LUDUS LITERARIUS : OR , THE GRAMMAR SCHOOLE . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.3) CHAP. I. (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.4) A DISCOURSE BETWEENE TWO SCHOOLEMASTERS , CONCERNING THEIR FUNCTION . IN THE END DETERMINING A CONFERENCE ABOUT THE BEST WAY OF TEACHING , AND THE MANNER OF THEIR PROCEEDING IN THE SAME . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.5) SPOUDEUS . PHILOPONUS . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.6) Spoud. God save you , good Sir : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.8) I am glad to see you in health . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.9) Phil. What , mine old acquaintance , M. Spoudeus ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.10) Spoud. The very same , Sir . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.11) Phil. Now , I am as right glad to see you well ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.12) you are heartily welcome to this my poore house . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.13) Spoud. Sir , I give you many thankes . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.14) Phil. But how have yo {COM:sic} done these many yeeres ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.15) Spoud. I thanke God I have had good health , ever since we lived in the Colledge together : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,1.16) but for my time , I have spent it in a fruitlesse , wearisom , and an unthankfull office ; in teaching a poore countrey schoole , as I have heard , that your selfe have also beene imployed in the same kinde of life , and am therefore perswaded , that you have had some experience of my griefe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.17) Phil. Experience , say you ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.18) yea indeed I have had so much experience of that whereof you now complaine , that if all other things were according thereunto , I might bee able to teach very many . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.19) But I pray you Sir , what good occasion hath brought you into these parts ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.20) It is a wonder to see you in this countrey . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.21) I should hardly have knowne you it is so long since we lived together , now above twentie yeeres , and also for that you seeme to mee so aged but that I did better remember your voice , then your favour . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.22) Spoud. Sir , you see the proverbe verified in me ; Curafacit canos . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.23) Cares and troubles have made me aged long before my time . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.24) As for my journey , a very great and necessarie occasion hath driven me into these quarters , to come even unto you , to seek your helpe and direction , in a matter wherein I hope you may exceedingly pleasure me , without hurt any way , or so much as the least prejudice unto your selfe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.25) Phil. You might thinke me very unkinde , and forgetfull of our ancient love , if I should not be ready to shew you any kindnesse ; especially sith you have taken so long a journey unto me . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.26) But I pray you what is the matter ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.27) Spoud. The matter if you wil give me leave is this . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.28) I have heard that you have long taken great paines in teaching ; and that of late yeeres , you have set your selfe wholly to this happy kinde of travell ; to finde out the most plaine , easie , and sure waies of teaching , for the benefit both-1 of your selfe , and others : whereby you have attained much happy knowledge in this behalfe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.29) Now my long journey hath been for this same very purpose , to desire some conference with you , and to intreat your loving favour & helpe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.30) I should thinke my selfe for ever bound unto you , if you would vouchsafe to impart unto me some of those experiments , which I have been certainly informed , that by your travels you have obtained . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,2.31) For , I myselfe have so long laboured in this moiling and drudging life , without any fruit to speake of , and with so many discouragements and vexations in stead of any true comfort , that I waxe utterly wearie of my place , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.32) and my life is a continuall burden unto me : Insomuch as that it causeth me to feare , that God never called me to this function , because I see his blessing so little upon my labours ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.33) neither can I finde any delight therein : whereas , notwithstanding , I heare of some others , and even of our old acquaintance , whom God blesseth greatly in this calling ; though such be verie rare , some one or two spoken of almost in a whole countrey . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.34) Phil. Indeed I have travelled in this too unthankefull a calling as you doe most justly complaine (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.35) and that in all this time , since we lived together . In the greatest part wherof , I have been well acquainted with your griefes and vexations ; which are no other then doe ordinarily waite upon this our function : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.36) yet this I thankefully acknowledge according to your former speech , and to give you likewise some reviving that now of late , since I set my selfe more conscionably and earnestly to seeke out the best waies of teaching by inquiring , conferring and practicing constantly all the most likely courses , which I could heare or devise , God hath granted unto me , to finde so great contentation , and joy of this same labour in my schoole , that it hath swallowed up the remembrance of all my former grievances . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.37) For I doe plainely see such a change , that now I doe not only labour in my place usually without griefe , or any wearinesse at all , but that I can take ordinarily more true delight and pleasure in following my children by observing the earnest strife and emulation which is amongst them , which of them shall doe the best , and in the sensible increase of their learning and towardnesse then anie one can take in following hawkes and hounds , or in anie other the pleasantest recreation , as I verily perswade my selfe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,3.38) And the rather , because after my labour ended , my chiefest delight is in the remembrance thereof ; and in the consideration of the certaine good , that I know shall come thereby , both-2 unto Church and Common-wealth : and also that my labour and service is acceptable to the Lord , though all men should be unthankfull . So that now I am never so well , as when I am most diligent in my place . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.39) Yea , I doe seeme to my selfe to find withall so great a blessing upon my labours , above all former times , that if I had knowne the same courses from the beginning , I doe assure my selfe that I had done ten times more good , and my whole life had been full of much sweet contentment , in regard of that which it hath bin . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.40) Although my labours have never been utterly unprofitable , but that I have still sent forth for every yeere , some unto the Universities , and they approved amongst the better sort of those which have come thither : yet this hath beene nothing to that good which I might undoubtedly have done . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.41) Spoud. Sir , I am perswaded that you speake as you thinke : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.42) and therefore I doe grow into greater hope , that you having had so much experience of the griefe in the one , and joy in the other , will be more compassionate of me , and more readie also to impart your experiments with me , to make me partaker of your comfort . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.43) Phil. For communicating unto you , for your helpe and comfort , what God hath made knowne unto me , I take it to be my dutie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.44) We all of us know the danger of hiding our talent , or keeping backe our debt , when the Lord having given us abilitie , doth call upon us to pay it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.45) Spoud. I thank God unfainedly good Sir for this heartie affection , which I doe finde in you , and for this readinesse to communicate with mee the fruits of your travels . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.46) You shall see I hope , that I shall receive them , with like alacritie and thankfulnesse , and be as readie to imploy them to the best , to doe my uttermost service in my place and calling hereafter . So that although my first beginnings have bin small , through ignorance of better courses , yet I trust my after-fruits shall much increase . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.47) Hereby my last dayes shall proove my best , and make some amends for that which is past : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,4.48) and also my new comforts shall sweeten all the remainder of my life , and make me likewise to forget the daies that are past . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.49) How true is that Proverbe of wise Salomon , that heavinesse in the heart of man doth bring it down , but a good word doth rejoyce it ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.50) You have revived my heart , and put new spirits into mee , by that which you have already said . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.51) Phil. The Lord will revive you , I hope , and all of us also who labour in this toiling kind ; by causing us to find more sound fruit , and pleasant content in our teaching , then ever yet we felt ; if we will but set our selves to seeke of him , and readily impart our several experiments for the good of all : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.52) if withall we will receive thankefully , and cheerefully put in practice those gracious helpes of so many learned men , which he in this last age of the world hath afforded aboundantly , above all former times , very many whereof lie utterly hid and unknowne to the greatest sort , unto this day : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.53) And that partly through lack of care and conscience , to do that good which we might , and ought in our places ; partly through extreme unthankfulnes , neglecting the rich gifts of the Lord , so plentifully powred down from heaven upon us , to leave the world more without excuse . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.54) But as for mine owne selfe , all that I can promise is , onely my study and desire , to doe you and all other the greatest good that ever I shall be able ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.55) and hereunto we have all bound our selves . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.56) If I know any thing wherein I have , or you may receive benefit , I acknowledge it wholly where it is due , even to him who giveth liberally to all who seeke him aright , and casteth no man in the teeth . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.57) And resting upo~ his rich bounty for a further supply , if you shall propound in order the particular points , wherein you would wish my advice , I shal very willingly go on with you , and acquaint you with all things which hitherto I have learned in all my search , and more hereafter as his wisdome shall adde unto me . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.58) Spoud. I rejoice in your confidence , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.59) & with that so it may bee . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.60) In the meane time I like well of your motion , of going thorow in order the principall matters of difficultie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,5.61) If therefore you shall thinke meete , I shall reduce all to certaine heads , which a friend of mine shewed unto mee of late , set down in a certain Table , which it may be that your selfe have seene . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.62) Phil. Let me heare what was contained in it , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.63) and then I shall soone answer you , whether I have seene it or no . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.64) Spoud. There was contained in it , a briefe summe of sundry particular benefits , which may bee brought to Grammar schooles , to make schollers very perfect in every part of good learning meet for their yeeres ; and that all both Masters and Schollers may proceede with ease , certainty and delight , to fit all apt Schollers for the Universitie every way , by fifteene yeeres of age . Concerning which severall heads , although it were a most happy worke if they could be attained unto all of them being in my minde very excellent , and indeed the whole , such a worke as must needs bring a perpetuall benefit , both-4 to Church , and Common-wealth , and that not onely to the present , but to all succeeding ages yet that I may speake freely , what I conceive of them , many of them seeme very strange unto me . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.65) And , although I will not say that they are utterly impossible : yet indeed I take them to be altogether unlikely ; considering the continuall paines and vexation that my selfe have undergone , and yet could never come in many of them , neere unto the least part thereof . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.66) Phil. By that little which you have mentioned , I take it that I have seene the very same : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.67) and for them I doe not only thinke it , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.68) but also doe know assuredly , that by the Lord's gracious assistance & blessing , through constant diligence they may be all effected ; for that I have knowne so much triall of all of them , as is sufficient to induce any man therunto : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.69) besides that they doe all stand upon plaine and sure grounds , as I trust I am able to make evident demonstration in each particular so as any man of understanding may perceive cleerely , that they may be done . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.70) Neither doe I doubt but to satisfie you in every point , and to cause you to yeeld unto the evidence hereof , before we part , if you will but onely aske and still shew me wherein you are not satisfied . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,6.71) Moreover , I am so very confident herein , not onely upon mine owne reason and experience , but because I have knowne the judgements of sundry very learned and experienced both Schoolemasters and others , who have beene acquainted with these selfe-same heads , which you have mentioned , who , though at the first reading of them , they have beene of your judgement , and have thought as you doe , yet within a quarter of an houre after that they have taken a little triall , in some of the most unlikely , and seen the reason of them , have rested fully satisfied and assured of the whole , that all might be done , as standing on the like grounds . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.72) And therefore I have no cause to distrust the like successe with your selfe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.73) Spoud. Sir , if you shall doe this for me , I shall acknowledge my selfe to have received a very great benefit , and be thankfull unto the Lord & to your selfe as his instrument ; and doe my uttermost endevour to put them all constantly in practice , that I may confirme them by mine owne experience , and finde the same happy comfort , that your selfe have done . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.74) I will therefore beginne in order according unto those heads , and so propound the questions , how each thing may be done , and desire your answer unto them severally . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.75) Phil. Nay rather , for the manner of proceeding , I take this to be far more easie and commodious to us both , and wherby God may direct this conference so , as to profit many others besides our selves ; To go thorow all the whole course of learning , from the first step , beginning at the very first Elements , even at the A.B.C. and so to ascend to the highest top of learning , which can bee required in Grammar schooles ; to make a scholler each way fit for the University . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.76) Thus to run thorow all the necessary points appertaining to the same , as neere as we can remember ; To make hereby the whole way easie and ready to all good learning , and to ranke every head in the right order & proper place , according to the due manner of proceeding in Schooles . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,7.77) So wee may insert these points which you have spoken of ; dividing the whole into several Chapters , for the full distinguishing and plain setting down of every matter . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.78) To the end therefore that I may bee the better guided and occasioned to impart all things unto you , I shall request you , first to propound all the severall points of learning in order , from point to point as wee preoceed . Secondly , in the propounding of them , to shew mee in every one , what course you your selfe have taken , wherein you have found so little fruit or comfort , as you complaine , and which you thinke to be most ordinary in the countrey schooles . Wherein you shall faile in omitting any necessary head or Chapter , or in misplacing any , I shal afford you my best direction . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.79) Spoud. I will accomplish your desire so well as I can . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.80) I doubt not of your patience seeing you take mee thus of a suddaine ; and that you who have beter thought of these things , wil guide me continually , until we have gone thorow the whole . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.81) Phil. I trust you are so perswaded of mee . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.82) Therefore I pray you begin . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,8.83) {COM:insert_helsinki_sample_1_here} 3 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.86) You may helpe them to spell thus , besides that course which is usuall . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.87) Let so many as are beginners , or who $can $not {TEXT:cannot} reade perfectly , stand together , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.88) and then poase them without booke , one by one . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.89) First , in syllables of two letters , as they are set downe in their A.B.C. (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.90) and where one misseth , let his next fellow tell : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.91) if he $can $not {TEXT:cannot} , then , let some other . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.92) Then examine them in syllables of three letters , after in moe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.93) And ever what {COM:sic} syllable they misse , marke it with a dent with the nayle , or a pricke with a pen , or the like : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.94) and when you have marked out those wherein they so misse , poase them oft over , not forgetting due praise to them who doe best . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.95) One halfe houre would be spent daily in this kind of examining , untill they be perfect in any syllable , or word . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.96) To make children to take a delight in spelling , let them spell many syllables together , which differ but only in one letter , as hand , band , land , sand , &c . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.97) These syllables and words following , I have observed , to bee of the hardest for children to spell : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.98) I will set you them downe together in this short briefe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.99) They may serve for spelling , reading , or writing , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.100) and may soone be gotten by being often poased , read or written over . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,16.101) {COM:word_list_omitted} These are some of the hardest syllables , as I said : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.104) your selfe may adde moe as you meet with them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.105) Also this is to be observed in spelling ; that before on you spell or write commonly ti not ci as salvation , not salvacion , though we pronounce it as ci . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.106) But this is to be knowne chiefly , by the Latine words from whence they come . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.107) Right pronuntiation of words , and continuall practice in spelling , are the surest way to come to spell truely . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.108) If you pronounce the word false , which you would have your childe to spell , hee spelleth it false : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.109) for he spelleth according as it is pronounced to him , or as he useth to pronounce . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.110) As for example ; aske the childe how hee spelles a strea , as in many places the countrey manner is to pronounce it hee will spell strea or stre : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.111) but aske him how hee spels a strawe and to pronounce it , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.112) and he will spell strawe . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.113) To direct further how to come to perfection in spelling or writing right , I shall have occasion to speake after . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.114) In joining syllables together , they must be taught to utter every syllable by it selfe , truely , plainely , fully , and distinctly , as we heard of the letters before ; and so also as that others who heare may understand ; ever sounding out the last syllable : as sal-va-ti-on . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.115) Thus they may goe thorow their Abcie , and Primer . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.116) And if they reade them twise over , that they may be very perfect in them , it will be the better for them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.117) For , the second reading of any booke doth much incourage children , because it seemeth to be so easie then ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.118) and also it doth imprint it the more . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.119) Besides that , they will runne it over so fast at the second time , as it wil be no losse of time at all unto them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,17.120) After these they may reade over other English bookes . Amongst which , the Psalmes in metre would be one , because children will learne that booke with most readinesse and delight through the running of the metre , as it is found by experience . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.121) Then the Testament , in which the discreet Master may keepe his scholler lesse or more , untill he think him meet to enter into the Accedence . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.122) If any require any other little booke meet to enter children ; the Schoole of Vertue is one of the principall and easiest for the first enterers , being full of precepts of civilitie , and such as children will soone learne and take a delight in , thorow the roundnesse of the metre , as was said before of the singing Psalmes : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.123) And after it the Schoole of good manners , called , the new Schoole of vertue , leading the childe as by the hand in the way of all good manners . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.124) By these meanes , children if they be well applyed , and continually kept unto it , may be taught so to reade within a yeere or little more , as they may bee meet to enter into their Accedence , by that time that they be six yeere old at the uttermost ; especially if they bee in any measure apt , and much practised in spelling the hardest syllables . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.125) For dividing or distinguishing of syllables , this one observation is to be remembred ; That what consonants are usually joined in the beginnings of words , those are not to be disjoined and separate in the middest of words , except in Compound words . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.126) But of this wee shall speake more fitly after . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.127) And thus much may suffice for the present , for the speedy reading of English ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.128) for hereof I have had much certaine experience . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.129) Spoud. I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} justly dislike of anything which you have said herein , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.130) it standeth all with so great reason : chiefely to make children so perfect in the hardest syllables . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.131) For , they being perfect in these , must need attain all the rest in a short space . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.132) Except onely one thing which you uttered ; which indeede seemes a strange Paradox to mee : Namely , that some wise & experienced , would have childre~ taught to call and pronounce all their letters , and to spell any syllable before they know a letter on the booke . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.133) Phil. This is very true which you say ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.134) it may seeme a Paradox to them who have not tryed it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,18.135) I my selfe was of your minde when I heard it first . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.136) Yet setting my selfe to make some triall of it , for the reverence I bare to him of whom I heard it , and for that he shewed me experience of it in a child not foure yeeres old , I found it the easiest , pleasantest and shortest way of all , where one would begin in a private house with little ones playing . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.137) The manner is thus . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.138) 1 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.139) You must teach them , as I said , to call their five Vowels , and to pronounce them right : Which they will presently learne , if you doe but onely cause them to repeat them oft over , after you , distinctly together thus : a , e , i , o , u , after the manner of five bels , or as we say ; one , two , three , foure , five . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.140) 2 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.141) Then teach them to put the consonants in order before every vowell , and to repeate them oft over together ; as thus : to begin with b , and to say , ba , be , bi , bo , bu . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.142) So d . da , de , di , do , du . f . fa , fe , fi , fo , fu . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.143) Thus teach them to say all the rest , as it were singing them together , la , le , li , lo , lu ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.144) The hardest to the last , as ca , ce , ci , co , cu : and ga , ge , gi , go , gu . In which the sound is a little changed in the second and third syllables . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.145) When they can doe all these , then teach them to spell them in order , thus ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.146) What spels b-a ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.147) If the childe $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell , teach him to say thus ; b-a , ba : so putting first b . before every vowell , to say b-a ba , b-e be , b-i bi , b-o bo , b-u bu . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.148) Then aske him againe what spels b-a , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.149) and hee will tell you ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.150) so all the rest in order . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.151) By oft repeating before him , hee will certainly doe it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.152) After this if you aske him how hee spels b-a , he will answer b-a ba . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.153) So in all others . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.154) Next these , teach them to put the vowels first , as to say , ab , eb , ib , ob , ub . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.155) Then thus , a-b ab , e-b eb , i-b ib , o-b ob , u-b ub . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.156) After , what spelles a-b , e-b , &c . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.157) Thus to goe with them backward and forward , crosse , in and out , untill they can spell any word of two letters . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.158) Then you may adjoine those of three letters : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.159) Afterwards , all the hard syllables , to tell what any of them spels , till they be perfect in all , or as you shall thinke meet . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,19.160) By this meanes , and by a little repeating of the letters of the Alphabet over before them , by three or foure letters together , as they stand in order , so as they may best sound in the children's eares , they will soone learne to say all the letters of the A.B.C. if you will . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.161) As to repeat them thus : {COM:alphabet_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.162) To say them thus by roat , will nothing hinder but further them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.163) Then they may presently be taught to know the letters upon the booke , either one by one , finding first which is a , in the Alphabet ; and after in any other place . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.164) Then to finde which is b , and so through all the rest as you will . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.165) Then when they are cunning in their letters and spelling , if you make them to understand the matter which they learne , by questions , for a little at the first , they will goe on in reading , as fast as you will desire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.166) The easier and more familiar the matter is to them , the faster they learne . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.167) Thus may any poore man or woman enter the little ones in a towne together ; and make an honest poore living of it , or get somwhat towards helping the same . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.168) Also the Parents who have any learning , may enter their little ones , playing with them , at dinners , and suppers , or as they sit by the fire , and finde it very pleasant delight . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.169) So they may helpe to gaine their children a yeere or two in learning , at the beginning , & also the Grammar Schooles of this labour and hindrance . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.170) Spoud. You have perswaded mee very much concerning this doubt also . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.171) Surely , Sir , howsoever this may seeme but a toy , yet all tender parents will much rejoice in it , and acknowledge it an exceeding benefit , to have their children so entred ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.172) and this time being gotten in the beginning , will bee found in the end as you truely said . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.173) Yet there is another matter that comes unto my remembrance , about which I have taken no small griefe and discouragement many a time , concerning this point of reading English . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.174) I will mention it here , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.175) and desire your judgement how to redresse it , although it might happely come in fitter afterwards . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.176) The trouble is this : That when as my children doe first enter into Latine , many of them will forget to reade English , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,20.177) and some of them bee worse two or three yeeres after that they have been in construction , then when they began it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.179) Now if you could teach me how to helpe this likewise that they might as well goe forward still in reading English as in Latine , I should account this a very great benefit . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.180) For , some of their Parents , who use me the kindliest , will bee at me , that their children may every day reade some Chapters of the Bible , to helpe their reading of English . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.181) Now this I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} possibly doe , but they must needs bee hindred in their Latine , in some lessons or necessarie exercises ; and either be behinde their fellowes , or else trouble all their fellowes very much , that they $can $not {TEXT:cannot} goe so fast forward as they should , but stay for these readers . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.182) Others being more ignorant or malicious , upon every light occasion , are readie to rage & raile at me , for that their children , as they say , doe get no good under me , but are worse and worse . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.183) For , where as they could have read English perfectly it may be when they came to me , now they have forgotten to doe it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.184) Thus am I grieved on every side , and vexed daily , let mee labour never so much , and spend my heart amongst them for to doe them good . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.185) Phil. Sir , herein I can say , as she in the Poet ; Haud ignara mali miseris succurrere disco . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.186) For I have tasted deepely of the same griefe untill verie lately , within this yeere or two . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.187) Yet now I seeme to my Selfe , to finde as sensible and continuall a growth amongst all my Schollers , in their English tongue as in the Latine . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.188) And not onely for the reading of it , but also for understanding it , and abilitie to utter their mindes of any matter , wherewith they are acquainted , or which they learne in Latine ; and also how to expresse the meaning of the Latine in proprietie , and puritie of our owne tongue : so that I am quite delivered from that clamour . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,21.189) But to tell you what I thinke , wherein there seemes unto mee , to bee a verie maine want in all our Grammar schooles generally , or in the most of them ; whereof I have heard some great learned men to complaine ; That there is no care had in respect , to traine up schollers so , as they may be able to expresse their minds purely and readily in our owne tongue , and to increase in the practice of it , as well as in the Latine or Greeke ; whereas our chiefe indevour should be for it , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.190) and that for these reasons . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.191) 1 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.192) Because that language which all sorts and conditions of men amongst us are to have most use of , both-2 in speech and writing , is our owne native tongue . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.193) 2 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.194) The puritie and elegancie of our owne language , is to be esteemed a chiefe part of the honour of our Nation : which we all ought to advance as much as in us lieth . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.195) As when Greece and Rome and other nations have most flourished , their languages also have been most pure : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.196) and from those times of Greece and Rome , we fetch our chiefest patterns , for the learning of their tongues . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.197) 3 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.198) Because of those which are for a time trained up in schooles , there are very few which proceed in learning , in comparison of them that follow other callings . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.199) Spoud. This complaint is not without just cause : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.200) for I doe not know any schoole , wherein there is regard had hereof to any purpose ; notwithstanding the generall necessitie and use of it , and also the great commendation which it brings to them who have attained it : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.201) but I thinke every minute an houre , untill I heare this of you , how my trouble and shame may be avoided , and how I may obtaine this facultie to direct my children , how they may goe thus forward , not only in reading English perfitly , but also in the proprietie , puritie and copie of our English tongue , so as they may utter their mindes commendably of any matter which may concerne them , according to their age and place . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.202) Phil. I will but name the meanes unto you now : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.203) for I shall have occasion to shew them all more particularly hereafter . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.204) Besides the daily use of distinct reading over their English parts to get them perfectly , and of right reading all other things which they learne in Latine , as your selfe doe know ; these meanes following , by the blessing of God will accomplish your desire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,22.205) 1 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.207) The continuall use of the bookes of construing of Lillies Rules , by causing them to learne to construe , and to keepe their Grammar rules , onely by the helpe of those translations . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.208) This I finde one very good use of these books , besides some other which I shall mention after . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.209) 2 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.210) The daily use , and practice of Grammaticall translation in English , of all the Schoole Authours , which the yonger sort doe learne ; causing them each day out of those to construe , and repeate , whatsoever they learne . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.211) This I also have prooved by happie experience , to be a rare helpe to make young Schollers to grow very much , both-2 in English and Latine . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.212) But of all these , for the manner , benefits , and use of them , I shall have occasion to speake at large . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.213) 3 . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.214) Besides these , they would have every day some practice of writing English heedily , in true Orthographie ; as also of translating into English ; or , of writing Epistles , or familiar Letters to their friends , as well in English as in Latine . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.215) Amongst some of them , the reporting of a Fable in English , or the like matter , trying who can make the best report , doth much further them in this . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.216) And generally , amongst all those that can write , the taking of notes of Sermons , and delivering them againe , or making repetitions , is a speciall meanes . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.217) Also striving to expresse whatsoever they construe , not onely in proprietie , but in varietie of the finest phrase , who can give the best . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.218) This chiefly in the higher fourmes : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.219) So reading forth of Latine into English ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.220) first in proprietie , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.221) then in puritie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.222) By these , and some use of the Historie of the Bible , and the like , which I shall be occasioned to mention after ; you may finde their growth , according to your desire , and much above your expectation . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.223) Spoud. Undoubtedly Sir , these must needs be very availeable ; because schollers may have hereby , so much use of the English every day , above that which is practised in any Schoole which I have knowne . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.224) But for any such translations of the Schoole-Authors , I have not heard of them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,23.225) Onely I have seene the bookes of construing Lillies rules , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.227) and some of my children have them , though I feared that it would rather make them idle , being but a truant's booke . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.228) Indeed I never conceived so much of them as you say : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.229) I shall better thinke of the use thereof . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.230) Phil. There is not the best thing but it may be abused . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.231) But for that booke as the others , I shall shew and prove unto you the commodities of them , above all that you would imagine . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.232) Experience makes mee confident : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.233) Yet to returne unto your selfe , concerning the complaint of the Parents for their children going backward in reading English , when they first learne Latine ; the chiefe fault in truth is in the Parents themselves ; although wee poore schoolemasters must be sure to beare all . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.234) For if such murmuring Parents would but cause their children , every day after dinner or supper , or both , to reade a Chapter of the Bible , or a piece of a Chapter , as leisure would permit , and to doe it constantly ; thereby to shew their love to the Lord , and his Word , and their desire to have the Word dwell plentifully in their houses , to have their children trained up in it , as young Timothy was ; then , I say , this complaint would soon be at an end : (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.235) for they should either see then , their children to increase in this , (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.236) or else they should discerne the fault to bee in their children's dulnesse , and not in our neglect . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.237) Notwithstanding , sith that they are so very few of whom wee can hope , that they have any care of this dutie in their houses , in respect of all the rest who omit it , and yet all the blame must surely rest on us , it concerneth us so much as we can to redresse it ; and therefore use all good meanes , to cut off all occasions of clamours , and of discrediting ourselves , and our schooles , and to contend for the greatest profiting of our children , as well in this , as in any other part of learning ; the use of this being , as we heard , most generall and perpetuall . (BRINSLEY-E2-P1,24.238)