Spoud. You have directed me very rightly how to answer such Parents : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,24.2) now I shall be able to shew them where the fault is , & be calling upon them to redresse this at home . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,24.3) I shall also indevour to put all this in use , and more as you make the particulars more fully knowne unto me ; and as I shall finde by triall the fruit hereof . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.5) But now , that you have thus satisfied me in al these my doubts ; I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} but demand yet one other point , wherein I finde another great want , though not comparable to the former ; because there is not so much use of it : which is about the ordinarie numbers or numbring . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.6) For I am much troubled about this , that my readers and others above them , are much to seeke in all matters of numbers , whether in figures or in letters . Insomuch , as when they heare the Chapters named in the Church , many of them $can $not {TEXT:cannot} turne to them , much lesse to the verse . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.7) Phil. This likewise is a verie ordinarie defect , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.8) & yet might easily be helped by common meanes , in an houre or two . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.9) I call it ordinarie , because you shal have schollers , almost readie to go to the Universitie , who yet can hardly tell you the number of Pages , Sections , Chapters , or other divisions in their bookes , to finde what they should . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.10) And it is , as you say , a great & a foule want ; because , without the perfect knowledge of these numbers , schollers $can $not {TEXT:cannot} helpe themselves by the Indices , or Tables of such books , as they should use , for turning to anything of a sodaine : although it be a matter whereof they should have use all their life long . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.11) And to conclude , it is a great neglect , because it is a thing so easie , as that it may be learned in so short a time , only by most usuall meanes , as by these following . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.12) For numbers by letters , use but only to appose them , according to the direction in the Latine Grammar at Orthographia , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.13) and they wil do them presently . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.14) As if you aske what I. stands for , what V. what X. what L. &c . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.15) And back againe , what letter stands for one , so what for five , or for ten . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.16) But especially if you desire to have them very ready herein , cause them to have these written , & then to practise to read them over often , until that they can answer any of them perfectly . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.17) Warn them also to remember alwaies , that any number set after a greater or after the same number , doth adde so many mo , as the value of that later number is . As , I. set after X. thus , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,25.18) XI. doth make eleven , XV. fifteene . XX. twentie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.19) But being set before , they doe take away so many as they are : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.20) as I. before X. thus , IX. nine . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.21) If you wish an example more at large , this may serve ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.22) let each of them that should learne have a briefe of these , after this manner , to shew them all the chiefe numbers . {COM:numbers_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.23) And thus much shortly for numbring by letters . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.24) For the numbers by Figures , this rule must also bee observed ; That the Figures doe signifie in the first place so much onely , as if they were alone , or one time so many . In the second place tennes , or ten times so many . In the third place , hundreths , or a hundreth times so many . In the fourth place thousands , or a thousand times so many . In the fift place ten thousands . In the sixt place hundreth thousands ; the places being reckoned from the right hand to the left . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.25) As for example , {COM:numbers_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.26) These being learned backwards and forwards , so that your scholler be able to know each of them , to call them , or name them right , and to finde them out , as the child should finde any letter which he is to learne : in a word , to tell what any of these numbers stand for , or how to set downe any of them ; will performe fully so much as is needfull for your ordinarie Grammar scholler . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.27) If you do require more for any , you must seeke Records Arithmetique , or other like Authors , and set them to the Cyphering schoole . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,26.28) Spoud. This is a defect that I see is most easily supplied by a very little paine and care in examining . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.30) I have troubled you overlong in this , being in it selfe so very a trifle , though the want generally be to be blamed . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.31) Now therefore let us hasten unto our profession for the Grammar Schoolemaster . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.32) For I desire earnestly to be in our own element , as more befitting and beseeming our place . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.33) Phil. I am very willing to make all the haste that we can : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.34) for this I see , that though we neither use digressions , nor needlesse words ; yet this our conference will prove very long , before that I can make my mind plain unto you : Unlesse I should be so short , as either to be obscure , or to omit many things which I take to be very necessarie : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.35) But yet before we come to make entrance into the Latine , if we do keepe order , we are to goe thorow the way of writing , as being more generall , and which chiefly appertaineth also to our English tongue ; in respect of our more frequent use of it ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.36) I meane chiefely for the writing of our ordinarie hand called the Secretarie hand , which is almost wholly in use amongst us . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.37) CHAP. IIII . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,27.39) How the Master may direct his Schollers to write very faire , though himselfe be no good Pen-man . Spoud. To come therefore unto writing , and the manner of teaching it ; That which you affirme may be done herein , $can $not {TEXT:cannot} but be a very great benefit , and a notable grace to schooles , and also to all learning , if it can be so effected : That all Schollers in generall may be directed to write commendably , and a great part of them which are more apt to write very faire ; and that in the severall hands of the learned tongues , as they doe proceede in every one of them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.42) For many of the best Schollers have beene wont to write very ill ; insomuch , as it hath beene a received opinion , as you know , amongst very many , That a good Scholler can hardly be a good pen-man . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.43) Moreover you shall find very few good writers in Grammar schooles ; unlesse either they have been taught by Scriveners , or by themselves marvellous apt hereunto , and very rare , or where the Master doth apply himselfe chiefly to teach to write . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.44) The want of this , hath bin another part of my griefe : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.45) for besides the complaint and grudging of the parents ; I have also seen , after they have bin a great while with me , that they have not bin able to write so , as to be fit for any trade ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.46) but they must after be set to learne of the Scrivener : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.47) much lesse have they bin able to write a letter to their friends , or to perform any such businesse with their pen , in any commendable maner . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.48) You shall therfore do me no lesse a pleasure , then in the former , if you can direct me , how to help all these evils , and to attaine to that dexteritie , whereof you speake . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.49) Phil. I hope to satisfie you herein also . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.50) But first relate unto mee , what courses your selfe have taken , to teach your Schollers to write ; whereof you have found so little profit : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.51) and after I shall adde , as in the former , what I have learned , to the better effecting hereof . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.52) Spoud. Surely I have done this : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.53) I have daily set them copies , so well as I could , which hath bin no small toile unto me : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.54) or else I have caused some of my Schollers , or some others to doe it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.55) Also I have made them now and then to write some copies ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.56) and it may be , I have corrected them for writing so badly , or guided some of their hands , or shewed them how to amend their letters . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.57) This I take to be the most that is done in Schooles ordinarily ; unlesse any do procure Scriveners to teach in their townes : whereof we finde no small inconveniences . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.58) Phil. I take it to be as you say , that this is all which is done in most Schooles : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.59) and hence so many of us have experience of the like murmurings against us . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,28.60) Now I will let you see plainly , and as familiarly as I can , how to help this evill , and to attaine this so great a benefit . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.61) 1 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.62) The Scholler should be set to write , when he enters into his Accidence ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.63) so every day to spend an houre in writing , or very neere . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.64) 2 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.65) There must be speciall care , that every one who is to write , have all necessaries belonging thereunto ; as pen , inke , paper , rular , plummet , ruling-pen , pen-knife , &c . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.66) 3 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.67) The like care must be , that their inke be thin , blacke , cleere ; which will not runne abroad , nor blot : their paper good ; that is , such as is white , smooth , and which will beare inke , and also that it be made in a book . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.68) Their writing books would be kept faire , strait ruled , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.69) and each to have a blotting paper to keepe their bookes from soyling , or marring under their hands . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.70) 4 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.71) Cause every one of them to make his own pen ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.72) otherwise the making , and mending of pens , will be a very great hinderance , both to the Masters and to the Schollers . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.73) Besides that , when they are away from their Masters if they have not a good pen made before they will write naught ; because they know not how to make their pens themselves . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.74) The best manner of making the pen , is thus : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.75) 1 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.76) Choose the quill of the best and strongest of the wing , which is somewhat harder , and will cleave . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.77) 2 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.78) Make it cleane with the backe of the pen-knife . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.79) 3 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.80) Cleane it strait up the backe ; first with a cleft , made with your pen-knife : after with another quill put into it , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.81) rive it further by little and little , till you see the cleft to be very cleane : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.82) so you may make your pen of the best of the quil , and where you see the cleft to be the cleanest , and without teeth . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.83) If it doe not cleave without teeth , cleave it with your pen-knife in another place , still neerer the backe : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.84) for if it be not strait up the backe , it will very seldome run right . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.85) After , make the nebbe and cleft both about one length , somewhat above a barley corne breadth , and small ; so as it may let downe the inke , and write cleane . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,29.86) Cut the nebbe first slant downewards to make it thinne , and after strait over thwart . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.87) Make both sides of equall bignesse , unlesse you be cunning to cut that side , which lieth upon the long finger , thinner and shorter ; yet so little , as the difference can hardly be discerned . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.88) But both of equall length is accounted the surest . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.89) The speediest and surest way to learne to make the pen , is this . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.90) When your Scholler shall have a good pen fit for his hand , and well fashioned ; then to view and marke that well and to trie to make one in all things like unto it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.91) It were good for the learner to procure such a pen made , and to keepe it for a patterne to make others by , untill he be very perfect in it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.92) A childe may soone learne to make his pen ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.93) yet , few of age do know how to make their owne pens well ; although they have written long and very much : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.94) neither can any attaine to write faire without that skill . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.95) Next unto this , cause your scholler to hold his pen right , as neere unto the nebbe as he can , his thumbe and two fore-fingers , almost closed together , round about the neb , like unto a Cat's foote , as some of the Scriveners doe terme it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.96) Then let him learne to carry his pen as lightly as he can , to glide or swimme upon the paper . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.97) So hee shall write the cleanest , fairest , and fastest , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.98) and also his pen shall last the longer . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.99) In stead of setting of copies , and to save that endlesse toile , let every one have a little copie booke fastened to the top of his writing booke , with a strong thread of a span long , or thereabout ; that alwaies when he writeth , he may lay his copy booke close before him , and that the side of the copy may almost touch the line where he writeth , that his eye may be upon the copie , and upon his letter both together . And also , to the end that ever when he hath done writing , he may put his copie booke into his writing booke againe ; so that the copie may never be out of the way , nor the Scholler write without it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.100) The fittest volume for their writing booke is , to have them in quarto . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,30.101) Moreover , the copie bookes would be made thus : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.103) Not above two inches in breadth ; foure or six copies in a booke , halfe Secretary , halfe Roman . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.104) The copie books might be made thus most fitly , as I take it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.105) 1 (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.106) One line of small letters , of each letter one , except in those which have letters of divers kinds , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.107) and therein both kinds to be set downe : as {COM:letters_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.108) Under the line of small letters would be set a line of great letters , after the same manner ; and under them both a line or two of joyning hand , containing all the letters in them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.109) Examples of both sorts for the present , untill better can be found , may be these . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.110) I meane copies both-1 of Secretarie and Romane , containing all the letters in them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.111) For Secretarie thus : Exercise thyselfe much in God's book , with zealous and fervent prayers and requests . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.112) For Romane thus : AEquore cur gelido zephyrus fert xenia kymbis ? (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.113) Respect not the verse , but the use . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.114) Under all these , may be fitly set in very little roome those characters or letters , out of which all the rest of the letters may be framed : as in the small letters in Secretarie , {COM:letters_omitted} In the great letters , {COM:calligraphy_omitted} . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.115) So under the Roman copies after the same maner . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.116) In the end of the copie bookes , in a page or two , might be set downe all the hard syllables mentioned before . That by oft writing them over , they might be helped to spell , and to write true Orthographie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.117) And after those , the numbers mentioned , to be able to write or to tell any of them upon the book without it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.118) Then what scholler soever were not able to tell any of them , after a little poasing , were well worthy to be corrected . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.119) If such copie books were finely printed , being graven by some cunning workman , and those of the most perfect and plaine formes of letters , that could possibly be procured , in a strong and very white paper , one Booke or two of them would serve a scholler neere all his time that he should never need to change his hand . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,31.120) The often change and following of divers hands , doth as much hinder writing , as often change of Schoolemasters doth hinder learning . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.122) Therefore the best is to be chosen at the first , and ever to be stucke unto without alteration , if it may be . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.123) In the meane time , untill such copies can be had , some would be procured of the master , to be written by the best Scrivener who can be gotten , after the manner aforesaid , for each scholler to have one to fasten to his booke , and to use as before . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.124) Otherwise when for lacke hereof , the Master , or Usher , or some other Scholler is compelled every day , to write each scholler a new copie ; it is both an endlesse toyle , and also an extreme losse of time : beside the inconvenience mentioned , of change of hands , and that few Masters or Ushers are fit pen-men , to write such copies as were necessarie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.125) Lastly , because through want of such copies , schollers do write ordinarily without direction or pattern , in all their exercises , whereby they either grow to very bad hands , or doe profit in writing , little or not at all . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.126) This exercise of writing faire , would be practised by all the Schollers thorow the Schoole , at least once every day , for an houre's space or neere ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.127) and that about one of the clocke : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.128) for then commonly their hands are warmest and nimblest . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.129) Now those that write exercises , may take the opportunitie of that time , to write them so faire as they can . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.130) In all writing this generall rule would be observed streightly , to cause them to strive to make every letter , as like to the copie letter in all proportion , as the one hand is to the other . And that they never thinke a letter good , untill no difference can be found between it and the copie letter , that it $can $not {TEXT:cannot} be discerned whether is the better . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,32.131) Great care would be had withall , to make every writer to keepe even compasse in the height , greatnesse , and breadth of his letters ; that no one letter stand either too high or too low , be overlong , or overshort , nor any way too bigge , or too little , too wide , or too narrow . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.132) To the end , that they may write of even height ; cause them to rule their bookes with a ruling pen , and then that they make the body of each letter , to touch their rules on both sides , I meane both-1 at the tops and bottomes of the letters ; but not to goe one haire breadth higher or lower . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.133) Thus by practice the scholler will in time attaine to write very faire of himselfe without any ruling pen . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.134) That every one may rule their bookes thus , cause them to have each his ruling pen , made of a quill , somewhat like unto a pen ; but onely that it is to be made with a nocke in the neb or point of it , like the nocke of an arrow , the nebs of the nocke standing just of the breadth of their copie letters asunder , that they may rule their rules meet of the same compasse with their copies . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.135) The points of the nebs of the ruling pens , must not be made over-sharpe , nor pressed downe over-hard in ruling ; because they wil then race the paper , and make it that it will not beare inke . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.136) They are moreover to rule but a few lines at once because the lines being drawne but lightly , will soon goe out , and not be seene before that the learners come to write in them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.137) Also this care must be had in ruling , to carry the ruling pen so even and straight forward , that both the lines which are drawne by it , may be seene together ; or else to draw the lines so oft over with the same , untill that both the lines may be well seene . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.138) This would be observed carefully , untill that time that they can begin to write even and streight of themselves : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.139) for the even compasse doth especially grace a hand , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.140) and the faire shew of it will cause children to take a delight in writing faire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.141) Every scholler who writeth Latine , should have two of these ruling pens : one for Secretarie , and another for Romane ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.142) or else to have one made of iron or brasse , the one end for the one , the other end for the other . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,33.143) Moreover , the books of all the new beginners or enterers , whilst they write letters , would be ruled well with crosse lines , with the ruling pens on this manner : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.144) It is found to direct them very much . {COM:diagram_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.145) Thus their books shall be kept faire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.146) The compasse or the space within the crosse lines , serves to keepe and guide the body of each letter to make it of a just proportion . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.147) The straight lines direct and guide the childe to make every stroke straight forward , or up and downe , and also how to frame the head and taile of each letter . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.148) Thus much for the compasse of the letters ; chiefly in the tops and bottomes of the letters . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.149) Now that the letters may not be over bigge or over little , set too neere one another or far off , this may be one good direction ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.150) Cause your scholler to draw his lines , on which he will write his copies , of the very same length with the length of the line of his copy : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.151) and then if he writes just so much in his line as is in the copie , it is very like that he makes his letters of a good proportion , not too bigge nor too little , and the compasse even , not one over neere , or far off from another . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.152) But if he write more in a shorter space , then is in like space in the copy , he either makes his letters too little , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.153) or sets them too neere one another ; letters , or words , or both . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.154) And so on the other side , if he write lesse in a line , then is in his copy in the same space , and length , then he makes his letters too bigge , or too wide asunder . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,34.155) The letters would be joyned . in every word : yet so , as no one be set over neere another , but just as the copie , observing blacks and whites , as the Scrivener tearmeth them . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.156) And each word in a sentence , would be set about the breadth of an a , or an o , from one another . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.157) For writing straight without lines after that they have practised this a good while , to write with double lines , ruled with the ruling pen , and after with single lines this may helpe to guide them well ; to cause them to hold their elbow so close to their side and so steadily , as they can conveniently ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.158) for the elbow so stayd , will guide the hand as a rule , especially in writing fast . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.159) Afterwards , looking at the end of the line , as we use to try the straightnesse of an arrow , they shall see easily where it is crooked . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.160) Practice will bring facility . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.161) These also may be speciall furtherances for the first enterers : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.162) When the yong scholler $can $not {TEXT:cannot} frame his hand to fashion any letter ; besides the guiding of his hand , and also the shewing where to begin each letter , & how to draw it , some doe use to draw before them the proportion of their letters , with a piece of chalke upon a boord , or table , or with a piece of black lead upon a paper ; and then let the child try how he himselfe can draw the like upon it ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.163) and after this to let him to doe it with his pen , following the letter of his booke . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.164) Or thus ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.165) Let him take a dry pen , that $can $not {TEXT:cannot} blot his book , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.166) and therewith cause him to follow that letter in his copie , which he $can $not {TEXT:cannot} make , drawing upon the copy letter very lightly , & a little turning the side of the pen , where the letter is small ; but leaning harder upon it where it is full , & there also turning the broad part of the pen . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.167) Onely warne him to be careful , that he do not hurt the letter in the copy , by his hard leaning upon his pen , or by the overmuch sharpnesse of it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.168) Thus let him follow his copie letter , drawing his pen so oft upon it , untill he thinke his hand will goe like unto it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.169) Then direct him , to try with another pen with inke , whether he can make one like to that of his copie . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.170) If he $can $not {TEXT:cannot} , let him goe to it with his dry pen againe , untill that he can fashion one like unto it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,35.171) This also is a speciall observation : That the more leasurely the childe draweth at the beginning , as the Painter doth , and the more lightly , the sooner a great deale he shall learne to frame his hand to write faire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.172) This likewise some good Scriveners observe ; to suffer the child to learne to make but one kinde of letter at once , untill they can make that in some good sort , then another (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.173) as first a , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.174) then b . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.175) But especially to begin with those letters , out of which all the rest may be framed , to make them perfectly , as {COM:letters_omitted} . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.176) For so all the rest will be the easier . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.177) To helpe to write cleane , fast and faire together , call oft on your schollers to exercise their hands in making of f strokes , that is , dashes of f , and s thus f s ; and the stroake of the great C , and B , thus , {COM:calligraphy_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.178) Also some use to cause the learners , to practise their hands to run upon the paper , either with inke or without , until they be very nimble and cunning to glide upon the paper ; and namely , to make certain rude flourishes . {COM:flourishes_omitted} (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.179) Call on them in all exercises , to be carefull to observe the graces of letters : as the keeping of great letters , accents , points , as comma , colon , period , parenthesis , and whatsoever may serve for the adorning of writing ; and ever more to take a delight in writing faire : which delight is in each art the one halfe of the skill ; but to fly all long tailes of letters , and to make all their letters so plaine as they can : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.180) the plainer the better . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.181) Beware that you suffer no one to learne a bad hand , or to make any bad letter , so neere as you are able to prevent it . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,36.182) For it will be found much harder to teach such to forget their bad letters and hands , then to teach other which never learned , to write the good . So that if you teach such , a better hand , after that they have learned and been long inured to the worse ; although they seeme to have learned to write well , yet unlesse they be holden continually to practise their good hand each day a little , they will fall unto their bad hand againe : so great force hath any evill custome . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.183) This therefore must be our wisedome , to procure from the beginning the most excellent copies , for our schollers , whatsoever they cost ; and to keep them constantly to them : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.184) they will soone quite the cost both-1 to Master and Scholler . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.185) To the end that any Master may be the better able to teach thus ; let him either try to attaine this faculty of writing faire which much commends a Master (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.186) or at least , let him labour to be well acquainted with these directions , or the like : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.187) and also let him cause his Schollers to observe them constantly ; or so many of them as need shall require . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.188) And to this end , let him use to walke amongst his Schollers as they write all together ; & see that they do practise these things duely : but chiefly that every one have his copy book layed close before him ; and to marke well wherein any one of them misseth in any letter or stroke , that it is not like to the copie , there to point him to the copie , and to shew him where they differ , or to cause him to compare them himselfe : so to appoint them to be mending their faults , untill their letters be in all things like the copie letters . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.189) And what letters they make the worst , to make them so oft over , in some voide place of their booke , or some waste paper , untill those be as good as any of the rest , and like the copy , as was said . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.190) Amongst others , to looke specially to these three letters together , f. g. b. and to m. which being well made , do grace all the rest , and yet are commonly made the worst of all . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.191) Thus anyone of these Schollers , chiefly one of them who write the best , may helpe the Master to direct the rest . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,37.192) By these meanes the Schoole-master may bring many of his Schollers to be very good pen-men , and all generally to some competent sufficiencie , to the credit of the Schoole , the good contentment of the parents , and the great benefit of the Schollers , though he $can $not {TEXT:cannot} write well himselfe , if hee can but onely thus farre forth direct , as to cause his Schollers to follow these observations . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.193) Hereby the Schooles also may be freed from having any need of the Scriveners , which go about the country , at least , which go under the names of Scriveners , & take upon them to teach to write ; and doe ofttimes very much hurt in the places where they come . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.194) For they draw away the mindes of many of the Schollers from their bookes ; even of all such as $can $not {TEXT:cannot} endure to take paines , nor have any great love of learning , (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.195) and cause many of good hope to leave the schoole utterly . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.196) Besides that , very often , so soone as ever these Scriveners are gone , the schollers whom they have taught , do forget what they seemed to have gotten by them , unlesse they be kept to practise their writing daily . So that all that cost and time is commonly lost ; besides the former inconveniences , that sundry by them lose all the learning which they had gotten . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.197) Also most of the yonger sort , who seem to write faire , and so leave the Schoole in a conceit of that which they have gotten by the Scrivener ; yet doe write so false Orthography , as is loathsome to see , and ridiculous to reade . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.198) For these properties should be joyned together in every pen-man , who would have any approbation ; to bee able as well to write a good stile I meane to indite , and to expresse his mind in some good forme of words , and true Orthography as to write faire . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.199) As for the use of Scriveners in the common schooles , it would be this if any ; either to make every scholler his book of copies , to use after the manner prescribed , untill such printed ones can be had : or else to set all the schollers in a good way of writing , for right framing their letters , and the like . To do it only at such times as the Master shall appoint ; that it may be without any great hinderance to the schollers for their learning , and warily preventing all the former inconveniences . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.200) For schooles and good learning being such a singular benefit , and so great a gift of God to Church and Commonwealth , all hinderances would be wisely foreseene , and heedily prevented . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,38.201) These are the special helps which hitherto I have learned , for the direction of schollers in writing : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.203) and by these I am assured upon triall , that what is promised in this behalfe , may be effected through God's blessing . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.204) Spoud. Sir , these must needs be very profitable : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.205) yet my memory being weake , and they many , I shall hardly thinke of them , to put them in practice . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.206) I pray you therefore repeat unto me againe in a word or two , which of them you take to be the principall , and of most continuall use . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.207) Phil. These I take to be the principall , & almost the summe of all ; and which would ever be had in memory : that the schollers have good pens , thin ink , faire & good copy books , and those made fast to their bookes , to have them ever laid close before them whe~ they are to write faire ; which would be once every day ; and then all of them together . That they have their bookes ruled strait and lightly , and that with ruling pens amongst all the yonger sort : and that therein a care be had , that they ever touch both the lines of the ruling pen with the bodies of their letters . Also that they have their faults shewed them , by pointing them to the copy letters ; and where their letters are unlike to the copy , there to cause them to be amending them continually , until they attaine to write as faire as it . To call on them ever to have an eye to the copy , & to have the fashions of the letters in their minds . To take a delight in writing ; striving who shall doe the best : to this end , to let their hands glide lightly on the paper ; to strive to write very cleane ; to make minimes , and such like letters sharpe at tops and bottomes , or just to the proportion of their copies : to hold their pens very low : their elbow something neere their side : to keepe their copies and bookes faire , unblotted and unscrauled : to have void places , or waste papers for assaies , &c . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.208) Most shortly , these three are almost all in all ; good copies , continuall eying them well , a delight in writing : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,39.209) although I thinke it very necessary , that you be acquainted with all the former directions as they are set downe at large , to use them as need shall require . You may soone attain the knowledge of them , when you have them written down : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.210) the labour of learning them will be nothing to you in regard of the benefit ; and much lesse in regard of the long search and observation , which I have used to finde them out . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.211) Spoud. It is true indeed ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.212) and I am the more beholden unto you : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.213) but give me leave this one word ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.214) that which you said even now , may seeme to make very much against the Scriveners . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.215) Phil. Not at all ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.216) it only helpeth to redresse the great abuse by some shifters , who goe under the name of Scriveners ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.217) for all good Scriveners have their callings and imployments , wherein to serve to the profit and good of the Commonwealth , and not unto the hurt thereof . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.218) This onely may teach us to prevent and avoid those intolerable abuses , and hurts to schooles mentioned ; whereof there hath been , and is daily , so much experience . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.219) Spoud. Sir , I $can $not {TEXT:cannot} but like of your answer ; (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.220) I my selfe have had some experience of the truth of the complaint : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.221) it is very necessarie that such evils should be prevented . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.222) Now therefore that you have thus shewed me how to make my schollers good pen-men , and that they may grow therein , as in their schoole learning ; and thus prepared the way to our Grammar schoole : let us at length come to that which hath been the speciall end of my journey , and wherein our chiefe travel & imployment lyeth . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.223) And first let us begin with the rudiments of the Grammar , I meane the Accedence ; wherein our first entrance is . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.224) Phil. Very willingly : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.225) but first let me acquaint you with certaine generall observations , which concerne our whole course of teaching , and whereof we shall have almost continuall use ; lest we be troubled with repeating them often after . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.226) Spoud. It is well advised , that we may doe all things the most shortly , and in the best and easiest order that we can : (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.227) I pray you therefore shew unto me what those generall observations be . (BRINSLEY-E2-P2,40.228)