God might light vpon him and his ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.319) did not the Cat ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.320) Sam. Trulie I thinke the Deuil wrought that in her . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.321) Dan. Uerie well , then you see the Cat is the beginner of this play . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.322) Sam. Cald you it a play ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.323) It was no play to some . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.324) Dan. Indeed the witch at last had better haue wrought hard , than bene at her play . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.325) But I meane Satan did play the Iugler : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.326) For , doth he not offer his seruice ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.327) Doth he not moue her to send him to plague the man ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.328) Tell me , is she so forward to send , as he is to be sent ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.329) Or doe you not take it , that he ruleth in her heart , and euen wholly directeth it to this matter ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.330) Sam. I am fully perswaded he ruleth her heart . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.331) Dan. Then was shee his drudge , and not he her servant , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.332) he needeth not to be hired nor intreated , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.333) for if her hart were to send him any where , vnto such as he knoweth hee $can $not {TEXT:cannot} hurt , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.334) nor seeth how to make any shewe that he hurteth them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.335) he can quickly turne her from that . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.336) Wel , the cat goeth and killeth the man , certain hogs and a Cow ; (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.337) howe could she tell that the Cat did it ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.338) Sam. How could she tell ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.339) why he told her man , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.340) and she saw and heard that he lost his cattell . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.341) Dan. The Cat would lie , would she not ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.342) for they say such cattes are lyers . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.343) Sam. I doe not trust the Cats wordes , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.344) but because the thing fell out so . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.345) Dan. Because the hogges and the Cow died , are you sure the Cat did kil them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E1V.346) might they not die of some naturall causes as you see both men and beasts are well , and die suddainlie ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.347) Sam. That were strange , if they should die of naturall causes , and fall out so fit at the time after he was sent ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.348) Dan. It is not straunge at all , as marke what I tell you and you shall easily see . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.349) There bee naturall causes of tortures and griefe , of lamenes , and of death in the bodies of men and beastes , which lie so hid and secrete , that the learneddest Physitians can not espie them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.350) but the deuill seeth them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.351) and can coniecture very neere the time , when they will take effect . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.352) Then doeth hee ply it , to bring the matter about that it may seeme he did it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.353) If hee haue any witch to deale by , he stirreth vp some occasion to set her in a rage with that partie : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.354) and then he will be sent , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.355) and telleth her he doeth it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.356) If he haue no witch to deale by , yet hee will set debate betweene the partie and some other , whom he may bring into suspition , as his greatest desire is to haue innocent bloud shed . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.357) Sam. Here is a matter brought about indeed , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.358) how could the Cat doe all this ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.359) Dan. I told you before , that the deuilles worke together , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.360) and can speedilie and most craftilie compasse thinges , which are farre beyond the reach of mans capacitie . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.361) But sometime the deuill hath power giuen him to plague (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.362) and doth the harme . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.363) Admit he had power giuen him , and did kill the cattell of this man : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.364) let vs come nowe to that , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.365) who think you , gaue him the power for to strike and kill ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.366) Did the witch giue him the power , or the Lord God ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.367) Sam. Nay surely , the witch $can $not {TEXT:cannot} giue him power . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.368) Dan. Did he receiue power after she sent him ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.369) Sam. That $can $not {TEXT:cannot} I tell . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.370) Dan. The~ mark a litle : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.371) he hath power giue~ him to plague this man in his goods : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.372) he wil do it , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.373) but he will doe it craftily . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.374) The Lord gaue him power ouer the goods of holie Iob : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.375) he worketh by instruments , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.376) for he stirreth vp the Sabeis , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.377) and they take away his Oxen , and his Asses : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2R.378) he raiseth vp also the Chaldeis , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.379) and they cary away his Camels , Iob. 1 . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.380) Euen so , hauing power to strike , he wil be sent by a witch , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.381) he could doo it without her , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.382) but he gayneth much that way , as we shall see when wee come to speake of the remedyes which men seeke . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.383) Sam. I wonder then that the man neuer had more hurt after he had burnt his pig aliue : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.384) Dan. O man , the Deuill can abide no roast meate , nor no fire , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.385) he is affraide , if they fall a roasting , that they will roast him . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.386) If they run at him with a spit red hot , they gaster him so sore , that his dame shal go her self , if she will (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.387) he will come no more there . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.388) But of these thinges we are to speake afterward in their place . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.389) Sam. You make the deuill wonderfull subtill . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.390) Dan. He is so subtill and full of all craft and fleight , that no earthly creature can escape from being seduced by him , without the light of Gods heauenly word . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.391) But let vs come now to the other man , whom the witch confessed shee killed by her Cat . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.392) Sam. Yea , that me thinketh is more than the other , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.393) the woman was told by the cunning man that her husband was killed by witcherie . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.394) The witch confessed so much at her death . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.395) The Cat told the witch , that she killed him . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.396) Dan. Here be a companie of credible persons to be beleeued : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.397) the cunning man saith the man was bewitched to death . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.398) Who told him that ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.399) Sam. His spirite that maketh the witch appeare in the glasse . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.400) Dan. That same Spirite , what doe you take him to be , an Angell , or a Deuill ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.401) Sam. Some of the cunning men say , they haue Moses or Elias , or the Spirite of some holy man . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.402) Dan. The Deuill can turne himselfe into the likenes of an Angell of light . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E2V.403) For they that doe thinke the cunning men and women deale with any other Spirite than Satan , haue no vnderstanding . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.404) Satan saith , the man was witched to death . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.405) Sam. Satan saith so , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.406) he is not to bee beleeued , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.407) but the witch confesseth it was so . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.408) Dan . Who told the witch ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.409) Sam. Her Cat that she sent . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.410) Dan. What is the Cat , a deuill ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.411) then remember the prouerbe , aske his fellow if he be a theefe . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.412) All the matter resteth vpon the testimony of deuils , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.413) and they not put to their oath . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.414) Wee will not ground vpon mans testimonie without an oath , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.415) and must we beleeue the bare worde of deuils ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.416) Sam. Do you thinke then that the man was not killed by witcherie ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.417) Dan. It may be the Lord had giuen Satan power to plague the man in his bodie , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.418) and then he vnder a colour would be sent by a witch . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.419) But it is most like that his bodie did languish and pine of naturall causes , which the deuill did know , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.420) and so would be sent , and seeme to do all , when as indeed he had no power to touch him . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.421) For , although the Lord giue the deuill power , to strike some in their bodies for their haynous sinnes , yet the most which the witches thinke their spirits doe kill at their request , doe die of naturall diseases . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.422) Sam. Then it seemeth the witches are deceiued , and mocked , when he maketh them beleeue he doeth kill and plague when hee doeth not . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.423) And againe in this , where he hath power giuen him of God , to strike man or beast , hee could doe it , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.424) and would without the witch , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.425) and so vseth the witch for a collour to draw on worse matters . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.426) Dan. I am glad you take my meaning so right : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.427) for , thinke deeply of the matters , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.428) and you shall see it must needs be so . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.429) Sam. I interrupted (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.430) M. B. I pray you goe forward now to the rest . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3R.431) Dan. Our matter which we come vnto nowe , is the helpe and remedie that is fought for against witches at the hands of cunning men . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.433) And now if it please you to propound your questions , I will answere to them the best I can . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.434) M. B. Nay truly , I see already all is naught , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.435) but yet I will obiect those things which haue caried me awrie . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.436) I take it a man is to seek remedy against euils , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.437) & I thought it was euen a gift that God gaue vnto those whom we cal cunning men , that they did very much good by . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.438) When a thing is lost , when a thing is stollen , many goe to them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.439) and they help them to it . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.440) I did know where the Communion cup was stollen : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.441) the Churchwardens rode to a wise man , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.442) he gaue them direction what night , and where they should stand , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.443) and the party that had stollen it should come thither , and confesse he had it : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.444) and certainly they had it againe . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.445) I did know one that had a child of fiue yeares old , a gyrle , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.446) it was taken piteouslie : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.447) the father was in great heauinesse , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.448) and knew not what to doe : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.449) some gaue him counsell to goe to a woman which dwelt ten miles from him , and to carie some of the clothes which the child lay in : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.450) he did so , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.451) the woman told him that his child was bewitched , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.452) and if hee did not seeke remedie in time , the childe would be lost : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.453) Shee bad him take some olde clothes , and let the child lie in them all night , and then take and burne them : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.454) and he should see by the burning , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.455) for if they did burne black , that shewed the child was bewitched , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.456) and she said further , that doubtlesse the witch would come thither : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.457) he followed her aduice , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.458) and sure as we be here , there came an old woman in , which he suspected , euen while they were burning , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.459) and made an errand : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.460) the man made no more adoe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.461) but euen laid his clowthes vpon her (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.462) and clawed her vntill the blood ranne down her cheeks , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.463) and the child was well within two dayes after . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.464) I could tell you of a stranger thing , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.465) but I haue it but by report , but yet indeed by very credible report . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E3V.466) There was a butcher by his trade that had a boy to his sonne , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.467) his name was Iohn , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.468) grieuous sores did breake forth vpon him : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.469) they laid salues , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.470) and none woulde cleaue for to draw or to ease them . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.471) The father making his moane to a friend of his , he told him whether he should goe to a verie skilfull man : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.472) he did goe , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.473) and being demanded whom he suspected , she was shewed him in a glasse , an old woman that dwelt not farre from him in an house alone : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.474) he told the cunning man , that the woman had shut vp her dore , & was gone from home out of the shyre , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.475) and so he could not tell how to come by her . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.476) he told him a way how he should fetch her home . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.477) Cut off the hair said he of the boyes head , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.478) and put it in a cloath (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.479) and burne it , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.480) and I warrant you she wil come home with al the speed she can . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.481) Burne it abroade , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.482) burne it not in a chimney , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.483) for if you doe , it will make you all affraide . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.484) The man went home (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.485) and did this . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.486) The woman came home with all speede , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.487) came to his house , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.488) came to the boy , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.489) and saide , Iohn , scratch me , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.490) hee scratched her vntil the blood followed , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.491) and whereas before nothing would draw his soares , they healed of themselues . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.492) What should a man thinke of such things ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.493) Dan. You tell of some , which haue receiued help from the hands of cunning men : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.494) And no doubt there may infinit examples be brought . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.495) Some haue lost , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.496) some haue thinges stollen from them , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.497) some are vexed in their bodies : (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.498) They come by the things againe which were lost or stollen , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.499) they are taught to doe certain things , (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.500) and are eased from their helpe , if it deserue the name to be called help , from the deuill . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.501) And do you thinke a man may lawfullie seek helpe at the hands of the deuill ? (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.502) M. B. Some are perswaded that they doe not seeke helpe at the hand of deuils , when they goe to the wise men : but that it is a gift which God hath giuen them , euen to do good withall . (GIFFORD-E2-H,E4R.503)