When I was before the Lordes at Lambeth , I was the first that was called in , all beit , Maister Doctour the Vicar of Croydon was come before me , and diuers other . (MORELET2-E1-H,502.3) After the cause of my sendinge for , declared vnto me wherof I some what merueyled in my minde , consideringe that they sent for no mo temporall men but me I desired the sight of the othe , which they shewed me vnder the great seale . (MORELET2-E1-H,502.4) Than desired I the sight of the Acte of the Succession , which was deliuered me in a printed roll . After which redde secretely by my self , and the othe considered with the acte , I shewed vnto them , that my purpose was not to put any faulte eyther-1 in the acte or any man that made it , or in the othe or any man that sware it , nor to condempne the conscience of any other man . (MORELET2-E1-H,502.5) But as for my self in good faith my conscience so moued me in the matter , that though I wolde not denie to swere to the succession , yet vnto the othe that there was offred me I coulde not sware , without the iubardinge of my soule to perpetuall dampnacion . (MORELET2-E1-H,502.6) And that if they doubted whither I did refuse the othe only for the grudge of my conscience , or for any other fantasy , I was ready therin to satisfie them by mine othe . Which if they trusted not , what shoulde they be the better to giue me any other ? (MORELET2-E1-H,503.7) And if they trusted that I wolde therin swere true , than trusted I that of their goodnes they woulde not moue me to swere the oth that they offred me , perceiuing that for to swere it was against my conscience . (MORELET2-E1-H,503.8) Vnto this my Lorde Chauncellor said , that thei all were sorie to here me say thus , and see me thus refuse the oth . (MORELET2-E1-H,503.9) And they saide all that on their faith I was the very first that euer refused it ; which wolde cause the Kynges Highnes to conceiue great suspicion of me and great indignacion towarde me . (MORELET2-E1-H,503.10) And therwith they shewed me the roll , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.11) and let me se the names of the lordes and the comons which had sworne , and subscribed their names allredy . Which notwithstanding when they saw that I refused to swere the same my self , not blaming any other man that had sworne , I was in conclusion commanded to goe downe in to the gardein , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.12) and there vpon I taried in the olde burned chamber , that loketh in to the gardein (MORELET2-E1-H,503.13) and wolde not go downe because of the heate . (MORELET2-E1-H,503.14) In that time saw I Maister Doctour Lattemer come in to the gardein , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.15) and ther walked he with diuers other doctours and chapleins of my Lorde of Caunterbury , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.16) and very mery I saw hym , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.17) for he laughed , (MORELET2-E1-H,503.18) and toke one or tweyne aboute the necke so handsomely , that if they had been women , I wolde haue went he had ben waxen wanton . (MORELET2-E1-H,503.19) After that came Master Doctour Wilson forth from the lordes (MORELET2-E1-H,503.20) and was with two gentilmen brought by me , and gentilmanly sent straight vnto the Towre . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.21) What time my Lorde of Rochester was called in before them , that can not I tell . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.22) But at night I herd that he had ben before them , (MORELET2-E1-H,504.23) but where he remayned that night , and so forth till he was sent hither , I neuer harde . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.24) I hard also that Maister Vicare of Croydon , and all the remenaunt of the priestes of London that were sent for , wer sworne , and that they had such fauour at the counsels hande , that they wer not lingered nor made to daunce any longe attendaunce to their trauaile and cost , as sutours were somtime wont to be , but were spedde apace to their great comforte , so farre forth that Maister Vicare of Croydon , either for gladnes or for drines , or els that it might be sene quod ille notus erat pontifici went to my Lordes buttry barre , and called for drinke , and dranke valde familiariter . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.25) Whan they had played their pageant and were gone out of the place , than was I called in again . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.26) And than was it declared vnto me , what a nomber had sworne , euen since I went aside , gladly , without any styckinge . Wherin I laid no blame in no man , (MORELET2-E1-H,504.27) but for mine owne self answered as before . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.28) Now as well before as than , they somewhat laide vnto me for obstinacye , that where as before , sith I refused to swere , I wolde not declare any speciall parte of that othe {HELSINKI:other} that grudged my conscience , and open the cause wherfore . (MORELET2-E1-H,504.29) For therunto I had said to them , that I ferid lest the Kinges Highnes wolde as they saide take displeasure inough towarde me for the only refusal of the othe {HELSINKI:other} . And that if I should open and disclose the causes why , I shoulde therwith but further exasperate his Highnes , which I wolde in no wise do , (MORELET2-E1-H,505.30) but rather wolde I abide al the daunger and harme that might come towarde me , than giue his Highnes any occasion of further displeasure , than the offringe of the oth vnto me of pure necessite constrained me . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.31) Howbeit when they diuers times imputed this to me for stubbernes and obstinacie that I wolde neither swere the oth , nor yet declare the causes why , I declined thus farre toward them , that rather than I wolde be accompted for obstinate , I wolde vpon the Kynges gracious licence or rather his such commaundement had , as might be my sufficient warraunt , that my declaracion shoulde not offend his Highnes , nor put me in the daunger of any of his statutes , I wolde be content to declare the causes in writing ; and ouer that to giue an oth in ye beginninge , that if I might find those causes by any man in such wyse answered , as I might thinke mine owne conscience satisfied , I wolde after that with all mine hart swere the principall oth , to . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.32) To this I was answered , that though the Kynge wolde giue me licence vnder his letters patent , yet wolde it not serue against the statute . Wherto I said , that yet if I had them , I wolde stande vnto the trust of his honour at my parell for the remenaunt . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.33) But yet it thinketh me , loe , that if I may not declare the causes without perill , than to leaue them vndeclared is no obstinacy . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.34) My Lord of Canterbury takinge hold vpon that that I saide , that I condempned not the conscience of them that sware , saide vnto me that it apered well , that I did not take it for a very sure thinge and a certaine , that I might not lawfully swere it , but rather as a thinge vncertain and doubtfull . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.35) But than said my Lord you knowe for a certenty and a thinge without doubt , that you be bownden to obey your souerain lorde your Kyng . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.36) And therfore are ye bounden to leaue of the doute of your vnsure conscience in refusinge the othe {HELSINKI:other} , and take the sure way in obeying of your prince , and swere it . (MORELET2-E1-H,505.37) Now al was it so , that in mine owne minde me thought my self not concluded , yet this argument semed me sodenly so suttle and namely with such authorite comminge out of so noble a prelate's mouth , that I coulde againe answere nothinge therto but only that I thought my self I might not well do so , because that in my conscience this was one of the cases , in which I was bounden that I shoulde not obey my prince , sith that what so euer other folke thought in the matter , whose conscience and learninge I wolde not condempe nor take vpon me to iudge yet in my conscience the trouth semed on the tother side . Wherin I had not enformed my conscience neither sodeinly nor sleightley , but by longe laysure and diligent serche for the matter . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.38) And of trouth if that reason may conclude , than haue we a redy way to avoyde all perplexities . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.39) For in what so euer matters the doctours stande in great doubt , the Kynges commaundement giuen vpon whither side he list soyleth all the doutes . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.40) Than said my Lorde of Westminster to me , that how so euer the matter semed vnto mine owne minde , I had cause to feare that mine owne minde was erronious , when I see the great counsail of the realme determine of my mynde the contrary , and that therfore I ought to chaunge my conscience . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.41) To that I answered , that if there were no mo but my self vpon my side , and the whole Parlement vpon the tother , I wolde be sore afraide to lene to mine owne mynde only against so many . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.42) But on the other side , if it so be , that in some thinges for which I refuse the oth , I haue as I thinke I haue vpon my parte as great a counsail and a greater to , I am not than bounden to change my conscience , and conferme it to the counsail of one realme , against the generall counsail of Christendome . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.43) Vpon this Maister Secretary as he that tenderly fauoreth me , saide and sware a gret oth , that he had leuer that his owne only sonne which is of trouth a goodly yonge gentilman , and shall I trust come to much worship had lost his hedde , than that I shoulde thus haue refused the oth . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.44) For surely the Kynges Highnes wolde now conceiue a great suspicion against me , and thinke that the matter of the nonne of Canterbury was all contriued by my drift . To which I saide that the contrary was true and well knowen , and what so euer shoulde mishap me , it laye not in my powre to helpe it without perill of my soule . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.45) Than did my Lorde Chaunceller repete before me my refusell vnto Mister Secretary , as to hym that was going vnto the Kynges Grace . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.46) And in the rehearsing , his Lordship repeted again , that I denied not but was content to sware to the succession . Wherunto I said , that as for that poynt , I wolde be content , so that I might se my oth in that poynt so framed in such a maner as might stande with my conscience . (MORELET2-E1-H,506.47) Than said my Lorde : ' Mary , Maister Secretary marke that to , that he will not sware that neither , but vnder some certaine maner . ' (MORELET2-E1-H,506.48) ' Verily no , my Lorde , ' quoth I , ' but that I will see it made in such wise first , as I shall my self se , that I shall neither be forsworne nor swere against my conscience . (MORELET2-E1-H,507.49) Surely as to swere to the succession I see no perill , (MORELET2-E1-H,507.50) but I thought and thinke it reason , that to mine owne othe I loke well my self , and be of counsaile also in the fashion , and neuer entended to swere for a pece , and set my hande to the whole othe {HELSINKI:other} . (MORELET2-E1-H,507.51) How be it as helpe me God , as touchinge the whole othe {HELSINKI:other} , I neuer withdrewe any man from it , (MORELET2-E1-H,507.52) nor neuer aduised any to refuse it , (MORELET2-E1-H,507.53) nor neuer put , nor will , any scruple in any mannes hedde , (MORELET2-E1-H,507.54) but leaue euery man to his owne conscience . (MORELET2-E1-H,507.55) And me thinketh in good faith , that so were it good reason that euery man shoulde leaue me to myne . ' (MORELET2-E1-H,507.56) Our Lord blisse you all . (MORELET2-E1-H,508.59) If I had not ben , my derely beloued doughter , at a firme and fast point , I trust in God's great mercie this good great while before , your lamentable letter had not a litle abashed me , surely farre aboue all other thynges , of which I here diuers times not a fewe terrible towarde me . (MORELET2-E1-H,508.60) But surely they all towched me neuer so nere , nor were so greuous vnto me , as to se you , my welbeloued childe , in such vehement piteous maner labour to perswade vnto me , that thinge wherin I haue of pure necessite for respect vnto myne owne soule , so often gyuen you so precise answere before . Wherin as towchinge the pointes of your letter , I can make none answere , (MORELET2-E1-H,508.61) for I doubt not but you well remembre , that the matters which moue my conscience without declaracion wherof I can nothinge touche the poyntes I haue sondry tymes shewed you that I will disclose them to no man . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.62) And therfore doughter Margaret , I can in this thynge no further , (MORELET2-E1-H,509.63) but lyke as you labour me againe to folowe your minde to desire and praye you both againe to leaue of such labour , and with my former answeres to holde your self content . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.64) A deadly grief vnto me , and moch more deadly than to here of mine owne death , for the feare therof , I thanke our Lorde , the feare of hel , the hope of heauen and the passion of Christ daily more and more aswage , is that I perceiue my good sonne your husband , and you my good doughter , and my good wife , and mine other good children and innocent frendes , in great displeasure and daunger of great harme therby . The let wherof , while it lieth not in my hand , I can no further but commit all vnto God . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.65) Nam in manu Dei saith the scripture cor regis est , et sicut diuisiones aquarum quocunque voluerit , impellit illud whose highe goodnes I most humbly besech to encline the noble harte of the Kynges Highnes to the tender fauor of you all , and to fauour me no better than God and my self knowe that my faithfull hart toward hym and my dayly prayour for hym , do deserue . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.66) For surely if his Highnes might inwardlie see my true minde such as God knoweth it is , it wolde I trust sone aswage his high displeasure . Which while I can in this worlde neuer in such wise shewe , but that his Grace may be perswaded to beleue the contrary of me , I can no further go , (MORELET2-E1-H,509.67) but put all in the handes of hym , for feare of whose displeasure for the saue garde of my soule stirred by mine owne conscience without insectacion or reproch laieng to any other mans I suffre and endure this trouble . Out of which I besech hym to bringe me , when his will shall be , in to his endelesse blisse of heauen , and in the meane while , gyue me grace and you both in all our agonies and troubles , deuoutly to resort prostrate vnto the remembraunce of that bitter agony , which our Sauiour suffred before his passion at the Mount . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.68) And if we diligently so do , I verily trust we shall find therin great comfort and consolacion . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.69) And thus my deare doughter the blessed spiritt of Christ for his tender mercy gouerne and guide you all , to his pleasure and your weale and comfortes both body and soule . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.70) Your tender louynge father , Thomas More , Knight . (MORELET2-E1-H,509.71) The Holy Spirite of God be with you . (MORELET2-E1-H,544.74) Your doughterly louyng letter , my derely beloued childe was and is , I faithfully assure you , much more inward comfort vnto me , then my penne can wel expresse you , for diuers thinges that I marked therin but of all thinges most especially , for that God of his high goodnes geueth you the grace to consider the incomparable difference , betwene the wretched estate of this present lyfe , and the welthy state of the lyfe to come , for them that dye in God , and to praye God in such a good Christen fashion , that it may please hym it doth me good here to rehearse your owne wordes ' of his tender pitie so firmely to rest our loue in hym , with litle regard of this worlde , and so to fle sinne and embrace vertue , that we may say with S. Paule , Mihi viuere Christus est et mori luchrum . Et illud , Cupio dissolui et esse cum Christo . ' (MORELET2-E1-H,544.75) I besech our Lord , my dearly beloued daughter , that holesome prayer that he hath put in your mynde , it may like hym to giue your father the grace , daylie to remember and praye , and your self as you haue written it , euen so dayly deuoutly to knele and praye it . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.77) For surely if God geue vs that , he geueth vs and will geue vs therwith , all that euer we can well wishe . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.78) And therfore good Marget , when you praye it , praye it for vs both : (MORELET2-E1-H,545.79) and I shall on my parte the lyke , in such maner as it shall lyke our Lorde to geue me poore wretch the grace , that lykewise as in this wretched worlde I haue been very gladde of your company and you of mine , and yet wolde if it might be as naturall charitie bindeth the father and the childe so we may reioyce and enioy ech others company , with our other kynsefolke , alies and frendes euerlastingly in the glorious blysse of heauen : and in the menetyme , with good counsaile and prayer ech help other thitherwarde . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.80) And where you write these wordes of your selfe , ' But good father , I wretch am farre , farre , farthest of all other from such poynt of perfection , our Lorde send me the grace to amende my lyfe , and continually to haue an eie to mine ende , without grudge of death , which to them that dye in God , is the gate of a welthy lyfe to which God of his infinite mercie bringe vs all . Amen . Good Father strenght my frayltie with your deuoute prayers . ' The father of heauen mote strenght thy frailtie , my good daughter and the frayltie of thy fraile father too . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.81) And let vs not doute but he so will , if we wyll not be slacke in calling vpon hym therfor . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.82) Of my poore prayers such as they be ye may be bold to reken . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.83) For Christen charitie and naturall loue and your verie doughterly dealing funiculo triplici , vt ait scriptura difficile rumpitur both binde me and straine me therto . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.84) And of yours I put as litle doubte . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.85) That you feare your owne frailtie Marget , nothinge mislyketh me . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.86) God geue vs both twaine the grace , to dispayre of our owne self , and whole to depende and hange vpon the hope and strenght of God . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.87) The blessed apostle S. Paule founde such lacke of strength in himself , that in his owne temptacion he was fain thrise to call and cry out vnto God , to take that temptacion from hym . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.88) And yet sped he not of his prayer , in the maner that he required . (MORELET2-E1-H,545.89) For God of his high wisdome , seing that it was as him self saith necessarie for hym to kepe hym from pryde , that els he might peraduenture haue fallen in , wolde not at his thrise praying , by and by take it from hym , (MORELET2-E1-H,546.90) but suffred hym to be panged in the payne and feare therof , geuing hym yet at the last this comfort against his feare of falling Sufficit tibi gratia mea . By which wordes it well semeth , that the temptacion was so stronge what so euer kind of temptacion it was that he was very fearde of falling , throwgh the feblenesse of resisting that he began to feele in hym self . Wherfore for his comfort God answered Sufficit tibi gratia mea puttinge hym in suretie , that were he of hym selfe neuer so feble and faint , nor neuer so lykely to fall , yet the grace of God was sufficient to kepe hym vp and make him stand . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.91) And our Lord sayd ferther , Virtus in infirmitate proficitur . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.92) The more weke that man is , the more is the strenght of God in his saueguard declared . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.93) And so S. Paule saith Omnia possum in eo qui me confortat . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.94) Surely Megge a fainter hearte than thy fraile father hath , canst you not haue . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.95) And yet I verely trust in the great mercye of God , that he shall of his goodnesse so staye me with his holy hand , that he shall not finally suffer me to fall wretchedlie from his fauour . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.96) And the lyke trust deare doughter in his high goodnes I verely conceue of you . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.97) And so much the more , in that there is neither of vs both , but that if we call his benefites to minde , and geue hym oft thankes for them , we may finde tokens many , to geue vs good hope for all our manifold offences toward hym , that his great mercye , when we wyll hartely call therfore , shall not be withdrawen from vs . (MORELET2-E1-H,546.98) And verely , my deare daughter , in this is my great comfort , that albeit , I am of nature so shrinking from paine , that I am allmost afeard of a philip , yet in all the agonies that I haue had , wherof before my coming hether as I haue shewed you ere this I haue had neither small nor few , with heauy fearfull heart , forecasting all such peryls and paynfull deathes , as by any maner of possibilitie might after fall vnto me , and in such thought lyen longe restles and wakyng , while my wyfe had went I had slept , yet in anye such feare and heauy pensifenes I thanke the mightie mercie of God I neuer in my minde entended to consent , that I woulde for the enduring of the vttermost , doe any such thinge as I shoulde in mine owne conscience for with other mens I am not a man mete to take vpon me to medle thinke to be to my self , such as shoulde dampnably cast me in the displeasure of God . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.99) And this is the lest poynt that any man may with his saluacion come to , as farre as I can see , (MORELET2-E1-H,547.100) and is bounden if he see peryll to examine his conscience surely by learning and by good counsaile and be sure that his conscience be such as it may stande with his saluacion , or els reforme it . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.101) And if the matter be such , as both the parties may stande with saluacyon , then on whither side his conscience fall , he is safe ynough before God . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.102) But that mine owne may stand with my own saluacion , therof I thanke our Lorde I am very sure . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.103) I besech our Lord bring all partes to his blisse . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.104) It is now , my good doughter , late . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.105) And therfore thus I commend you to the holy Trinitie , to gyde you , coumfort you and direct you with his Holy Spirite , and all yours and my wyfe with all my children and all our other frendes . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.106) Thomas More , Knyght . (MORELET2-E1-H,547.107) Owr Lorde blisse you goode dowghter and your goode husbande and your litle boye and all yours and all my children and all my godchildren and all owr freindis . (MORELET2-E1-H,563.110) Recommende me whan you maye to my goode doughter Cecilye , whom I beseche owr Lorde to comforte , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.111) and I sende her my blessinge and to all her children (MORELET2-E1-H,564.112) and pray her to praye for me . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.113) I sende her an handekercher (MORELET2-E1-H,564.114) and God comforte my goode sonne her husbande . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.115) My goode dowghter Daunce hath the picture in parchemente that yow deliuered me from my Ladie Coniars , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.116) her name is on the backe side . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.117) Shewe her that I hertely pray her that you maye sende it in my name to her agayne for a token from me to praye for me . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.118) I like speciall well Dorithe Coly , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.119) I praye you be good vnto her . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.120) I woulde wytte whether this be she that yow wrote me of . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.121) If not I praye yow be goode to the tother , as yow maye in her affliction and to my good doughter Jone Aleyne to giue her I pray yow some kynde aunswere , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.122) for she sued hither to me this daye to pray you be goode to her . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.123) I cumber you goode Margaret muche , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.124) but I woulde be sorye , if it shoulde be any lenger than to morrowe , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.125) for it is S. Thomas evin , and the vtas of Sainte Peter (MORELET2-E1-H,564.126) and therefore to morowe longe I to goe to God , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.127) it were a daye very meete and conveniente for me . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.128) I neuer liked your maner towarde me better then when you kissed me laste (MORELET2-E1-H,564.129) for I loue when doughterly loue and deere charitie hathe no laisor to looke to worldely curtesye . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.130) Fare well my deere childe (MORELET2-E1-H,564.131) and praye for me , (MORELET2-E1-H,564.132) and I shall for you and all your freindes that we maie merily meete in heauen . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.133) I thanke you for your greate coaste . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.134) I sende nowe vnto my goode dowghter Clemente her algorisme stone (MORELET2-E1-H,564.135) and I sende her and my goode sonne and all hers Goddes blissinge and myne . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.136) I praye yow at tyme conveniente recommende me to my goode sonne Johan More . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.137) I liked well his naturall fashion . (MORELET2-E1-H,564.138) Owr Lorde blisse him and his goode wife my louinge doughter , to whom I praye him be goode , as he hathe greate cause , (MORELET2-E1-H,565.139) and that if the lande of myne come to his hande , he breake not my will concerninge his sister Daunce . (MORELET2-E1-H,565.140) And our Lorde blisse Thomas and Austen and all that thei shall haue . (MORELET2-E1-H,565.141)