The Method wherein we shall give our Evidence , will be this ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.2) we shall first begin with this piece of Evidence , that we shall prove , that Hicks was actually in the Army , and in the Rebellion ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.3) and then we shall prove the several subsequent Facts as have been opened . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.4) We desire Mr. Pope , Mr. Fitzherbert , and Mr. Taylor may be sworn . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.5) Lisle . My Lord , as for what is said concerning the Rebellion , I can assure you , I abhorr'd that Rebellion as much as any Woman in the world --- (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.6) L. C. J. Look you , Mrs. Lisle , because we must observe the common and usual Methods of Trial in your Case , as well as others , I must interupt you now : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.7) You shall be fully heard when it comes to your turn to make your Defence , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.8) but any thing you say now beforehand is altogether irregular and improper . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.9) You , it may be , are ignorant of the Forms of Law , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.10) therefore I would inform you : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.11) You are first to hear what your Accusation is ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.12) you shall ask any Questions of the Witnesses that you will , after the King's Counsel have examin'd them , as they go along ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.13) and when all their Testimony is delivered , you shall be heard to make your own Defence , and have full scope and Liberty to inlarge upon it as long as you can : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.14) it is a business that concerns you in point of Life and Death ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.15) all that you have or can value in the World lies at stake , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.16) and God forbid that you should be hinder'd either-1 in time or any thing else , whereby you may defend yourself ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.17) but at present it is not your turn to speak , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.18) for the Forms of Law require your Accusers first to be heard ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.19) and it is absolutely requisite , that the usual Forms and Methods of Law be inviolably observ'd , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.20) and be sure it does the Prisoner no injury that the Law is kept so strictly to ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.21) and we have that Charity , as well as Justice , that it becomes , and is not below all Courts to have for Persons in your Condition ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.22) and we are obliged to take care , that you suffer no Detriment or Injury by any illegal or irregular Proceedings . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.23) For tho' we sit here as Judges over you by Authority from the King , yet we are accountable , not only to him , but to the King of Kings , the great Judge of Heaven and Earth ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.24) and therefore are obliged , both by our Oaths , and upon our Consciences , to do you Justice , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.25) and by the Grace of God we shall do it , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.26) you may depend upon it . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.27) And as to what you say concerning yourself , I pray God with all my heart you may be innocent . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.28) Pray call your Witnesses . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.29) Mr. Pollexfen . Swear Mr. Pope , Mr. Fitzherbert , and Mr. Taylor . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.30) Which was done . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.31) L. C. J. Who do you begin with ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.32) Mr. Pollexfen . Mr. Pope , pray will you tell my Lord and the Jury , what you know concerning this Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.33) Pray tell your whole Knowledge . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.34) Mr. Pope . My Lord , I had the misfortune to be taken Prisoner by Monmouth's Army , going about some Business of my own ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.35) and after I had been taken some few days , we happened to be brought to Keinsham , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.36) and we were put into Sir Thomas Bridge's Stables , and kept under a Guard there . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.37) Whilst we were there , I did see that Gentleman that goes by the Name of Mr. Hicks , who is now in Salisbury Goal , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.38) and there I saw him yesterday ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.39) he came (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.40) and asked for the Prisoners , which were about four or five in number , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.41) and he asked them , how they did ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.42) They made him little reply . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.43) Then he desired to know how we were dealt with , whether he were kindly used , or no ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.44) I replied , no , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.45) for we had had but a piece of Bread these two Days . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.46) He made me answer , that he was sorry for that , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.47) for it was otherwise intended . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.48) And there was with him another Gentleman that was called the King's Chaplain , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.49) that is , the Duke of Monmouth's ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.50) and afterwards he pretended he would do us a Kindness in speaking to the King as he called him for us . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.51) He talked with us some little time , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.52) and by and by he began to ask us , what was the reason that we were there ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.53) We told him we were taken Prisoners ; upon which , saith he , this King meaning , as I suppose , the late Duke of Monmouth is a good King and a Protestant ; and a great deal to that purpose , with some reflecting Words on the Government , and upon the Person of the King : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.54) and he told us , he wondered what we had to say for ourselves , being Protestants , that we did what we did in serving a Popish Prince , and not obeying a Protestant one . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.55) This is the Substance of what I have to say upon this matter . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.56) L. C. J. Tho' you were pleased to phrase it , Sir , in the beginning of your Testimony , a Misfortune that you were taken Prisoner by the Rebels ; yet , I suppose , you could not be without the Consolation of a good Conscience , that you suffered in the way of doing your Duty . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.57) Mr. Pope . My Lord , I am very well satisfied I did suffer in a good Cause . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,107.58) L. C. J. There is one piece of happiness in it ; that by that means you are able to give this Testimony this day , and do the King this piece of Service . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.59) But pray , Sir , let me ask you this Question : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.60) Are you sure the Man you saw yesterday at Salisbury is the same Man that you spoke with at Keinsham , that goes by the Name of Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.61) Mr. Pope . Yes , my Lord ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.62) and when I was there yesterday with him , I asked him , whether he knew me ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.63) and told him , said I , you may well remember you saw me at Keinsham . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.64) Saith he , I do not remember that ever I saw your Face before . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.65) Said I , you remember Sir Thomas Bridge's Stables there ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.66) Said he , I remember I did see some Prisoners . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.67) Said I , was not it there you saw me , and had such a Discourse with me ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.68) He seemed to deny it , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.69) but I told him , a Man of your Coat should not tell Untruth ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.70) you $can $not {TEXT:cannot} but remember you saw me there . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.71) Saith he , I will recollect my Memory if I can ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.72) and he afterwards sent to the George in Salisbury for me , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.73) and then he told me , he did recollect that he saw and talked with such a Person there . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.74) Mr. Rumsey . Sir , I would ask you this one Question ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.75) did you see him in the Army about the time of the Fight ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.76) Mr. Pope . I think I saw him about a day or two before . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.77) L. C. J. Had he any Weapon on ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.78) --- Mr. Pope . I think not , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.79) Mr. Pollexfen . Our next Witness is Mr. Fitzherbert . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.80) Pray , Sir , will you give an account to my Lord and the Jury , what you know of this Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.81) Mr. Fitzherbert . My Lord , during the time that I was a Prisoner with this Gentleman at Keinsham , the 25th of June , I saw this Man , John Hicks , who held a Discourse with Mr. Pope near an Hour's time , disparaging the Government and his Majesty , and extolling the Duke of Monmouth , what a brave Prince , and how good a Protestant he was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.82) L. C. J. Then he was among them , was he ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.83) Mr. Fitzherbert . Yes , my Lord , he was , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.84) and I saw him yesterday at Salisbury . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.85) L. C. J. Is that the same Man that you saw in Monmouth's Army ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.86) Mr. Fitzherbert . Yes , he owns himself to be the same Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.87) Mr. Pollexfen . How often did you see him there besides that time when he discoursed with Mr. Pope ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.88) Mr. Fitzherbert . I saw him sometimes out of the Town , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.89) but I never discoursed him {COM:sic} . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.90) L. C. J. Did you see him there before or after that Discourse ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.91) Mr. Fitzherbert . It was after . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.92) L. C. J. Would the Prisoner ask this Witness , or the other , any Questions ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.93) --- Lisle . No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.94) Mr. Pollexfen . Then , Mr. Taylor , what say you to the matter ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.95) Mr. Taylor . My Lord , I saw him at the same time that these Gentlemen speak of at Sir Thomas Bridge's , at Keinsham . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.96) Mr. Pollexfen . Were you a Prisoner there , Sir ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.97) Mr. Taylor . Yes , I was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.98) Mr. Pollexfen . What Place was it you saw him in ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.99) Mr. Taylor . It was in the Stables the first time that I saw him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.100) L. C. J. What Discourse had you with him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.101) What did he say to you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.102) Mr. Taylor . He said , he wonder'd at us , that we should take up Arms against so good a Prince , and a Protestant , as the Duke of Monmouth , and against the Protestant Religion , and hold up with Popery : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.103) Saith he , York is but a Papist ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.104) and a great many such Words . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.105) L. C. J. Did you see him afterwards ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.106) Mr. Taylor . Yes , my Lord ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.107) but I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell particularly the Time and Place ; up and down the Army . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.108) L. C. J. Did you see him at Salisbury ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.109) --- Mr. Taylor . Yes . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.110) L. C. J. Is that the same Man ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.111) --- Mr. Taylor . Yes , it is . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.112) Mr. Pollexfen . Next , my Lord , we come to prove the Message and Correspondence between this same Hicks , and the Prisoner Mrs. Lisle . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.113) Mr. Jennings . Swear Mr. James Dunne . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.114) Which was done . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.115) Mr. Pollexfen . If your Lordship please to observe , the Times will fall out to be very material in this Case : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.116) The Battle at King 's Edgmore was the 6th of July ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.117) three or four days after was the taking of Monmouth , and my Lord Grey at Ringwood ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.118) upon the 26th of July , ten or twelve Days after the taking of Monmouth , was this Message sent by Dunne to Mrs. Lisle : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.119) so we call Dunne to prove what Message he carried upon the 26th , and what Answer was return'd ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.120) he will tell you , that Tuesday was the time appointed for them to come , in the Night , and all the other Circumstances . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.121) But withal , I must acquaint your Lordship , that this Fellow , Dunne , is a very unwilling Witness ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.122) and therefore , with submission to your Lordship , we do humbly desire your Lordship would please to examine him a little the more strictly . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.123) L. C. J. You say well : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.124) Hark you , Friend , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.125) I would take notice of something to you by the way , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.126) and you would do well to mind what I say to you . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.127) According as the Counsel that are here for the King seem to insinuate , you were employ'd as a Messenger between these Persons , one whereof has already been proved a notorious Rebel , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.128) and the other is the Prisoner at the Bar , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.129) and your Errand was to procure a Reception at her House for him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.130) Dunne . My Lord , I did so . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.131) L. C. J. Very well . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.132) Now mark what I say to you , Friend : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.133) I would not by any means in the world endeavour to fright you into any thing , or any ways tempt you to tell an Untruth , but provoke you to tell the Truth , and nothing but the Truth , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.134) that is the Business we come about here . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.135) Know , Friend , there is no Religion that any man can pretend to , can give a Countenance to Lying , or can dispense with telling the Truth : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.136) Thou hast a precious immortal Soul , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.137) and there is nothing in the World equal to it in value : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.138) There is no relation to thy Mistress , if she be so ; no relation to thy Friend ; nay , to thy Father or thy Child ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.139) nay , not all the temporal Relations in the world can be equal to thy precious immortal Soul . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.140) Consider that that Great God of Heaven and Earth , before whose Tribunal thou , and we , and all Persons are to stand at the last Day , will call thee to an account for the rescinding his Truth , and take vengeance of thee for every Falshood thou tellest . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.141) I charge thee , therefore as thou wilt answer it to the great God , the Judge of all the Earth , that thou do not dare to waver one tittle from the Truth , upon any account or pretence whatsoever : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.142) For tho' it were to save thy Life , yet the value of thy precious and immortal Soul is much greater , than that thou should'st forfeit it for the saving of any the most precious outward Blessing thou dost enjoy ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,108.143) for that God of Heaven may justly strike thee into eternal Flames , and make thee drop into the bottomless Lake of Fire and Brimstone , if thou offer to deviate the least from the Truth , and nothing but the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.144) According to the Command of that Oath that thou hast taken , tell us who employ'd you , when you were employ'd and were ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.145) Who caus'd you to go on this Message , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.146) and what the Message was {COM:sic} ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.147) For I tell thee God is not to be mock'd , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.148) and thou can'st not deceive him , tho' thou may'st us . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.149) But I assure you , if I catch you prevaricating in any the last tittle and perhaps I know more than you think I do ; no , none of your Saints can save your Soul , nor shall they save your Body neither I will be sure to punish every variation from the Truth that you are guilty of . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.150) Now come (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.151) and tell us , how you came to be employ'd on such a Message , what your Errand was , and what was the Issue and Result of it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.152) Dunne . My Lord , there came a Man to my House , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.153) and desired me to go of a Message to my Lady Lisle's . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.154) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} tell me when it was ? And what Hour of the Day ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.155) Dunne . What , when the Man came to my House ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.156) --- L. C. J. Yes . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.157) Dunne . That I will , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.158) L. C. J. Be sure you do , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.159) and do not speak one word but what is true , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.160) and let the Truth come out o' God's Name . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.161) Dunne . It was Friday Night . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.162) L. C. J. What Day of the Month was it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.163) Dunne . Truly , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} exactly tell that . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.164) L. C. J. Was it after the Fight at Weston , or before ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.165) Dunne . It was after the Battle , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.166) L. C. J. How many Days after was it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.167) --- Dunne . I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} exactly tell . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.168) L. C. J. Was it the Friday Seven-night after the Fight ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.169) Dunne . No , it was not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.170) L. C. J. What was desired of thee at that time ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.171) Dunne . He desired me to go of a Message to my Lady Lisle's . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.172) L. C. J. Dost thou know what Man it was that came to thee , and desired thee to go on this Message ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.173) Dunne . My Lord , I can tell what manner of Man he was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.174) L. C. J. Give me a Description of the Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.175) Dunne . He was a short black Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.176) L. C. J. You say he was a short Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.177) Dunne . Yes , he was so , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.178) L. C. J. Was he a swarthy , or a ruddy complectioned Man ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.179) Dunne . He was not ruddy , but swarthy . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.180) L. C. J. And what did he say to thee ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.181) Dunne . He desired me to go to my Lady Lisle's for him , for one Mr. Hicks ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.182) and I went accordingly . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.183) L. C. J. What were you to say when you came there ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.184) Mr. Pollexfen . What Reward were you to have ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.185) --- Dunne . That Man that came to me , promis'd me that I should be well rewarded for my pains . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.186) L. C. J. Where do you live ? by the way . Dunne . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.187) In Warminster Parish . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.188) L. C. J. How far is it from my Lady Lisle's ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.189) Dunne . Six and twenty Miles , or thereabouts . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.190) L. C. J. You did go , you say , When ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.191) --- Dunne . Upon the Saturday . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.192) L. C. J. Well , we are got thus far ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.193) you went to my Lady Lisle's upon the Saturday , and from one Mr. Hicks : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.194) What was your Errand ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.195) Dunne . To know of my Lady Lisle , whether she would entertain Mr Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.196) L. C. J. Well , now go on . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.197) Dunne . When I came to my Lady Lisle's House , I went to the Bailiff that belong'd to my Lady Lisle . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.198) L. C. J. Ay , who was that Bailiff ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.199) Tell us his Name ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.200) I love to know Men's Names . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.201) Dunne . His Name is Carpenter , I think . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.202) L. C. J. Well , and what did you say to him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.203) Dunne . I ask'd him , whether my Lady would entertain one Hicks , or no ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.204) He told me , $he $'d {TEXT:he'd} have nothing to do with it , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.205) but sent me to my Lady , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.206) and to my Lady I went ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.207) and when I came , I ask'd my Lady , whether she would entertain one Mr. Hicks , or no ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.208) She said , she did not know but she might . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.209) L. C. J. Well , what then ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.210) --- Dunne . My Lord , $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} tell you . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.211) L. C. J. Ay , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} take time to recollect thyself ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.212) but be sure thou speak nothing but the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.213) What said my Lady to thee ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.214) Dunne . My Lady said , they might come to her House : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.215) And upon those Terms I went away home again , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.216) and return'd that Answer to the Messenger that came to me . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.217) I came home on the Sunday night , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.218) and that Message I deliver'd unto him , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.219) and told him , that upon Tuesday Night they might come unto my Lady's . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.220) L. C. J. You told him , you say , they might come on Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.221) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , I did . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.222) L. C. J. Therefore I would fain know from you , How you came to tell him , they might come upon Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.223) For you said just now , my Lady's Answer was , that she did not know but she might entertain him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.224) Had you any such Direction from Carpenter , or any one else , to tell him , that they might come on Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.225) --- Dunne . I had such Directions from my Lady . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.226) L. C. J. Very well ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.227) then let us know what were the particular Directions she gave ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.228) Tell us , what further Directions you had from her ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.229) Dunne . I will , my Lord , presently , when I have recollected myself . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.230) L. C. J. Ay , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} compose thyself , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.231) recollect thyself . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.232) Then he paused for a good while . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.233) L. C. J. Come now , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.234) tell us , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.235) did she give you any Directions what time of the Day they might come thither ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.236) Remember yourself well , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.237) and tell us what she said to you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.238) Dunne . My Lord , I will , as near as I can , speak the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.239) L. C. J. Ay , in God's Name , $let $'s {TEXT:let's} have the Truth , whatsoever comes on it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.240) --- Dunne . I will , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.241) L. C. J. Come then , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.242) what time did she give Directions that they should come ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.243) --- Dunne . On Tuesday in the Evening . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.244) L. C. J. Upon your Oath , did she say Tuesday in the Evening ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.245) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , she did . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.246) L. C. J. What time in the Evening , early or late ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.247) --- Dunne . She did not give any Directions at all about that , but only in the Evening . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.248) L. C. J. What else did she say to you , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.249) tell us all the Discourse that passed between you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.250) Dunne . She said nothing else that I remember , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,109.251) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} , how did she say she would receive him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.253) Tell us what Words she used , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.254) for thou must needs imagine , we do suppose there must needs be some longer Discourse between you , than what you talk of . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.255) Dunne . All that she said was , she would entertain him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.256) L. C. J. Him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.257) Who ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.258) --- Dunne . Mr. Hicks . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.259) L. C. J. Just now you talked of them , and they : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.260) Did you mention no body to her but Mr. Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.261) Dunne . My Lord , I was sent to see whether she would receive Mr. Hicks . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.262) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} , Friend , mind what thou has said , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.263) and recollect thyself , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.264) $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} repeat it to thee , because thou shalt see that I remember it all very well . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.265) It seems that a Man , a short black Man came to your House in Warminster Parish to get you to go for a Message to Mrs. Lisle's , to know whether she would entertain one Hicks ; and that you went upon the Saturday , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.266) and first you met with Carpenter , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.267) and ask'd him the Question , whether his Lady would entertain one Mr. Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.268) and he told you he would have nothing to do with it ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.269) and thereupon you went to Mrs. Lisle , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.270) and asked her the Question , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.271) and she told you that you should tell the Man that they should come the Tuesday following , and come in the Evening , and she would entertain him : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.272) Is not this what you have said ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.273) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , it is . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.274) L. C. J. Well then , now let us know what other Discourse you had with her ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.275) --- Dunne . My Lord , I do not remember any thing more . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.276) Mr. Pollexfen . Pray Mr. Dunne , did she ask you any Questions , whether you knew Mr. Hicks or no ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.277) Dunne . Nothing all of that , that I remember . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.278) Mr. Coriton . Do you believe that she knew Mr. Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.279) Dunne . I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.280) Mr. Coriton . Do you believe that she knew him before ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.281) Dunne . I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell truly . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.282) L. C. J. Why , dost thou think she would entertain any one that she had no Knowledge of merely upon thy Message ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.283) Mr. Dunne , Mr. Dunne , have a care , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.284) it may be more is known of this matter than you think for . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.285) Dunne . My Lord , I tell you the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.286) L. C. J. Ay , be sure you do , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.287) do not let me take you prevaricating ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.288) Dunne . My Lord , I speak nothing but the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.289) L. C. J. Well , I only bid you have a care , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.290) Truth never wants a Subterfuge , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.291) it always loves to appear naked , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.292) it needs no Enamel , nor any Covering ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.293) but Lying and Sniveling , and Canting , and Hicksing , always appear in Masquerade . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.294) Come , go on with your Evidence . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.295) Dunne . My Lord , I say I went back again and returned my Answer to the same Man that brought the Message to me . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.296) L. C. J. Pray let me ask you one Question ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.297) Were you got to your House before you found him , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.298) or was he waiting there for you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.299) Dunne . He came to my House after I came home . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.300) L. C. J. It was the same Man , you say ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.301) --- Dunne . Yes , it was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.302) L. C. J. Had he no Company with him neither time ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.303) --- Dunne . No . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.304) L. C. J. Well , and what Answer did you return him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.305) Dunne . I told him , my Lady said she would entertain Mr. Hicks ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.306) he asked when he might come up ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.307) I told him upon Tuesday , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.308) and upon Tuesday they came to my House . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.309) L. C. J. What time did they come to your House ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.310) Dunne . About seven of the Clock in the Morning . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.311) L. C. J. What Day of the Month was it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.312) Dunne . Truly , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} readily tell what Day of the Month it was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.313) L. C. J. Was it one or two that came to thy House ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.314) Dunne . My Lord , there were three in all . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.315) L. C. J. Who were those three , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.316) Dunne . My Lord , there was the little black Man that brought the Message , and two other People . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.317) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} describe what two other People these were ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.318) Dunne . One was a full fat black Man , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.319) and the other was a thin black Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.320) L. C. J. Who was that thin black Man ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.321) Dunne . My Lord , I did not know him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.322) L. C. J. Did you not fancy which was Hicks ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.323) Dunne . My Lord , I never knew any of their Names . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.324) L. C. J. How long did they stay at your House ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.325) Dunne . About three Hours . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.326) L. C. J. When did you go away from thence ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.327) Dunne . About eleven of the Clock . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.328) L. C. J. Which way did you go then ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.329) Dunne . We went through Deverel , and from Deverel to Chilmark , and from Chilmark to Sutton , and from Sutton to the Plain , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.330) and then one Barter met me ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.331) I knew the Way no further , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.332) and he was to shew me the Way from thence . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.333) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} hold , before thou goest any further , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.334) I desire to be satisfied about a Question or two : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.335) Dost thou say thou didst not know the way ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.336) Dunne . No , my Lord , after I came to the Plain . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.337) L. C. J. How didst thou find the way when thou wentest on thy Message first ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.338) --- Dunne . My Lord , after I came to Salisbury-Plain , I met with one Barter , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.339) and he shewed me the way . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.340) L. C. J. Where is that Barter ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.341) Mr. Pollexfen . My Lord , we have him here ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.342) we shall examine him by and by , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.343) there he stands . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.344) Being a very lusty Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.345) L. C. J. Sure that was not the little Man thou spokest of ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.346) Dunne . No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.347) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} let me understand thee then , if I can . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.348) Thou didst say at first there was only a little Man with a black Beard , that was concerned with thee about that Message ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.349) now thou talkest of some Guide that thou hadst , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.350) $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} who did guide thee , let us know ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.351) Dunne . My Lord , I say I went so far as Fovant , and so to Chalk , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.352) but when I came upon the Plain , I did not know my way to my Lady Lisle's House at Moyle's Court ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.353) I asked twenty People in the Street which was my way , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.354) but no body would tell me ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.355) at last I spoke to one John Barter to go with me to my Lady Lisle's , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.356) and he and I did agree to go together , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.357) and he shewed me the way (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.358) and carried me to the House . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.359) L. C. J. Thou shouldst have told us this before , Man , that we might have understood it . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.360) Where did you lie upon the Saturday Night ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,110.361) Dunne . At Fovant . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.363) L. C. J. I thought you had said , you had come to Mrs. Lisle's on Saturday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.364) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , I did so , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.365) and came back to Fovant that Night . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.366) L. C. J. And where did you lie on Sunday Night ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.367) Dunne . I lay at my own House on Sunday Night . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.368) L. C. J. And Barter came along with you when you came on Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.369) Dunne . Yes , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.370) L. C. J. And did you go the same way upon the Tuesday that you went upon the Saturday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.371) Dunne . Do you mean , my Lord , the same way I came at first ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.372) L. C. J. Ay . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.373) Dunne . No , my Lord , we came to Sutton , not to Fovant . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.374) L. C. J. Why did not you go the same way upon the Tuesday that you went upon the Saturday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.375) Dunne . Because I had appointed to meet him at such a Place . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.376) L. C. J. Come , $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} answer me freely , and according to Truth : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.377) Who did desire thee , or order thee to go another way than that thou went'st at first ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.378) How came it to pass ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.379) Let us know the Truth ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.380) Dunne . My Lord , I did count that to be the nearer way , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.381) and therefore I went that way . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.382) L. C. J. That $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be the Reason , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.383) for thou wouldst have gone the nearest way at first , I believe ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.384) come , tell us truly ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.385) Dunne . My Lord , I know no other Reason . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.386) L. C. J. Come , tell us what Towns and Villages you did go through then upon Saturday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.387) Dunne . My Lord , I went through several , Chilmark and Fovant . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.388) L. C. J. And what Villages did you go through upon the Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.389) Dunne . I went through most of the same Towns . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.390) L. C. J. What , and at Noon-day too ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.391) --- Dunne . Yes . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.392) L. C. J. And how chanc'd when you went that way , that you appointed Barter to meet you in another Place at Fovant ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.393) Dunne . Because I did not know the way afterwards . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.394) L. C. J. Then let me ask you another Question : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.395) Did you go the same way from Fovant to my Lady Lisle's as you went before ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.396) Dunne . No , we did not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.397) L. C. J. How came that to pass ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.398) Dunne . I would have went the same way , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.399) but they would not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.400) L. C. J. Which way did you go then ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.401) Dunne . We went through Chalk , and so thro Rockshorne , and from Rockshorne to Fording-Bridge , and so to Moyle's Court . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.402) L. C. J. How far is this about now ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.403) Dunne . Truly , my Lord I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} readily tell . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.404) L. C. J. How many Miles is it from Fovant to Lady Lisle's ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.405) Dunne . My Lord , it is about fourteen or fifteen . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.406) L. C. J. How many Miles was it the way that you went upon the Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.407) --- Dunne . It might be twenty , my Lord , for aught I know . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.408) L. C. J. What was the Reason that Barter went that way ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.409) Dunne . Truly , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.410) L. C. J. Pray let me ask you another Question then ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.411) What Discourse had you with Barter ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.412) Or what Bargain did you make with him for shewing you the way ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.413) For you would not ask him to go with you without promising him some Reward . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.414) Dunne . My Lord , I asked him to shew me the way to my Lady Lisle's House , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.415) and told him I was going for one Hicks ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.416) and so he took his Horse (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.417) and went with me . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.418) L. C. J. What Reward did you promise him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.419) Dunne . Half-a-Crown , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.420) and Half-a-Crown I gave him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.421) L. C. J. Well , that was the first time ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.422) and what did you promise him the second time ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.423) Dunne . The second time one of the two Men gave him five Shillings . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.424) L. C. J. What Man was it ? --- (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.425) Dunne . It was the black Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.426) L. C. J. What was his Name ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.427) It was not the little black Man that came first to desire you to go on the Message , was it ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.428) Dunne . No , my Lord , it was not he that spoke to me first . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.429) L. C. J. Did not that little Man that spoke to you first promise you a Reward for your Pains ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.430) Dunne . No , my Lord , that Man never promised me any thing . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.431) L. C. J. Did he go along with you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.432) Dunne . No , my Lord , he did not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.433) L. C. J. Who were the two Men that went with you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.434) Dunne .. {COM:sic} Hicks and Nelthorp . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.435) L. C. J. Which of them two was it that gave Barter five Shillings ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.436) Dunne . It was Nelthorp that gave him five Shillings . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.437) L. C. J. How do you know his Name was Nelthorp ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.438) Dunne . At my Lady Lisle's , after he was taken , I knew his Name to be Nelthorp . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.439) L. C. J. What Name did go by before ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.440) Dunne . Were I to die presently , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell it . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.441) L. C. J. Well , you went so much about : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.442) What time did you get to my Lady Lisle's upon the Tuesday ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.443) Dunne . About nine or ten of the Clock at Night , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.444) L. C. J. Let us consider a little ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.445) you say you went from your House about eleven o'Clock : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.446) What time did you get to Fovant ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.447) Dunne . About two or three of the Clock , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.448) L. C. J. Where did you stay by the way ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.449) Dunne . No where , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.450) L. C. J. Did you ride on still ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.451) --- Dunne . Yes , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.452) L. C. J. Was it before nine , or after nine that you came to my Lady Lisle's ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.453) --- Dunne . I believe it was rather after nine . My Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.454) L. C. J. Who came first to my Lady Lisle's , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.455) $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} tell us frankly ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.456) Dunne . My Lord , we came all three together to the Gate . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.457) L. C. J. Who knocked at the Gate , you or Barter , or who else ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.458) Dunne . Barter , my Lord was discharg'd before we came near the House , about eight Miles from it . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.459) L. C. J. Say'st thou so ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.460) How came you then to know the way without him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.461) Dunne . My Lord , $I $'ll {TEXT:I'll} tell you ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.462) they lost their way , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,111.463) and they sent me down to Marton , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.464) and there I went to a Man , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.465) and told him one Hicks desired to speak with him . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.466) L. C. J. Thou say'st well , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.467) now must I know that Man's Name . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.468) Dunne . The Man's Name that I went to at Marton , my Lord ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.469) L. C. J. Yes , and look to it , you tell me right , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.470) for it may be I know the Man already , and can tell at what end of the Town the Man lives too . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.471) Dunne . My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell his Name presently . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.472) L. C. J. O ! pray now , do not say so , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.473) you must tell us , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.474) indeed you must think of his Name at little . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.475) Dunne . My Lord , if I can mind it I will . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.476) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} do . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.477) Dunne . His Name , truly , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} rightly tell for the present . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.478) L. C. J. $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} recollect thyself ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.479) indeed thou canst tell us if thou wilt . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.480) Dunne . My Lord , I can go to the House again if I were at liberty . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.481) L. C. J. I believe it , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.482) and so could I ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.483) but really neither you nor I can be spared at present , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.484) therefore $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} do us the kindness now to tell us his {TEXT:him} Name . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.485) Dunne . Truly , my Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} mind his Name at present . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.486) L. C. J. Alack-a-day , we must needs have it ! (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.487) Come , refresh your Memory a little . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.488) Dunne . My Lord , I think his Name was Fane . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.489) L. C. J. Thou say'st right , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.490) his Name was Fane truly , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.491) thou seest I know something of the matter : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.492) Well , what didst thou say to him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.493) Dunne . I told him I came from one Mr. Hicks . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.494) L. C. J. And what didst thou desire of him ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.495) Dunne . I told him that one Mr. Hicks desired to speak with him ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.496) and when he came out to Mr. Hicks , Mr. Hicks did desire him to shew him the way to Mrs. Lisle's . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.497) L. C. J. Now tell us what kind of Man that was , that did desire this of Mr. Fane ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.498) Dunne . My Lord , it was the full fat black Man . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.499) L. C. J. Now we have got him out , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.500) now we know which was Hicks : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.501) Now go on . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.502) Dunne . My Lord , this Man went and rid along with them as far as the new House that is built there , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.503) within a Mile of that House Fane went along with us ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.504) and afterwards , whether Hicks or Nelthorp , or who knew the way , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.505) but to my Lady Lisle's we went . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.506) L. C. J. Who directed you the way when Fane left you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.507) Dunne . My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.508) for my part I did not know the way . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.509) L. C. J. Who went with you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.510) Dunne . None but Hicks and Nelthorp . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.511) L. C. J. How far from my Lady's House was that place where Fane left you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.512) --- Dunne . My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} directly tell . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.513) L. C. J. Then Hicks knew the way , it seems , from thence ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.514) Dunne . So he might , my Lord , for aught I know , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.515) for I did not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.516) L. C. J. Thou art strangely stiff ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.517) but now we are come thus far with you , tell me what Entertainment you had at my Lady Lisle's , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.518) and look to it that you be sure to tell me Truth , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.519) for I know it to a tittle , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.520) I can assure you that . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.521) Dunne . They went in before me , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.522) L. C. J. Who went in before you ? --- (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.523) Dunne . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.524) Hicks and Nelthorp . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.525) L. C. J. (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.526) But the Door was shut when you came , was it not ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.527) Dunne . My Lord , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} tell truly . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.528) L. C. J. Then tell me what Entertainment you had there ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.529) Dunne . For my own part , my Lord , I carry'd a bit of Cake and Cheese from my own House , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.530) and that I eat . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.531) L. C. J. What became of your Companions Hicks , and Nelthorp , I pray you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.532) Dunne . I never saw them again till after they were taken . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.533) L. C. J. How is that , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.534) $pray $thee {TEXT:prithee} recollect thyself ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.535) Dunne . Sure , my Lord , I did not see them till then . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.536) L. C. J. Who came to the Door to you ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.537) Dunne . A young Girl , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.538) I knew not who nor what she was . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.539) L. C. J. Did they go directly into the House ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.540) Dunne . It was dark , my Lord , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.541) I did not see what they did . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.542) L. C. J. Was there never a Candle there ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.543) --- Dunne . No , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.544) L. C. J. It was dark , very dark , was it not ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.545) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , it was so . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.546) L. C. J. Was my Lady stirring $then ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.547) --- Dunne . I did not see her . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.548) L. C. J. And this is as much as you know of the Business ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.549) Dunne . Yes , my Lord , this is all that I remember . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.550) L. C. J. Well ; and what hadst thou for all thy pains ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.551) Dunne . Nothing but a Month's Imprisonment , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.552) L. C. J. Thou seemest to be a Man of a great deal of Kindness and Good-nature ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.553) for , by this Story , there was a Man that thou never sawest before for I would fain have all People observe what Leather some Men's Consciences are made of (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.554) and because he only had a black Beard , and came to thy House , that black Beard of his should persuade thee to go 26 Miles , and give a Man half a Crown out of thy Pocket to shew thee thy way , and all to carry a Message from a Man thou never knewest in thy Life , to a Woman whom thou never sawest in thy Life neither ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.555) that thou should'st lie out by the way two Nights , and upon the Sunday get home , and there meet with this same black-bearded little Gentleman , and appoint these People to come to thy House upon the Tuesday ; and when they came , entertain them three or four Hours at thy own House , and go back again so many Miles with them , and have no Entertainment but a piece of Cake and Cheese that thou broughtest thyself from home , and have no Reward , nor so much as know any of the Persons thou didst all this for , is very strange . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.556) Dunne . My Lord , the Man that came to desire me to go on this Message , said that Hicks should reward me , and pay me for my pains . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.557) L. C. J. But why wouldst thou take the word of a Man thou didst not know ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.558) Dunne . I was forced to take his word at that time , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.559) L. C. J. There was no necessity for that neither ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.560) no body could force thee to do it . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.561) Alack-a-day ! Thou seemest to be a Man of some consideration : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.562) I mightily wonder thou should'st be so kind to People thou didst not know , without any prospect of Recompence whatsoever . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,112.563) Dunne . All the Reason that induced me to it was , they said they were Men in Debt , and desired to be concealed for a while . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.565) L. C. J. Dost thou believe that any one here believes thee ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.566) $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} what Trade art thou ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.567) Dunne . My Lord , I am a Baker by Trade . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.568) L. C. J. And wilt thou bake thy Bread at such easy Rates ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.569) Upon my Word then , thou art very kind : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.570) $Pray $thee {TEXT:Prithee} tell me , I believe thou dost use to bake on Sundays , dost thou not ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.571) --- Dunne . No , my Lord , I do not . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.572) L. C. J. Alack-a-day ! Thou art precise in that ; (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.573) but thou can'st travel on Sundays to lead Rogues into Lurking-holes : (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.574) It seemeth thou hast a particular Kindness for a black Beard , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.575) $that $'s {TEXT:that's} all thy Reason for undertaking all this Trouble . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.576) Thou hast told me all the Truth , hast thou ? (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.577) Dunne . I have , my Lord . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.578) L. C. J. But I assure thee , thy Bread is very light Weight , (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.579) it will scarce pass the Balance here . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.580) Dunne . I tell the Truth , and nothing but the Truth . (LISLE-E3-P1,4,113.581)